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May 8, 2021 8:58 AM
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Pretty chill episode but the small windows of moments between Emilico and Kate still interest me.

Another pair to take notice is Lou and Louise's relationship. She seems to really care about her will being and in general protrayed as a very human character.
May 8, 2021 9:01 AM
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looks like they didn't remove anything this time, I was worried whole ep long

I swear, cloverworks can create tension in most unexpected ways!
also the barbi doodle in emilico's dairy was cuuute
May 8, 2021 9:46 AM
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Pretty solid episode, though nothing really important happened, I wonder when the real plot will kick in.
May 8, 2021 10:16 AM
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Pretty relaxing episode.

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May 8, 2021 10:37 AM
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Seeing a frustrated Barbie made me happy. Good ep!


“You yourself have to change first, or nothing will change for you!”
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May 8, 2021 10:45 AM
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This series is back on track again, and i’m fairly positive cloverworks should do an at least acceptable job at adapting the manga after the author cleared things up for last episode.
Now we can know for sure that Sara is at the very least abusing Mia, that scene really hurt to watch. The debut begins, and things are only gonna get more interesting from here. I couldn’t help but notice how ridiculous Edwards outfit looks animated as well, I’m surprised they even kept the same pattern as the manga
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May 8, 2021 10:47 AM
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Emilico is so adorable. Especially her expressions. There are some horrible masters like Sarah who don't care about her doll at all and then we have shadows like Kate and John who adores their dolls. I like John's character a lot. The shadows are quite diverse in terms of their personalities.

Everyone's preparing for their respective debuts. Emilico once again helping others without thinking about herself is so appreciable. Kate looking out for Emilico was so sweet of her. Every other Shadow is so stingy. Loving the dynamic of this show so far. It'll be interesting to see what happens next. Emilico is at the bottom for now.
May 8, 2021 10:48 AM
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Glad to see Ricky & Patrick mess up there. Now I wonder where Edward will be taking the shadows to.
May 8, 2021 10:50 AM
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We did it best boy John finally made an appearance that’s all I needed today.
May 8, 2021 10:51 AM
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Yep, this is the episode that things really begin that bear the concept of Shadows House.
May 8, 2021 10:56 AM

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they finally debut... good episode.
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Ohh, I finally know what the debut is, quite interesting, but very complicated for Emilico actually
The dance was quite beautiful too (≧◡≦)
I don't really know how it will be in the manga, but I found this episode very good
May 8, 2021 11:00 AM

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Really enjoying the series so far. Has a good amount of tension and mystery to it. We're slowly being exposed to the story, and as some other poster in a previous episode said, they're not showing the plot/story/etc. in one big dialog as if reading a book.
May 8, 2021 11:05 AM
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Was that a mess up @ 14:10??

I thought in the manga it was Patrick who said "Patrick's face has a marvelous personality." It even kinda sounded like Patrick's voice too. Did anyone else notice that??

(great episode! Glad that they're back on track with no alterations.)
May 8, 2021 11:34 AM

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Ok there we go, back on track. Really interesting episode that provided a lot of useful backstory and context into the shadow house. The debut is a really interesting concept. Felt bad for Mia though, seeing her get abused was hard. Edward and the others are also very suspicious. Lots of mysteries I’m waiting to get answered, that’s one thing this show does really well. Keeps you invested and wanting to come back for more.
May 8, 2021 11:51 AM

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man that sure was harsh, i hope he won't do anything bad to those shadows
May 8, 2021 12:58 PM

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What a delicious episode with tension and soot in the air.

I don't know how the ass beating would help debut, but okay.

Was interesting to see more about the Shadow masters personalities from Emilico friends.
May 8, 2021 1:25 PM
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Sara said "We haven't had our debut" Is this a mistranslation?
May 8, 2021 1:28 PM

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The Debut doesn't seem to be going well for Emilico and Kate. Hopefully they'll be able to rise up through the ranks.
May 8, 2021 1:37 PM

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Having read 3 volumes of the manga yet, it's an excellent episode! The moment Edward pushes Ricky made me laugh! 😂
May 8, 2021 2:02 PM
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I've watched it again, I think that the translator of this episode really made a mistake. When Kate said to Emilico "laugh", "laugh out loud" and "a grand laugh" The first two didn't match with the expression at all.
May 8, 2021 2:14 PM

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I was starting to think that it was the shadow who had to act like the dolls instead of the reverse.
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G1llies said:
This series is back on track again, and i’m fairly positive cloverworks should do an at least acceptable job at adapting the manga after the author cleared things up for last episode.
What was wrong with the last episode???
May 8, 2021 2:28 PM
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What a delicious episode with tension and soot in the air.

I don't know how the ass beating would help debut, but okay.

Was interesting to see more about the Shadow masters personalities from Emilico friends.


Sara and Mia have already passed the debut.

Edit: Wow so Sara said they hadn't passed the debut yet. but then so why is Mia wearing her "portrait" attire...? Turns out I was right, in manga it doesn't say that line in the anime.
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I don't get that part after the dance ended, Ricky's place got pushed down, what did he do wrong there? also why is Edward suddenly slammed the piano and got mad without any reason??
May 8, 2021 2:29 PM
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Sara said "We haven't had our debut" Is this a mistranslation?


Yes.

Funi subs are kinda trash.
May 8, 2021 2:33 PM
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KizuBlade said:
Sara said "We haven't had our debut" Is this a mistranslation?


has to be wrong. she doesn't say that in the manga.
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I've watched it again, I think that the translator of this episode really made a mistake. When Kate said to Emilico "laugh", "laugh out loud" and "a grand laugh" The first two didn't match with the expression at all.


You're right. One of the expressions was supposed to be "look dignified." Lol, they messed up multiple times in this episode. oof.
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Great episode! I loved the scene where Louise comes at Patrick and goes a rank up. He totally deserves that. But why the hell did Edward lock all the dolls in the room? And why did he randomly get mad at Ricky? Idk, guess i'll see in the next episode.

I do also hope this re-claims the faith of the Manga Readers after they removed a character but idk if it will...
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I don't get that part after the dance ended, Ricky's place got pushed down, what did he do wrong there? also why is Edward suddenly slammed the piano and got mad without any reason??
Yea right? We'll have to wait another week and see
May 8, 2021 3:33 PM

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The shadows are just as confused about the whole debut thing as the dolls...but then what the heck did Kate learn in those books all this time? lol

We saw earlier in the bath Mia had scars but it doesn't really match up with all the blunt abuse she gets so that's weird. Plus how is that supposed to help her become better I have no idea.

Pretty interesting episode overall.
May 8, 2021 3:40 PM

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The debut has begun. The ranking aspect plus the threat of death if the “dolls” underperform creates a very intriguing situation. I liked that we finally saw the relationships between the other “dolls” and shadows. It makes sense that their relationships would be a lot more disfunctional and problematic than Emilico and Kate’s relationship. Now if only Emilico will stop messing up.
May 8, 2021 4:01 PM
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I did not expect that doll to be so harsh god damn, mf slammed the mini soot figures on the surface jeez.

All in all good episode, I cannot wait to watch more :D.
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richardrvg said:
I don't get that part after the dance ended, Ricky's place got pushed down, what did he do wrong there? also why is Edward suddenly slammed the piano and got mad without any reason??

By the end of the Debut arc you will learn why he is so hostile towards all the debutantes.
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Having read 3 volumes of the manga yet, it's an excellent episode! The moment Edward pushes Ricky made me laugh! 😂



I know right 😂😂😂 Ricky's face before he got pushed really make me laugh so hard
May 8, 2021 4:39 PM
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The shadows are just as confused about the whole debut thing as the dolls...but then what the heck did Kate learn in those books all this time? lol

We saw earlier in the bath Mia had scars but it doesn't really match up with all the blunt abuse she gets so that's weird. Plus how is that supposed to help her become better I have no idea.

Pretty interesting episode overall.


Yeah, in the manga, it looked more like bruises. I think that was what was intended in the anime, but looked more like scars instead.
May 8, 2021 5:18 PM

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Shadows House best episode yet has arrived with John at the highlight. The debut starts and its tense and interesting at the same time.

This episode shows different personalities and quirks of our 5 pair cast. And Edward looks stressed this episode too.

The first part with Sarah and Mia scene is intense and shows how other shadows our not like Kate and Emilico. And they adapt it good.

The last part is the ballroom dance is nicely animated and next episode the garden labyrinth.

Overall great episode


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Edward is very mysterious I really want to see his shadow which is also very mysterious too.
May 8, 2021 7:50 PM
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A sedate episode with a dire foreshadowing at the end....The Garden! LOL
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So the debut seems more or less like an evaluation of the dynamic between the shadows and their faces, and they get ranked based off of whatever observations are made. Emilico and Kate aren't doing so well so hopefully they bounce back.
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Really enjoying the series so far. Has a good amount of tension and mystery to it. We're slowly being exposed to the story, and as some other poster in a previous episode said, they're not showing the plot/story/etc. in one big dialog as if reading a book.


Last episode the fans panicked coz a certain character was "omitted" but a clarification was made by the author and the studio themselves, the said character will be integrated later on, as for the "plot/story/etc" you're talking about, if assume correctly that you're talking about the right thing, it'll happen next episode, as people been saying since weeks ago even before the first episode aired, the plot will be a slow burn

EDIT: oh wait, I guess I read your comment wrong, so you're saying the show is one big exposition? But the show is doing the complete opposite tho, the show is a one big "Show, Don't tell."
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start of the debut arc ! and also a little more look into the shadows and their dolls' relationships. we now know how mia got her scars from that shower scene, ricky sometimes lead patrick a little too much, lou being a great doll, shaun having the complete opposite personality from john (shaun is quite calm, john is loud and eccentric), rum and shirley .. not really having a relationship and of course emilico and kate with their complimentary bond.
May 8, 2021 10:21 PM

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The beating was unnecessary.

May 8, 2021 10:37 PM

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"Show, Don't tell."

Yeah this is what I meant. It feels refreshing. I believe some of the mystery would be lost if they weren't doing what you said, slow burn.
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So we finally have all the Master-Doll pair names.
1. Kate-Emilico
2. John-Shaun
3. Louise-Lou
4. Patrick-Ricky
5. Shirley-Rum

in the order of the ending. I think that this is the best episode overall so far. There was a lot of tension and relief from start to end, which made the episode very enjoyable. Looking forward to the Garden Labyrinth now. 5/5
May 9, 2021 12:27 AM

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Man, this was such a thrilling episode.. i don't even know what to say..
Also.. can anyone explain what did the author had to clarify from the previous episode?
May 9, 2021 1:27 AM

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Also.. can anyone explain what did the author had to clarify from the previous episode?
It's the episode director, they were forced to remove that one character because of the unforeseen circumstances that this show will receive a Season 2. If they can green-light S2 then they'll add the character back in.

Anyways, the problem is cleared (with the disaffectionate look on Barbie's face), and Emilico is getting ready for her debut with Kate alongside the other Living Dolls with their Shadow masters. It's a big deal in the Shadows House for newcomers:
- Mia-Sarah with the beating consequence (which was kinda the discipline that went a bit overboard);
- Shaun-John with the mix-and-match;
- Rum-Shirley with the same unconfident feel;
- Ricky-Patrick with the obsolescence of evil overflowing;
- Lou-Louise with the beautification and all.

NGL, the Special Doll to the Shadows master Lord Grandfather Edward looks enthralling, and the trip to see Lord Grandfather for the debut is one thriller adventure: the performance on the spot is essential to the progress and grading of both Living Doll and Shadow master partner whether they can debut successfully.

The balance between tensions and relief is a masterclass this episode, and threading between both lines is what makes this slow episode an enjoyable one (which is much-needed). Regardless of similar or different personalities, it only proves that the relationship between Kate and Emilico is an uncommon, yet unique piece in this puzzle.

Out of the Garden, and into the Labyrinth. A special Living Doll laying the foundation, this'll make it interesting.
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Great episode! Though some translation in the episode feels off. Feels good to see Barbie be proven wrong. Feel really bad for Mia, it was really Sarah that was abusing her. John and Shaun I feel like has the best relationship from what I am seeing, they're very wholesome. Kate and Emilico has a good relationship as well but they still have things to improve on. It's nice to see Rum and Shaun cheering on Emilico though, their friendship is sweet.

Suck it Ricky, feels really satisfying to see Patrick and Ricky going down the ranks lmao. Really looking forward to the next episode.
May 9, 2021 3:09 AM
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Barbie got humiliated by a mere lowkey living doll. Mia laughed at it, which is a pretty warm scene. Too bad the later scene is a little disturbing and shocking me. Well, at least Mia can hold it up. So, err, i am just saying okay for now.

Kate and Emilico again. Too late for preparation, eh? I understand why Kate laughing at you, Emi-chan. I mean look at that:

Funny af >°<

Yo, finally they introduced the other shadows. Shadow Louise, John, and Patrick. They are surely had a lot of different personalities. The other one still quiet af. I wonder why? Okay, don't fret over such a trivial matter. I understand.

Debut time! That adult doll, special living doll, acted as their judge, heh? Well, thats some unexpected kind of 'debut' to begin with, just show him what you've got? Damn, as short as ever.

Looks like shadow Louise easily leading there, Kate dumped as the last because of Emilico? Well, ofc Louise attack hit Emilico so much until she couldn't do anything. Kate fret over the wrong matter, and almost made them fall apart in the last dance play. But, that last cheers from her new two friends got Emilico moral increasing again, and ended the debut without having everyone fail behind.

Or not? At least they made him quite disappointing with the end result.
Lets see what else next!
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Damn, this process is rough. I'm very hooked on where it'll progress to next.
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