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Jun 15, 2023 10:39 AM
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I just finished the movie and and honestly it is one of the best anime I have watched. However there are quite a lot of things that I couldnt understand completely, since the movie didnt adapt all the content from the original VN. So these are the ones that concern me most:


1. Is Illya actually older than Shirou? I dont remember this was said in any scenes. She just called Shirou "onii-chan" during the whole series and suddenly in the end she said that it was her responsibility as an older sister to protect her younger brother. Ngl I was really shocked at that moment.

2. How did Kirei survive from Assasin's Noble Phantasm Zabaniya? Then when I thought he died when Sakura crushed his heart, at the end of the movie he just stood there punching with Shirou like nothing. 

3. I have heard somewhere that Archer is actually Emiya Shirou, I dont understand about this and I need explaination.


Looking forward to your answer! I have only watched Fate Stay Night and Fate Zero so forgive me if the questions are dumb. Guess I will have to read the VN so that I could understand better :D  
Jun 15, 2023 11:04 AM
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1. She is 18 years old while Shirou is 17 IIRC. She calls him onii-chan because of her loli character archetype....she just likes calling him that.

2. Well Kirei doesn't actually have a real heart (destroyed in the 4th war), he's being kept alive by the corrupt piece of the grail. 

3. I see in your list that you watched UBW....you should know this right?

You should definitely read the VN if you are interested enough in this series!
Jun 15, 2023 11:08 AM
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Advide said:
1. She is 18 years old while Shirou is 17 IIRC. She calls him onii-chan because of her loli character archetype....she just likes calling him that.

2. Well Kirei doesn't actually have a real heart (destroyed in the 4th war), he's being kept alive by the corrupt piece of the grail. 

3. I see in your list that you watched UBW....you should know this right?

You should definitely read the VN if you are interested enough in this series!
Thank you so much! I actually didnt watch UBW carefully and skipped some of the dialogues so yeah 😅
Jun 15, 2023 11:27 AM
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__Hanabi__ said:
I dont remember this was said in any scenes. She just called Shirou "onii-chan" during the whole series and suddenly in the end she said that it was her responsibility as an older sister to protect her younger brother.


A lot of her dialogues got cut in the Movies adaptation.
But yes , she's older , and she's also an Homunculi , so she doesn't age the same.

__Hanabi__ said:
I actually didnt watch UBW carefully and skipped some of the dialogues so yeah 😅


It's not just some dialogues that you skipped then...
More than 75% of the dialogues of the 2nd Season is about that , and it's the whole point of the Route.
"Genius lives only one storey above madness."
– Arthur Schopenhauer.

"Stupidity is a talent for misconception."
– Edgar Allan Poe.

"I'm tired... and hungry."
– Alexioos95.
Jun 15, 2023 8:04 PM
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haha guess I need to give UBW a rewatch. It was the first thing I watch about Fate and I didnt really interested in the series initially so I didnt watch seriously 💀. 
Jun 16, 2023 4:14 AM
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__Hanabi__ said:
I just finished the movie and and honestly it is one of the best anime I have watched. However there are quite a lot of things that I couldnt understand completely, since the movie didnt adapt all the content from the original VN. So these are the ones that concern me most:


1. Is Illya actually older than Shirou? I dont remember this was said in any scenes. She just called Shirou "onii-chan" during the whole series and suddenly in the end she said that it was her responsibility as an older sister to protect her younger brother. Ngl I was really shocked at that moment.

2. How did Kirei survive from Assasin's Noble Phantasm Zabaniya? Then when I thought he died when Sakura crushed his heart, at the end of the movie he just stood there punching with Shirou like nothing. 

3. I have heard somewhere that Archer is actually Emiya Shirou, I dont understand about this and I need explaination.


Looking forward to your answer! I have only watched Fate Stay Night and Fate Zero so forgive me if the questions are dumb. Guess I will have to read the VN so that I could understand better :D  

Unfortunately the movies, especially the third one does a really bad job of explaining the ending. I had to read the visual novel to fully understand what happens in the end.
Jun 16, 2023 5:15 AM
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zckfox said:
__Hanabi__ said:
I just finished the movie and and honestly it is one of the best anime I have watched. However there are quite a lot of things that I couldnt understand completely, since the movie didnt adapt all the content from the original VN. So these are the ones that concern me most:


1. Is Illya actually older than Shirou? I dont remember this was said in any scenes. She just called Shirou "onii-chan" during the whole series and suddenly in the end she said that it was her responsibility as an older sister to protect her younger brother. Ngl I was really shocked at that moment.

2. How did Kirei survive from Assasin's Noble Phantasm Zabaniya? Then when I thought he died when Sakura crushed his heart, at the end of the movie he just stood there punching with Shirou like nothing. 

3. I have heard somewhere that Archer is actually Emiya Shirou, I dont understand about this and I need explaination.


Looking forward to your answer! I have only watched Fate Stay Night and Fate Zero so forgive me if the questions are dumb. Guess I will have to read the VN so that I could understand better :D  

Unfortunately the movies, especially the third one does a really bad job of explaining the ending. I had to read the visual novel to fully understand what happens in the end.

the whole trilogy itself raises more questions than answers lol
Jun 16, 2023 10:21 AM
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Advide said:
1. She is 18 years old while Shirou is 17 IIRC. She calls him onii-chan because of her loli character archetype....she just likes calling him that.

2. Well Kirei doesn't actually have a real heart (destroyed in the 4th war), he's being kept alive by the corrupt piece of the grail. 

3. I see in your list that you watched UBW....you should know this right?

You should definitely read the VN if you are interested enough in this series!

is VN is like LN or manga? i mean does they have pictures to read or just words/sentences
Jun 16, 2023 10:40 AM
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Mr_Nobodie said:
Advide said:
1. She is 18 years old while Shirou is 17 IIRC. She calls him onii-chan because of her loli character archetype....she just likes calling him that.

2. Well Kirei doesn't actually have a real heart (destroyed in the 4th war), he's being kept alive by the corrupt piece of the grail. 

3. I see in your list that you watched UBW....you should know this right?

You should definitely read the VN if you are interested enough in this series!

is VN is like LN or manga? i mean does they have pictures to read or just words/sentences
Both? VN stands for visual novel so they have pictures (sometimes limited animation) like manga (but colored) and a lot of dialogue like LN's. They are basically interactive novels. Youtube video for a more detailed explanation:

Jun 16, 2023 11:16 AM
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__Hanabi__ said:
I just finished the movie and and honestly it is one of the best anime I have watched. However there are quite a lot of things that I couldnt understand completely, since the movie didnt adapt all the content from the original VN. So these are the ones that concern me most:


1. Is Illya actually older than Shirou? I dont remember this was said in any scenes. She just called Shirou "onii-chan" during the whole series and suddenly in the end she said that it was her responsibility as an older sister to protect her younger brother. Ngl I was really shocked at that moment.

2. How did Kirei survive from Assasin's Noble Phantasm Zabaniya? Then when I thought he died when Sakura crushed his heart, at the end of the movie he just stood there punching with Shirou like nothing. 

3. I have heard somewhere that Archer is actually Emiya Shirou, I dont understand about this and I need explaination.


Looking forward to your answer! I have only watched Fate Stay Night and Fate Zero so forgive me if the questions are dumb. Guess I will have to read the VN so that I could understand better :D  

1. yes she's elder , and I like her, after watching UBW i like her even more

2. I was shocked too bro. what the hell was happening I didn't get it

3. well yeah Archer's shirou himself. And it's one of the biggest plot twist in this UBW series and to tell you the truth it would have been more exciting if you didn't knew about this.
Jun 17, 2023 10:43 PM
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Animo_san said:
__Hanabi__ said:
I just finished the movie and and honestly it is one of the best anime I have watched. However there are quite a lot of things that I couldnt understand completely, since the movie didnt adapt all the content from the original VN. So these are the ones that concern me most:


1. Is Illya actually older than Shirou? I dont remember this was said in any scenes. She just called Shirou "onii-chan" during the whole series and suddenly in the end she said that it was her responsibility as an older sister to protect her younger brother. Ngl I was really shocked at that moment.

2. How did Kirei survive from Assasin's Noble Phantasm Zabaniya? Then when I thought he died when Sakura crushed his heart, at the end of the movie he just stood there punching with Shirou like nothing. 

3. I have heard somewhere that Archer is actually Emiya Shirou, I dont understand about this and I need explaination.


Looking forward to your answer! I have only watched Fate Stay Night and Fate Zero so forgive me if the questions are dumb. Guess I will have to read the VN so that I could understand better :D  

1. yes she's elder , and I like her, after watching UBW i like her even more

2. I was shocked too bro. what the hell was happening I didn't get it

3. well yeah Archer's shirou himself. And it's one of the biggest plot twist in this UBW series and to tell you the truth it would have been more exciting if you didn't knew about this.

By the end of Fate/Zero you can see kirei literally mentioning how he doesn't have a heart beat remember?

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