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Mar 13, 5:51 PM

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Mostly the animation

Mar 13, 5:51 PM

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The original work is considered a genuinely good story and read but what people don't like about this adaptation is because they've waited years for it and it's been handed to a studio that doesnt have an excellent track record.

Imagine if Demon slayer was done by Studio deen, I guess that's a suitable analogy.

I haven't read it so I'm open to enjoying the anime though.

Mar 13, 6:45 PM

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The thing is, it's not like this studio produced bad animation, it's just extremely mid. TBATE was considered best when it comes to writing, some even think it's better than mushoku tensei. So people expect the same treatment since even something like solo leveling could get amazing animation despite the mid story telling. Fans are just sad since from the trailer, it does look like those typical mid isekai shows.

Mar 13, 9:07 PM

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Reply to Biisoo

The original work is considered a genuinely good story and read but what people don't like about this adaptation is because they've waited years for it and it's been handed to a studio that doesnt have an excellent track record.

Imagine if Demon slayer was done by Studio deen, I guess that's a suitable analogy.

I haven't read it so I'm open to enjoying the anime though.

@Biisoo As someone who has read the manhwa I suggest you read it, I know it's hard to predict how bad the adaptation will be but in any case the art in the original is so good that it would be better to read it first, of course at the beginning of the story the art is worse so it doesn't matter whether you watch or read it, but if there is a sequel and the animation is worse than the original I would advise you to read the original work first. I'm not sure how well Arthur (the main character) will be voice acted, based on the trailer it seems that they will keep his adult inner voice (like Rudeus from Mushoku) which seems like a terrible decision to me, (personally) I always imagine Arthur with one voice and I don't think he will fit as well as Rudeus because in TBATE (abbreviation for the name) the comparison between past and present is different. What I am going to say now is not a spoiler as information about what is happening in the story, but only a way of telling the story and details that can be seen already in the first episode/chupter.
Actually, the way the story is told is a spoiler since it stays like that for a while and also applies to after the first chupter.

Read at your own risk!

As a reader, I think that this adaptation will be bad not only because of the not so good animation, but also in other areas of the production, especially the voice acting (maybe I'm a little subjective). Because of the language and format of the manwa and the complexity of the Japanese language and the limited quality of the animation I feel like they have to put an elephant through a glass shop. For readers, the quality of the animation may be negligible in the beginning, since the art in the original is a bit sloppy at the beginning, but as the anime continues (IF it continues, or if the season covers a larger part of the story), the difference in quality will probably be visible. I hope that Turtleme (the author) has watched a lot of anime in the sub because on the contrary, the decisions about conveying meaning, social positions, ways of addressing... are in the hands of a producer (even if it's a pro, he couldn't have any great experience since the cases when entire stories are translated or rather converted from English to Japanese are very rare, the manhwas are usually in Korean and in the case of some games in English, they have more artistic freedom, since it is a game adaptation, there is usually more room for changing the story). I'm not a big expert in this industry and everything I mentioned could be totally unnecessary concern, it's just my opinion.

I know it's not the topic of the discussion, but I'll write in case someone hasn't noticed, the name of the anime "Saikyou no Ousama, Nidome no Jinsei wa Nani wo Suru?” (What will the most powerful king do in his second life?) is completely different from the original "The beginning after the end", I know that it is difficult to create a title in Japanese (if it is even necessary, there are a lot of anime with titles in English that are a little louder and shorter, but it's better to be longer something bad) but it sounds very stupid to me (this may just be my opinion), as if it is some generic isekai. I don't know about the web novel, but in the manhwa it was never mentioned that Arthur was the "strongest king".
Sorry for the length of the comment

Mar 13, 9:07 PM

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mccreepyy

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Biisoo said:
The original work is considered a genuinely good story and read but what people don't like about this adaptation is because they've waited years for it and it's been handed to a studio that doesnt have an excellent track record.

Imagine if Demon slayer was done by Studio deen, I guess that's a suitable analogy.

I haven't read it so I'm open to enjoying the anime though.

wouldn't make much of a difference. only thing carrying that series is the art and animation

Mar 13, 9:25 PM

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mccreepyy said:

Biisoo said:
The original work is considered a genuinely good story and read but what people don't like about this adaptation is because they've waited years for it and it's been handed to a studio that doesnt have an excellent track record.

Imagine if Demon slayer was done by Studio deen, I guess that's a suitable analogy.

I haven't read it so I'm open to enjoying the anime though.

wouldn't make much of a difference. only thing carrying that series is the art and animation

you are right, demon slayer is bad example, imagine if ____________ was made by studio deen, it's hard to make a suitable analogy because TBATE is unique story. Imagine any peak story in your mind that is not carryed by art or animation but hvave good art.
Point is it deserves better.

Mar 13, 10:04 PM

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All i hear are animation complaints and that it's average, if that's all and they adapt the story itself fine (as I heard the novel is amazing), then I guess everything should be fine, helck had average animation, but I loved it because of the story, there was also the fire hunter and such, if they adapt the story just fine, the average animation is not gonna be a problem

Mar 14, 5:10 AM

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vesamija8 said:
@Biisoo As someone who has read the manhwa I suggest you read it, I know it's hard to predict how bad the adaptation will be but in any case the art in the original is so good that it would be better to read it first, of course at the beginning of the story the art is worse so it doesn't matter whether you watch or read it, but if there is a sequel and the animation is worse than the original I would advise you to read the original work first. I'm not sure how well Arthur (the main character) will be voice acted, based on the trailer it seems that they will keep his adult inner voice (like Rudeus from Mushoku) which seems like a terrible decision to me, (personally) I always imagine Arthur with one voice and I don't think he will fit as well as Rudeus because in TBATE (abbreviation for the name) the comparison between past and present is different. What I am going to say now is not a spoiler as information about what is happening in the story, but only a way of telling the story and details that can be seen already in the first episode/chupter.
Actually, the way the story is told is a spoiler since it stays like that for a while and also applies to after the first chupter.

Read at your own risk!

As a reader, I think that this adaptation will be bad not only because of the not so good animation, but also in other areas of the production, especially the voice acting (maybe I'm a little subjective). Because of the language and format of the manwa and the complexity of the Japanese language and the limited quality of the animation I feel like they have to put an elephant through a glass shop. For readers, the quality of the animation may be negligible in the beginning, since the art in the original is a bit sloppy at the beginning, but as the anime continues (IF it continues, or if the season covers a larger part of the story), the difference in quality will probably be visible. I hope that Turtleme (the author) has watched a lot of anime in the sub because on the contrary, the decisions about conveying meaning, social positions, ways of addressing... are in the hands of a producer (even if it's a pro, he couldn't have any great experience since the cases when entire stories are translated or rather converted from English to Japanese are very rare, the manhwas are usually in Korean and in the case of some games in English, they have more artistic freedom, since it is a game adaptation, there is usually more room for changing the story). I'm not a big expert in this industry and everything I mentioned could be totally unnecessary concern, it's just my opinion.

I know it's not the topic of the discussion, but I'll write in case someone hasn't noticed, the name of the anime "Saikyou no Ousama, Nidome no Jinsei wa Nani wo Suru?” (What will the most powerful king do in his second life?) is completely different from the original "The beginning after the end", I know that it is difficult to create a title in Japanese (if it is even necessary, there are a lot of anime with titles in English that are a little louder and shorter, but it's better to be longer something bad) but it sounds very stupid to me (this may just be my opinion), as if it is some generic isekai. I don't know about the web novel, but in the manhwa it was never mentioned that Arthur was the "strongest king".
Sorry for the length of the comment

I wanted to read even Solo leveling but lately I haven't had much time but if the season is atleast a little good or even very bad, I will end up reading the source material anyways.

Mar 14, 3:23 PM

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mid animation isn't really a turn off for me. My problems with many anime adaptations lie with bad pacing, skipping content, bad voice acting. If this adaptation can nail these 3, then it's a good adaptation in my book. It's subjective though. Many ppl will be on the lookout for the animations mostly as that's really the main selling point of an animated film.

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Mar 14, 5:03 PM

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Biisoo said:
The original work is considered a genuinely good story and read but what people don't like about this adaptation is because they've waited years for it and it's been handed to a studio that doesnt have an excellent track record.

Imagine if Demon slayer was done by Studio deen, I guess that's a suitable analogy.

I haven't read it so I'm open to enjoying the anime though.

I think they are doing the same thing that with Viral Hit, they just gave the project to a random studio with the goal of getting just more manwha readers, they don’t care if the animation is good or not, I wouldn’t be surprised if a 2nd season is not even planned.

Mar 15, 2:32 AM

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J2C said:

Biisoo said:
The original work is considered a genuinely good story and read but what people don't like about this adaptation is because they've waited years for it and it's been handed to a studio that doesnt have an excellent track record.

Imagine if Demon slayer was done by Studio deen, I guess that's a suitable analogy.

I haven't read it so I'm open to enjoying the anime though.

I think they are doing the same thing that with Viral Hit, they just gave the project to a random studio with the goal of getting just more manwha readers, they don’t care if the animation is good or not, I wouldn’t be surprised if a 2nd season is not even planned.

Now that you mention it, I remember Viral hit. Heck, even Lookism wasn't that great I think, It was just a one and done kinda show mainly as an advertisement for the source material.

I guess it makes sense they do the same approach with TBATE, to sell the webtoon.

Mar 19, 3:45 PM

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optie

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@Biisoo As someone who has read the manhwa I suggest you read it, I know it's hard to predict how bad the adaptation will be but in any case the art in the original is so good that it would be better to read it first, of course at the beginning of the story the art is worse so it doesn't matter whether you watch or read it, but if there is a sequel and the animation is worse than the original I would advise you to read the original work first. I'm not sure how well Arthur (the main character) will be voice acted, based on the trailer it seems that they will keep his adult inner voice (like Rudeus from Mushoku) which seems like a terrible decision to me, (personally) I always imagine Arthur with one voice and I don't think he will fit as well as Rudeus because in TBATE (abbreviation for the name) the comparison between past and present is different. What I am going to say now is not a spoiler as information about what is happening in the story, but only a way of telling the story and details that can be seen already in the first episode/chupter.
Actually, the way the story is told is a spoiler since it stays like that for a while and also applies to after the first chupter.

Read at your own risk!

As a reader, I think that this adaptation will be bad not only because of the not so good animation, but also in other areas of the production, especially the voice acting (maybe I'm a little subjective). Because of the language and format of the manwa and the complexity of the Japanese language and the limited quality of the animation I feel like they have to put an elephant through a glass shop. For readers, the quality of the animation may be negligible in the beginning, since the art in the original is a bit sloppy at the beginning, but as the anime continues (IF it continues, or if the season covers a larger part of the story), the difference in quality will probably be visible. I hope that Turtleme (the author) has watched a lot of anime in the sub because on the contrary, the decisions about conveying meaning, social positions, ways of addressing... are in the hands of a producer (even if it's a pro, he couldn't have any great experience since the cases when entire stories are translated or rather converted from English to Japanese are very rare, the manhwas are usually in Korean and in the case of some games in English, they have more artistic freedom, since it is a game adaptation, there is usually more room for changing the story). I'm not a big expert in this industry and everything I mentioned could be totally unnecessary concern, it's just my opinion.

I know it's not the topic of the discussion, but I'll write in case someone hasn't noticed, the name of the anime "Saikyou no Ousama, Nidome no Jinsei wa Nani wo Suru?” (What will the most powerful king do in his second life?) is completely different from the original "The beginning after the end", I know that it is difficult to create a title in Japanese (if it is even necessary, there are a lot of anime with titles in English that are a little louder and shorter, but it's better to be longer something bad) but it sounds very stupid to me (this may just be my opinion), as if it is some generic isekai. I don't know about the web novel, but in the manhwa it was never mentioned that Arthur was the "strongest king".
Sorry for the length of the comment

@vesamija8 and if you want the best experience possible do yourself a favor and read the novel

Mar 19, 5:49 PM

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optie said:
@vesamija8 and if you want the best experience possible do yourself a favor and read the novel

I probably will in the future, by the way how much cut content is there?

Mar 19, 9:42 PM

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Just reread the Manwha, it just keeps getting better each chapter. My hopes are not that high to get the war arc animated

Mar 20, 7:21 PM

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I love how all of you losers here think animation = score, damn y'all are losers.

Mar 20, 7:23 PM

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mccreepyy said:

Biisoo said:
The original work is considered a genuinely good story and read but what people don't like about this adaptation is because they've waited years for it and it's been handed to a studio that doesnt have an excellent track record.

Imagine if Demon slayer was done by Studio deen, I guess that's a suitable analogy.

I haven't read it so I'm open to enjoying the anime though.

wouldn't make much of a difference. only thing carrying that series is the art and animation

you are right, demon slayer is bad example, imagine if ____________ was made by studio deen, it's hard to make a suitable analogy because TBATE is unique story. Imagine any peak story in your mind that is not carryed by art or animation but hvave good art.
Point is it deserves better.

@vesamija8 you are a fucking loser.

Mar 20, 7:23 PM

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I love how all of you losers here think animation = score, damn y'all are losers.

@TheSekiryuutei News flash: people wanted an ANIMATED medium to be animated.

Mar 21, 6:16 AM

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vesamija8

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TheSekiryuutei said:
@vesamija8 you are a fucking loser.

I would like a more specific critique if possible.
I don't think that animation = score, I don't really care about score (if you literally mean score), animation is just one of the potential problems of this adaptation, if everything else is good, animation would be negligible, but I doubt it will be like that.

Mar 23, 6:32 AM

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@Biisoo As someone who has read the manhwa I suggest you read it, I know it's hard to predict how bad the adaptation will be but in any case the art in the original is so good that it would be better to read it first, of course at the beginning of the story the art is worse so it doesn't matter whether you watch or read it, but if there is a sequel and the animation is worse than the original I would advise you to read the original work first. I'm not sure how well Arthur (the main character) will be voice acted, based on the trailer it seems that they will keep his adult inner voice (like Rudeus from Mushoku) which seems like a terrible decision to me, (personally) I always imagine Arthur with one voice and I don't think he will fit as well as Rudeus because in TBATE (abbreviation for the name) the comparison between past and present is different. What I am going to say now is not a spoiler as information about what is happening in the story, but only a way of telling the story and details that can be seen already in the first episode/chupter.
Actually, the way the story is told is a spoiler since it stays like that for a while and also applies to after the first chupter.

Read at your own risk!

As a reader, I think that this adaptation will be bad not only because of the not so good animation, but also in other areas of the production, especially the voice acting (maybe I'm a little subjective). Because of the language and format of the manwa and the complexity of the Japanese language and the limited quality of the animation I feel like they have to put an elephant through a glass shop. For readers, the quality of the animation may be negligible in the beginning, since the art in the original is a bit sloppy at the beginning, but as the anime continues (IF it continues, or if the season covers a larger part of the story), the difference in quality will probably be visible. I hope that Turtleme (the author) has watched a lot of anime in the sub because on the contrary, the decisions about conveying meaning, social positions, ways of addressing... are in the hands of a producer (even if it's a pro, he couldn't have any great experience since the cases when entire stories are translated or rather converted from English to Japanese are very rare, the manhwas are usually in Korean and in the case of some games in English, they have more artistic freedom, since it is a game adaptation, there is usually more room for changing the story). I'm not a big expert in this industry and everything I mentioned could be totally unnecessary concern, it's just my opinion.

I know it's not the topic of the discussion, but I'll write in case someone hasn't noticed, the name of the anime "Saikyou no Ousama, Nidome no Jinsei wa Nani wo Suru?” (What will the most powerful king do in his second life?) is completely different from the original "The beginning after the end", I know that it is difficult to create a title in Japanese (if it is even necessary, there are a lot of anime with titles in English that are a little louder and shorter, but it's better to be longer something bad) but it sounds very stupid to me (this may just be my opinion), as if it is some generic isekai. I don't know about the web novel, but in the manhwa it was never mentioned that Arthur was the "strongest king".
Sorry for the length of the comment

@vesamija8

The novel itself doesn't really say much of anything about Arthur's voice, but the audiobook does it in the way you're describing it - it becomes deeper and less childish as time progresses. The novel doesn't say anything about whether we get to see his face in the beginning from what I remember. IMO that's a minor point. It doesn't really change much, other than us getting slightly more information about his past life than we have in the manhwa.

Minor novel spoilers:

I 100% agree that sloppy animation in later arcs could ruin the whole thing. There's some scenes that would make my heart weep if they were made into powerpoints or CGI. But that's only if the anime even gets to that point... It might take years for them to get to the post-university arc, and that's only if they decide to do multiple seasons. Unless they rush it and it turns out bad anyway.

It's pretty stupid that they changed the title even though "The Beginning After the End" already goes so hard, but yeah - Gray was considered the strongest king in the novel. He was the strongest king with the weakest ki center (which, ironically, could be the title of an isekai all on its own).

But I'm pretty hopeful for it. Even if the animation ends up being trashy, I'm surprised it's even getting an anime adaptation in the first place.

Mar 25, 7:20 AM

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optie said:
@vesamija8 and if you want the best experience possible do yourself a favor and read the novel

I probably will in the future, by the way how much cut content is there?

@vesamija8 Not sure about the cut content, because I haven’t actually read anything in the novel before the part where Arthur trains in Epheotus, but it was a very worthwhile read. I’ve laid it off for a bit now because it’s still releasing but I’ll return when it’s finished. I’m at chapter 447.

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