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Jun 18, 2019 11:46 AM

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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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"A half moon, it has a dark half and a bright half, just like me…", Yuno Gasai

Jun 18, 2019 5:10 PM

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Okay, let's discuss Masumi and Mami fight because I am confused!!!!!

Jun 18, 2019 5:12 PM

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also, Futaba is really pissing me off... I feel like from the start she has been a huge child. She lets how everyone else feels and sees her, just ruin her. I want her to become a strong character and I guess its annoying me that she just stuck in this "dumb girl role".

Jun 18, 2019 9:08 PM

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Oh an actualization just a bit before my birthday.
Mami wins... damn I love her.

And no Taichi, you can't stop talking with someone just because that person likes you. As Mami said, I don't understand but even so...

I like to post in manga forum when I feel it is worth it, so people will think. "Shit, is her again" or something.

People asked me where I read certain thing but the rules say no telling where did you read so maybe I am too boring for not saying? Or salty because you didn't check my profile that says don't ask because I hate people to ghost me after that. I love learning languages so maybe I did not read the manga in English.

Jun 19, 2019 3:52 AM

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stacithemess said:
Okay, let's discuss Masumi and Mami fight because I am confused!!!!!

this chapter was a mess so idk if I got right their fight but basically, from what I understood:

Masumi's side: in her eyes Mami is "normal" so she doesn't and will never understand what Masumi is going through. That's why she said something like "there are things we can't say" because for Masumi, Mami is someone who can say whatever she wants freely, she doesn't need to deal with homophobia etc. So it was understandable why Masumi reacted that way, given what happened to Touma, and Mami fails to understand that.

Mami's side:basically says that if Masumi doesn't share her feelings it's impossible for her to understand her. And the whole thing mami was shouting "I can't be the same it's impossible" something like that I think it was a way of saying like I can't become you so if you want me to know what you're going through you need to communicate. Masumi saying "we're not the same" makes it difficult for mami to reach out to her.

Mami said a lot of stuff I don't agree with but I'm happy Mami tried to understand genuinely Masumi's feelings, so I hope with this new development Masumi can see a friend in Mami and open up to her.

I'm glad they let their frustrations out and cried,they were needing that.

Jun 21, 2019 3:22 AM

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That fight was so emotional oh my god, one of the best panels I’ve ever read in my life. It was so beautifully done.
I’m sooo speechless with this manga lately, it has been a very interesting ride from the start, but holy cow these last chapters are sooooooo good

Jun 21, 2019 2:20 PM

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The bald dude and the dude with the headband continue to be infuriating and hypocritical, I really hope KAITO has some self-awareness and realizes that these characters have been in the wrong and addresses it, like I am really hoping he doesn’t seriously have characters saying shit like girl’s brains are smaller than boy’s or whatever and then just leaving it at that. I feel like he really does not understand what it’s like to be gay person, like at all, in many ways his approach to characters suffering from internalized homophobia is by saying they brought it on themselves or something like what Mami said this chapter. I was glad that she was genuinely trying to understand Masumi, though, and I think it will be good for Masumi to have someone she can open up to, and hopefully she can begin to stop feeling so ashamed and abnormal. I really like her and I can relate to her, and I really like Mami too. The previous chapter was quite literally painful to read, filled me with rage. I don’t like that Futaba and Taichi have said barely anything in the last 2 chapters. I really would like to see Taichi and Touma have an actual conversation with each other and end all this bs, bc there has been a whole load of bs happening in the recent chapters and it’s been kind of frustrating. I really, really hope that KAITO is thinking critically and will address some of the things characters did/said more critically because I can’t overstate how infuriating the last chapter was especially as a lesbian lol it was really painful to read. Aaaanyway, this chapter started to take things in a better direction (I hope) so I’ll stay tuned for next month.

As a side note, there’s a lot of like melodramatic and fake deep stuff in this manga that just really annoys me, it might be a matter of personal preference, but some of the things the characters say..... just shut up man. And just by nature of how it’s written and presented, the tone of the series just feels very dramatic, and imo, kind of overdramatic in a bad way when it doesn’t need to be. Buuuut that’s just me, I could see others enjoying those very aspects that I dislike.

Jun 21, 2019 2:25 PM

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alejandrina said:

stacithemess said:
Okay, let's discuss Masumi and Mami fight because I am confused!!!!!

yeah, this sums up a lot of what I thought abt this chapter & interpreted from their argument

Jun 22, 2019 3:47 AM

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youcansmileagain said:
The bald dude and the dude with the headband continue to be infuriating and hypocritical, I really hope KAITO has some self-awareness and realizes that these characters have been in the wrong and addresses it.

The previous chapter was quite literally painful to read, filled me with rage. I don’t like that Futaba and Taichi have said barely anything in the last 2 chapters. I really would like to see Taichi and Touma have an actual conversation with each other and end all this bs, bc there has been a whole load of bs happening in the recent chapters and it’s been kind of frustrating. I really, really hope that KAITO is thinking critically and will address some of the things characters did/said more critically because I can’t overstate how infuriating the last chapter was especially as a lesbian lol it was really painful to read. Aaaanyway, this chapter started to take things in a better direction (I hope) so I’ll stay tuned for next month.

Agreed. Also, it doesn't help that we're reading this once a month. If we were binge reading, the conversations, especially Shingo and Kensuke's wouldn't annoy me so much, because it would be like "ok, next!". So I hope KAITO pay off their "philosophical debates" later in the story, otherwise what was the point? It doesn't help either that Taichi doesn't fucking talk and we didn't see Touma in like 5 chapters??? But I feel like the way this chapter ended, with Futaba looking at the sharp thingy, we will get to see Touma and maybe Futaba talking to him.

Jun 22, 2019 3:47 AM

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Am I the only one who feels like this manga deserves more recognition?

yeah. I hope it gets an anime adaptation. That way it would bring more attention to it!

Jul 1, 2019 4:22 PM

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All I want to know is who the fuck spread the rumours if it wasn't anyone involved. Whose head is getting cut off.
Where is Touma? Is he safe? He must be feeling like shit while these other things are happening.
Cheering for Masumi.

Jul 17, 2019 10:07 AM

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Taichi should not choose between his friend and his girl friend. Glad those girl are talking things out

Mar 12, 2020 11:32 PM

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TsukuyomiREKT

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That comment on brains was a joke. I can't believe people actually got triggered by that. LOL. The bias is so real.

Aug 29, 2022 6:48 PM

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I feel like Mami should cut Masumi some slack. Japan is a very homophobic society, and it can be very damaging to grow up being told that your love is wrong and you should hide it. Even if you were never victim of discrimination, reading the headlines and seeing people make insensitive jokes is enough to make you feel like you don't belong.

Nov 13, 2023 2:25 PM

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I start to get tired of this too music philosophical thoughts. Danm, live your life and think less! The answer come when you count on it at least!

https://the-anime-odyssey.blogspot.com/

Feb 15, 2024 3:49 PM

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the ''fight'' of understanding between mami and masumi was beatifully written, i cried so much.

''Touch the darkness inside me''

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