That totally ruined the quality of episode 3

LostSpectre said:
I mean, putting aside what was cut, does this really even work in the slightest as a novel? Like, I can understand why the FMC would behave how she does towards the MC if he practically stalked her every day of HS, but all the viewer sees is her acting jealous and bitchy, and thus she's naturally going to be unlikable, even if she rightfully has conflicting feelings about the MC suddenly ignoring her out of nowhere. Everyone around them understood that the two of them weren't really on bad terms, but the FMC got into a pattern of constantly telling him off, not exactly realizing that she did enjoy their interactions. This sort of story could potentially work in the hands of a skilled writer, but otherwise it's just going to end up being a complete mess. I pretty much had no hope for this show after one episode, and that hasn't changed any.

MaouHero said:
They cut the scene where Wataru helps in the student council, and there he tells that he gave up on Aika and that his sister was right about him.

MaouHero said:
It also cut the visit to Aika's house completely, which is why Aika is even more confused and is going to be very important in the next episode.

MaouHero said:
They also cut the scene where Wataru, Aika and Ashida go to a restaurant after their conversation with Kaede.
It's amazing that even cutting all Aika's POVs (4 chapters), they still had to cut so much.

MaouHero said:
Well, if the issue of Kaede and Natsukawa left you confused, know that's why.

LostSpectre said:
I mean, putting aside what was cut, does this really even work in the slightest as a novel? Like, I can understand why the FMC would behave how she does towards the MC if he practically stalked her every day of HS, but all the viewer sees is her acting jealous and bitchy, and thus she's naturally going to be unlikable, even if she rightfully has conflicting feelings about the MC suddenly ignoring her out of nowhere. Everyone around them understood that the two of them weren't really on bad terms, but the FMC got into a pattern of constantly telling him off, not exactly realizing that she did enjoy their interactions. This sort of story could potentially work in the hands of a skilled writer, but otherwise it's just going to end up being a complete mess. I pretty much had no hope for this show after one episode, and that hasn't changed any.

Markis86 said:

As MaouHero said, I think she will grow over time. She is learning to make friends again, coming to terms with her own confusing feelings about the main character which she was taking for granted before, and there will likely be more. MC is also learning in this process. I assume, like Kaide (MC's sister) she will understand the way she acted towards MC was negligent, too, even though he was over the top with his behavior and labeled a stalker he never mistreated her and clearly aside from it being a joke the outside parties got the gist that the two were actually on pretty good terms which is why she put up with it. At the same time, the MC basically alienated her and is recognizing his own actions and also the sort of distance he created towards Aika as well due to his behavior. Also keep in mind, she is actually a nice person and not really "bitchy" which is why the MC says he fell for her to begin with. She seems quite approachable but has a slight tsundere side and does get a bit jealous / frustrated with both MC and currently confused emotional herself. Aside from her crazy behavior dragging him off during lunch she hasn't actually mistreated him during all her moments of frustration after he stopped pursuing her, not that she was exactly verbally nice to him before this split kind of like his sister. She also felt bad and tried to invite him over but got cut off, though despite being so aware at times the MC seems to have completely missed the intent there.

LostSpectre said:
None of that really gives me confidence that the premise actually works here, but as is the case with novels, I'm sure it's much better than the anime. 

Markis86 said:


He does help in the student council which is how he met the student council president and the merry harem of hot guys working alongside his sister. He also talks about giving up an Aika and tells his sister to act normal, like usual, and that she is essentially right about him and to not be nice. Or did you just explain it badly and there is an additional scene of this happening with someone else you are referring to?


The student council president actually talks about why she is upset and that Kaede feels like it is her fault which is why he ends up on the roof talking to her after their private chat...

Markis86 said:


We see the house visit. It occurs at the end of episode 2 after the ending outro. We see several people, the little sister, Aika being quite unhappy and distracted, etc. We see in episode 3 more about the visit such as multiple characters talking about it, photos from the visit, and even Aika's best friend noticing both in a photo and her in class behavior indicate she was bothered regarding this visit and has been acting strange. In fact, we also see her try to talk to the main character and clearly frustrated by not being able to ask him visit during episode 2 which made the reason she is upset even clearer in episode 3 along with her looking off in the distance in the house photo or end of episode 2's visit when she was doing the same.

Markis86 said:

They, indeed, showed no such restaurant scene. I've not read the manga but is the scene actually important or something that could have been reasonably cut? Is it something that could show up in episode 4, perhaps, based on the timing of events coming after the later part of episode 3? Sometimes the order of stuff also gets shuffled to be reworked in anime vs manga/lightnovel and is fine or better for it such as Fuufu Ijou, Koibito Miman (More Than A Married Couple, But Not Lovers) rather superb adaptation?

MaouHero said:
In the anime, there is only one scene where he says that his relationship with her is normal, like classmates. In LN there should have been another visit to the student council, where he would talk about his relationship with Natsukawa, and that he isn't good enough for her, just like her sister and mother said. And that visibly shakes Kaede and makes her avoid him.

MaouHero said:
About the visit. There's the part where Sasaki offers to go and Natsukawa is really distressed about letting a guy come to her house. During the visit she is very happy with everything, but something about Sasaki and her sister makes her uneasy (I won't say what, the anime should explain a little later).

MaouHero said:
Something very important happens at this meeting. That if it doesn't happen in the restaurant, it has to happen in another way.


Of course, I'm only talking about episode 3. But cut other things. Like for example the scene where wataru meets the student council. It happens when he is going to school with his sister. And in this part it is clear that his sister was already worried about his change and it shows a lot of the personality of the student council guys. And that they are all in love with her lol

I don't think this scene is necessary. Sure, it would have been nice but just padding. They express this sentiment when he is talking to the student council president in the room privately during episode 3 that Kaede learns he stopped pursuing her and felt it was her fault. She is clearly shaken up about it on the roof and the student council president sharply comments about this is the only time he has ever heard her whine about something so it clearly bothered her a great deal. Plus we understood why she was avoiding him then from the prior incident about not seeing her for several days and not needing his help further in student council. Overall, they completely conveyed all of this very sufficiently so I don't see the issues personally.

Markis86 said:

I see. That restaurant scene doesn't sound critical and while its nice it could be shuffled to a different part in the anime, or even episode 4 potentially. It could also be shown in another situation. I don't think too much is loss over something like that. Same for the student council bit you mention. He already meets them when she makes him come help that one day and the anime is extremely clear about Kaede's situation.
Honestly, so far from what is said here I don't see any issues at all. Granted, it is only episode 3 so we'll see.

MaouHero said:



I disagree. And most people's comments agree that it was weird. Part of the information is present, yes, but the way it is presented matters a lot. Firstly, the anime didn't show much of their relationship and apart from the rooftop scene, it doesn't even show much how shaken she was.

MaouHero said:

Specifically Sasaki. She was uncomfortable letting him go, but she's not good at communicating that. And she doesn't know how she feels about Wataru going. All of this is built gradually, in the anime they'll just put everything in at the last minute.

MaouHero said:

The whole building of relationships is being cut. It all seems a lot more superficial, to say the least. We don't know anything about the student council staff, other than their appearance.The whole building of relationships is being cut. It all seems a lot more superficial, to say the least. We don't know anything about the student council members, other than their appearance.

In short, it's basically like reading an LN summary on the internet. You can know some key points and their motivations, but there is no depth or emotion.

Markis86 said:
I'm not sure what "comments" where you watched it you are referring to but thi is probably because you guys weren't paying attention and I haven't seen such comments on myanimelist about it. I'm not sure how you guys missed a huge chunk of episode 3 being dedicated to this very issue about Kaede and it repeated the issue multiple times over to the point the horse was dead so I don't think beating the horse and all 9 reincarnations as a cat is necessary at this point. The president of the student council specifically talks about her unusual whining behavior and sits him down in a room to talk about it over a several minute long section. The anime also alludes to it earlier when he comments he hasn't seen her for days after he gets the text message stating student council didn't need him after all for the following day. Add in the rooftop scene and how clearly shaken she was on the rooftop and I'm not sure why you think they didn't make this clear. Honestly, I'm at a loss why you feel otherwise.

We got some hints about Sasaki but in the anime she doesn't seem to show any concern over him yet. In fact, looking online I don't see any reason why she would have taken issue with Sasaki at this point from what I just spoiled later on. I'm not going to go and find the current LN chapter for this exact spot but I kind of doubt she had any issue with Sasaki because that would mean she took issue with two different guys quite directly which seems unusual and specific, as she clearly took issue with MC due to her usual demeanor even though she didn't mean it. I'm not sure what you are saying is "last minute" because if anything I would say the series' first three episodes are very well paced and not last minute as it spreads fine details and has a genuine development that doesn't come off overly artificial or coincidentally guided compared to most other anime, and at least compared to the manga it does an impressive job of handling Aika's character without her being so awful like she is in the manga (and hopefully not in the LN, cause damn she is bad in the manga) and the story is extremely chaotic and very different in the manga. They can work these details you are complaining about in later, too, which I've already pointed out. So far you don't seem to be suggesting anything important was missed and anything that had to be presented as is now that can't be built on later.

Again, they can expand on Aika and Kei's relationship later and even in the next episode they could work that scene in. Honestly, I think your complaints are completely without merit because you're not used to watching adaptations and you are kind of a purist which anime usually can't follow totally 100% due to length. Give the anime time because a lot of this stuff does get reworked at times in adaptations. If they screw it up royally after quite a few more episodes are actually out then you go give it a negative review and complain about what they messed up, though do try to keep your complaints reasonable because I think your desire for certain details is a bit unnecessary if not confusing even like your missing entire chunks of episodes which I'm still confused on.

MaouHero said:
Well, since the first episode a lot has been cut and changed. Even though I didn't agree with several decisions, I could understand most. But in this third episode several irrational things were done. They cut the scene where Wataru helps in the student council, and there he tells that he gave up on Aika and that his sister was right about him. This is what caused Kaede to become depressed in episode 3. It also cut the visit to Aika's house completely, which is why Aika is even more confused and is going to be very important in the next episode. They also cut the scene where Wataru, Aika and Ashida go to a restaurant after their conversation with Kaede.
It's amazing that even cutting all Aika's POVs (4 chapters), they still had to cut so much.

Well, if the issue of Kaede and Natsukawa left you confused, know that's why.

MaouHero said:

Well, answering one point at a time takes work, so I'll answer everything at once.
Instead of focusing on episode 3, I'll focus on all 3 episodes.
Simply all of Wataru's monologues are cut. His mind is much more shaken than it appears in the anime and he begins to reflect on various actions he has taken, such as his hair, body, clothes, etc.

The first episode should have shown how Wataru drools over aizawa because she's pretty, but at the same time due to his quick wit and low self-esteem, he knows she's trying to use him. When Ashida confronts Aizawa about her boyfriend and she runs off, Wataru doesn't chase after her in LN, he thinks she's pretty but not enough to bother chasing after her. This is a very important aspect of his personality. Another point is his plan, he is indirectly trying to show how cool Aika is, including lying to Aizawa, so everything was a plan. In the anime he just runs and tries to help her, so they make up.

The second episode should have the scene where he finds inatomi(loli-senpai) alone and tries to help, but she refuses, which makes him very sad. There should be more interactions between Wataru and Aika, like one where Wataru is slightly irritated with Aika and this makes the situation between them quite awkward. Then there is the scene where he goes to school with his sister, here it shows a lot of their relationship and it shows that his sister is having a problem, on the way they meet Aika and go together, then they meet the student council. Every student council member is very jealous towards Kaede and they are worried because she started to worry about boys (Wataru, but they didn't know it was her brother). Later on the first visit of the student council has a conversation with Kai-senpai about Kaede and Wataru. Then he has the conversation with Rin about Inatomi-senpai. At this point, as in several others, the anime is softer. In LN Wataru is much more incisive in being against Inatomi-senpai's attitude, which even makes Rin a little irritated.

About the third episode: Natsukawa is trying to talk to Wataru about something, but instead she just hurts him, which causes Kei to get angry and have a private conversation with her. Then there is the scene of Yamazaki taking Wataru to lunch with Koga (girl with the dirty mouth), in this part the anime also softens things a lot, Wataru in his monologues harshly criticizes the style of these types of girls, he says very heavy things. In the conversation with his sister, they once again soften, he shouts “Will you give it a rest already, you damn bitch.” for her, but that was cut. And then he goes to a restaurant with Aika and Ashida, due to the previous incident, things are already quite tense between Aika and Ashida, so they argue a lot, but Aika manages to say what she wants to Wataru.

About Sasaki. Aika is uncomfortable because she doesn't want a boy to come to her house.

Obviously there's more stuff, and there's a lot more detail, but this is a summary of some of the most important parts cut or changed.

King_Javon said:
LN readers are always crying about sum