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Apr 5, 2022 2:44 PM

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The lost ones get killed by people called executioners for being summoned by the nobles(The logic makes no sense), and that happens to be a lost one, he was kicked out and unwanted cos he wasn’t the Pure concept(just call it Magic power) the nobles were looking for, He met Menou who is an executioner, she tricked him, then killed him, that’s just it…

Apr 5, 2022 3:34 PM

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Replette

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Bikuta-san said:
The lost ones get killed by people called executioners for being summoned by the nobles(The logic makes no sense), and that happens to be a lost one, he was kicked out and unwanted cos he wasn’t the Pure concept(just call it Magic power) the nobles were looking for, He met Menou who is an executioner, she tricked him, then killed him, that’s just it…

"he wasn't pure concept" "summoned by nobles and logic makes no sense".

Bruh first try to understand it yourself before explaining it to others.

Apr 5, 2022 3:47 PM

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Idk what's there to be confused about unless you watched it without the subtitles.

Basically lost ones are the guys who get isekaied from Japan,it is a taboo to summoned otherworlders due to their pure concept being too strong.

The basic power system is called "power of guidance" its basically magic and exists everywhere but when otherworlders use too much of their powers it runs out of control (you will learn later down the episodes why it happens) and cause disaster like major 4 disaster in their world caused by otherworlders.

That's where these executioner come, their job is to execute these otherworlders before they can fully understand how this world works and get a good grasp on power.

As for why the nobels are summoning otherworlders is to overthrow the cruch using otherworlders power coz despite being the king of a country they are under the rule of church.

The reason why menou the mc acts all friendly because if she attacked him right when they met, he could have gone berserk and caused casualties, 2nd he would have panicked and instinctively managed to use his power, 3rd was when he mentioned that he had no power coz that put her in a tight spot, her job is to execute otherworlders with pure concept so if a person doesn't have them then they are just normal person with no harm to their world summoned without consent,
4) they have to keep the their job as an executioner a secret.

Apr 5, 2022 4:04 PM

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honestly, i just taugh that menou was trying to judged if the dude was gonna turn "bad" or not. and she only try to kill him after learning that he was gonna use his power to get "revenge".

Apr 5, 2022 4:35 PM

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Replette said:
Idk what's there to be confused about unless you watched it without the subtitles.

Basically lost ones are the guys who get isekaied from Japan,it is a taboo to summoned otherworlders due to their pure concept being too strong.

The basic power system is called "power of guidance" its basically magic and exists everywhere but when otherworlders use too much of their powers it runs out of control (you will learn later down the episodes why it happens) and cause disaster like major 4 disaster in their world caused by otherworlders.

That's where these executioner come, their job is to execute these otherworlders before they can fully understand how this world works and get a good grasp on power.

As for why the nobels are summoning otherworlders is to overthrow the cruch using otherworlders power coz despite being the king of a country they are under the rule of church.

The reason why menou the mc acts all friendly because if she attacked him right when they met, he could have gone berserk and caused casualties, 2nd he would have panicked and instinctively managed to use his power, 3rd was when he mentioned that he had no power coz that put her in a tight spot, her job is to execute otherworlders with pure concept so if a person doesn't have them then they are just normal person with no harm to their world summoned without consent,
4) they have to keep the their job as an executioner a secret.

You only left out that the guy was summuned only to act as a bait to lure out the executioners, so if anyone wants to blame anyone for his death blame the people that summoned him in the 1st place.

My only question is: Do the Lost ones need to be always summoned by someone as it was apparent from the 1st ep. or do they also get transported randomly without anyone needed to summon them?
Because if it's only by being summoned by someone it makes me a little but confused. I understand now that royals have summoned them for their plot to overthrow the church. But unless there's was always a lot of this plotting against the church then if it's known that Lost ones bring disasters then why would anyone try to summon them in the first place? Are there any other reasons why would someone would want them summoned? Maybe i want to know a little too much.

Apr 5, 2022 4:55 PM

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WiserCupid

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Strykeryno said:

Replette said:
Idk what's there to be confused about unless you watched it without the subtitles.

Basically lost ones are the guys who get isekaied from Japan,it is a taboo to summoned otherworlders due to their pure concept being too strong.

The basic power system is called "power of guidance" its basically magic and exists everywhere but when otherworlders use too much of their powers it runs out of control (you will learn later down the episodes why it happens) and cause disaster like major 4 disaster in their world caused by otherworlders.

That's where these executioner come, their job is to execute these otherworlders before they can fully understand how this world works and get a good grasp on power.

As for why the nobels are summoning otherworlders is to overthrow the cruch using otherworlders power coz despite being the king of a country they are under the rule of church.

The reason why menou the mc acts all friendly because if she attacked him right when they met, he could have gone berserk and caused casualties, 2nd he would have panicked and instinctively managed to use his power, 3rd was when he mentioned that he had no power coz that put her in a tight spot, her job is to execute otherworlders with pure concept so if a person doesn't have them then they are just normal person with no harm to their world summoned without consent,
4) they have to keep the their job as an executioner a secret.

You only left out that the guy was summuned only to act as a bait to lure out the executioners, so if anyone wants to blame anyone for his death blame the people that summoned him in the 1st place.

My only question is: Do the Lost ones need to be always summoned by someone as it was apparent from the 1st ep. or do they also get transported randomly without anyone needed to summon them?
Because if it's only by being summoned by someone it makes me a little but confused. I understand now that royals have summoned them for their plot to overthrow the church. But unless there's was always a lot of this plotting against the church then if it's known that Lost ones bring disasters then why would anyone try to summon them in the first place? Are there any other reasons why would someone would want them summoned? Maybe i want to know a little too much.

That question is actually revealed later on in the series

Apr 5, 2022 6:50 PM

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Ceijiro said:
honestly, i just taugh that menou was trying to judged if the dude was gonna turn "bad" or not. and she only try to kill him after learning that he was gonna use his power to get "revenge".

She killed him because he had pure concept regardless of his morality, his gender... his whatsoever etc etc.

Apr 5, 2022 9:20 PM

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Replette

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Strykeryno said:

Replette said:
Idk what's there to be confused about unless you watched it without the subtitles.

Basically lost ones are the guys who get isekaied from Japan,it is a taboo to summoned otherworlders due to their pure concept being too strong.

The basic power system is called "power of guidance" its basically magic and exists everywhere but when otherworlders use too much of their powers it runs out of control (you will learn later down the episodes why it happens) and cause disaster like major 4 disaster in their world caused by otherworlders.

That's where these executioner come, their job is to execute these otherworlders before they can fully understand how this world works and get a good grasp on power.

As for why the nobels are summoning otherworlders is to overthrow the cruch using otherworlders power coz despite being the king of a country they are under the rule of church.

The reason why menou the mc acts all friendly because if she attacked him right when they met, he could have gone berserk and caused casualties, 2nd he would have panicked and instinctively managed to use his power, 3rd was when he mentioned that he had no power coz that put her in a tight spot, her job is to execute otherworlders with pure concept so if a person doesn't have them then they are just normal person with no harm to their world summoned without consent,
4) they have to keep the their job as an executioner a secret.

You only left out that the guy was summuned only to act as a bait to lure out the executioners, so if anyone wants to blame anyone for his death blame the people that summoned him in the 1st place.

My only question is: Do the Lost ones need to be always summoned by someone as it was apparent from the 1st ep. or do they also get transported randomly without anyone needed to summon them?
Because if it's only by being summoned by someone it makes me a little but confused. I understand now that royals have summoned them for their plot to overthrow the church. But unless there's was always a lot of this plotting against the church then if it's known that Lost ones bring disasters then why would anyone try to summon them in the first place? Are there any other reasons why would someone would want them summoned? Maybe i want to know a little too much.

You will know by the end of the series.
It's a topic surrounding vol 2 and judging by the spoilers in the opening,I'm pretty sure 12 episodes are going to animate 2 Volumes and vol 2 ends in a good cliffhanger as well.

Apr 6, 2022 9:14 AM

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Replette said:

Bikuta-san said:
The lost ones get killed by people called executioners for being summoned by the nobles(The logic makes no sense), and that happens to be a lost one, he was kicked out and unwanted cos he wasn’t the Pure concept(just call it Magic power) the nobles were looking for, He met Menou who is an executioner, she tricked him, then killed him, that’s just it…

"he wasn't pure concept" "summoned by nobles and logic makes no sense".

Bruh first try to understand it yourself before explaining it to others.

You seem salty…

You could explain why I was wrong, or you could just ignore my comment.

I don’t see much deviation btw what I said and what actually happened, that is, even if there is any difference at all.

Apr 6, 2022 9:20 AM

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The nobles summoned two Lost Ones, one as a decoy, as part of a scheme to overthrow the church. The lost ones have a power called a Pure Concept, which is a highly specific type of magical power as distinct from what's available to the natives. The boy had the Pure Concept of Nullification. Menou kills Lost Ones because they're extremely dangerous, but she likes to know what Pure Concept they've got before attacking them because there are Pure Concepts that make one immune to being stabbed in the head. She was hopeful that this particular guy had no Pure Concept, but he did, so she stabbed him.

There is also a flashback to Menou's motivation, in which her hometown was reduced to salt by a Lost One's Pure Concept run amok. That is a pretty ordinary outcome and is why they are killed as soon as possible.

Apr 6, 2022 2:16 PM

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Bikuta-san said:

Replette said:

"he wasn't pure concept" "summoned by nobles and logic makes no sense".

Bruh first try to understand it yourself before explaining it to others.

You seem salty…

You could explain why I was wrong, or you could just ignore my comment.

I don’t see much deviation btw what I said and what actually happened, that is, even if there is any difference at all.

I'm not salty but I agree my phrasing might have seemed rude so I apologize for that.

Your explanation seemed vague and incorrect plus you left out for why the nobles were summoning or why the executioner kill them especially for someone who made a whole thread about being confused and not grasp any of it.

I don't think my explanation is any easier to understand since I have read the LN and without including spoilers I found it hard to explain but the person above me summed it up pretty well

Jan 4, 2024 10:38 PM

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Idk what's there to be confused about unless you watched it without the subtitles.

Basically lost ones are the guys who get isekaied from Japan,it is a taboo to summoned otherworlders due to their pure concept being too strong.

The basic power system is called "power of guidance" its basically magic and exists everywhere but when otherworlders use too much of their powers it runs out of control (you will learn later down the episodes why it happens) and cause disaster like major 4 disaster in their world caused by otherworlders.

That's where these executioner come, their job is to execute these otherworlders before they can fully understand how this world works and get a good grasp on power.

As for why the nobels are summoning otherworlders is to overthrow the cruch using otherworlders power coz despite being the king of a country they are under the rule of church.

The reason why menou the mc acts all friendly because if she attacked him right when they met, he could have gone berserk and caused casualties, 2nd he would have panicked and instinctively managed to use his power, 3rd was when he mentioned that he had no power coz that put her in a tight spot, her job is to execute otherworlders with pure concept so if a person doesn't have them then they are just normal person with no harm to their world summoned without consent,
4) they have to keep the their job as an executioner a secret.

@Replette something like Mitsuki being revived to take revenge on those who summoned him, and seeking vengeance against Menou, would make the story more interesting. However, the narrative currently only explores how the executioner goes about their tasks. Mitsuki should be the main character who not only brings about the destruction of the world but also initiates a transformation, ensuring that executioners and nobles cease to exist.

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