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Aug 25, 2011 1:03 PM
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Dude just light a match with his teeth? Duuude

So Kihel Heim can dodge bullets and knows more about the moon factions than Guin ever did? And just like with Loran/Laura, Harry seems like he knows more than he lets on in this Dianna/Kihel business. But there's no way we can tell this soon, it could always be just a fluke.

In any case, it was a nice episode.
Apr 25, 2012 3:32 AM
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Oh yeah I think Harry has worked it out. He is a Char.
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Aug 28, 2012 1:31 AM
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Harry has got to know by now...and the militia are still idiots.
Dec 13, 2012 6:13 PM
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Marzan said:
Oh yeah I think Harry has worked it out. He is a Char.


Yeah. Pretty good episode. I don't know, though. It's just hard for me to buy that Kihel is so knowledgeable about the Moon Race and is apparently now able to dodge bullets.
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Jun 30, 2013 6:56 PM
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atomusku said:
Dude just light a match with his teeth? Duuude


I want a gif of that.

What even. Do they really still think Loran and Laura are two different people? Why is Loran a crossdresser. It's so weird. I mean, it wouldn't be weird if it made sense, but it makes NO SENSE. He's just randomly a crossdresser because. What even!

>_> And I still don't really get why Dianna and Kihel switched places. It's obviously worked out well, but it seemed like a whim that they took too seriously way too long.

Charry's glasses are beginning to bother me. How exactly are those red bug eyes held onto his face? Is he super bishie like all the other Chars~? It would be funny if one actually had an ugly scar like they're usually accused of hiding.
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Oh yeah, finally somebody has noticed! I thought that would never happen

And how was she able to dodge those bullets? Maybe she had some training

Looks like this declaration of hers put the Moonrace in a delicate place. I think what Dianna Soriel is thinking about that.
Apr 13, 2014 10:11 AM
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That speech was great.
Jan 25, 2015 10:24 PM
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By now I just want Dianna and Khiel to switch back because it's getting annoying...great speech though.
Aug 19, 2015 3:42 PM
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insan3Inquisitor said:
Marzan said:
Oh yeah I think Harry has worked it out. He is a Char.


Yeah. Pretty good episode. I don't know, though. It's just hard for me to buy that Kihel is so knowledgeable about the Moon Race and is apparently now able to dodge bullets.


She's been Dianna for long enough to learn about the inner workings of the moon people, that's totally believable. The dodging bullets thing is also somewhat believable since she just didn't stay still. The close range knife fighting however, that's a load of bull.
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atomusku said:
Dude just light a match with his teeth? Duuude


I want a gif of that.

What even. Do they really still think Loran and Laura are two different people? Why is Loran a crossdresser. It's so weird. I mean, it wouldn't be weird if it made sense, but it makes NO SENSE. He's just randomly a crossdresser because. What even!

>_> And I still don't really get why Dianna and Kihel switched places. It's obviously worked out well, but it seemed like a whim that they took too seriously way too long.

Charry's glasses are beginning to bother me. How exactly are those red bug eyes held onto his face? Is he super bishie like all the other Chars~? It would be funny if one actually had an ugly scar like they're usually accused of hiding.


Dianna and Kihel did switch as a joke at first but then they got separated and weren't able to meet to switch back so they just kind of rolled with it. They didn't intend to be switched for so long though.
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Returning to this show after a long pause of several weeks, I was surprised by this interesting but sudden 180º turn Kihel forced the Moonrace into.

Glad to see that Harry isn't as blind as he could have been about Kihel too.

5/5 The assassin's skills were pretty rusty after her stay on Earth.
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By now I just want Dianna and Khiel to switch back because it's getting annoying...great speech though.


With you on this one! For some reason I think this entire switch is dumb.. but it did seem like Dianna, towards the end of Kihel's speech, put her in that position on purpose.

And Kihel dodged bullets.. so? Simply could have been from training. The speech was fantastic and this episode was solid.
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Harry is a sharp man after all, because he is still a Char.. Too bad he can't see Laura/Loran business because sometimes a sharp man also blinded by love, lol ...

Great development for Kihel though ...
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Jan 4, 2020 7:24 PM
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Wow, Kihel can defend herself better than her guards.
Jul 12, 2020 7:59 PM

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So, this is like the second time they called their switching a 'prank.' And here I was convinced that it was part of Dianna's strategy to calm down the more extreme elements in her forces. Either way, it seems to be starting to work out like that (though it took a while).
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I'm pretty sure that a shot of Sochie's feet near "Kiehl's" face could only appear in a thing directed by Tomino, this scene cracked me up so hard xD It almost deserves a gif (along with the scene of lighting a match with one's teeth)

Harry dropped an interesting tidbit regarding hybernation: there're different "levels" of this technology's quality (depending on one's social position, it seems)

"Diana's" speech was a nice subversion of the Newtype idea, affirming the unity of humanity (basically saying that Moon"race" isn't real). The whole assassination attempt and everything that led to it was great, I appreciate the certain diversity of action scenes in Turn A (compared to bland Zeta sameness)

P.S. I couldn't figure out the voice to be 100% sure but was there a scene with Reinford's lover? Or were these people just some motel guests?

P.P.S. I wonder how exactly did Harry "expose" Kiehl. How long had he been aware? Maybe only the speech was the key...or their talk about his past? Maybe Diana was supposed to know that.
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Kiehl's speech was wonderful, great character development, too bad the militia is a group of idiots and they will forever ruin peace, togheter with the Dianna counter.
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