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Mar 20, 2012 3:26 PM
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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Don't know Japanese so trying to describe the pictures in the RAWS the best I can.

Kagefusa visits the old nun (same woman who made Chifusa build the nipple rock fountain)

Now I THINK she might actually be Kagefusa's mother.

IIRC the anime named the nun Juchini.

Old nun tells her a story so there's a flashback when the nun was young. The young version of the nun does share a resemblance to Kagefusa.

And I think you also see a young Munenori Manyuu (Chifusa's, Kagefusa's, Kyoka's and Muneyuki's father).

Seems they both traveled together and were lovers (lots of naked boobs and shown sleeping next to each other nude).

The old nun used to be an aggressive and short tempered person and I think trained with Munenori too but she eventually "mellowed out" kind of like how Kagefusa did.

However it seems he already had a lover; the mother of Kyoka; the eldest Manyuu child.

I guess after giving birth to Kagefusa she left the Manyuu clan and became a nun (why? Probably disagreeing with Munenori's vision or didn't want to share him or something).

Chapter ends with Kagefusa talking to her father (I guess confirming the nun's story?).

After she leaves the room Munenori coughs up blood.

Guess he's got a bad sickness.

End of volume 3!


here's a family tree and chart if it helps


http://i43.tinypic.com/x1c38h.jpg

first pic (top left corner):
Juchini (old nun) appearance in the present, appearance in the past (originally)

photo to the right:
Munenori Manyuu young (past), and Munenori Manyuu (present)

You see a line connected between them (lovers)

You also see another line linked between Juchini's original young look and her later appearance.

To the left of the "later" Juchini is a woman. She is Kyoka Manyuu mother.

Under her is Kyoka (child).

Under the "later" Juchini is Muneyuki and Kagefusa (her children)

Under Muneyuki is Ouka (bodyguard).

To the right of "later" Juchini is Chikumi (Chifusa's mother)

To Chikumi's right is her mother (Chifusa's grandmother)

We also see Momoha Munamori (part of that clan).

Under Chikumi is Chifusa (her child).

And connected to Chifusa is Kaede (servant)
Mr_EcchiMar 26, 2012 1:37 AM
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I think, Juchini is not the mother of both Muneyuki and Kagefusa Manyuu. In the Manyuu Family Tree, if you look closely, between Juchini and Kagefusa Mother, there are straight line. The same line that connect Chikumi and Chifusa. So, I'm sure, Kagefusa's mother, in fact, is Juchini's daughter. That means Juchini is Muneyuki's and Kagefusa's grandmother. Also, you can make a conclusion from Juchini's past story...

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It’s time to ditch the text file.
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