| I can never seem to get a seriously good point out of someone who hates on Kai and loves the original over it... (I'm talking about the dub here) First off... the main complaint is the lack of Bruce Faulconer music, this is totally subjective, but I think it kills the whole mood of the show, it's just constant noise and it bothers me.. I even grew up with it, but I just love the soundtrack much more in Kai. Second is the voices... so, Gohan doesn't sound like a ten year old kid who smokes a pack a day anymore? he actually has a voice that fits him, Frieza sounds 100x more evil, Cell's voice improved, Bulma's is just different, but you get used to it and the acting is where Kai really shines, how can anyone watch Goku going Super Saiyan in the original compared to Kai and say that the original is better? the pacing is bad.. the dialogue ruins it and the acting is just atrocious (props to the whole Funimation cast for improving so much in Kai though) With all of that and the pacing, there's no reason to even watch the original Dragon Ball Z... it just doesn't hold up well enough, and if you are going to tell a new watcher that Kai sucks, he's probably going to go with the original and be bored to death with the pacing and bad acting. |
| I watch a few episodes of kai on tv and i loved it as much as the original dragon ball z. Just the pacing of the story is faster in kai |
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| I think my main point is still the voice acting... That whole "I AM THE HOPE OF THE UNIVERSE" is so cringeworthy... this kicks its ass.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75gUJ_4SyY0 |
| I watched a bit of Kai and definitely enjoyed it. I don't think it deserves most of the flak it gets either |
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| I seriously don't understand it as well. You have to take into account though there are people who ignorantly think Kai is a censored, watered downed version of DBZ because they haven't seen Kai uncensored. |
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Ferolex said: Ally to good nightmare to you was badass though.I think my main point is still the voice acting... That whole "I AM THE HOPE OF THE UNIVERSE" is so cringeworthy... this kicks its ass.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75gUJ_4SyY0 |
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DrGeroCreation said: Ferolex said: Ally to good nightmare to you was badass though.I think my main point is still the voice acting... That whole "I AM THE HOPE OF THE UNIVERSE" is so cringeworthy... this kicks its ass.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75gUJ_4SyY0 I do like that line... but it's just... the execution is so terrible... and the whole quote in general. |
Ferolex said: Yeah the speech in Kai in general was better. Only that specific line I really like.DrGeroCreation said: Ferolex said: Ally to good nightmare to you was badass though.I think my main point is still the voice acting... That whole "I AM THE HOPE OF THE UNIVERSE" is so cringeworthy... this kicks its ass.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75gUJ_4SyY0 I do like that line... but it's just... the execution is so terrible... and the whole quote in general. |
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| We already have a thread about it and everything you mentioned is subjective, it's useless. Your points are just as not good as everyone elses. |
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| Probably a mixture of people being used to the dubs from when they first saw it, and I think the art is a little worse quality than the remastered version we got in NA. |
IntroverTurtle said: We already have a thread about it and everything you mentioned is subjective, it's useless. Your points are just as not good as everyone elses. The fact that Kai has better acting and a lot less cheesy dialogue... "POP GOES TEH WEASEL" is not subjective... |
Ferolex said: That's not a fact. Learn what a fact is.IntroverTurtle said: We already have a thread about it and everything you mentioned is subjective, it's useless. Your points are just as not good as everyone elses. The fact that Kai has better acting and a lot less cheesy dialogue... "POP GOES TEH WEASEL" is not subjective... |
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antonn said: LOL that's absurd Kai's quality is vastly superior to the remastering done for the orange bricks. http://youtu.be/kt9igQDTa-g Kai's visual quality even exceeds that of the Dragon Box.Probably a mixture of people being used to the dubs from when they first saw it, and I think the art is a little worse quality than the remastered version we got in NA. |
DrGeroCreationApr 12, 2014 11:32 PM
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DrGeroCreation said: antonn said: LOL that's absurd Kai's quality is vastly superior to the remastering done for the orange bricks. http://youtu.be/kt9igQDTa-g Kai's visual quality even exceeds that of the Dragon Box.Probably a mixture of people being used to the dubs from when they first saw it, and I think the art is a little worse quality than the remastered version we got in NA. after 10 seconds of hearing vegeta speak in the original, I just don't see how anyone can stick up for it... I mean, seriously? it's below the level of Season 1 Pokemon dub when it comes to voices. |
Ferolex said: It's nostalgia bias. He doesn't sound bad in the remastered version (2nd clip) though. Frieza's voice is absolutely horrible though and there is no possible way anyone can say or justify that Frieza's DBZ Funi English voice is better than his English Kai voice or even on the same level.DrGeroCreation said: antonn said: LOL that's absurd Kai's quality is vastly superior to the remastering done for the orange bricks. http://youtu.be/kt9igQDTa-g Kai's visual quality even exceeds that of the Dragon Box.Probably a mixture of people being used to the dubs from when they first saw it, and I think the art is a little worse quality than the remastered version we got in NA. after 10 seconds of hearing vegeta speak in the original, I just don't see how anyone can stick up for it... I mean, seriously? it's below the level of Season 1 Pokemon dub when it comes to voices. |
DrGeroCreationApr 13, 2014 11:24 AM
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DrGeroCreation said: It's nostalgia bias. +1 |
| Probably because it wasn't over 9000 |
D0FLAMINGO said: DrGeroCreation said: It's nostalgia bias. +1 +2 |
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| I was in another thread here where someone actually insulted me for being excited to see Kai do the Buu Saga because I asked who was subbing it... I mean, seriously, that kind of hate is pathetic, there's no point being like that. Kai is loads better than DBZ, and as "subjective" as some may try to say this discussion is, here's the reason. Fact: This is how the series was meant to be watched, it stays true to the original manga and contains no fillers. The voice acting is better imo, as well, but it's true that you cannot call that a fact. However, the fact remains that Kai IS how Dragon Ball was meant to be. The billions of filler episodes that we sat through in DBZ were not part of the original manga storyline, therefore weren't needed. |
| Odds are I'm not going to find my way back to a thread after my first post, it happens on occasion but not often. So, if I say something that offends you and you feel the need to force your opinion on me because obviously everyone should have your opinion or none at all, feel free to post it in the thread that I'll probably never see again. However, if you are interested in intelligent discourse, feel free to message me. |
| It's not so much hate as that it was unnecessary to shoot another series to replace something that was already perfect. |
| This music in that video sucked. Also real vegeta voice doesnt exist to me anymore. Team Four Star Vegeta is English Dub perfection. But then again, we aren't dealing with just a regular english voice actor anymore. |
| People like the original because its the original, just because the remastered version has a few good points to it doesn't make the original worse than kai. Don't forget about the "historic value" and the "WOW factor", I mean c'mon, people in the 90's were silly. I personally still prefer DBZ to Kai because i saw DBZ first. |
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| original wouldnt even compare with kai if they had bruces score in it oh yeah and gohans orig voice actor |
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| Anyone who hates Kai probably does not remember the fact that the Great Saiyaman/school arc was like FIFTEEN FUCKING EPISODES. |
Racaholic said: I liked that length. I thought it was a pretty damn good arc. And I'm sad Kai didn't have the grand kai arc too. But Kai and the original have nothing on dzbP or dzbPP.Anyone who hates Kai probably does not remember the fact that the Great Saiyaman/school arc was like FIFTEEN FUCKING EPISODES. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYa5aQb3YGE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pSmhZFbCy0 |
Racaholic said: Anyone who hates Kai probably does not remember the fact that the Great Saiyaman/school arc was like FIFTEEN FUCKING EPISODES. ...Was it, really? LOL. Damn. Original series stay losing. Anyway, Kai's pretty obviously the superior version. No wasting time on pointless filler idiocy (although I do miss seeing Goku and Piccolo get their licenses), no drawn out fight scenes. We pretty much get the adaption we should've gotten originally. Good deal. |
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D0FLAMINGO said:
+1
DrGeroCreation said:
It's nostalgia bias.
It's nostalgia bias.
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