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| Yayoi = hot Yuki = finally making her dream come true Rina = WHERE ARE YOU!?!?!? Misaki (or however you spell it) = need a man badly |
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| Good episode. I like the pacing of this show. Good to have a somewhat different type of harem show for a change. But I really despise how that guy piles up lie after lie from episode to episode. Why does he do that? I mean he did nothing wrong (so far), though he still shouldn't hang out with that manager anymore. I think he should talk about everything to Rina. She also has her eyes on him, but I have no doubts that she would help him with that manager. |
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| with half the show done, some more conflict should be rising up. im still not sure whether this will be a happy or sad ending. |
| Yayoi's reward scene just made me lol, because of her voice. But yeah, I'm not sure why Fujii continues on with his lies, and I'm not really diggin Misaki. Hopefully her arc ends soon. |
Faust721Feb 10, 2009 11:33 AM
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| this anime the protagonist is really starting to get on my nerves. Slightly different version of the School Days protagonist, I'd even say. But I'm sure this won't have such a nice ending, so I it's not unlike that I'll drop this after this or the next episode. |
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| I agree, the protagonist is such a liar -__- |
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| Yuki's song didn't impress me at all, neither her singing manner did. I still consider her unfitting for showbiz. Not much interesting this episode. |
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| Very strange episode but I still like the general atmosphere and pacing. I thought that the realation between Rina and the hero would progress quicker though, and his relation with Yuki would start to become impossible to manage quicker too. |
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| Rina's song (Mizuki Nana)>>>>>>>>Yuki's song (Hirano Aya) Why Aya is that popular with her average seiyuu skills? On other side, average episode, Misaki is really stupid. |
Hmmm... this episode was okay. It confused me a little bit though. Yay, AKG K240 headphones! :D Wearing headphones, she reminded me a bit of Aka from REC. |
De-JaY said: I thought so too, but in the screenshot it's actually even more obvious. Confusing episode. No Haruka. ):Wearing headphones, she reminded me a bit of Aka from REC. |
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Mathes said: this anime the protagonist is really starting to get on my nerves. Slightly different version of the School Days protagonist, I'd even say. But I'm sure this won't have such a nice ending, so I it's not unlike that I'll drop this after this or the next episode. What makes him sad?... I'd say he want's to help and in without reasons finds a bunch of girls with a mysterious (harem) crush on him. No, he's different from School days, - not hate but pity for him. -no black goals or so ... -said he was still with Yuki ... (KIND OF LAME AND WEAK RELATIONSHIP :( ) -no manipulation Be a good boy and: -What he needs now is to say NO NO NO in a good way when the times come ... ***What's getting on my nerves is the fact they all focus on a single guy, for G... Sake what does he has !!!!**** P.s I know it's an harem ... don't look down too much to me! |
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| umm when has he lied before this episode? I don't remember him telling any lies before only leaving some things out when he talks to Yuki. In any case you can't put all the blame on this guy. He knows what he wants but he's being boxed in by all these different factors. If the manager lady just let him visit Yuki things would be fine and dandy. Rina's brother also seems to be jealous of the protagonist and takes his jealousy out on Yuki or maybe he's just really dedicated to his work. If you look at the expression on his face when Yuki's breathing hard and sweating he clearly wants to push her beyond her braking point. Also looks like Misaki was sexually abused or possibly even raped in the past. There was a quick flash back when Touya touches her. The flash back looked like a professor...but then again it could be the kid in charge of her club too. PS. no changes in the relationship chart this week. |
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| This was a weird episode. So many wtfs buzzing in my head. Why was the background in Touya's apartment (with Haruka) flipping between looking like a 6 year olds painting and regular quality? That was very distracting. At the same time the animation was doing the same jery, semi-fluid stuff that happened when they introduced Tsundere. Why did Touya get in the car with ManagerWoman. I don't care what anyone says, he must at least sub-consciously want this relationship to fail. Why did Touya miss so much school last year? Was it his mom? And what's his relationship with his dad, because he didn't look like the shut-in drunk I thought he was. What's up with the on-screen script? Is this Touya's thoughts, or merely written narration? Why is Yuki breathing hard? Does she have a breathing condition? Singing in a static position doesn't cause that much breathlessness. |
crazy_eights said: Well you should have realized something since the first episode when you heard Suara sing the ED song.with half the show done, some more conflict should be rising up. im still not sure whether this will be a happy or sad ending. Mathes said: Did Touya tried to rape any girl in the show which make you feel that way? If it was Makoto from School Days, he would have raped Yuki at that night, he would have took the great deal chance with Yayoi, he would have used Haruka and Misaki as his toys. So how did those 2 are slightly different version?this anime the protagonist is really starting to get on my nerves. Slightly different version of the School Days protagonist, I'd even say. DeathfireD said: Well, he did lied before on the phone with Misaki about the book by using Akria name instead of Rina.umm when has he lied before this episode? I don't remember him telling any lies before only leaving some things out when he talks to Yuki. noteDhero said: This make me LOL and T_T at the same time.This was a weird episode. So many wtfs buzzing in my head. Why was the background in Touya's apartment (with Haruka) flipping between looking like a 6 year olds painting and regular quality? That was very distracting. At the same time the animation was doing the same jery, semi-fluid stuff that happened when they introduced Tsundere. Why did Touya get in the car with ManagerWoman. I don't care what anyone says, he must at least sub-consciously want this relationship to fail. Why did Touya miss so much school last year? Was it his mom? And what's his relationship with his dad, because he didn't look like the shut-in drunk I thought he was. What's up with the on-screen script? Is this Touya's thoughts, or merely written narration? Why is Yuki breathing hard? Does she have a breathing condition? Singing in a static position doesn't cause that much breathlessness. |
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| I found the last two episodes rather.. uhm... streamlined.. they no longer make you guess what's going on... it's like.. this is weird, and that is weird, and everything's weird.. well, all characters are thus weird.. and such is their behaviour.. and as a result, all the complexity shown in the first four episodes breaks into a non-predictive, weird but still boring and kinda straight-forward mess. I don't feel any development anymore.. and this is somewhat sad. But I still enjoy the general atmosphere so I'll defeinitely stay with you guys until the very end ^^ noteDhero said: What's up with the on-screen script? Is this Touya's thoughts, or merely written narration? to my mind those are the thoughts of the current active speaker and in fact, they are mostly Touya's. But, for instance, in the end those were the thoughts of that littlle black-haired goddess schoolgirl noteDhero said: Why is Yuki breathing hard? Does she have a breathing condition? Singing in a static position doesn't cause that much breathlessness. Actually it does. Breathing exercises take from the singers (especially beginners) most of their time since they must exhale properly to sing all of the notes. Furthermore, the vocal room is small, closed, and is normally not air-conditioned to prevent the unwanted noise in the recording. So after, say 20-30 minutes of intensive singing, it's hot inside and you can feel the lack of oxygen. noteDhero said: Why did Touya get in the car with ManagerWoman. I don't care what anyone says, he must at least sub-consciously want this relationship to fail. He's a weirdo so why wouldn't he? ^^ De-JaY said: Yay, AKG K240 headphones! :D and I bet those were Yamaha NS-10 as the near-field studio monitors.. |
| I didn't think it was that bad, though I don't really care as much for Misaki so I found myself wandering off to chain-play Spider Solitaire during the vid. Hopefully there's more drama since there's only a few episodes left, but I'm really hoping Rina (and Haruka!) get more screentime. |
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soulelle said: Actually it does. Breathing exercises take from the singers (especially beginners) most of their time since they must exhale properly to sing all of the notes. Furthermore, the vocal room is small, closed, and is normally not air-conditioned to prevent the unwanted noise in the recording. So after, say 20-30 minutes of intensive singing, it's hot inside and you can feel the lack of oxygen. The problem is that they were recording, and the song is not difficult for any female singer, especially one with good enough breath control to produce the steady vibrato I heard during the insert song. Yuki may be a beginner, but she can sing well enough that that lame song doesn't wind her. |
| I don't view his lying to be that bad though. People do lie to make sure other people's feelings don't get hurt and that seemed like what was going on in the series since every girl is completely obsessed with him. Episode-wise, bodies better start dropping because I really don't see the series living long enough to have a complete happy ending and I kind of want Touya to go with Misaki now. I'm kind of falling for the damsel in distress routine and Yuki just seems too dense. and Mizkuki > Hirano hands down. Yuki's singing wasn't that great. |
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noteDhero said: soulelle said: Actually it does. Breathing exercises take from the singers (especially beginners) most of their time since they must exhale properly to sing all of the notes. Furthermore, the vocal room is small, closed, and is normally not air-conditioned to prevent the unwanted noise in the recording. So after, say 20-30 minutes of intensive singing, it's hot inside and you can feel the lack of oxygen. The problem is that they were recording, and the song is not difficult for any female singer, especially one with good enough breath control to produce the steady vibrato I heard during the insert song. Yuki may be a beginner, but she can sing well enough that that lame song doesn't wind her. She sang it more then a few times. The owner kept having her redo specific part over and over again, that's why the recording guy asked if he could just cut and patch it. The owner says no and the recording guy decides to go get some coffee as a way to give Yuki a brake without her needing to beg for one. If you notice, when Rin walks in Yuki also thinks "Goddess" because she knows when Rina's around her brother's less strict. At least this is what I've gathered so far. I could be wrong and she could just suck at singing. |
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| I can sing all day and not be winded like that. She must have some type of respiratory problem (or the show is being melodramatic). I don't think she sucks. She's mediocre at worst. It was a natural free sound, that's why I say either over-exaggeration or breathing problems. |
noteDhero said: I can sing all day and not be winded like that. She must have some type of respiratory problem (or the show is being melodramatic). I don't think she sucks. She's mediocre at worst. It was a natural free sound, that's why I say either over-exaggeration or breathing problems. well I agree it's hardly possible in real life for a normal singer to breathe that hard while recording in a studio. So this can be treated as the director's mistake if he supposed to be close to real life as much as possible. However, I'm sure this is just a director's trick to show us how hard and long Yuki had been working. No way I believe Yuki has any kind of respiratory deseases - it's easier to think of her hentai relations with Eiji as a cause for that rosy-cheeked face and out-of-control hard breathing, which is of course is of extremely low probability.. so I'm stay convinced Yuki is basically tired, both physically and emotionally. |
| pretty good ,pretty good episode |
| QUALITY also, I'm sick of how the main char underestimates misaki. |
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nihil said: also, I'm sick of how the main char underestimates misaki. uhmm.. what do you mean.. I totally don't get it (T_T).. why doesn't he underestimate Misaki?? |
| I think nihil means Touya's ambivalence/unawares of Misaki's feelings. |
| This anime's getting on my nerves =___= plot's getting really bad since last episode, that everything went downhill imo. But let's wait and see. |
noteDhero said: I can sing all day and not be winded like that. She must have some type of respiratory problem (or the show is being melodramatic). I don't think she sucks. She's mediocre at worst. It was a natural free sound, that's why I say either over-exaggeration or breathing problems. But you sing how you want to sing, she's a professional singer and has to follow whatever image the director has envisioned for the song to sound like. It's actually hard to sing the same thing over and over again in a way you're not used to. My friend recently started doing stage plays and takes voice lessons on a regular basis now. He says it's very strenuous on his vocal cords. He's normally winded by the end of a two hour lesson. |
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| Whatever vision the director has envisioned shouldn't get in the way of healthy singing. As a "professional" if you are singing healthily, no amount of repetition should cause you to breathe that hard. It's very strenuous on your friends vocal chords because he isn't singing with proper technique. I say this as a music major who studied voice. When I first started I was winded because I wasn't breathing properly. Once I was singing correctly, those problems went away, and rather than being tired and winded, I was refreshed and energetic. That's why I'm confused, becasuse I hear proper singing in the track, and then we cut to Yuki breathing hard. I've concluded that it's just there for melodrama rather than being a sign of some disease. |
| This episode was kinda boring, most boring yet. Interesting backstory and hints at even more backstory for Misaki, but I don't really like her as a character since she seems incapable of standing up for herself. And why must Toya constantly lie to people? It seems like he means well, aiming to avoid hurting their feelings by them thinking things are going on that aren't. But I think it will come back to haunt him, as he's going to get caught in a lie at some point and because he lied whichever character that catches him is going to think the worst. As to the people who wondered why the hell he'd get back in the car with Yuki's manager, it's because she didn't really leave him a choice. He tried to object but she's a more aggressive personality than him. He's really to nice for his own good. |
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| This episode was boring. Even the dramatic scenes weren't very dramatic. D: |
| Usotsuki. |
| I have this weird feeling that the male protagonist of this show is digging his own grave. I can't blame him if he is surrounded by the so called "goddesses" of this harem show. Nevertheless, I want to see how this show will turned out until the end. |
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| Good episode. I liked the pacing so far, and I hope that next episode keeps me interested to watch more. |
| Megami Ogata Rina isn't doing much in this episode.. |
And that Romi Paku is the seiyuu makes it even harder to believe. *shocked* |
| I liked Misaki even less this episode u.u She's still in the club because they wouldn't let her quit?! That's about the lamest excuse I've ever heard. And if that Tamaru assaulted her or something, then that's even more reason for her to leave the group. (None of this crap about "I want everyone to see my plays;" there are other, better outlets for that.) I'm also feeling pretty disgusted with Touya for lying to Yuki again. It'd be bad for him to tell her that Misaki was sleeping over, but I don't see why he couldn't say he was helping Misaki with her play rather than making up dumb excuses. (At least give the girl some warning that you're spending so much time with other women -- she should be worrying!) The boy's problem is not that he's a jerk; it's more like, he's way too "nice," and he doesn't seem to realize how that could compromise his other relationships (like with Yuki and Akira). On the one hand, it's Misaki's fault for relying on him so much (doesn't she have any other friends?); on the other, it's his fault for letting her. ... Aaanyway. I still love the ending sequence (both that we've seen) as well as the previews and the random watercolor shots during the episode. |
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| Ahh, what is Touya trying to do? Distance himself from Yuki or stay with her? |
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| It took me more than a week to force myself to watch this and it wasn't one of my best decisions. I mean if I want to butcher the whole cast with a random blunt object that means that something ain't right. Probably with me. I have to learn to drop bad shows. |
| It's not really that bad. I know that the overall execution itself is bad enough for you to drop the series. However, I still find it watchable due to the fact that I want to know how the story will end especially to the male protagonist of the show. I want to see him dead. |
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| Touya is really getting on my nerves with all of his pointless lies. I think the fact that he's not willing to tell the truth about something as innocnet as that it just means he has bad intentions. And Yuki's manager just sitting outside of her apartment is just too bodyguardish. Yuki's a grown woman. That damn manager just doesn't want her to have a life other than her singing career. |
| dont know what touya is trying to do. nothing particular stickd in my mind. lets see how this will progress. |
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| What the fuck is Touya doing eh? Really, so far I just can't understand him, and once more, why did he even accepted Shinozuka's ride? |
| Cant avoid her forever!! |
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| Haha I'm liking the Echos manager character. All he does is pretend to listen to music while eavesdropping on Touya. The montage in the episode was okay. |
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