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May 18, 2024 4:16 PM
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As the title of the topic say, in this thread i will (try at least) make a cid analysis.
and to clarify, what i think about cid character is simply my own takes about it. and not something i consider a objective fact.

Analysis:
Cid kagenou escapism & Disconnection from reality.

Cid is a escapist. but not necessarily due to some trauma or the like. but as his dialogue in episode 1 show, it's him simply not growing from childish dreams.
to Further explain cid escapism. i would like to use this scene.









in here it show cid as a child watching screens. the dialogue at the moment talk about cid not remembering when this dream of his, started. implying that this moment was where it started. as a child. then we get a look on what's on the screens. and we see scenes of cid himself, but as shadow. that child is cid inner and true self, a childish self that didn't grow from such dreams. which lead me to talk about his disconnection from reality. Cid see all the various identities he take as mare videogame/show characters he play/watch. something that highlighted by child cid watching scenes of himself as shadow. all the identities he took in the series even his 'true' identity as cid kagenou or his past life identity as minoru kagenou. are such characters infront of cid eyes.
because he is disconnected from all this identities he has trouble forming human relationship and having regular emotions. but as shown it's not impossible for him. multiple moments in the series has him caring for people or feeling such emotions. one of my favourites moments of such is again from the sequence in episode 1.







him feeling sentimental from others abandoning their childish dreams, could be equated to having your friends grow up from a game you like while you still keep playing it. it's a small irritating and bitter feeling. for me that moment made cid character feel incredibly real.

Cid new life.

cid in his new life he gave up on his dream of (truly) being the eminence in shadow. at first glance what I'm saying might not make sense cause isn't he living his ideal eminence life? if you would think that i will ask you to remember cid pov about what's happening. in his perspective there isn't truly a cult, there isn't any mind games nor does he have a truly loyal organisation following him. it's all a facade, a game he is playing. yet he is sastified with that. the reason for that being is in his new life he has alpha and crew to play this 'game' with him.

in episode 2.
alpha and crew leave him.



for him it's a similarity to what happened in his past life. that being the moment i showed earlier of how the people around him grew up from their dreams. the difference being that alpha and crew still were ready to 'play' with him. that made a huge impact on him. it's made him able to connect with people better by feeling less disconnected from reality. unlike his previous life where he was alone in that 'game'.


if you read all this yapping. then firstly, thank you for spending your time on this. and secondly, i would like you to put out your respective opinions of agreement and disagreement and your own takes about cid character.
CielordMay 18, 2024 10:32 PM
May 18, 2024 4:31 PM
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it's a reality feelings
May 18, 2024 5:18 PM
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it's a reality feelings
@ExternalWorld "reality feelings"?
May 18, 2024 5:21 PM
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I always say he have an actual mental issue.
A skizo chuuni kinda issue.a
May 18, 2024 6:49 PM
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are we eating good?
May 18, 2024 7:17 PM
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are we eating good?
@Gojiraaa meaning?
May 18, 2024 7:34 PM
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I always say he have an actual mental issue.
A skizo chuuni kinda issue.a
@ilusatus this is good anime, need 8 + rating
May 18, 2024 9:37 PM
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I don’t really pay attention to Cid. He is just a stupid chunni that wants to look cool.

Waiting for Volume 7. :/
May 18, 2024 9:50 PM
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Cielord said:
As the title of the topic say, in this thread i will (try at least) make a cid analysis.
and to clarify, what i think about cid character is simply my own takes about it. and not something i consider a objective fact.

Analysis:
Cid kageno escapism & Disconnection from reality.

Cid is a escapist. but not necessarily due to some trauma or the like. but as his dialogue in episode 1 show, it's him simply not growing from childish dreams.
to Further explain cid escapism. i would like to use this scene.









in here it show cid as a child watching screens. the dialogue at the moment talk about cid not remembering when this dream of his, started. implying that this moment was where it started. as a child. then we get a look on what's on the screens. and we see scenes of cid himself, but as shadow. that child is cid inner and true self, a childish self that didn't grow from such dreams. which lead me to talk about his disconnection from reality. Cid see all the various identities he take as mare videogame/show characters he play/watch. something that highlighted by child cid watching scenes of himself as shadow. all the identities he took in the series even his 'true' identity as cid kagenou or his past life identity as minoru kagenou. are such characters infront of cid eyes.
because he is disconnected from all this identities he has trouble forming human relationship and having regular emotions. but as shown it's not impossible for him. multiple moments in the series has him caring for people or feeling such emotions. one of my favourites moments of such is again from the sequence in episode 1.







him feeling sentimental from others abandoning their childish dreams, could be equated to having your friends grow up from a game you like while you still keep playing it. it's a small irritating and bitter feeling. for me that moment made cid character feel incredibly real.

Cid new life.

cid in his new life he gave up on his dream of (truly) being the eminence in shadow. at first glance what I'm saying might not make sense cause isn't he living his ideal eminence life? if you would think that i will ask you to remember cid pov about what's happening. in his perspective there isn't truly a cult, there isn't any mind games nor does he have a truly loyal organisation follow him. it's all a facade, a game he is playing. yet he is sastified with that. the reason for that being is in his new life he has alpha and crew to play this 'game' with him. in episode 2.
alpha and crew leave him.



for him it's a similarity to what happened in his past life. that being the moment i showed earlier of how the people around him grew up from their dreams. the difference being that alpha and crew still were ready to 'play' with him. that made a huge impact on him. it's made him able to connect with people better by feeling less disconnected from reality. unlike his previous life where he was alone in that 'game'.


if you read all this yapping. then firstly, thank you for spending your time on this. and secondly, i would like you to put out your respective opinions of agreement and disagreement and your own takes about cid character.

I guess people do understand him.
May 18, 2024 11:24 PM
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I don’t really pay attention to Cid. He is just a stupid chunni that wants to look cool.

Waiting for Volume 7. :/
@NewestPersonHere this is good anime, need 8 rating
May 20, 2024 9:58 AM
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One part I have to disagree with is that he gave up being an eminence in shadow. Even in the Light Novel, in Volume 6, he still pursues the dream of becoming it. That's why, with magic, he increased his lifespan to 600 years and still calls that short for him to achieve his true goals. And repeatedly states that no one understands his dreams. Cid is still the same, his view of the world is just like fiction. and Looks everyone just as characters playing a role of a video game.
May 20, 2024 5:07 PM

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One part I have to disagree with is that he gave up being an eminence in shadow. Even in the Light Novel, in Volume 6, he still pursues the dream of becoming it. That's why, with magic, he increased his lifespan to 600 years and still calls that short for him to achieve his true goals. And repeatedly states that no one understands his dreams. Cid is still the same, his view of the world is just like fiction. and Looks everyone just as characters playing a role of a video game.
@Izayoi-kun123 i only caught up to volume 4 of the light novel. so please no spoilers.
but let me get it right, he still isnt fully sastified with his current life?
May 20, 2024 7:48 PM
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Cielord said:
@Izayoi-kun123 i only caught up to volume 4 of the light novel. so please no spoilers.
but let me get it right, he still isnt fully sastified with his current life?

what I said was from v5. And yeah he is far from being satisfied. As he said even 600 years is too short for him.
May 20, 2024 9:25 PM

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Cielord said:
@Izayoi-kun123 i only caught up to volume 4 of the light novel. so please no spoilers.
but let me get it right, he still isnt fully sastified with his current life?

what I said was from v5. And yeah he is far from being satisfied. As he said even 600 years is too short for him.
@Izayoi-kun123 i see, i still don't understand how that mean he isn't sastified. but i'll take your word for it.
May 20, 2024 9:27 PM
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Cielord said:
@Izayoi-kun123 i see, i still don't understand how that mean he isn't sastified. but i'll take your word for it.

Basically it means that he still has many goals but couldn't achieve them because it will take more than 600 years to achieve and he is dissatisfied with that.
May 20, 2024 11:49 PM

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Cielord said:
@Izayoi-kun123 i see, i still don't understand how that mean he isn't sastified. but i'll take your word for it.

Basically it means that he still has many goals but couldn't achieve them because it will take more than 600 years to achieve and he is dissatisfied with that.
@Izayoi-kun123 i guess i should explain what i means by cid being sastified with his current eminence life.

i ment that he is sastified/fine with him not truly being a eminence, in his pov he simply beat bandits and terrorists here and there.
he isn't in some exhilerating mind games against some enemy secret organization, or manipulate everything from the shadows.

i think what you're talking about, is that due to cid always thinking of new scenarios, he could never be sastified.
May 20, 2024 11:55 PM
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Cielord said:
@Izayoi-kun123 i guess i should explain what i means by cid being sastified with his current eminence life.

i ment that he is sastified/fine with him not truly being a eminence, in his pov he simply beat bandits and terrorists here and there.
he isn't in some exhilerating mind games against some enemy secret organization, or manipulate everything from the shadows.

i think what you're talking about, is that due to cid always thinking of new scenarios, he could never be sastified.

If I say anything more than what I said it will be a spoiler, so if you want to know then read v5 and V6, you will know what I mean then. Cid hasn't given upon becoming the eminence in shadow.
May 21, 2024 1:32 AM

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Cielord said:
@Izayoi-kun123 i guess i should explain what i means by cid being sastified with his current eminence life.

i ment that he is sastified/fine with him not truly being a eminence, in his pov he simply beat bandits and terrorists here and there.
he isn't in some exhilerating mind games against some enemy secret organization, or manipulate everything from the shadows.

i think what you're talking about, is that due to cid always thinking of new scenarios, he could never be sastified.

If I say anything more than what I said it will be a spoiler, so if you want to know then read v5 and V6, you will know what I mean then. Cid hasn't given upon becoming the eminence in shadow.
@Izayoi-kun123 i guess i will take your word for it. as i said earlier.

on off topic. where did you read vol 5 and 6? online? if yes can you send me the link.
May 21, 2024 1:53 AM
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Cielord said:
@Izayoi-kun123 i guess i will take your word for it. as i said earlier.

on off topic. where did you read vol 5 and 6? online? if yes can you send me the link.

Cid just hasn't reached the peak of eminence in shadow yet, as he claimed.

You can download it from my drive. Remember these are fan translations.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1x61s49BAgilbjOnV3U6e89Twkdsm6h5K

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