Turn A Gundam Episode 43 Discussion

Marzan said:
This is kind of a sequel to the UC Gundam.

Sol_Ou said:
hopefully after war gundam X will hint at some turn a stuff.

Serhiyko said:

No, not really

Serhiyko said:

Not only UC; there were also scenes shown from other alternate universes. I'm not sure how much correctly is doing that, but it was the idea of the series from the start, since Turn A kinda means union

JGChaves said:


Exactly. Dark History=Every single Gundam universe. The manual for the Master Grade Turn-X model implies the series that came after Turn A are also included, which actually makes sense from a meta perspective, since Tomino wrote this to acknowledge that the alternate universes were also "true" Gundam.

Of course, how this is possible IN-UNIVERSE is not clear. I saw the "world-wide-ring" from G Gundam this episode, but how can this series be part of the same universe of the other Gundam series? And there are so much more questions! How come we keep having New York Cities, Romes and other such places when human civilization keeps getting destroyed and re-built? How come the word Gundam keeps coming up with diferente meanings? Let's be honest here, the Dark History makes NO SENSE!

At the end of the Universal Century era, space colonies around the Solar System finally had had enough of the constant war occurring around the Earth Sphere. The fact that the Earth had been turned into a nigh-uninhabitable rock didn't help things either. So, most space colonies underwent an exodus to colonize other systems, with only a few colonies remaining behind with the Earthnoids. Eventually, everyone left in the Solar System forgot about the exodus of space colonies, and life returned to normal.

Centuries later, an unknown mobile suit, the Turn X, was discovered drifting in a debris cloud just past Pluto. This news shocked both the Earthnoids and Spacenoids, since they realized that the Turn X surpassed all mobile suit technology they had. If the colonists who left Earth had developed that advance technology, then nobody would stand a chance against them if they decided to invade the Solar System.

To that end, the Spacenoids and Earthnoids collaborated to repair the Turn X, analyze the technology inside, and build their own version, the Turn A Gundam. The symbol "Turn A" can be used to mathematically denote a complete set, and the Turn A Gundam was called that because it contained all of the most powerful technology in it. Going along those lines, the Turn X was called so because it was a Turn Unit from beyond Planet X.

The most powerful of the weapons possessed by both the Turn A and Turn X was a nanomachine system called the Moonlight Butterfly. It was a system of self-replicating nanomachines that could reduce anything it identified as technology into sand and dust. It's full operational range extended all the way to Jupiter. All it takes for a Turn Unit to use the Moonlight Butterfly is the nanomachines to start the process, energy to activate the nanomachines, and a program to run the nanomachines.

Eventually, both the Turn X and Turn A were completed and made fully functional. However, at some point after that, another conflict grew between the Earthnoids and Spacenoids, and each of the two sides both had a Turn Unit at their disposal.

The war lasted for years and years, until the only thing that could be done to end it was activate the Moonlight Butterfly. Thus, the Turn A activated it's Moonlight Butterfly unit, completely destroying all of civilization in the Solar System. Once the dust settled, both the Turn A and Turn X powered down into a dormant state, and were lost.

Some technology managed to survive the apocalypse brought upon by the Moonlight Butterfly, thanks to a special coating of nanoskin that negated any effects of nanomachine damage. A group of survivors used that technology to live on the Moon, and they became the Moon Race. As the Moon Race entered cryosleep to survive, the survivors left on Earth rebuilt civilization and helped repair the Earth.

Thus began the cycle of death and rebirth caused by the Moonlight Butterfly. Humans kept on developing mobile suits and Gundams, and conflicts between Spacenoids and Earthnoids kept on happening. The Turn Units always kept on being rediscovered, and their Moonlight Butterflies were always activated to completely destroy civilization in an endless cycle of war and revenge. This is the future of series such as (or at least similar to) G Gundam, Gundam Wing, After War Gundam X, and so on. All eventually gets destroyed because of the Moonlight Butterfly.

In every one of those cycles, Mountain Cycles were discovered along with the Turn Units, and more weaponry was put in those every time to preserve them. In addition, the Moon Race grew, thanks to survivors of those apocalyptic events entering cryosleep on the Moon. But no matter what happened, civilization always got destroyed and reborn, and humanity always took longer and longer to redevelop advanced technology.

The latest iteration of the cycle is the Correct Century of Turn A Gundam. Humanity remained in a technologically stagnant age for centuries, until the Moon Race's resettlement plans and the discovery of the Mountain Cycles. The Turn A Gundam was left on the Earth, and the Turn X hidden on the Moon. But as to how the latest version of the cycle will end, who can say at this point?

Serhiyko said:

Not only UC; there were also scenes shown from other alternate universes. I'm not sure how much correctly is doing that, but it was the idea of the series from the start, since Turn A kinda means union