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Mech4nicMar 12, 2016 4:40 PM
| Translations for last few panels were WAY off (I can read Japanese and Chinese) - What he really monologues in the last few panels is that Just like Hide, for the sake of someone else he wants to die in a cool manner. |
eneri said: Translations for last few panels were WAY off (I can read Japanese and Chinese) - What he really monologues in the last few panels is that Just like Hide, for the sake of someone else he wants to die in a cool manner. Although every scanlation group makes mistakes once in a while. |
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| -More Furuta and Eto. Furuta turned out real petty this time around, he killed Shiono and brought him in a bento for Eto to eat. He somehow knows that he was wiretapped. Eto is seemingly sad that Shiono got killed and/or because her plan failed. Atleast her death flag seemingly fell. That ass though. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) -Furuta came rushing to find out what's going on, as if he doesn't know. We've found out the layout of Cochlea and what kind of ghoul is where. Kaneki casually walking around opening cells. Ayato and his crew have arrived. Kaneki is still not killing humans it seems, he's just throwing them around and disarming them. He seems to be scared shitless of Arima. Judging by the floor that Hinami is located at, she's an SS rated ghoul. -Narukami™ almost roasted Ayato, he got bailed by some mook. Anyway.....so yeah....he's pretty much fucked. -That flashback....I don't think that it's a good judge of what happened because what Hide said is different from the original, and, well....Kaneki is sort of insane. If anything, the chances of Hide being alive just dropped dramatically. >_> <_< HINAMI!!!!! Been waiting for this for a long time. Got to save the precious one. >inb4 they run into Mougan and Aura So yeah, nice chapter but I was expecting Kaneki to go into a rampage considering that insane gaze he had at the ending of the last chapter. Next chapter will probably flip to Rueshima, I think. |
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Kvothe51 said: eneri said: Translations for last few panels were WAY off (I can read Japanese and Chinese) - What he really monologues in the last few panels is that Just like Hide, for the sake of someone else he wants to die in a cool manner. Although every scanlation group makes mistakes once in a while. I understand, but I feel like this is an absolutely glaring mistake that changes the entirety of the chapter.. not just weird phrasings. Especially when you understand the raws and seeing it absolutely missing the point >.< |
Mech4nic said: THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- "For someone else's sake, I would lay down my life..." Just... no comments. He actually says "Hide, just like you.. for the sake of someone else (in a cool way), I would risk my life (will die)" Doing an Urie monologue basically (which was not translated) |
| So Ken did indeed eat Hide? Hope so since I'm tired of theories of Hide being the true OEK. On other news, great to actually see Ken taking action in saving Hinami, but I anticipate his plan to leave from Colchea to be a good/thorough one considering he's had 6 months to plan for this. |
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Nuvviveji said: So yeah, nice chapter but I was expecting Kaneki to go into a rampage That is still very likely to happen, he hasn't even ran into anyone to fight yet. I just hope when they're escaping he doesn't join up with Ayato and try to help.. because like you said he was scared shitless of Arima, it wouldn't make any sense for him to try to escape in his direction. |
| Great chapter, everyone should've seen the Hinami rescue from a mile away. And I'm not even remotely displeased about it! It may be too much to hope for, but it'd be great if the Anteiku crew got involved somehow. It'd go along well with the mirroring that Ishida-sensei's been doing with this second season. We saw Amon, and considering he's not been with Aogiri, who else could've shown him the ropes aside from the :re crew (Oh god, I just got a mental image of him working as a waiter at the shop...). So now to Ayato + Kaneki (+Eto?) vs. Arima. Despite him confidently kicking Eto's ass, Arima still scares the ever loving shit out of him. That's saying something. C'mon Kaneki, time to face that trauma. PalpableDespair5 said: So Ken did indeed eat Hide? Hope so since I'm tired of theories of Hide being the true OEK. On other news, great to actually see Ken taking action in saving Hinami, but I anticipate his plan to leave from Colchea to be a good/thorough one considering he's had 6 months to plan for this. Regarding this, was Tokyo Ghoul Root considered canon? I recall reading somewhere that Ishida took part in the plot and that it was essentially a parallel universe approach to the plot but that the important facts remained the same (Which would include Hide's death). Can anyone that follows actual Japanese news confirm this? |
| I literally got goosebumps from that last page. |
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| But does this mean Hide is actually dead or is definitely not dead. Because on one hand of course he is, but on the other, that's way too obvious. Also, we haven't seen him die. Or Kaneki's answer. Also, given Kaneki-Amon, Kaneki is unreliable af. ...Also, Gasmask, which I think has been mentioned, is really suspicious? I mean. I am hypothesizing. Tentatively. I guess it'll become clear. Also, Furuta you shit. Eto is actually down. Wow. |
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RNoir said: Regarding this, was Tokyo Ghoul Root considered canon? I recall reading somewhere that Ishida took part in the plot and that it was essentially a parallel universe approach to the plot but that the important facts remained the same (Which would include Hide's death). Can anyone that follows actual Japanese news confirm this? Root a is considered an alternative route to the turn of events that occur during the second half of TG. Also, yes Ishida played an influential role in the making of it. Unfortunately, the studio in charge of the production skipped over many interesting events that took place in Ishida's initial draft for the show. I forgot where I saw the drafts, but I'm sure you can search them up to see what the anime missed... |
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| Oh, please. Self-sacrifice? To hell with that, just live how you want to live. And Kaneki, will you ever stop trying to imitate someone? Hide apparently really is dead, but I'd really like if Ken was his own, yet unshown self, if he even has a clearly defined personality that can be called "the true Kaneki", or maybe that imitation is a core part of his being. While Ken switched the groove from Arima to Hide (and Urie, which wasn't translated), the White Reaper himself decided to enter in the usual badass way. I really wouldn't mind if Ayato got wrecked, which he should be - if he actually poses a threat to a guy who has proven time and time again he is the boss of this manga without breaking a sweat... well, I'm sure he won't. Eto seeing her editor made into a french meat paste was, from what most of us assume, saddening even for her. I'm really glad the black ray of hope shined upon Hinami at last. Aww, even I kinda felt fuzzy. 5/5 RNoir said: Regarding this, was Tokyo Ghoul Root considered canon? Root A isn't and never was canon. |
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| Very good and interesting chapter, Furuta always seems to be one step ahead of everyone's plans. And could Ayato be anymore screwed? Was predicting a solid 2 weeks of rampaging Kaneki but we immediately go to Hinami which isn't necessarily a bad thing. The feels were real for those last two panels, if Hinami doesn't make it out of this arc alive I'll be devastated. I'm more excited for a Kaneki vs Furuta than a Kaneki vs Arima, mostly to see how Kaneki will respond now that he has confirmation on Furuta's dealings with the steel beams. |
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GodofWar2015 said: Maledict said: Oh, please. Self-sacrifice? To hell with that, just live how you want to live. And Kaneki, will you ever stop trying to imitate someone? Hide apparently really is dead, but I'd really like if Ken was his own, yet unshown self, if he even has a clearly defined personality that can be called "the true Kaneki", or maybe that imitation is a core part of his being. While Ken switched the groove from Arima to Hide (and Urie, which wasn't translated), the White Reaper himself decided to enter in the usual badass way. I really wouldn't mind if Ayato got wrecked, which he should be - if he actually poses a threat to a guy who has proven time and time again he is the boss of this manga without breaking a sweat... well, I'm sure he won't. Eto seeing her editor made into a french meat paste was, from what most of us assume, saddening even for her. I'm really glad the black ray of hope shined upon Hinami at last. Aww, even I kinda felt fuzzy. 5/5 Root A isn't and never was canon. You haven't read this manga, have you? So far this is the truest version of Kaneki. Him saving his friends is what he always did. If anything he is closest to what he should be like and that is pretty damn good, considering how he was treated in the past. Sadly, people assume so much because they can't understand his life. IIRC it was basically explained that in pt.1 Kaneki mostly went back just to give himself the self gratification and he's doing the same here, and Kaneki pt.1 wasn't really his "true self" as we saw. Though I've always been of mind that all these personalities make up his "true self" per say. But fundamentally Kaneki's motive haven't changed much. |
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| oh man you gotta be kiddin me, right? hide cant be dead, right? HOLY FUCKıNG SHIT |
| EustassKiddo ! |
| Furuta sure like to fuck with Eto, I'm sure if anyone gonna kill him its gotta be her. |
| Those 2 pages of Hinami and Kaneki were just tooo beautiful. Ken's smile was FEEELZ T^T And so was Hinami's crying face :*( I can't help but get these bad vibes tho. She could still escape and die while she's on her way out. That's why I really want the :re member to appear too. That'll let me feel a bit more relaxed since those guys have stronger plot armor :P Hide finally reappearing even as a flashback was awesome!! Shows u how much Ishida's art improved. DAMN. The context of that scene definitely implies he actually ate him but I still won't believe it man. Nope nope nope And Ayato, oh Ayato, I really feel bad for the guy. First he gets Hinami cucked from him by her oniichan then he faces Arima. RIP Furuta knowing about the wiretapping was lol Plz Ishida don't troll me with my cute Hina-chan D: |
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| Hide is not dead. It seems some here have forgotten the book that was left at the Chateau as a birthday gift for Haise / Ken in Chapter 31.5 PalpableDespair5 said: RNoir said: Regarding this, was Tokyo Ghoul Root considered canon? I recall reading somewhere that Ishida took part in the plot and that it was essentially a parallel universe approach to the plot but that the important facts remained the same (Which would include Hide's death). Can anyone that follows actual Japanese news confirm this? Root a is considered an alternative route to the turn of events that occur during the second half of TG. Also, yes Ishida played an influential role in the making of it. Unfortunately, the studio in charge of the production skipped over many interesting events that took place in Ishida's initial draft for the show. I forgot where I saw the drafts, but I'm sure you can search them up to see what the anime missed... I would not say he played an essential role when the studio ruled out so much of the amazing draft that he did and yet the studio has changed so much... Some people may have enjoyed of the "Root A", but in my view, despite the studio Pierrot have discarded much of Ishida's draft by probably are unable to fit everything into 12 episodes, they did a very bad job in much of the anime. |
haunter_exMar 12, 2016 11:23 PM
| You fluffs do realize that if Hide was really supposed to be dead, Ishida would have just shown Kaneki eating him. That's like what every author ever does and then we'll have Hide show up and everyone would be like "Man, fucking Hide is alive"... of course he's fucking alive. I thought Ishida is better than this. Anyway, this was a great chapter. If we ignore the absolutely atrocious writing. |
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| Damn, this was one hell of a chapter. The beginning was fantastic as it showed us how despite being so composed & cocksure, Furuta does get spiteful; then there's the Eto scene where it seems she's somewhat dejected. Very good stuff! Arima's entrance was savage af. Hopefully Amon drops down and they punch-on. Shit. Now I'm dejected knowing Hide might actually be dead. But fuck it! That last page -- that last panel -- that was b-e-a-utiful. 5/5 (Hopefully MS upload there's tomorrow.) |
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| I still don't want to believe Hide is dead. I don't care, in one of the last chapters he is gonna appear right before Kaneki dies and its gonna be all emotional! |
| Karma must be a woman, men just can't be that bitchy. |
| rip kaneki, and yeah actually hide is alive, he gave the book to Kaneki anyway awesome chapter |
BluePantsu said: And we know for sure that he gave the book to Kaneki because?rip kaneki, and yeah actually hide is alive, he gave the book to Kaneki anyway awesome chapter |
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| Wasn't Hide number 86? ʕ╭ರᴥ•́ʔ |
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| I will kill someone if Hinami dies |
| This chapter makes me wonder if Hide is even a human in the first place. Lets look at order of events a bit: *Kaneki ate him *Lost consciousness *Woke up and there wasn't any traces of Hide *We know hide is alive because of the book Haise received. So in order to satisfy his hunger Kaneki must have eaten quite a bit of Hide, but I doubt that he could have eaten him whole with clothes and bones etc. That means wounded Hide somehow managed to escape without anyone noticing. Just how? |
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| It's nice and all that Ishida is trying to make a MC out of psycho Eto, but she turned Shinohara into a potato and cut off his leg.She is irredeemable. |
Truth4LiesMar 13, 2016 4:17 AM
Unionoob said: but v14 took place 2 years earlier than touka going to the hospital, so unless hide stayed there for 2 years and touka kept getting him flowers, I think it's someone elsePalpableDespair5 said: So Ken did indeed eat Hide? Hope so since I'm tired of theories of Hide being the true OEK. On other news, great to actually see Ken taking action in saving Hinami, but I anticipate his plan to leave from Colchea to be a good/thorough one considering he's had 6 months to plan for this. Maybe hs is dead but Touka did visit someone in hospital at the beginning. And we don't know who was it and pretty sure that wasn't Ghoul. |
| So many badass panels in this one. |
| uh oh! |
| Damn where did you all read it translated, is anyone able to provide a link? |
Truth4Lies said: It's nice and all that Ishida is trying to make a MC out of psycho Eto, but she turned Shinohara into a potato and cut off his leg.She is irredeemable. I don't think Eto is trying to redeem herself, as far I she is concern, she is doing the right thing all along. She's one of the most dangerous ghoul that ever lived, she have killed more investigators(like Akira's Mom,Urie's father and etc..) than she could bother to count and you think what she did to Shinohara is what make her irredeemable. Lmao |
Danae said: Damn where did you all read it translated, is anyone able to provide a link? http://helveticascans.weebly.com/tgre.html Raz1515 said: but v14 took place 2 years earlier than touka going to the hospital, so unless hide stayed there for 2 years and touka kept getting him flowers, I think it's someone else I read that it was likely Nishio's girlfriend that got caught up in Torso's escapades since she fits his MO. This explains why Serpant was after Torso. |
| oh kaneki you glorious bastard,you finally saved hinami.Ayato seems like he in pretty deep shit now that arimas turned up.I swear to god if anything happens to hinami now ill be the one going on a rampage(as well as kaneki).Im curious what his plan is after this like is he gonna take hinami back to touka and the others because i cant see him letting her go back to aogiri with all the fighting going on(give me a tohka-ken reunion!!) |
| So Kaneki ate Hide, and as expected he was planning to save Hinami. Can't wait to see more: The fight between Arima and Ayato, the reunion of Banjo, Hinami and Kaneki. |
| I'm glad Kaneki saved Hinami |
| Here is our awesome Kaneki finally! Great to see he still cares abut his loved ones, but also being someone who is now okay with killing the jerks who forced him into this tragedy. The feels were real and i really hope he can save her. Ayato facing death that soon, poor poor dude.. |
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| Ayato having to deal with Arima... i wonder if he'll survive this situation somehow |
| just because I’ve gotten weaker, doesn’t mean that you got stronger, does it? |
| @RNoir thanks very much! My god Arima looking seriously intimidating there.. Ayato is in deep shit right now. Some major feels in this chapter, but I am glad that Ken has been thinking dearly of Hinami and Hide all this time. Furthermore I still have this faintest hope that Hide isn't really dead, that would be seriously depressing even for TG standards. |
GodofWar2015 said: You haven't read this manga, have you? So far this is the truest version of Kaneki. Him saving his friends is what he always did. If anything he is closest to what he should be like and that is pretty damn good, considering how he was treated in the past. Sadly, people assume so much because they can't understand his life. You wish. Did you miss the part where Hide explains he always felt like that was just a mask Kaneki wears and never really was his true self? Chapter 53 basically confirmed it anyway. Lol, him saving his friends and being selfless was only a way to try and not be alone and, as someone already said, to give himself self-gratification. Don't know whether you're talking about Anteiku Kaneki or White Haired Kaneki, but you're wrong in both cases, especially on the latter, as that was just some of Jason and Anteiku Kaneki mixed in one. |
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| Sooo, Hide is dead? |
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| - Probably Furuta let Eto record the conversation on purpose. I mean, they made a deal to "show" Kaneki who Furuta was because Kaneki wasn't believing her. - If Ayato dies I'll drop this manga (please Ishida, make he become as plot armor as Reiner from AOT) - Kaneki: The King of Fakes. He has imitated Tsukiyama, Rize, Yamori, Arima, Eto and now Hide. He likes imitating ghouls huh. - I don't want Hide dead. - Kaneki rescued Hinami! magnifico! Looking foward to Amon showing up and making the real Kaneki "appear"; |
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