Nozoki Ana Chapter 96 Discussion

Nasost said:
I hated this chapter, because of the way the break up was handled. I was so very angry and disappointed in the way Kido treated Madoka that I almost didn't want to continue reading the story with such a character and had to tell myself that the scene was just badly written.
I also felt the need to write a bit of a rant on the subject.
The way he treated her was just simply, terribly hateful. I know, he didn't actually hate her, and his dread of going to her and his tears afterward showed that. However, without him meaning to, his actions were hateful. If you saw someone go into someone else's home and rip their heart out and leave it bleeding on the floor, what conclusion would you come to but that that person hated the other. He left her confused, begging and crying hysterically, full of self-blame and bearing a wound that would probably take a long time to heal.
The part that bothered me the most was the panel that had him thinking something like, 'I wanted to hug her trembling shoulders but I resisted. I wanted to tell her how wonderful she was. . . but I no longer had the right to . . . that would have just been kindness to set myself at peace.' The really sad thing, the thing that bothered me so much more, is that I think this kind of thinking must actually sometimes happen in the real world, and it is all caused by a misunderstanding about what 'love' is. Kido, or perhaps the writer, was confusing feeling love toward someone (caring about them, wanting the best for them, wanting them to be happy) with being in love with someone (romantic feelings, thinking that they are the One you want to be with). These are actually two different things, and can exist separately. Since that was not understood, he tragically assumed that since he was no longer in love with her, he must therefore no longer love her, and therefore no longer treat her with love. This stupid semantic misunderstanding even overruled his correct urge to comfort her, and instead he acted coldly toward her, making things much much more painful than they needed to be.
'No longer had the right' to comfort and reassure her? I say he had the OBLIGATION to, as her friend that he mistakenly thought he was no longer supposed to be, as as another feeling human being.
'That would have just been kindness to set myself at peace'? Yes, but that's how we're made. It's called Empathy, and it's part of love. He was feeling her pain in his heart, and he properly had the urge to ease it. Acting to ease the pain he was feeling, doing that 'kindness', would have also acted to ease her pain, which, again, he was under obligation to do as well as he could.
I could tell well in advance, as most of us probably could, that this break up was going to come eventually. I really hoped that it would be done well, in some way that would not leave Madoka hurt. I see her as nothing but a sweet, kind, innocent girl who loves strongly (her boyfriend as well as her friends) and never did anything bad to anyone. (I disregard her behavior toward Emiru at the end because it was the result of Emiru expertly and meticulously pushing all of her buttons, including making her act protectively of Kido.) After the Letter, when it was definite that the breakup was coming soon, I thought a lot about what the best way would be to do it with minimal damage to Madoka (yes I really get into these emotional stories).
The first thing he should have done was have her put some sort of clothing on. This would help her feel more secure, less exposed, and also less cold! Also, sitting facing her and maybe holding her hands would have been more reassuring as well.
The next most important thing would be to set matters straight regarding Emiru, and clear her name. This would achieve several things. It would help Madoka see that the person she had regarded so highly before was, in fact, the person she had thought she was. Madoka doesn't seem to really have many friends and it would be nice if she could feel like she had a friend in her instead of an enemy. It would also help her understand that Kido wasn't leaving her for some terrible betraying monster who oppressed him, but for a wonderful (if strange) girl who loved Kido so much that she was willing to take all that pain onto herself for his sake. I think that feeling that the person he was choosing over her was someone whom she regarded highly would take a little of the sting out of it. Also, after Madoka's initial pain faded away, it would be encouraging for her to know that the guy she loved was with someone who would love him and protect him so fiercely. Finally, Emiru deserved to not be hated by someone she had considered a friend.
Next, he needed to reassure her of may things. That it was not her fault. That she did nothing wrong, but that he had just finally realized that he was in love with a girl whom he had met a year before her: the timing was just bad. That she, Madoka, was a wonderful person who deserved to be loved, and that he hoped she would one day find someone that would be deserving of her. That he was grateful for all the love she showed him and would never forget it.
Finally, I think a large source of her pain would be that he was just completely abandoning her, leaving a huge gaping hole in her heart. This was unnecessary. Though it may be a little awkward at times, I don't think there is any reason that he couldn't remain her friend. Instead of leaving a big hole, he could just change his position in her heart a bit. He could reassure her that he would still be there for her, to talk to or to encourage her when she needed it. He could say that he would even watch over her, and make sure that the guy she chose, when she was ready, would be someone who would treat her right.
Anyway, I feel better about the story by imagining that when he came out of her apartment building, someone would slap him around a bit, call him an idiot, explain these things to him, and send him back up to fix it. The writer just left that part out.
Sorry for the length of this rant, but that part of the story just really got me thinking. If you are still reading this at this point, I thank you.
What do you think of all of this?

sirbootypopper said:
Madoka deserved better but oi, Seiji is a cunt. Lets hope his attempts fail. Smug cunts annoy me the most.

Tengai said:
It was good to see Kido breaking up with Madoka, but it hurts to see Madoka getting hurt :/ Kido should have stayed longer and explained some things to Madoka, maybe that happened but they just didn't show it.
Kido really deserved that punch!!! Goodluck to Madoka :)
That card will lead to the new character.

Nasost said:
I hated this chapter, because of the way the break up was handled. I was so very angry and disappointed in the way Kido treated Madoka that I almost didn't want to continue reading the story with such a character and had to tell myself that the scene was just badly written.
I also felt the need to write a bit of a rant on the subject.

Finally, I think a large source of her pain would be that he was just completely abandoning her, leaving a huge gaping hole in her heart. This was unnecessary. Though it may be a little awkward at times, I don't think there is any reason that he couldn't remain her friend. Instead of leaving a big hole, he could just change his position in her heart a bit. He could reassure her that he would still be there for her, to talk to or to encourage her when she needed it. He could say that he would even watch over her, and make sure that the guy she chose, when she was ready, would be someone who would treat her right.

Nasost said:
I hated this chapter, because of the way the break up was handled. I was so very angry and disappointed in the way Kido treated Madoka that I almost didn't want to continue reading the story with such a character and had to tell myself that the scene was just badly written.
I also felt the need to write a bit of a rant on the subject.
The way he treated her was just simply, terribly hateful. I know, he didn't actually hate her, and his dread of going to her and his tears afterward showed that. However, without him meaning to, his actions were hateful. If you saw someone go into someone else's home and rip their heart out and leave it bleeding on the floor, what conclusion would you come to but that that person hated the other. He left her confused, begging and crying hysterically, full of self-blame and bearing a wound that would probably take a long time to heal.
The part that bothered me the most was the panel that had him thinking something like, 'I wanted to hug her trembling shoulders but I resisted. I wanted to tell her how wonderful she was. . . but I no longer had the right to . . . that would have just been kindness to set myself at peace.' The really sad thing, the thing that bothered me so much more, is that I think this kind of thinking must actually sometimes happen in the real world, and it is all caused by a misunderstanding about what 'love' is. Kido, or perhaps the writer, was confusing feeling love toward someone (caring about them, wanting the best for them, wanting them to be happy) with being in love with someone (romantic feelings, thinking that they are the One you want to be with). These are actually two different things, and can exist separately. Since that was not understood, he tragically assumed that since he was no longer in love with her, he must therefore no longer love her, and therefore no longer treat her with love. This stupid semantic misunderstanding even overruled his correct urge to comfort her, and instead he acted coldly toward her, making things much much more painful than they needed to be.
'No longer had the right' to comfort and reassure her? I say he had the OBLIGATION to, as her friend that he mistakenly thought he was no longer supposed to be, as as another feeling human being.
'That would have just been kindness to set myself at peace'? Yes, but that's how we're made. It's called Empathy, and it's part of love. He was feeling her pain in his heart, and he properly had the urge to ease it. Acting to ease the pain he was feeling, doing that 'kindness', would have also acted to ease her pain, which, again, he was under obligation to do as well as he could.
I could tell well in advance, as most of us probably could, that this break up was going to come eventually. I really hoped that it would be done well, in some way that would not leave Madoka hurt. I see her as nothing but a sweet, kind, innocent girl who loves strongly (her boyfriend as well as her friends) and never did anything bad to anyone. (I disregard her behavior toward Emiru at the end because it was the result of Emiru expertly and meticulously pushing all of her buttons, including making her act protectively of Kido.) After the Letter, when it was definite that the breakup was coming soon, I thought a lot about what the best way would be to do it with minimal damage to Madoka (yes I really get into these emotional stories).
The first thing he should have done was have her put some sort of clothing on. This would help her feel more secure, less exposed, and also less cold! Also, sitting facing her and maybe holding her hands would have been more reassuring as well.
The next most important thing would be to set matters straight regarding Emiru, and clear her name. This would achieve several things. It would help Madoka see that the person she had regarded so highly before was, in fact, the person she had thought she was. Madoka doesn't seem to really have many friends and it would be nice if she could feel like she had a friend in her instead of an enemy. It would also help her understand that Kido wasn't leaving her for some terrible betraying monster who oppressed him, but for a wonderful (if strange) girl who loved Kido so much that she was willing to take all that pain onto herself for his sake. I think that feeling that the person he was choosing over her was someone whom she regarded highly would take a little of the sting out of it. Also, after Madoka's initial pain faded away, it would be encouraging for her to know that the guy she loved was with someone who would love him and protect him so fiercely. Finally, Emiru deserved to not be hated by someone she had considered a friend.
Next, he needed to reassure her of may things. That it was not her fault. That she did nothing wrong, but that he had just finally realized that he was in love with a girl whom he had met a year before her: the timing was just bad. That she, Madoka, was a wonderful person who deserved to be loved, and that he hoped she would one day find someone that would be deserving of her. That he was grateful for all the love she showed him and would never forget it.
Finally, I think a large source of her pain would be that he was just completely abandoning her, leaving a huge gaping hole in her heart. This was unnecessary. Though it may be a little awkward at times, I don't think there is any reason that he couldn't remain her friend. Instead of leaving a big hole, he could just change his position in her heart a bit. He could reassure her that he would still be there for her, to talk to or to encourage her when she needed it. He could say that he would even watch over her, and make sure that the guy she chose, when she was ready, would be someone who would treat her right.
Anyway, I feel better about the story by imagining that when he came out of her apartment building, someone would slap him around a bit, call him an idiot, explain these things to him, and send him back up to fix it. The writer just left that part out.
Sorry for the length of this rant, but that part of the story just really got me thinking. If you are still reading this at this point, I thank you.
What do you think of all of this?