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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- The timeloop of nightmare dreams down to the last call for Rika... The progenitor of the Oyashiro-sama curse...is to finish Rika with the whims of the master hallucination syndrome, even if 100X mutliple years aren't enough for suffering in Hinamizawa, thr brainwashing of normal humans that tore relations apart to the point of no return. Back to present day, and a beach scene lols...what a disconnect. But Satoko knows fully well how much Rika is suffering from within (just not without the curse in effect). The scene of bringing back Episode 1 with the whole Hinamizawa Dam situation, it's a stark contrast to how many loops that Rika have went through, and erasing the arcs that happened here in Gou, and the impending intertwining fate of doom. Rika meeting Tomitake and Takano...I'd presume they're the culprits of this Nekodamashi-hen arc, but whatever may come next week will tell the full story to the end of this arc. The Question-turned-Answer-turned-Question arcs, what a cluster. |
KANLen09Jan 21, 2021 12:19 PM
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| What the heck, I thought it would be yuri route. Horrible early minute, I think it's Rika's last chance. That dream also includes a curse, the story of the horrible beginnings and screams is so disturbing. As usual the black sensor is so annoying. Satoko uses the painkiller injection every day, Even though Rika are a shrine maiden, Rika breaking Oyashiro-sama's commandments. That's right, The desire to leave Hinamizawa is a prohibition that cannot be broken, It's like Rika betrayed Oyashiro-sama. Satoko being a Shrine Maiden is very strange, because Shrine Maiden can only do by Furude family. Stop this torture, 12 minutes filled with Rika-sama torture. It was a beautiful memory but if it ended in tragedy, anyone would want to leave Hinamizawa ofc Rika too. Rika's feeling not to leave Hinamizawa is strong enough here, the conversation with Satoko also supports her feeling to stay in Hinamizawa. After the tragedy in the 12 minutes starting the last 12 minutes just having fun, it's just what needs to be talked about? Rika and Takano-san Rika can get through this tragedy just only by loving Hinamizawa and look like next eps still Nekodamashi |
| They censored the stab wounds in episode 4 but Rika having her guts casually hanging out was just fine to show on TV? I mean, why not right. |
KeirikJan 21, 2021 9:04 AM
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| Satoko is the one who finishes off Rika in the last one. Seems Rika is going to take the approach of appreciating Hinamizawa. This episode was really really really gore heavy. If Rika has lived over 100 years. Then let's say she dies every 2 weeks. That means Rika has died around 2600 times..  feel so bad for rika... |
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Keirik said: perfect censorship right??They censored the stab wounds in episode 1 but Rika having her guts casually hanging out was just fine to show on TV? I mean, why not right. |
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| Jesus Christ they censored Rena stabbing Keichi to death but Satoko literally pulling Rika’s intestines out is ok?? Re:Zero also censored that in the first cour. That was really hard to watch, Rika’s just been through so much. Too much. But at least she’s finally beginning to get to the root of everything. Ngl tho, I’m not a fan of how she’s basically being gaslit into loving the village and not wanting to leave. Takano looks like she’ll be the last big hurdle. |
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| Awful. Is this a creepypasta? Why do all of this? Who get's off to this? Good that most content was recycled, because I couldn't watch this torture porn every episode. |
Keirik said: Different time slots.They censored the stab wounds in episode 4 but Rika having her guts casually hanging out was just fine to show on TV? I mean, why not right. Satoko whole story is probably a red herring with maybe a tiny hint of the truth, I doubt R07 would seriously write a story where the whole message is "You shouldn't leave your hometown", frantically there isn't anything wrong with Rika's behaviors that deserve such inhuman punishment. Satoko herself is probably not the culprit. I guess Rika probably figured there is something off with Takano, wow it only took her 16 episodes to actually investigate that plot point! |
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| The confrontation between Rika and Satoko was atrocious and so gore, the bowels scene made me want to throw up to be honest. And that second part... they ended the episode with a cliffhanger, now I can't wait |
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| I'm confused, intrigued, and concerned. Contrerned, if you will. jaw201 said: Keirik said: They censored the stab wounds in episode 1 but Rika having her guts casually hanging out was just fine to show on TV? I mean, why not right. It was censored on live tv. Funi has been releasing the uncensored versions since episode 13 o ok that makes sense |
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| Well that was very gory. Kinda hard to watch ngl. And as mentioned it makes the earlier censorship in the show seem awfully inconsistent Also it seems kinda weird if we're just converging towards Takano now when we haven't really been having much of a consistent foundation for the mystery throughout the arcs. Like in the original Higurashi everything starts the same and then gradually goes in different directions depending on the slight deviations, but here it's been so all over the place that it just seems random going that direction now |
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| that watanagashi though at the start had me holding on to my guts lol. That cliffhanger ending though wtf. Did it really have to end there? It's crazy to think there's still 9 episodes. AND ANOTHER WEEK OF WAITING GOES |
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| Just when you thought the show couldn't get any more gruesome.... WTF Satoko! xD. Btw, how was Rika alive for so long with her bowels exposed and then cut in a half? o.O And then... BEACH EPISODE!!! I certainly enjoyed it but come on, make it one of those SOL episodes from the early part and not just 2 minutes of fun after watching Rika get butchered xD. Everything was going too well but obviously something had to happen in the end, I wonder what Rika was going to say about Takano? From the flashbacks you can tell Takano and Tomitake are important but so far not much is known about them. Also, I don't think that staying tied to Hinamizawa is the fairest solution to all this. So many flashbacks and answers that probably won't be answered in this season... damn it, I should have watched the previous seasons a long time ago but whatever, I'm loving it anyway. It will be interesting to watch the old series after having seen the finale though. |
| Bruh!!! That Rika gore reminded me of Kizumonogatari. Like holy shit she had her guts open the entire time, her suffering was unimaginable. Thou that first few minutes got me good. They even threw in some swimsuit service in this episode and now Rika confronts Takano. What does she wanna talk with Rika, is it what we think? |
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| Tomitake and Takano please don’t ruin everything Tomitake and Takano please don’t ruin everything Tomitake and Takano please don’t ruin everything Tomitake and Takano please don’t ruin everything Tomitake and Takano please don’t ruin everything |
| Garbage episode. The message was literally 'don't dream of having a future or else you will get punished'. Like... what? Rika worked hard to get out of those time-loops so that she could have a future and now they(the writers) want to torture her for having a future... Wasn't Umineko's message to not dwell in the past to get to a greater future? What happened here then? In fact, wasn't the main message of the original Higurashi WTC the same as Umineko's as well? Anyways, enough about my ramblings Some theories:
Overall, this may be one of the worst episodes in this anime.(Just my opinion though) |
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| STOP HURTING RIKA FOR A MINUTE FFS. That scene was really gory, even for Higurashi standards. Satoko pulled Rika's intestines like they're some fucking sausages. The swimsuit scene made me relax a little. Though, Rika's suffering is far from over. Nipah~ |
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ArcueidBestGirl said: Garbage episode. The message was literally 'don't dream of having a future or else you will get punished'. It's obvious a red herring and she's being brainwashed. Thought the real question is what the fuck is Gou's message though and it will related to the original story's message. |
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| Having to watch Rika getting disembowelled for like 10 minutes in full uncensored gloy made me feel really uncomfortable. Keirik said: Satoko whole story is probably a red herring with maybe a tiny hint of the truth, I doubt R07 would seriously write a story where the whole message is "You shouldn't leave your hometown", frantically there isn't anything wrong with Rika's behaviors that deserve such inhuman punishment. Satoko herself is probably not the culprit. I guess Rika probably figured there is something off with Takano, wow it only took her 16 episodes to actually investigate that plot point! I really hope it is a red herring, the message from the original Higurashi is too different ("You should talk to your friends and ask for help" to "How dare you to leave your hometown where you suffered for 100 years and wanting to experience new things in a new town"). If it isn't a red herring then that would also mean that Hanyuu is a pretty big jerk lmao. I wonder if Takano will be the villain like in the original Higurashi for the final loop or we'll get our expectations subverted and she'll talk about something different? |
Dracus said: I seriously didn't like this. It's like they butchered both Satoko and Rika' characters at once. Especially Rika's, who deserves much better. Also, the gore is pointless af. Yea, they really butchered Rika, that's for sure. Although maybe only her lower half... |
jaw201Jan 21, 2021 10:00 AM
| I couldn't dismiss the feeling that something bad would happen by the end of this episode, having bright fun moments just after seeing Rika being lacerated inside out didn't feel right... But well, gladly we still have 9 epis to go, it would be very sad (to not say trashy) if all these arcs' morale were that Rika can't leave Hinamizawa and live her own life in her own way. By the way, is my memory being tricky with me, or this ep and the one before it were way gorier than the original anime? Maybe they're trying to compensate for Watanabe's "moe" character designs idk... |
| Rika is being gaslit into loving this town. Yet that seemingly seems to work as most of the arcs have been avoided. The ending tells me there is more to see still, so my curiosity is only rising. |
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| I dont mind that Rika failed miserably again, I dont mind that Satoko did all that and I dont mind the gore. But holy shit why did it take Rika so long to die?Sure anime characters can endure a lot and lose gallons of blood but come on. The part where she remained alive for so long after her upper body was torn off had me rolling my eyes. Keichi and Tomitake take while till they manage to hurt their throats and they die right after that. Satoko and everyone in Gou apparently have Wolverine's claws for nails and dont mind the injury at all. I dont even care about the stupid message Gou is going for and how a woman that is 100+ years old mentally was brainwashed by a freaking child. And then we have an obligatory beach(river) episode and we have to pretend like the previous 12 minutes didnt happen. If Satoko is just a red herring then it is a pretty bad execution, making her seem like she knows so many stuff that she shouldnt. Also was getting BernxLambda vibes at the start before it all went downhill. Rika shouldnt agree with her. She should go full postal to release some steam. I cant even see Bernkastel as an evil witch anymore. And of course it ends right when it got interesting. It ends at the moment Rika and Gou should have arrived 14 episodes ago. I hope people who watch this only for the gore got heir fix. |
ArcueidBestGirl said: Garbage episode. The message was literally 'don't dream of having a future or else you will get punished'. Like... what? Rika worked hard to get out of those time-loops so that she could have a future and now they(the writers) want to torture her for having a future... Wasn't Umineko's message to not dwell in the past to get to a greater future? What happened here then? In fact, wasn't the main message of the original Higurashi WTC the same as Umineko's as well? Anyways, enough about my ramblings Ikr? I'm vehemently trying to believe R07 is just tauting people to see if they'd believe a theory that goes against everything both stories have meant so far. I mean, Satoko just spillied it so clearly when there are still 9 episodes this season... Maybe it's just delusional talk due to her syndrome, but that seemed so convenient along Rika's fears that she just took it for granted. I'm trying not to form any solid opinion before the season's ending, but if it ends like this, with everything being solved by Rika having to lock herself in Hinamizawa, this season would be a total garbage imo too. |
| The first half of the episode was, in my opinion, unnecessarily dragged out and gory. They could've made all of that in less than 10 minutes. The last part from when she woke up, made up for it. |
ArcueidBestGirl said: Garbage episode. The message was literally 'don't dream of having a future or else you will get punished'. I really don't think that was the message. Humans have limited lifespans & the time we have with those we love never seems to be enough in retrospect once they pass. Rika focuses on her own suffering, even when an arc is about helping another suffering friend. She's not selfish for wanting to leave Hinamizawa. It's what precedes that choice that makes her selfish. |
| @ArcueidBestGirl @Gustop1 Fellas... please. That's not the actual message that will be sent with the series. Unless we're going for a bad ending. There's 8 episodes left. It's like Magicmist says. Rika is being gaslighted into this way of thinking. OBVIOUSLY it's not wrong for her to want to leave the village, considering everything. That could never be the message, because it's objectively fucking wrong. It's perfectly fine for her to want to leave, and she should be allowed to leave. Someone is trying to keep her around. In the end  |
| Hey you, you're finally awake. me :*sweeting When i saw Satoko taking out Rika’s abdomen and pulling out her intestines holy crap was hurt to watch... |
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More like inconsistent. Making things as vague as possible doesn't make him a genius. |
Harlequina said: @ArcueidBestGirl @Gustop1 Fellas... please. That's not the actual message that will be sent with the series. Unless we're going for a bad ending. There's 8 episodes left. It's like Magicmist says. Rika is being gaslighted into this way of thinking. OBVIOUSLY it's not wrong for her to want to leave the village, considering everything. That could never be the message, because it's objectively fucking wrong. It's perfectly fine for her to want to leave, and she should be allowed to leave. Someone is trying to keep her around. In the end The problem isnt if this is the message but that Rika was actually gaslighted by a child. Even if this is what Rika temporarily thinks, she somehow was manipulated into accepting it. Rika isnt Battler after 2 loops. Rika isnt a lonely 18 year old girl like Ange who just witnessed the worst truth. Satoko is no witch. There is no reason for Rika to fall for that, especially when the reason why she was fed up with this village was happening at that moment. |
jaw201 said: ssjokg said: The problem isnt if this is the message but that Rika was actually gaslighted by a child. Even if this is what Rika temporarily thinks, she somehow was manipulated into accepting it. Rika isnt Battler after 2 loops. Rika isnt a lonely 18 year old girl like Ange who just witnessed the worst truth. Satoko is no witch. There is no reason for Rika to fall for that, especially when the reason why she was fed up with this village was happening at that moment. Your points don't add up. There was already foreshadowing from the previous episode that Rika was already in an unstable mental state. These loops, along with SPECIFICALLY LOSING HANYUU, are what made a mindbreak possible. Rika says so herself, that she never would have been able to stay sane for 100 years if she didn't have Hanyuu. This is 100% consistent with Rika's own character. Rika was able to survive 100 years of loops because of the fact she had Hanyuu. She no longer has Hanyuu, and after 6 of the worst possible fragments Rika has probably experienced with absolutely no progress made in any of them, her mental state would be crushed by that. You say that it's impossible, but you are just forgetting and ignoring important character details for Rika and are passing off your mistakes as the writer's mistake. So Rika is fine for 100 years but the moment she is alone she reverts back to child. Please... And why are those the 6 worst? What happened to the ones where Keichi doesnt come to the village? And no it isnt 100% consistent with Rika's own character since we have never seen Rika act like this the moment she is left alone. I wont bother with more replies since it is obvious you would trust R07 or whoever is behind this with your life. |
PlayMaker22 said: It's pretty funny that people are randomly complaining that the show wants to give the message of never leaving your village when Rika herself fought to live with her friends in the original series, but ok. Rika after achieving the miracle thanks to the support of her friends who fought alongside her: "Hasta la vistaaaaaaaa" The episode focused on why RIKA HATES HINAMIZAWA. Unfortunately, we have reached the point where you have to complain about everything I imagine people arent allowed to have fun and higher education in a town in driving distance from the village, because meeting with friends would be so incredible hard.... Incredible. |
| Finally we got a good amount of gore in Gou. I really missed the bloody scenes from the og series and Gou has finally (kinda) delivered. There were few good scenes in the previous epsiodes: Rena vs. Keichi, Teppei killing Keichi or Oishi's rampage, but they weren't as good as the ones in the og series. I still can't figure out where is the story but I suspect the ending this time will be very different from Kai, which will probably be a good thing. Depends on the execution. |
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