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Mar 24, 2018 5:21 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Jiren vs Frezia and 17 in the series' finale...

A pretty intense battle tbh, more than I had expected. I'm actually impressed by the finale especially just how fast paced the action was. Hell, Goku gets involved again in the fight too after his big battle with Jiren last time.

About time the tournament is over. Grats to Universe 7!
It's been a hell of a ride.
Mar 24, 2018 5:26 PM
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I CANT BELIEVE 17 WON THE WHOLE THING HE ACTUALLY WON HE EVEN GOT THE FUCKING BOAT LMAO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
FREEZA AND GOKU AND 17 VS JIREN IS EPIC AS FUCK
SUPER HYPE SERIES, LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVIE AND ANOTHER SEQUEL DRAGON BALL ULTRA
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Mar 24, 2018 5:29 PM
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lol i did not expect Android 17 to be the last man standing and wish on the Super Dragon Balls

as expected the wish is to bring back all the universes back

Freeza got revived by Whis too lol
Mar 24, 2018 5:29 PM
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I loved this episode, I'm so sad though, since 2015, this show has uplifted me so much, will miss it, until we meet again hahah.
Mar 24, 2018 5:35 PM
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Well, that was the ending I predicted the very moment the arc stated its buildup.

Nevertheless, very entertaining ride.

To repeat my words from some other post:

World Building aside (which pleased me a bit), I would go with...

Movie recaps (yes, episodes 1-26 were "that") = 4/10
Super Tournament Arc = 6/10
Future Trunks Arc (if you cut the filler and the bullshit genkidama sword) = 8/10
Random minor filler things up to the last arc = 3/10
Tournament of Power Arc (it could have been less than this because of the bullshit ex machinas and nakama/love power + inconsistencies in general, but it was pure fun all the way through) = 7/10

Overall, 3rd, 4th and final arcs were at least entertaining enough to have me all the way enjoy in pure guilty pleasure some crazy mindless action and at times, some actually well thought twists here and there.

Super still was way better than that fanfic level of writing in GT at the very least, so that's that.

I'll probably go with a 6+/10 (can't decide if 6 or 7/10 on MAL), mostly for entertainment reasons.
The manga is waaay better and much more consistent however, and I'd recommend everyone to check it out. It actually makes sense and has a very minimum of bullshit in it (much like the original work).

That teasing for the movie at the end leaves me looking forward to it.

Other than that, it seems we gonna see more of Freeza soon enough (interesting that he got to be resurrected).
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Mar 24, 2018 5:47 PM
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For those who don't speak japanese and was confused by the grand priest dialogue:

He was saying that Zeno (may have) predicted that the victor would wish for all the other universes to be wished back. Zeno priorly decided that that was the only wish that'd be allowed to be granted, and had the victor wished for something 'selfish, 'Zeno would have wiped out the last universe as well.

source - https://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/86x0a8/sub_dragon_ball_super_episode_131_discussion/dw8iwhl/

holy shit i got more respect for Zeno now

EDIT:

Shin thinks 17's wish was unexpected, but in fact the Omni-Kings predicted that the winner would be someone moral enough to consider the other universes. They intended to wipe everything out if the winner had made a selfish wish.
source - https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/977709380693983232
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Mar 24, 2018 6:01 PM
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I'm glad. It's over. Well, nothing to complain. Just I strongly recommend you to not even start watching this cashgrab if you are new. 2/5 for the episode. 2/10 for the anime.
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Mar 24, 2018 6:04 PM
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Goku says in the last scene that he can't activate Ultra Instinct at will; it looks like it only happens on its own, like when he was in trouble at the tournament. So Vegeta vows to obtain power even greater than that.
source - https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/977709917481025536

lol that means Goku will still use Super Saiyan form for a long time
Mar 24, 2018 6:08 PM
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Even if it was rushed, it ended pretty well. The battle was great and Ishitani had a pretty great direction in her debut as episode director. I'm surprised by 17 winning, a thing that I would never expect to see him like that or even standing in the finalists lol

The universes being whished back was expected but I didn't expect for Zeno to know that someone would ask for it and if they didn't, they would erase the last universe. Pretty good.

Goku not being able to use UI is also interesting and Freeza being alive again is also interesting too so I can't wait to see how these things will wrap in the future movie. I'm really curious.

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I'm glad. It's over. Well, nothing to complain. Just I strongly recommend you to not even start watching this cashgrab if you are new. 2/5 for the episode. 2/10 for the anime.


It's not a "crashgrab" and there's plenty of people working their ass to put episodes out and for this anime to exist in different capabilities. You can dislike it if you want but don't begin with shit like that.
Mar 24, 2018 6:21 PM

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Even if it was rushed, it ended pretty well. The battle was great and Ishitani had a pretty great direction in her debut as episode director. I'm surprised by 17 winning, a thing that I would never expect to see him like that or even standing in the finalists lol

The universes being whished back was expected but I didn't expect for Zeno to know that someone would ask for it and if they didn't, they would erase the last universe. Pretty good.

Goku not being able to use UI is also interesting and Freeza being alive again is also interesting too so I can't wait to see how these things will wrap in the future movie. I'm really curious.

Burguburu said:
I'm glad. It's over. Well, nothing to complain. Just I strongly recommend you to not even start watching this cashgrab if you are new. 2/5 for the episode. 2/10 for the anime.


It's not a "crashgrab" and there's plenty of people working their ass to put episodes out and for this anime to exist in different capabilities. You can dislike it if you want but don't begin with shit like that.


I'm not the only one that thinks that. Is 'cashgrab' not crashgrab lol. Dragon Ball Super is just Dragon Ball AF being canon. I can't take you seriously, sorry! :(
NurguburuMar 24, 2018 6:32 PM
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Mar 24, 2018 6:27 PM
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Not bad. Although I have two problems plot-wise. (beacuse I like to complain:) )


One ( it includes whole arc not just this episode): can someone please tell WHAT exactly was Frieza plan in the tournament, beacuse we got hints over and over that he's planning something and the result is...zero? This I could forgive if it was mentioned only in ep. 95, but during the actual tournament they reminded us in every Frieza episode and we get nothing?WTF?!

Second: why exactly Frost is back? If I understood correctly 17 wished for erased UNIVERSES to be brought back. Frost was erased SEPARATELY from his universe so the wish shouldn't inculde him.
Mar 24, 2018 6:38 PM

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So Zen-chan is smarter than he looks lmao. I'm amazed they actually managed to end it this well. 17 MVP got his boat lol. The last scene with Goku and Vegeta striking those poses was pretty awesome and nostalgic.
Mar 24, 2018 6:40 PM

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Hory shiet,that was pretty amazing. And to make it even more amazing,ma boy 17 won. Considering that he was thought dead until last episode,this is quite the comeback to say the least. Well, in general,I think we all can agree that he was pretty much the surprise of the entire tournament and after this episode no one can deny that he's without a doubt the damn MVP.

Also fucking lol that they brought back Frieza,but a word is word and that man worked his ass off too. Loved the sense of comradeship with him,Goku and the others.

Dragon Ball Super had a lot of issues,with the Black arc at it lowest point,however, the tournament arc redeemed this series for me and in terms of raw hype it was absolute max at certain scenes,even surpassing current powerhouses such as BNHA tbqh.

Production values varied from garbo to top,but they were always good when it counted,so I'm fine with them in the end.

Also dat nostalgic bomb




5/5 For this episode and all in all 6/10,this will be dearly missed,hope for more in the future.

Edit: Pretty cool that this got my 600th completion.
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Mar 24, 2018 6:40 PM

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So Zen-chan is smarter than he looks lmao. I'm amazed they actually managed to end it this well. 17 MVP got his boat lol. The last scene with Goku and Vegeta striking those poses was pretty awesome and nostalgic.
I bet he does this every generation. Only angels are aware of this
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Mar 24, 2018 6:43 PM
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Mar 24, 2018 6:46 PM

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well, it was the end I expected
Mar 24, 2018 6:48 PM

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Honestly that was a perfect finale. No better way to end DBS. And 17 continues to be the best character of this series.

The Goku and Frieza vs Jiren parts were choreographed so amazingly. I got hyped when Goku went SSJ cause I hadn't seen it in ages.
I felt for Jiren too kinda, but his character still needs a lot of work. I found Toppos speech cringy as hell though.
Feel glad for the wish. Nice to see Champa and gang back.

Overall I'll give DBS a 7 out of 10. I loved the Goku vs Vegeta positions reference in comparison with the first battle they had in the Saiyan arc.
Mar 24, 2018 6:49 PM

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Super was a decent squeal to DBZ. Kind of lame they brought everyone back at the end.
Mar 24, 2018 6:54 PM

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LOL I still had the little hope that they will revive Planet Vegeta and start an amazing arc with saiyans. (I don't remember where I read or saw that)

7/10
Mar 24, 2018 6:55 PM

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It's been a long run, but Dragon Ball Super is finally over

Enjoyed the finale and looking forward to more dragon ball in the future







Mar 24, 2018 6:56 PM

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I didn't expect Frieza and Goku to team up and eliminate Jiren. Also wasn't expecting Android 17 to be the last man standing. Bringing back all of the universes was predictable, really. Admittely I wasn't expecting Whis to ressurect Frieza. So Frieza's completely on the loose now. I wonder if he's going to be in the upcoming movie. I like the callback to the Saiyan Saga.

Farewell Super. Despite your flaws, I still find you enjoyable to watch.
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Mar 24, 2018 6:57 PM

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Of course they had to go and bring back everyone. No one stays dead in this show.

Seeing Freeza and Goku fight together was really cool. I didn't expect 17 to be the last one standing. It was also nice to see Whish just resurrecting Freeza.

I'm a bit sad that the show ended though.
Mar 24, 2018 6:59 PM

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I cried a little in this final lol, its been a fun ride huh

Looking forward to dragon ball super duper
Mar 24, 2018 7:01 PM
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While the ending might have been a bit predictable, it was a great ending to a great series. Can’t wait to see what they do next!
Mar 24, 2018 7:02 PM

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I was expecting the ending to be a reanimation of End of Z, but it wasn't... So I guess they will still keep the End of Z as the "cannon ending", and so the new season next year after the movie should still be inside the timeframe until Goku's departure with Uub.

Thanks for the ride!
Mar 24, 2018 7:03 PM

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Burguburu said:
caio_ken said:
Even if it was rushed, it ended pretty well. The battle was great and Ishitani had a pretty great direction in her debut as episode director. I'm surprised by 17 winning, a thing that I would never expect to see him like that or even standing in the finalists lol

The universes being whished back was expected but I didn't expect for Zeno to know that someone would ask for it and if they didn't, they would erase the last universe. Pretty good.

Goku not being able to use UI is also interesting and Freeza being alive again is also interesting too so I can't wait to see how these things will wrap in the future movie. I'm really curious.



It's not a "crashgrab" and there's plenty of people working their ass to put episodes out and for this anime to exist in different capabilities. You can dislike it if you want but don't begin with shit like that.


I'm not the only one that thinks that. Is 'cashgrab' not crashgrab lol. Dragon Ball Super is just Dragon Ball AF being canon. I can't take you seriously, sorry! :(

And you think that I can take a person like you who say thinks like that seriously? I can't.
Mar 24, 2018 7:03 PM

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was a great way of ending things for now, that final battle and finish was amazing!

now to wait for the movie and for super to come back after the movie some time next year which im sure is gonna happen

but for now wanna see how they make things better in the manga version of this arc its already off to an great start
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Mar 24, 2018 7:04 PM

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Ending was lackluster and predictable. It was a great concept, but poorly executed. Hopefully the new movie is better. 7.8 Too Much Water
Mar 24, 2018 7:06 PM

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I actually really like the fight this week, even more than last week's. There is a charm to it when Goku Freiza and 17 fight that desperately together, which is what this arc about universe survival lacked. Janky power scaling aside, seeing Goku and Freiza team up is certainly refreshing.



Not sure why the grand priest asked 17 for wish when it was previously stated "the one who performed the best gets the wish." I mean, sure, 17 did great, but Goku should be the best performer.


Predictable wish and ending. 17 talked to the grand priest quite casually lol.




Now I am even more curious about the super dragon ball's creator. He must be fairly high in the god's rank if his creation could revive universes that Zeno himself erased. Also, I wonder are the 6 previously erased universes also back because of the wish.
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That was a pretty cool episode. Who would have imagined seeing 17 as the last man standing. That Jiren vs 17 fight was pretty impressive, 17 traps Jiren with his barrier and blasts him so he gets the full impact. Then Jiren dropping to his knees and accepting his loss until Toppo motivates him to get back in the match.
When Jiren accepts his fate


Zenos are so savage, even if another universe had won and made a selfish wish their universe would have been deleted. I thought that was interesting to hear.
And the universes were restored as well.
Jiren goes from not talking at all to having a conversation with Toppo and others. I kind of liked silent Jiren a bit more.

I'm surprised Frieza was brought back. Now the question is what does Frieza plan on doing. Laying low or Supernovaing planets.
So overall it was a fun run. I generally had a fun time watching this show. I'll give it an 8/10.

Mar 24, 2018 7:13 PM

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I still think this series was a fun ride to the end. The wish was somewhat obvious in fact. Many have speculated and was on point. Anyways even though it has its' issues along with its' pulls coming from nowhere. It still had it's moments where it was still entertaining for fans in general.
Mar 24, 2018 7:22 PM
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It is said that Zeno erased six universes prior to these 12... I guess the mortals in those 6 universes must have made a selfish wish; but luckily mortals can change.

DBS anime 7/10

Tournament of Power > Super Tournament > Movies > Future Trunks Arc
Mar 24, 2018 7:23 PM

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I like it!!! Now i want more!
Mar 24, 2018 7:24 PM
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Goosebumps shit!
Mar 24, 2018 7:25 PM

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It's good to see Frieza and Goku fighting together against Jiren, and the wish was what we all expected at the beginning.
There were many inconsistencies (way too many tbh xD) throughout the series but it's been fun overall. Now waiting for the movie!
Mar 24, 2018 7:29 PM
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And so ends the ride known as Dragon Ball Super. That tag team from Goku and Frieza was epic. Must have watched that scene like ten times. I'm definitely going to miss this show, and I'm looking forward to the movie.
Mar 24, 2018 7:30 PM

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A bit disappointing that they haven't showed Vegeta visiting Universe's 6 sayan planet.
Mar 24, 2018 7:34 PM

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meh..

is the best way to describe this season..
Mar 24, 2018 7:35 PM
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UImoetard said:


Not sure why the grand priest asked 17 for wish when it was previously stated "the one who performed the best gets the wish." I mean, sure, 17 did great, but Goku should be the best performer.

Now I am even more curious about the super dragon ball's creator. He must be fairly high in the god's rank if his creation could revive universes that Zeno himself erased. Also, I wonder are the 6 previously erased universes also back because of the wish.


It was previously stated that the winner of the tournament (i.e. the person who didn't get knocked out) is the one who gets to make a wish.

The super dragon ball's creator IS Zeno himself... the King of ALL! There is no God higher than Zero, he is the God of Gods, the Omni King.
Mar 24, 2018 7:39 PM

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Congrats Super, you stayed true to your shitty name till the very end. This ending couldn't have been any more predictable. Good riddance you piece of stinking shit. 1/10.
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Mar 24, 2018 7:45 PM

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Good episode! Android 17 is the MVP of the tournament.
Everyone saw the universes being wished back.

It’s been a fun ride.
Mar 24, 2018 7:46 PM

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Honestly, I can't say I'll miss it. Tournaments (most of this series) are just really lazy, IMO. Doesn't help that the animation was extremely low quality a large % of the time. Predictable but good ending, so that's a positive. And the characters are still awesome even if some of them contradict their old personalities a lot
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Congrats Super, you stayed true to your shitty name till the very end. This ending couldn't have been any more predictable. Good riddance you piece of stinking shit. 1/10.


It really must suck being you.
Mar 24, 2018 7:50 PM

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It really must suck being you.
Right back at you m8.
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Mar 24, 2018 7:59 PM
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They gave a good detail to put scenes of what happened with everyone so as not to have to use the voice of Bulma because the actress passed away, that detail is quite good.
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Congrats Super, you stayed true to your shitty name till the very end. This ending couldn't have been any more predictable. Good riddance you piece of stinking shit. 1/10.


Yes, I'm sure that you predicted 17 winning, Freeza/Goku beating Jiren in a suicide attack and Zeno erasing the universes if the wish was selfish. lol
Mar 24, 2018 8:02 PM

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Didn’t enjoy the series overall but this was a nice ending

caio_ken said:
joe_g7 said:
Congrats Super, you stayed true to your shitty name till the very end. This ending couldn't have been any more predictable. Good riddance you piece of stinking shit. 1/10.


Yes, I'm sure that you predicted 17 winning, Freeza/Goku beating Jiren in a suicide attack and Zeno erasing the universes if the wish was selfish. lol

Pretty sure he was referring to the outcome of the tournament which was reviving the other universes. But hey, just a guess.
Mar 24, 2018 8:03 PM

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Goku probably lying that he can't activate Ultra Instinct anymore, like he always does to Vegeta. He never wants to admit he's ahead of him, and Vegeta never wants to admit he's behind him.

Tournament of Power alone made this a 10/10.
Mar 24, 2018 8:06 PM

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What a finale, it felt too short xD 17 IS THE MVP OF THE TOURNAMENT AND THE WHOLE SERIES!

And well... This finally came to an end... It's been a fun ride, certainly not one of the greatest animes ever but I enjoyed it ^^

7/10 is my final score :)
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Amazing last episode!!!

It was worth getting up at 3 to watch it.

I don't think anyone expected No.17 to be the last man standing. Their final fight was top-notch.

The wish was really obvious. Duuuuh... I'm still satisfied.
We also learnt that Zen-Oh actually didn't want to erase weaker universes. He just wanted to have some fun, I guess? Frost is not back, though..? Didn't look for him. I'll rewatch it later.

So angels are capable of resurrecting anyone. Now Frieza is back.
I wonder if the other erased universes were brought back too, "by accident".

I'm glad it said at the end that Dragon Ball is coming back after a "brief break".
I suppose the movie comes out, then around april in the next year we'll see the new Dragon Ball series.



Overall, I think I am much more satisfied with the series, than the majority of the series. It did have errors, weird things, but I mostly just laughed at those things. For me, it was a great series, and I am looking forward to the next series.
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