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Jul 20, 2020 2:50 AM
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Hey, guys, I have just finished mob psycho and I was wondering what do you guys think about the final fight in season 2
In my opinion, it was great up until a point, we got to see mob's feelings and how he cries because he realizes he can't save Toichiro Suzuki, that means that he accepts he can't change him, his desires are too powerful and he can't reach his "heart" with just words, so he accepts that and decides to beat the crap out of him. In my opinion, it was one of the best scenes in Mob Psycho but as the minutes of the episode closed in we find out that Suzuki is actually alive and Mob did change him. For me, that was so random and it made me feel some kind of disappointment, the scene was so powerful and great and so quickly ruined by the randomness change in behaviors. I really don't get it, why would they waste such a cool and awesome scene. It made no sense for Suzuki (the final villain) to be saved by Mob. It's like saying Mob actually not trying to save someone is more efficient than him trying to save someone and it destroys many layers of the characters. What do you guys think about this?
mateeiJul 20, 2020 3:03 AM
Aug 1, 2020 3:54 AM
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Agreed, I just finished it seconds ago and I have a same thought with you.
It happened so fast like tension were built but no climax, just jump to the resolution.
Aug 1, 2020 5:50 AM
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Ok so to defend Mob Psycho a bit, the main theme of the entire series is that you are not special and you must comes to terms with that reality. So in essence what the show wanted to accomplish with that scene was that it wanted to commit a little suspension of disbelief in favor for themes (in this case a very unique and mature theme for anime). The point of Suzuki's change of heart was that he realized that he wasn't the most powerful force in the universe (Mob so far is), and the only way he can realize this is through the hard way which is getting beaten badly by another force. Remember for context, Suzuki has a massive hubris problem and he has never encountered someone who can match him. He even brags that he was perfect and untouchable throughout his life. So imagine, him getting wiped by Mob (a literal middle school kid), he would definitely be way beyond just a little shaken. Thus he encountered a powerful force that humbled him, making him change his ways. Having him die essentially ruins that theme of realization and change in people who encounter a humbling moment. If the show was about Mob saving people, that would have two main issues: (1) it would be incredible cliche and boring, and (2) it would contradict the writing focusing on people who have encountered Mob and changed, such as Hanazawa, Ritsu, Asagiri, Emi, and the members of the seventh branch of Claw.

I hope this gives context as to why the show choose this particular ending.
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Aug 1, 2020 7:35 AM
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slidey said:
henri___ said:
Ok so to defend Mob Psycho a bit, the main theme of the entire series is that you are not special and you must comes to terms with that reality. So in essence what the show wanted to accomplish with that scene was that it wanted to commit a little suspension of disbelief in favor for themes (in this case a very unique and mature theme for anime). The point of Suzuki's change of heart was that he realized that he wasn't the most powerful force in the universe (Mob so far is), and the only way he can realize this is through the hard way which is getting beaten badly by another force. Remember for context, Suzuki has a massive hubris problem and he has never encountered someone who can match him. He even brags that he was perfect and untouchable throughout his life. So imagine, him getting wiped by Mob (a literal middle school kid), he would definitely be way beyond just a little shaken. Thus he encountered a powerful force that humbled him, making him change his ways. Having him die essentially ruins that theme of realization and change in people who encounter a humbling moment. If the show was about Mob saving people, that would have two main issues: (1) it would be incredible cliche and boring, and (2) it would contradict the writing focusing on people who have encountered Mob and changed, such as Hanazawa, Ritsu, Asagiri, Emi, and the members of the seventh branch of Claw.

I hope this gives context as to why the show choose this particular ending.


Yeah, but my point was that the scene when mob finally realizes that this person cannot be saved was done so well (it had me thinking about the message of how you can't always save a person even with all the power mob has a character in the show but at the same time as a person) especially because it's the first person we meet with this much pride and arrogance but it was ruined by the contradictory fact of him surviving AND actually changing afterward. I personally don't find the " beat him to his senses " thing unique and it's really overused in basic storytelling.


Again let me reiterate that the story is NOT about whether or not Mob can save people. The message is about people getting humbled and changing, and that message would would go to waste if the main antagonist cannot change. Here is a prime example of what I mean when I'm talking about the theme of the show. Remember in end season 1 when Reigen confronts the 7th Division? Reigen explained that Mob shouldn't fight and he should just run away, if the writing of the show centered on Mob's heroics, Mob wouldn't have listened to Reigen at all and continued fighting (he didn't). Further, when Reigen confronts the Division instead of Mob, his entire argument was that they were immature man-children who think they're hot shit because they have esper powers, and in perspective they're just insignificant people. The same applies to season 2's final fight with Suzuki, in which you have to be humbled and change rather than being self-absorbed. That lesson cannot be learned if he dies. Additionally, it would discourage Mob is Suzuki died after Mob literally went back to help him when he was self-destructing.

Your point is completely missing the purpose of what Mob Psycho 100 is trying to say. It repeatedly has Mob and Reigen telling people "they aren't special so it is destructive when they use their powers for selfish reasons. Of course it would be emotional in that scene when Mob despairs when he thinks that he can't save Suzuki, and I conceded already that there is a suspension of disbelief to accommodate the main theme of the show.

However, I can't dictate how you feel about the ending anyway, but I was able to enjoy it with my interpretation and the flaw you pointed out is non-existent in my view.
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