Contradiction?

Sep 28, 2024 7:12 PM

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In ep 4, Tesla says that ruu cannot be healed or revived, but then what about Nikola and her village? Were they different people every time? With the same name, appearance, background and apparent memories? Always knowing who haga was? I must be missing something.

Maybe I'm going mad at the cartoonishly evil bastards, specifically the blonde motherfucker, with that stupid tone and voice that makes me turn down the volume. Don't even know the va, but I know kawashima, who I'm also not a fan of with that silly femboy voice. And now he's concurrent cast. Damn, send help.

Sep 28, 2024 7:23 PM

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I haven't found an explanation either but the only reason I could think up at the time myself was because Ruu was procedurally generated making her a random entity, it was different than when the village was respawned because of the repeatable mission. And their memories were also wiped each time.

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Sep 28, 2024 7:58 PM

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maybe the real bugs were the friend.exe we made along the way

Sep 29, 2024 2:41 AM

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IhnalakoKaina said:

WestOnAndrewAve said:
I haven't found an explanation either but the only reason I could think up at the time myself was because Ruu was procedurally generated making her a random entity, it was different than when the village was respawned because of the repeatable mission. And their memories were also wiped each time.

If so, ruu could have been revived as ruu before meeting the cat dude, but she was made to disappear completely. Tesla somehow used their being down-up AI as an excuse for not being able to revive her, when Nikola behaved similarly before spontaneously combusting and coming back to life.

Why didn't Tesla just say that she was meant to die then? That would have also made no sense though. To say nothing about the fact that Tesla supposedly cannot interfere with players, but she stole Haga's tablets from him directly. Things like Haga not using debugging mode make sense. These other things don't.

I think it's mostly an issue of them never fully explaining everything so even if there are reasons we just don't know. Maybe the manga is better about explaining finer details because I was also left wondering why certain things were the way they were.

Sep 29, 2024 12:32 PM

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I might be wrong but I think what Haga was doing in ep 1 was part of a quest so he could keep restarting it, but what happened with Ruu's village was not, so it was permanent.

Sep 29, 2024 12:45 PM

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GrumbleDango said:
I might be wrong but I think what Haga was doing in ep 1 was part of a quest so he could keep restarting it, but what happened with Ruu's village was not, so it was permanent.

But it wasn't. In ep 8 or 9 she's brought back but without memories of amano. What is contradictory is how Tesla says that she couldn't even bring her back to begin with. Not that amano needed the debugging tablet, or that she wouldn't be the same, but that the character ruu was forever gone.

Sep 30, 2024 5:11 AM

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The show has always been a bit inconsistent about those things.

Haga wasn't surprised to see her alive again -- he said he'd done the quest several times over and the village kept respawning, including the specific people in it -- what was surprising is that she still remembered him.

But then the show made a big deal later on that NPCs could be permakilled.

Maybe the answer is that permadeath only happens when it's from explicit player action, outside of a scripted event? That could explain what happened to Ruu.

There's plenty of other inconsistencies in the show, though -- like the castle gate map loading "glitch" makes no sense if you think about it for a millisecond. And more.

Sep 30, 2024 12:09 PM

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All the characters/objects/etc. linked to the game's main quest can be endlessly revived/restored just by restarting the main quest via the stone tablet while all other NPCs can't be revived by normal means.
It's that simple.

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