| I have to disagree. It's refreshing to see a show that doesn't play the "childhood friends" angle. It's a bit tiring seeing it used everywhere. You should probably keep watching anyway, as maybe the conclusions you have drawn may not be the true conclusions. |
VersoSciolto said: Ryothatic said: I have to disagree. It's refreshing to see a show that doesn't play the "childhood friends" angle. It's a bit tiring seeing it used everywhere. You should probably keep watching anyway, as maybe the conclusions you have drawn may not be the true conclusions. I agree with your encouragement to keep watching but ... You're right... |
| See this is the thing that kinda puts me off about yuri fans. They either forget what kids are like at this age or they are kids that age who can't distinguish the difference between infatuation and love. Girls at that age range fall in and out of love pretty easy. The best looking guys and girls always were popular with both genders. The top athletes were as well. Those who excel or are on a higher level than others are always well liked. Same thing as what we see in most school yuri shows except almost always they are either in an all girls school (Aoi Hana, Maria Holic, Strawberry panic) or the guys in the show are background characters like (Sakura Trick. Yuru Yuri). Too Often I see Yuri Fans come in with the impression these relationships are more than they are. I'm at an all girls school I admire the person who is the best at __. |
pjburton said: I've butted heads with you before. You seem to have some kind of beef with yuri, though I don't really understand why. You also seem to have some impression that teenagers cannot understand the concept of love, which isn't necessarily true either. Something tells me you base your view of teenagers around how mainstream media portrays them to be.See this is the thing that kinda puts me off about yuri fans. They either forget what kids are like at this age or they are kids that age who can't distinguish the difference between infatuation and love. Girls at that age range fall in and out of love pretty easy. The best looking guys and girls always were popular with both genders. The top athletes were as well. Those who excel or are on a higher level than others are always well liked. Same thing as what we see in most school yuri shows except almost always they are either in an all girls school (Aoi Hana, Maria Holic, Strawberry panic) or the guys in the show are background characters like (Sakura Trick. Yuru Yuri). Too Often I see Yuri Fans come in with the impression these relationships are more than they are. I'm at an all girls school I admire the person who is the best at __. In any case, Aoi Hana explores love between girls. You can't interpret these relationships to mean more than they are because its explicitly stated. No matter what your opinion is, this is the objective fact. |
RyothaticJan 3, 2016 4:23 PM
Ryothatic said: [ I've butted heads with you before. You seem to have some kind of beef with yuri, though I don't really understand why. You also seem to have some impression that teenagers cannot understand the concept of love, which isn't necessarily true either. Something tells me you base your view of teenagers around how mainstream media portrays them to be. In any case, Aoi Hana explores love between girls. You can't interpret these relationships to mean more than they are because its explicitly stated. No matter what your opinion is, this is the objective fact. I have no beef with yuri at all. I'm simply pointing out how these stories really are. Aoi Hana is not about love between girls. it's more than that I guess you can't see the complexity behind the story. I am interpreting these stories as they are written. And no you are very naive if you think teenage girls know what true love is. You are looking for this show to focus on yuri things. When it's about innocent first loves, and what real loves are. You want them to end up together I am betting right now Kyouko ends up with Kyou. And A Chan doesn't end up with Fumi. |
pjburton said: You're presenting your own interpretation as fact. How you interpret it doesn't change the objective facts, and Aoi Hana focuses on girl's love in a realistic fashion. Yuri doesn't mean girls have to be fucking 24/7, it simply means that a show has an element where a girl expresses romantic interest towards girls. This is what this show encapsulates. And, while not in the anime do Akira and Fumi end up together, in the manga they do. The only reason they don't in the anime is because the manga hadn't ended yet.Ryothatic said: [ I've butted heads with you before. You seem to have some kind of beef with yuri, though I don't really understand why. You also seem to have some impression that teenagers cannot understand the concept of love, which isn't necessarily true either. Something tells me you base your view of teenagers around how mainstream media portrays them to be. In any case, Aoi Hana explores love between girls. You can't interpret these relationships to mean more than they are because its explicitly stated. No matter what your opinion is, this is the objective fact. I have no beef with yuri at all. I'm simply pointing out how these stories really are. Aoi Hana is not about love between girls. it's more than that I guess you can't see the complexity behind the story. I am interpreting these stories as they are written. And no you are very naive if you think teenage girls know what true love is. You are looking for this show to focus on yuri things. When it's about innocent first loves, and what real loves are. You want them to end up together I am betting right now Kyouko ends up with Kyou. And A Chan doesn't end up with Fumi. Real love knows no bounds. You can't define what love is to someone. First loves are just as real and important as your "real loves". I don't understand why you don't like the fact that teenagers can express love, but they can. I am one. I can express love. People meet others in high school and spend the rest of their lives together. |
RyothaticJan 3, 2016 6:35 PM
Ryothatic said: I haven't read the manga yet and I can't see them ending up together. You are correct on your definition of yuri however you are twisting your own definition to define this show. Yes, there are girl gril relationships that is a very minute aspect of the show. ALso, my basis for teen girls is based on me having seen them first hand did you not go to high school? However from what I get you like many other yuri fans prioritize yuri as the important aspect of the story which I do not. I see it as I would any other relationship in a story. It's similar to any straight story in that aspect. You are wanting a story like Kimi Koi Limit. When I see shows like Aoi Hana I put it in the same boat I would a show like Kimi no todoke. It's not just a romance story it's a story on growing up and relationships and the awkward transition between teenager and adult. Yes, I knew you were a teen that is why you think you know something I''m much older I have had your definition of love and it isn't the same.pjburton said: You're presenting your own interpretation as fact. How you interpret it doesn't change the objective facts, and Aoi Hana focuses on girl's love in a realistic fashion. Yuri doesn't mean girls have to be fucking 24/7, it simply means that a show has an element where a girl has romantic feelings for another girl. This is what this show encapsulates. And, while not in the anime do Akira and Fumi end up together, in the manga they do. The only reason they don't in the anime is because the manga hadn't ended yet.I have no beef with yuri at all. I'm simply pointing out how these stories really are. Aoi Hana is not about love between girls. it's more than that I guess you can't see the complexity behind the story. I am interpreting these stories as they are written. And no you are very naive if you think teenage girls know what true love is. You are looking for this show to focus on yuri things. When it's about innocent first loves, and what real loves are. You want them to end up together I am betting right now Kyouko ends up with Kyou. And A Chan doesn't end up with Fumi. I am one. |
pjburton said: Just because you're older than me doesn't mean that your definition of love is any more valid than mine. And that's perfectly fine if you want to interpret the show in the way you want to, but as I stated earlier, that does not make your definition the correct one. The anime and manga were written as yuri love stories, were marketed as yuri love stories and are generally recognised by everyone to be yuri love stories. Even by your definition, this show could be considered a yuri because all that a yuri needs is to have a main female character that is romantically interested in other females. Yuri does not neccessarily have to focus on romance, though the two typically go hand-in-hand.Ryothatic said: I haven't read the manga yet and I can't see them ending up together. You are correct on your definition of yuri however you are twisting your own definition to define this show. Yes, there are girl gril relationships that is a very minute aspect of the show. ALso, my basis for teen girls is based on me having seen them first hand did you not go to high school? However from what I get you like many other yuri fans prioritize yuri as the important aspect of the story which I do not. I see it as I would any other relationship in a story. It's similar to any straight story in that aspect. You are wanting a story like Kimi Koi Limit. When I see shows like Aoi Hana I put it in the same boat I would a show like Kimi no todoke. It's not just a romance story it's a story on growing up and relationships and the awkward transition between teenager and adult. Yes, I knew you were a teen that is why you think you know something I''m much older I have had your definition of love and it isn't the same.You're presenting your own interpretation as fact. How you interpret it doesn't change the objective facts, and Aoi Hana focuses on girl's love in a realistic fashion. Yuri doesn't mean girls have to be fucking 24/7, it simply means that a show has an element where a girl has romantic feelings for another girl. This is what this show encapsulates. And, while not in the anime do Akira and Fumi end up together, in the manga they do. The only reason they don't in the anime is because the manga hadn't ended yet. I am one. Also, "a minute part of the show"? I beg to differ. The largest part of the show is the relationship between Fumi and Yasuko. Kyoko also has to deal with her feelings towards Yasuko after being rejected. You reprimand "yuri fans" for looking too deep into the show, when anyone who doesn't have their prescription yuri goggles on could see that "Oh, this is a yuri show". |
RyothaticJan 3, 2016 9:30 PM
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