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PerfectScore said: We can pretend that Kiritsugu's wish he tried to make at the end of Fate/Zero resulted in this rather than branching off to Fate/stay Night. Something like after he enters the realm of the Holy Grail, he sees a world of Madoka Magica, considering that a world of magical girls is the only solution Kiritsugu knows for peace, he is granted the wish, and thus Fate/kaleid is born. Nope. It never even got to wishing. it diverges way earlier. |
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Fai said: Way earlier as in years before the start of the 4th war.PerfectScore said: We can pretend that Kiritsugu's wish he tried to make at the end of Fate/Zero resulted in this rather than branching off to Fate/stay Night. Something like after he enters the realm of the Holy Grail, he sees a world of Madoka Magica, considering that a world of magical girls is the only solution Kiritsugu knows for peace, he is granted the wish, and thus Fate/kaleid is born. Nope. It never even got to wishing. it diverges way earlier. |
PerfectScore said: They say why it happened but not how.It still is one of the goals of the story.I haven't read the manga or anything, but do they actually explain how the verse came to be? |
AllTJAck said: ssjokg said: Fai said: Way earlier as in years before the start of the 4th war.PerfectScore said: We can pretend that Kiritsugu's wish he tried to make at the end of Fate/Zero resulted in this rather than branching off to Fate/stay Night. Something like after he enters the realm of the Holy Grail, he sees a world of Madoka Magica, considering that a world of magical girls is the only solution Kiritsugu knows for peace, he is granted the wish, and thus Fate/kaleid is born. Nope. It never even got to wishing. it diverges way earlier. I wonder then what would have happened to all the other Grail War participant. Kariya not being a mess, Tohsaka is not dead, Ryunosuke was probably caught at some point, Kayneth is "maybe" happily married and Waver somehow still got Rider-fied and became a high ranking teacher? and not to mention, Kirei is still somewhere, not yet the bastard we all know him as. Tohsaka most likely IS dead, since Rin is living alone and still formed her obsessive-competitive personality that resulted from living alone. Some of Zero masters will be revisited, some sooner, others latter. :) |
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AllTJAck said: ssjokg said: Fai said: Way earlier as in years before the start of the 4th war.PerfectScore said: We can pretend that Kiritsugu's wish he tried to make at the end of Fate/Zero resulted in this rather than branching off to Fate/stay Night. Something like after he enters the realm of the Holy Grail, he sees a world of Madoka Magica, considering that a world of magical girls is the only solution Kiritsugu knows for peace, he is granted the wish, and thus Fate/kaleid is born. Nope. It never even got to wishing. it diverges way earlier. I wonder then what would have happened to all the other Grail War participant. Kariya not being a mess, Tohsaka is not dead, Ryunosuke was probably caught at some point, Kayneth is "maybe" happily married and Waver somehow still got Rider-fied and became a high ranking teacher? and not to mention, Kirei is still somewhere, not yet the bastard we all know him as. Tohsaka is dead.Kariya surely tried to rescue Sakura so he is dead.Ryuunosuke unknown but who cares anyway,Kayneth is dead since Waver aka Lord El Melloi II is his successor AND inherited Kayneth's Mystic Code(this implies that Waver always had the capability to become strong,Rider's influence only speed that up,made obvious to us and Waver).Kirei DEFINITELY isnt in this Fuyuki since |
AllTJAck said: ssjokg said: AllTJAck said: ssjokg said: Fai said: Way earlier as in years before the start of the 4th war.PerfectScore said: We can pretend that Kiritsugu's wish he tried to make at the end of Fate/Zero resulted in this rather than branching off to Fate/stay Night. Something like after he enters the realm of the Holy Grail, he sees a world of Madoka Magica, considering that a world of magical girls is the only solution Kiritsugu knows for peace, he is granted the wish, and thus Fate/kaleid is born. Nope. It never even got to wishing. it diverges way earlier. I wonder then what would have happened to all the other Grail War participant. Kariya not being a mess, Tohsaka is not dead, Ryunosuke was probably caught at some point, Kayneth is "maybe" happily married and Waver somehow still got Rider-fied and became a high ranking teacher? and not to mention, Kirei is still somewhere, not yet the bastard we all know him as. Tohsaka is dead.Kariya surely tried to rescue Sakura so he is dead.Ryuunosuke unknown but who cares anyway,Kayneth is dead since Waver aka Lord El Melloi II is his successor AND inherited Kayneth's Mystic Code(this implies that Waver always had the capability to become strong,Rider's influence only speed that up,made obvious to us and Waver).Kirei DEFINITELY isnt in this Fuyuki since I will agree on Kariya since he was a mess before the fighting starts. But if the Kaleid timeline diverged from Fate0 before the 4th Holy Grail War starts, then the fate of Tohsaka and Kayneth cannot be so sure since they died in the war, esspecially for Tohsaka since he would be killed by Kirei who is not in Fuyuki city and who may not be Gilgamesh-fied. Rin lives in Luvia's house as a Waver cant become Lord El Melloi II and inherit Kayneth's Mystic Code if Kayneth is alive.This isnt the only alternate reality where he took this position even without the 4th War. |
AllTJAck said: ssjokg said: AllTJAck said: ssjokg said: Fai said: Way earlier as in years before the start of the 4th war.PerfectScore said: We can pretend that Kiritsugu's wish he tried to make at the end of Fate/Zero resulted in this rather than branching off to Fate/stay Night. Something like after he enters the realm of the Holy Grail, he sees a world of Madoka Magica, considering that a world of magical girls is the only solution Kiritsugu knows for peace, he is granted the wish, and thus Fate/kaleid is born. Nope. It never even got to wishing. it diverges way earlier. I wonder then what would have happened to all the other Grail War participant. Kariya not being a mess, Tohsaka is not dead, Ryunosuke was probably caught at some point, Kayneth is "maybe" happily married and Waver somehow still got Rider-fied and became a high ranking teacher? and not to mention, Kirei is still somewhere, not yet the bastard we all know him as. Tohsaka is dead.Kariya surely tried to rescue Sakura so he is dead.Ryuunosuke unknown but who cares anyway,Kayneth is dead since Waver aka Lord El Melloi II is his successor AND inherited Kayneth's Mystic Code(this implies that Waver always had the capability to become strong,Rider's influence only speed that up,made obvious to us and Waver).Kirei DEFINITELY isnt in this Fuyuki since I will agree on Kariya since he was a mess before the fighting starts. But if the Kaleid timeline diverged from Fate0 before the 4th Holy Grail War starts, then the fate of Tohsaka and Kayneth cannot be so sure since they died in the war, esspecially for Tohsaka since he would be killed by Kirei who is not in Fuyuki city and who may not be Gilgamesh-fied. Rin's personality is the indication of it. Tohsaka still died, one way or the other. He still met his end, resulting in Rin being obsessed with magus perfection and overly-judging towards others, just like in FSN Whatever happened to Kariya and Tohsaka and Rin's Mother, it resulted in Rin's personality currently as well as Kayneth HAS to be dead otherwise Waver would not hold that title. Let's not forget |
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Fai said: Really bored to look through all the volumes of the manga but wasnt the world of F/KPI set in an alternate reality where the HGW system wasnt even created?Let's not forget FZ timeline: Kerry and Iri take Ilya before the start of the war F/KPI timeline: The world where Kerry,Iri and the maids ended up after they did that something where Ilya isnt an adult,Shirou still ends up as an orphan,Sakura is adopted but Rin seemingly doesnt even know about it etc etc.... |
ssjokg said: Fai said: Really bored to look through all the volumes of the manga but wasnt the world of F/KPI set in an alternate reality where the HGW system wasnt even created?Let's not forget FZ timeline: Kerry and Iri take Ilya before the start of the war F/KPI timeline: The world where Kerry,Iri and the maids ended up after they did that something where Ilya isnt an adult,Shirou still ends up as an orphan,Sakura is adopted but Rin seemingly doesnt even know about it etc etc.... Don't remember anything about that in the exact way. But whatever they did still started the chain of events that |
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