What the hell is even happening?

Aug 2, 2024 11:31 PM

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VoidDaddy

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Get filtered lmao

Aug 2, 2024 11:44 PM

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betaweeb

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yeah, it's kind of the opposite of usual anime affair that is very heavy on explanations and exposition and instead this show kind of dispenses with the idea of exposition entirely, or at least any coherent version of it, all the while it introduces more and more fantastical elements and worldbuilding, it's pretty strange, but kind of interesting maybe?

it is pretentious though for sure.

Aug 3, 2024 12:15 AM

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Animaticide

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Here's my interpretation of what might be transpiring so far: this world works out like a play. Individuals are given roles that define their identities and purpose, and deviating from them means disturbing god's will of how the play should unfold. Hence, why "the girl of reason," who is obviously someone from outside the play, is being nudged by so many characters and forces within the story; they want to intentionally disrupt the holy order of the world, which they can't do themselves because of reasons.

Some rules of this world include: Swords are sorta like living beings that have to be leveled up by cutting things, treating war like a symphony and armies like orchestras, being afflicted with a curse as you are conscripted into your role by the treegodking thing, being conscripted into either a good or an evil role depending on god-knows-what, words having particular power when engraved into items and those can be altered if additional words of symbols are haphazardly written on them, and um, that's all I've got.

To me, it seems like there's a primary magic system that supercedes everything, and it is based on words and their meaning: Titles, nicknames, professions, curses, engraved spells, and hierarchies all have power over whatever or whoever they are assigned to.

I think it has a severe pacing problem. I have absolutely no issue with doing without exposition and just watching the characters LIVE in their world naturally. Understanding a world by inference is actually much more gratifying than having characters flat-out explaining everything to the viewers. But the amount of new things getting shoved on us per episode and the speed at which we move from one beat to the next is bonkers. Why are we holding hands with a character we just met? Why are particular swords so important? Above all, what I find most contradictory is that in order to be granted the title of nomad, you have to get the treekingod's permission?

Aug 3, 2024 2:06 AM

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Stanleyliam1990

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No clue what's going on haha. Glad I'm not the only one who is getting more confused after every new episode lmao

Aug 3, 2024 2:50 AM

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FrozenNova

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Because it’s enjoyable working out how things work for yourself.

Also I really don’t think anything that we’ve been shown is necessarily that confusing, or hard to follow.

Sure there are plenty of things where we don’t know exactly why they work the way they do, like why and how are swords grown? Why do nomads have a curse?, and so on. But it doesn’t feel to me like you really need those answers to follow the plot. In one episode we see that there are kind of flower bud puppies, pops, and raven blossoms, raven like plants that take news of deaths to relatives, but I don’t need to know why their world contains such things, just that it does.

It’s all just details about how the world Belle lives in works, things that emphasises the difference between that world and ours. Probably the details about swords and nomads and curses will be more relevant than the pops or raven blossoms to the story, given what we’ve seen so far, but I’d expect to be shown how these are relevant as the show continues.

Aug 4, 2024 7:42 AM

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Tacsk0

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This anime performing so poorly, 6.73 as of now, isn't just a disgrace onto itself but also drags down SukaSuka (since WorldEnd franchise is heavily influenced by Bye Bye Earth LN, which predates it by more than a decade.) Even though SukaSuka anime also became a trainwreck, Chtolly's memory is too precious to be soiled by this BBE...

Aug 4, 2024 5:07 PM

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CesarMagnan

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Yeah I was already confused with the whole furry, now with the musical performance and scripts I'm even more confused.

Aug 5, 2024 3:08 AM

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Ambeon

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idk cute girl who is unique in the
world with a big sword im an easy guy to please

Aug 6, 2024 9:06 AM

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koruo

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I feel it could be partly due to the translation. Some of the sentences might as well be gibberish.

"And this god will try many a ploy to keep reason at bay, so fiercely that it may nip reason in the bud."

For god's sake...

Aug 7, 2024 11:14 PM

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Reply to Tacsk0

This anime performing so poorly, 6.73 as of now, isn't just a disgrace onto itself but also drags down SukaSuka (since WorldEnd franchise is heavily influenced by Bye Bye Earth LN, which predates it by more than a decade.) Even though SukaSuka anime also became a trainwreck, Chtolly's memory is too precious to be soiled by this BBE...

@Tacsk0 6.73 isn't that poor. That's pretty average.

Aug 9, 2024 4:41 PM

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Luxeraph

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I don't know, but the whole unique world compared to pretty much all the other fantasy/isekai anime in recent years that just use D&D or dragon quest is scratching an itch I didn't know I had, heck back on episode one I went "this doesn't feel like modern japanese fantasy, feels either '90s, earlier or is western" and lo and behold I was right.

Aug 9, 2024 11:29 PM

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davidyodo24

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LMAO i am not the only one.

Aug 11, 2024 5:26 AM

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Xupito

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No friggin' idea. Beats me lol

That said, I like this anime. But I understand the complaints.

Aug 11, 2024 11:40 AM

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northern_freeze

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First time posting on this whole site. Yeah I'm confused as well. Yes, over-exposition sucks but I feel that I have seen other anime do a better job while avoiding over-exposition. Not a bad show, really great concept but man am I lost. But eh, for all I know I'm slightly stoopid and too lazy to think critically *shrug*.

Aug 11, 2024 4:01 PM

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smoothw

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Reply to northern_freeze

First time posting on this whole site. Yeah I'm confused as well. Yes, over-exposition sucks but I feel that I have seen other anime do a better job while avoiding over-exposition. Not a bad show, really great concept but man am I lost. But eh, for all I know I'm slightly stoopid and too lazy to think critically *shrug*.

@northern_freeze it's definitely not you, I've seen plenty of dense anime and read sci fi tales that intentionally throw you in the deep end without explaining anything at first, and this is not really a satisfying at all-just feels like a poor adaptation (or the original work is dense and not that great either, , wasn't especially impressed with the translation of the author's Mardock Scramble).

Aug 11, 2024 4:50 PM

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Reply to Tacsk0

This anime performing so poorly, 6.73 as of now, isn't just a disgrace onto itself but also drags down SukaSuka (since WorldEnd franchise is heavily influenced by Bye Bye Earth LN, which predates it by more than a decade.) Even though SukaSuka anime also became a trainwreck, Chtolly's memory is too precious to be soiled by this BBE...

@Tacsk0 Don't bring back my heartache, please. World's End broke it into little pieces & trampled on them. I hope this one doesn't do the same.

Aug 15, 2024 4:23 AM

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Protoz

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Dunno, i cant be bothered by confusing shows like this, just dropped it to make time for many other titles piling up in my watchlist

Sep 4, 2024 7:45 PM

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Reply to CesarMagnan

Yeah I was already confused with the whole furry, now with the musical performance and scripts I'm even more confused.

@CesarMagnan the terms themselves are easy to understand but the reasoning seems to fall behind, I'm not confused but i just straight-up don't understand why...

Sep 4, 2024 7:54 PM

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Reply to FrozenNova

Because it’s enjoyable working out how things work for yourself.

Also I really don’t think anything that we’ve been shown is necessarily that confusing, or hard to follow.

Sure there are plenty of things where we don’t know exactly why they work the way they do, like why and how are swords grown? Why do nomads have a curse?, and so on. But it doesn’t feel to me like you really need those answers to follow the plot. In one episode we see that there are kind of flower bud puppies, pops, and raven blossoms, raven like plants that take news of deaths to relatives, but I don’t need to know why their world contains such things, just that it does.

It’s all just details about how the world Belle lives in works, things that emphasises the difference between that world and ours. Probably the details about swords and nomads and curses will be more relevant than the pops or raven blossoms to the story, given what we’ve seen so far, but I’d expect to be shown how these are relevant as the show continues.

@FrozenNova working out stuff yourself and just blindly guessing aren't the same thing though, latest episodes are like a car crash to me, I'm looking for comments that explain stuff from source material but I've only found comments from the followers of the OC complaining that it's a bad adaptation... I guess it's gonna stay as a not well-explained half-assed story for me...

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