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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Andromon...one of the badass Digimon I remember from the first series. A close all for Mimi when she got attacked though. I think the interesting part is that even machines have feelings. Wonderful to see Lillymon showing up! |
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I'm sure this image of Machinedramon in Greymon's Super Evolution scene has no significance at all.. |
| This was one of the best episodes. Good emotional development for mimi and Palmon. I was hoping the guardmon would survive, but damn, reality is often disappointing. I liked Lilimon’s evolution sequence and appreciated how it was tied to Mimi’s growth. |
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| This episode was a nice one. Though Metal Greymon was not important. Lilimon had a good show for us. Sad to see how the Andromon having to be manipulated and asking what he has been doing before he was 'shut down' for good. Guardromon was a guardian to the very end. What a pal despite not having much spotlight. |
| I liked this episode a lot since Guardromon is one on my favorite Digimon from Digimon Story Cybersleuth. Its really interesting counter to the portrayal in the original series, where they were just see them a ordinary henchmen/robot hybrids. I'm going to guess that this is the last that we'll see of Andromon. For this series at least. |
| they are evolving way fast if you ask me.... hmmm |
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| Wow, okay. Where to even start... 1) Is it just me or are they giving the digimon more character than the humans? Tentomon, Agumon and Guardromon had more moments that that spoke of their character than any of the 3 CC. Even Mimi's "outburst" felt lackluster, as if they are going through the motions without having to do all the build-up. Well, at least, Palmon is still eh. 2) This entire episode is basically a combo of the holy shrine and the factory from Adventure but with none of the intrigue. Those episodes provided information and allies. This episode gives no new info and kills any allies off and then has Koushiro gives us a mini-info dump about them being comrades because that's ~dark~ and ~edgy~ for the little kids, right? 3) THREE times they repeat the same situation: andromon goes to attack mimi, close up, mimi closes her eyes and DOESN'T MOVE, close up, someone saves her, close up of her opening her eyes in shock. How lazy. 4) Lillimon's ENTIRE EVOLUTION. "Oh, this is a reboot! Totally not at all related to the original! This is for the new generation; the kiddies!" >>proceeds to 99.9% copy Adventure They didn't even try here; it's all lifted straight out of Adventure. They just added more sparkles and a colorful background. Except they didn't do her flower chain attack and FREE Andromon; she just killed him despite knowing Andromon is possessed. The good: 1) A goofy moment with Taichi. 2) Lillimon's petals jamming Andromon's system. Just wow. The laziest Mimi episode ever. If I had any hopes for this truly trying to do its own thing with the humans, this episode killed them off without remorse. I HAD THEM! This is all flash -- good for fights. There's no depth beyond how they can create more "cool" fights; all I can now hope for is that the plot development and progression is good. |
| Lilimon Kawaiii :3 RIP Guardramon, he tried his best to save Mimi till the end. This was a touching and sad episode, felt bad for Mimi but she's a strong girl. She's already looking ahead. |
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| damn Guardramon died and its sad RIP Lilimon is cool though |
| I didn't mention this last episode but kudo for Yamato's team for using Birdramon as the main transportation instead of the tedious walking. This was a fine episode, "meh" if I'm honest. Though i don't want to call it's boring since I'm pretty sure there'll be much more boring episodes in the future. Oh man they recited Lilymon's evolution sequence in Adventure, but not in 3D. I was hoping for a visual similar to MetalGreymon and WereGarurumon at least. Guess they're lazy or Lilymon's debut in the original was so beautiful that they can't top it. The only different is that this Lilymon has pixie dust when flying, other than that basically the same in Adventure. It only occurs to me now that we haven't seen any Digimon eggs, so all the controlled Digimon that the kid had fought are completely erased and can't be revived, like in Tamers? Or are they going to be revived after the children meet the Holy Digimon? But whatever the case is, I wonder if we're gonna get a episode that the children have dilemma in fighting and 'killing' a digimon. Next ep is Sora. I'm hoping for a more enjoyable fight |
| Last week it is Yamato's side, and now it's Taichi's side, with Mimi and Palmon adventuring on their own whilst still in complete danger at any given point of time. The targeting Ultimate Digimon Andromon and the protective Guardromon, two different Digimon albeit manipulation on the former's side and help from the latter. RIP to Guardromon though. MetalGreymon was fine, but it's Palmon's Super Evolution to her Ultimate form Lilimon that takes the cake. Jamming Andrmon's targeting abilities to shut it down and give closure to Guardromon. A fine episode that was reserved for Mimi's character development, but I don't know if you could even call that in the first place. It was cool, YES, but otherwise felt MEH and lacking for the most part. *And if given by the 66-episode threshold mark standards, we're only 1/6 the way.* |
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| A cool final fight. |
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Lahis said: Glad I'm not the only one who noticed. But what does that mean? Did they really mistake MetalGreymon's head with Machinedramon's head? Or was that a callback attempt to the original when WarGreymon killed Machinedramon?I'm sure this image of Machinedramon in Greymon's Super Evolution scene has no significance at all.. |
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Renkini said: I'm thinking it is foreshadowing for Dark Evolution. Taichi gets reckless or power hungry or otherwise fucks up, and Metalgreymon evolves into Machinedramon.Lahis said: Glad I'm not the only one who noticed. But what does that mean? Did they really mistake MetalGreymon's head with Machinedramon's head? Or was that a callback attempt to the original when WarGreymon killed Machinedramon?I'm sure this image of Machinedramon in Greymon's Super Evolution scene has no significance at all.. |
Lahis said: I see, that's also another possibility. I was thinking along the line where rumors are true that the kids and Digimon in this reboot are actually the same ones from OG timeline so this Agumon is the same Agumon who once killed Machinedramon.Renkini said: I'm thinking it is foreshadowing for Dark Evolution. Taichi gets reckless or power hungry or otherwise fucks up, and Metalgreymon evolves into Machinedramon.Glad I'm not the only one who noticed. But what does that mean? Did they really mistake MetalGreymon's head with Machinedramon's head? Or was that a callback attempt to the original when WarGreymon killed Machinedramon? |
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Sakarii said: 1) Is it just me or are they giving the digimon more character than the humans? Tentomon, Agumon and Guardromon had more moments that that spoke of their character than any of the 3 CC. No, you're definitely right. They somehow managed to give Guardromon more personality than any of the main cast in just one single episode. This reboot definitely doesn't have any of the character development the original had so far :/ That being said, while I was seriously annoyed at Metalgreymons digivolution scene (I honestly skip all of Agumons evolution scenes to Greymon - yeah they are pretty, but I don't appreciate them at all cause of all the favoritism, especially since the others mostly evolve off screen), I liked the way they portrayed Lilimon for the most part. Flower Canon seems to be a little bit different compared to the original - shooting multiple beams of light and turning everything that's being hit into plants/nature. I like it :) I'm also glad Mimi actually got the spotlight, even tho Tai was in this episode as well. Next up is Sora! Hopefully Garudamon will get a cool digivolution scene (Birdramon literally didn't even have one at all after all). |
There's no possible way you can steal my heart    I want to drown in this sweet Melancholy |
| I'm watching Digimon Adventure again(1999) to make some comparisons, and I don't know if the lack of crests on this version was a good idea. The digivice alone only makes the digimons evolve to champions on 1999 version, and the crests, along with the characteristic associated to the kid (courage, friendship and others) in a certain risk situation, makes the chou shinka happens. Also, the first version really looks like an adventure, this version looks more like a mission. |
| Imagine how boring this world would be without Japan - a comment at youtube |
| Mimi and Lilimon as cute as always, she did badass axe kick too. |
Renkini said: Well it is an interesting question how this series and original Adventure universe relate to eachother in the Digimon multiverse.Lahis said: I see, that's also another possibility. I was thinking along the line where rumors are true that the kids and Digimon in this reboot are actually the same ones from OG timeline so this Agumon is the same Agumon who once killed Machinedramon.I'm thinking it is foreshadowing for Dark Evolution. Taichi gets reckless or power hungry or otherwise fucks up, and Metalgreymon evolves into Machinedramon. |
| Guardromon No.2078? More like Guardromon Android 16 amirite? |
JustMonakaAug 23, 2020 11:58 PM
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| This week episode for me is one of the better one’s in term of characterization for Mimi and shows how dire the situation is for both humans and Digimon. We are introduced to Guardramon and Andromon, who are the residents of the weapons factory that Tai group stumble upon. Compared to last few episodes of Matt/Tai achieving their ultimate level felt less earned, compared to Mimi and Palmon this time around. Wasn’t surprise that Andromon was tough fighter and stood up again, after getting hit by Mgreymon Giga storm attack. I should mention that evolution scene of Greymon into ultimate was spectacular visually, with hints* of Machinedramon in sequences as a red aura, before the transition into Mgreymon. It actually took Palmon to digivolve into her ultimate form Lilimon to put down Andromon for good. I doubt he is gone for good, since he was a ally to the kids in the original. The last moments before he was enveloped by the greenery, he was able to recover from his mind control, but they’re saving it for future episode where he and maybe Guardramon meet up with Mimi and company, since we didn’t see their bodies disappear, plus it would make Mimi look bad for killing off a recovered Digimon at the last moments. Its understandable why watchers are ranting that the evolution sequences are to focus on Tai and Matt. I don’t want give anyone high hopes, but I feel the development team is saving the rest of the children sequences for later down the road, its going to be good for padding it out across 66 episodes and don’t forget the Mega levels. There plenty of time to give everyone a fair share. OKQ8 said: If they keep the original idea of reincarnation through digi eggs, then there is hope to see them once again near the end of the series.So Andromon is really gonna die like that? They keep killing of all of the og's. Im starting to wonder if theyll even get any allied digimons. Only whamon survived but he didnt even have any dialouge |
vansonbeeAug 23, 2020 7:59 PM
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| So this week we get some character development from Mimi and Pallmon finally reaches her ultimate form, Lilimon. Next week will be Sora and Bridramon time to shine and reach a ultimate form. |
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| This episode had references to Ghibli's Laputa/Castle in the Sky, the last scene reminded me a lot of it |
StormxNightmare said: No, you're definitely right. They somehow managed to give Guardromon more personality than any of the main cast in just one single episode. This reboot definitely doesn't have any of the character development the original had so far :/ At this rate new watchers will have to watch the 90s version to get the human character development. Really feels like this is gonna be the digimon's adventure not the kids'. |
Sakarii said: StormxNightmare said: No, you're definitely right. They somehow managed to give Guardromon more personality than any of the main cast in just one single episode. This reboot definitely doesn't have any of the character development the original had so far :/ At this rate new watchers will have to watch the 90s version to get the human character development. Really feels like this is gonna be the digimon's adventure not the kids'. The title is Digimon Adventure so you're not too far off ;) |
booyah10 said: The title is Digimon Adventure so you're not too far off ;) .....Touché. xD |
| Never make a loli cry... Or she will smash u :,) |
| Feel pain, think about pain, accept pain, know pain... Shinra Tensei! |
| I like that Mimi was the main focus this episode, but Liliimon's evolution scene and the fight were so underwhelming. |
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| My little lesbian angel Mimi have the kindest of hearts and cares so much even for a robot.Honey you are so damn cute Interesting episode Lilimon. Lili Lily=Yuri=YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES Best episode so far imo. Because my beautiful princess and her cute digimon was the big stars  |
Yuri-CrusaderAug 25, 2020 1:31 PM
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Yuri-Crusader said: Its interesting to see all kind of fans of show, like shipping yuri relationship between Digimon and their human partners. I'm more of a digimon on digimon type of fan, Ladydevimon and Angewomon anyone?My little lesbian angel Mimi have the kindest of hearts and cares so much even for a robot.Honey you are so damn cute Interesting episode Lilimon. Lili Lily=Yuri=YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES Best episode so far imo. Because my beautiful princess and her cute digimon was the big stars [ig]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5e/b8/bf/5eb8bf0ae0343360233cbc8616b0d9bd.jpg[/img] I just realize all ultimate for female kids are in humanoid shape and has wings to fly. |
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Lahis said: I'm sure this image of Machinedramon in Greymon's Super Evolution scene has no significance at all.. Thanks for poiting this out. I was seeing so many people discussing Machinedramon for some reason and I was super confused why. Seemed to early to bring him up |
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ricksed said: The whole thing can turn out to be Greymon borrowing Machinedramon power (metal arm) to digivolve into MetalGreymon, OR foreshadowing MetalGreymon dark evolution into Machinedramon, kind of reminds me of SkullGreymon back in the original series, but with twist of him being one of the darkmaster (or not and we get set of new digimon darkmasters instead).Lahis said: I'm sure this image of Machinedramon in Greymon's Super Evolution scene has no significance at all.. [ig]https://i.imgur.com/JT95sT0.png[/img] Thanks for poiting this out. I was seeing so many people discussing Machinedramon for some reason and I was super confused why. Seemed to early to bring him up I guess it comes down to next week episode with Weregarurumon evolution scene, if the theories are true or not. |
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Lahis said: I'm sure this image of Machinedramon in Greymon's Super Evolution scene has no significance at all.. Thanks for poiting this out. I was seeing so many people discussing Machinedramon for some reason and I was super confused why. Seemed to early to bring him up Remember in Digimon lore Machinedramon is the maximum representative of the digimon metal empire, in addition to being a recurring threat in the franchise, if it dates this is practically all digimon that have the possibility of evolving into Machinedramon. Although it is considered a dark digimon, that does not mean it is a villain, but something that was said in the Digimon Next Order video game is the fact that it is unstable due to the much power it has, everything is canon in the Digimon multiverse. Seeya. |
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Its interesting to see all kind of fans of show, like shipping yuri relationship between Digimon and their human partners. I'm more of a digimon on digimon type of fan, Ladydevimon and Angewomon anyone? I just realize all ultimate for female kids are in humanoid shape and has wings to fly. Well, i like Litithmon and Mastemon is great Digimon. Seeya. |
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| Poor Guardromon, that was sad. Also WTF Yamato's group just leaving Neemon's crew to fend for themselves?! |
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| Mmh... a weird "fusion" of two episodes originally set in different locations, without a try to unify them. It also successfully make the thing seem useless. I remember two interesting episodes providing something to the discovery in 2000. I was expecting Mimi to get into some emotional scene since this was supposed to be the Lily episode but. I kept waiting for the episode to feel like one where it would occur. When it finally happened, it was like, errm, jarring? It felt like it should not have happened, actually. Lilymon was not that well drawn, but at least she got a transformations scene, right? Yes, a replication of the original series (up to the sound effects?) ... Also, since when is it okay to destroy a possessed (peaceful) opponent without even showing an inc of how "problematic" this should be to the heroes? (at least ONCE before they get used to "kill" anything on their path) 2/5 Will the only appeal of this series ever be its "cool" (relatively moving) fights ? |
Rei_IIISep 13, 2020 2:52 AM
| I'm trying to like it, but i can't... I play the games to this day (played cybersleuth quite recently), i still have action figures that are almost 20 years old and new ones too, i liked digimon tri and still i don't like this... |
I think I don't know wtf I'm doing. Maybe. Probably. |
| This was a very sad episode. Poor Guardramon. It was still great to see Lilymon again. All that pixie dust made her debut to look so beautiful. |
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