| I love Jin as a character but his side effect is a pain I feel like if they can somehow remove him or his side effect the bad guys/attacking forces would have more of a surprise factor but Jin having that kinda side effect is just too OP unless the attacking force knows about his side effect then maybe they can plan and find a way to counter it but so far I feel like as long as Jin has this side effect he and the good guys will always be a step ahead. Maybe something like a cloak or something that can't be detected by Jins side effect but the problem is once he sees the person he can already see branches of what their goal is |
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Juonithz said: _Jougo_ said: I love Jin as a character but his side effect is a pain I feel like if they can somehow remove him or his side effect the bad guys/attacking forces would have more of a surprise factor but Jin having that kinda side effect is just too OP unless the attacking force knows about his side effect then maybe they can plan and find a way to counter it but so far I feel like as long as Jin has this side effect he and the good guys will always be a step ahead. Maybe something like a cloak or something that can't be detected by Jins side effect but the problem is once he sees the person he can already see branches of what their goal is I love Jin, and we've already seen that the Neighbors have an Idea that Border has someone like that on their side. I also don't think it's a hindrance. Jin doesn't really tell anyone what he sees with his Side Effect, he just let's things go on as organic as he can. And when he does hint at it they have to put the pieces together themselves. I don't think they need to side line him at all. He's the self proclaimed Border Elite. Yeah i just feel like with him around with his side effect border relies too much on him I'd like to see them get attack without Jin seeing or knowing its coming as long as Jin is there they can plan and counter for a attack, I don't want Jin joining the away team because he will know if someone is in danger or if a certain character will get injured badly |
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Juonithz said: _Jougo_ said: I love Jin as a character but his side effect is a pain I feel like if they can somehow remove him or his side effect the bad guys/attacking forces would have more of a surprise factor but Jin having that kinda side effect is just too OP unless the attacking force knows about his side effect then maybe they can plan and find a way to counter it but so far I feel like as long as Jin has this side effect he and the good guys will always be a step ahead. Maybe something like a cloak or something that can't be detected by Jins side effect but the problem is once he sees the person he can already see branches of what their goal is I love Jin, and we've already seen that the Neighbors have an Idea that Border has someone like that on their side. I also don't think it's a hindrance. Jin doesn't really tell anyone what he sees with his Side Effect, he just let's things go on as organic as he can. And when he does hint at it they have to put the pieces together themselves. I don't think they need to side line him at all. He's the self proclaimed Border Elite. Because i was watching season 2 and i was like what if Jin wasn't around they would have definitely lost this battle against the invaders |
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| Not really he admitted that he’s sees a number of possible futures it’s not like there’s just one that’s destined to happen. |
epicchad100 said: Not really he admitted that he’s sees a number of possible futures it’s not like there’s just one that’s destined to happen. Maybe I didn't explain it properly I'm not great at explaining, maybe not a hindrance but i was just thinking his involvement can cause a huge shift, but if they i mean the author got moved him away then border would not be so good at dealing with invading forces etc they'd have to work out things differently its like senzu beans from dbz having that item is like jailbreak its op thats what jin feels like to me a asset that can change the playing field greatly but if removed things can get more chaotic since that asset is gone basically like if superman dies all the villains who are scared of him would go rampant i don't know if that made sense |
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spaesu said: i mean i think i kind of get what you mean but just because he can see the futures doesnt mean that he can definitely change them, i think it makes the story more interesting although i can see why you could find it annoying at times. Yeah because even if he can't change it but he can inform others of the events hence they can be aware of it like tachikawa during season 2 jin saw a future of him getting sliced in half so what did tachikawa do he used that to his advantage but if jin never told him things could have taken a different route |
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NHS-KEMISH said: Well that's what his side effect is about...changing the future. And like he says all the times, it doesnt mean things will change his way. There are many paths the future can take, and it depends on the actions of everyone. On the last invation I think he was really sry cause he didnt expect Mikumo to get that hurt. Jin = Gojo say he's going to be Op lol Well he did expect him to get hurt actually. He specifically wanted the invaders to focus on Chika so that they would do less damage to the city. |
| Jin (or rather his side effect) is simply a plot armor for the story. But i don't mind that. |
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Elma_fer said: I don't know man. I think it would be way too one sided for the neighbour's if Jin wasn't around. Yes he's too op but I think having him is a must for humans to compete :p I kinda want it to go down that route like Jin is the safety device remove the safety device and all hell breaks loose basically what @NHS-KEMISH said Jin= Gojo kinda, but I have a feeling the mangaka will do something which will make Jin not get to involved we've seen before the most OP character always removed for a while heck this is why Saitama from One Punch Man has little involvement until the last minute cuz he would destroy the plot, the OP squad just too OP although I kind feel like Shinoda is probably the strongest at border tho |
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| I understand what you are saying, he sort of kills the tension, along with that one other black trigger user who can level a city, but at least that trigger user has the drawback where they can't fight in populated areas. Having a character this strong is sort of like having one punch man as a side character, makes it impossible for your team to actually lose as long as they use their precognition perfectly. I think they can take the bungou stray dogs approach and give them an enemy with equally good foresight or an enemy that is so strong that foresight just delays the inevitable and they have to get really creative to win. |
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ACasualViewer said: I understand what you are saying, he sort of kills the tension, along with that one other black trigger user who can level a city, but at least that trigger user has the drawback where they can't fight in populated areas. Having a character this strong is sort of like having one punch man as a side character, makes it impossible for your team to actually lose as long as they use their precognition perfectly. I think they can take the bungou stray dogs approach and give them an enemy with equally good foresight or an enemy that is so strong that foresight just delays the inevitable and they have to get really creative to win. Oh my god well said this is what I was referring to, but I lack proper explanation skills to get it across lol also, I agree with you when you said (I think they can take the bungou stray dogs approach and give them an enemy with equally good foresight or an enemy that is so strong that foresight just delays the inevitable and they have to get really creative to win.) this seems the most logical way to deal with Jin |
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Youbamii said: although I kind feel like Shinoda is probably the strongest at border tho Shinoda is definitely the strongest in terms of using a standard trigger. Konami and Tachikawa are also on par with Jin when he is using a standard trigger. |
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