What is Goku's best transformation/power post Z?

Irshiki said:
Super Saiyan 4 is delusional. It really is an asspull since they really had to pull Goku's tail from his ass. There is no build up for a fourth stage, it happen out of nowhere and most important, it happen by luck. Over that, it has nothing to do with the previous stages of Super Saiyan, it really don't follow up what written in the story or the evolusion through the three stages and it is based on a filler story made by Toei for Dragon Ball Z (not to mention the fact that it's not even a canon transformation and it is out of the continuity, so I don't really understand why people put so much effort in praising something so useless).
The UI on the other hand it's not a transformation and it has nothing to with Saiyans or the Super Saiyan transformations. There's a build up since the Resurrection of F saga and happen by luck during the Tournament of Power saga, then it follow up a couple of other time and it ends with the mastered version, which is depicted in way no other transformation has ever been depicted before, it really set up standard. But most important, it exist in the story, people know it, talk about it, some of them are jealous of Goku, some of them try to figure out how did he gain that power and some of them are simply proud.
For Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue I can say they are cool, not something much incredible but it's okay. From the last two I prefer Blue over God because I like the idea of the blue hair and the color scheme of its aura.
So to end it a choose Ultra Instinct, though I prefer the omen version over the mastered.

TheMonstaZ said:

Super Saiyan 4 is cool as shit, therefore it's my favourite 😎.

Irshiki said:
Super Saiyan 4 is delusional. It really is an asspull since they really had to pull Goku's tail from his ass. There is no build up for a fourth stage, it happen out of nowhere and most important, it happen by luck. Over that, it has nothing to do with the previous stages of Super Saiyan, it really don't follow up what written in the story or the evolusion through the three stages and it is based on a filler story made by Toei for Dragon Ball Z (not to mention the fact that it's not even a canon transformation and it is out of the continuity, so I don't really understand why people put so much effort in praising something so useless).
The UI on the other hand it's not a transformation and it has nothing to with Saiyans or the Super Saiyan transformations. There's a build up since the Resurrection of F saga and happen by luck during the Tournament of Power saga, then it follow up a couple of other time and it ends with the mastered version, which is depicted in way no other transformation has ever been depicted before, it really set up standard. But most important, it exist in the story, people know it, talk about it, some of them are jealous of Goku, some of them try to figure out how did he gain that power and some of them are simply proud.
For Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue I can say they are cool, not something much incredible but it's okay. From the last two I prefer Blue over God because I like the idea of the blue hair and the color scheme of its aura.
So to end it a choose Ultra Instinct, though I prefer the omen version over the mastered.

Gantz613-EXIT said:

SSJ4 is pretty cool imo.
It’s all about harnessing the power of of a great ape into a super saiyan form.

To me it’s like the Saiyan’s tapping into something primal.

God also came absolutely out of nowhere too.

Irshiki said:

Super Saiyan God is the natural continuation of the Majin Buu saga. We find out that Kaioshin is not very strong, but his Ki is something else and it is very special. What is it? We find out with Beerus and Super Saiyan God, it is God Ki. So what it is? It's simply a Super Saiyan with God Ki.
What is Super Saiyan 4? Obviously it has something to do with Saiyans and Oozaru but what is other than that? I can't really say? Why is called 4 if it has nothing to do with Super Saiyan? I know why, it's because it's not Toriyama's material, Super Saiyan always was a single transformation with various stages and those stages are advanced version of the previous, there never was Super Saiyan 2 or 3, it was a show Goku put on to gain time against Buu. So why didn't Super Saiyan 4 followed the scheme? Because they really didn't know what to do. And that's not only with its story, but also with what would happen in the series, Goku transform into a Super Saiyan Oozaru and then, by luck, regain control and transform into Super Saiyan 4. How's that? So it's another transformation, that's why he doesn't follow the scheme of Super Saiyan, but why is it still called Super Saiyan 4?
I don't mean to argue, to me it's just a stupid transformation, I understand why many people like it, but I really can't do that.
For the many of you who doesn't know, I know why Super Saiyan 4 isn't "blonde", Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru, designer of this transformation, reveal during an interview that it is based on tha Kabuki costumes.

Domukelis said:

we get it you don't like it, it's all good bro 🤣