The plot being too literal is the anime's downfall [spoilers]

deg said:
well religious people would love this since Frill is like Satan or the Devil that exploits humans dark side

saar98 said:
Throughout the anime it's been hinted that the four girls all suffer from depression and survivor's guilt, and you'd expect the theme to be, they learn how to handle loss and not feel guilty about their friends killing themselves. This is not the case because the girls who are saved do "come back" as an alternative personality, forgetting all about the main characters. Like a good review said it implies that the girls did influence their friends to kill themselves and that the survivor's guilt was justified. That's a terrible implication!


There's also the implication that teenage girls are more likely to kill themselves because of Frill somehow. Making Frill a big bad undermines all the previous episodes where we are shown suicide victims' inner demons which are all real life reasons of why girls kill themselves. It implicates that they wouldn't have committed suicide from these reasons alone, but because of a higher power.


WEP wrote itself into a corner, and lost its intended purpose and message. It's a double edge sword because the anime trying to explain the world's lore and logic so much actually makes us view it in a very literal way and raises more questions, then if the world was vague and metaphorical as it was in the beginning. If it was a metaphorical anime through and through then it would be a more complete story for our characters and actually convey a message.


Thoughts?

Orion1044 said:


As a religious person I think that religious symbolism is no excuse for a bad story. There are plenty of good and bad stories that both use religious symbolism, and in different ways. besides comparing Frill to the Devil is just a comparison, I don’t think she was intended to be a stand in for the Devil.

saar98 said:
Throughout the anime it's been hinted that the four girls all suffer from depression and survivor's guilt, and you'd expect the theme to be, they learn how to handle loss and not feel guilty about their friends killing themselves. This is not the case because the girls who are saved do "come back" as an alternative personality, forgetting all about the main characters. Like a good review said it implies that the girls did influence their friends to kill themselves and that the survivor's guilt was justified. That's a terrible implication!


There's also the implication that teenage girls are more likely to kill themselves because of Frill somehow. Making Frill a big bad undermines all the previous episodes where we are shown suicide victims' inner demons which are all real life reasons of why girls kill themselves. It implicates that they wouldn't have committed suicide from these reasons alone, but because of a higher power.


WEP wrote itself into a corner, and lost its intended purpose and message. It's a double edge sword because the anime trying to explain the world's lore and logic so much actually makes us view it in a very literal way and raises more questions, then if the world was vague and metaphorical as it was in the beginning. If it was a metaphorical anime through and through then it would be a more complete story for our characters and actually convey a message.


Thoughts?

Orion1044 said:


As a religious person I think that religious symbolism is no excuse for a bad story. There are plenty of good and bad stories that both use religious symbolism, and in different ways. besides comparing Frill to the Devil is just a comparison, I don’t think she was intended to be a stand in for the Devil.

Xx_urmomgay_xX said:
As someone who dealt with suicide, trauma and depression as teenage, girl while this show was airing I found the character of frill oddly… comforting. How I interpreted it was “no matter what happens or what you do being suicidal is never your fault.”
Let me explain, to me it was telling me that no matter how much I blame myself for how i feel, at the end of the day it was out of my control. By making frill “human” and the one who pushes you off the deep end it gave a reason for why even though lots of my friends had gone through similar things, only I was so tempted by death.
For mental health is such and unfair thing. It gave me someone, something, to blame and not just bad genes. Its hard to except that u just have genes and now have to suffer the consequences, it much easier to just say “well, at least frill wants me.” Joking about a fictional character and blaming them is much easier then joking and blaming yourself. As dark and twisted as it is, I, as a single individual, appreciated frills character.

And for the survivors guilt i could be totally wrong but on first watch I interpreted it as “no matter how hard you try things will never go back to how they were, you cant get things youve lost back, you have to learn to grown and change” again i could be totally wrong on everything this is just how i interpreted the show