Little Busters! Episode 17 Discussion

Vladz0r said:
Komari- you're our friend now and forever!
Kud-moodmaker!
Kyousuke- "You're one of the Little Busters, we need you"
Masato-remembers all those times- Psychopathic Maracas, cutlet eater, so cute :>
crying on Anego-san ;_;

I thought the first half was well done in place of the yandere scene.

Then I liked how Futaki admits to wanting Haruka to just die, after getting out of the car.

The meeting was alright.

The ending... what?
So Futaki shows up with the good chiffon cake pretending to be Haruka.
But why does she react strangely when she hear Riki say "last time", and repeat his words, dropping the cake.

I feel like the lines and order was a bit screwed up.
Why would Futaki be surprised for a few seconds to Riki hearing that?

I forget how it went in the VN, can someone help me out?
I'm trying to replay it but now I'm getting even more confused, since it's not as clear when Futaki and Haruka switch. ..

I think that Futaki made a good cake early on (disguised), then Haruka makes the dry cake, Riki is like "whysodry because it was better last time", Haruka questions Riki's reaction without realizing that Futaki made the previous good cake, and blames the suspicions on the oven, then Haruka makes another good cake, Riki asks for marmalade/blueberry jam next time.

Then, Futaki disguised as Haruka brings another Chiffon Cake, and Haruka shows up and threatens to stab Futaki after knocking the cake over.

But... I can't really confirm when Haruka is Haruka, so I might be off lol.

It was good, but I feel like there should've been a change in the order and number of cake scenes or something, because that line felt extremely out of place...

Ugh I'm super confused. Why would Futaki show any reaction to a previous chiffon cake? I thought for a minute that the one next to Riki at the end was actually Haruka when she dropped the plate... but if that were the case, there wouldn't have been the "do you like me?" and devious smile at the end.

Someone please explain the scene to me. Why can't I comprehend this?

Tyrel said:


Regarding why Futaki was surprised. She was surprised that he got one before because she never gave him one, but Haruka did; however, I think they did something wrong with the order because he did indeed say something along the lines of what you're saying.

Vladz0r said:
Komari- you're our friend now and forever!
Kud-moodmaker!
Kyousuke- "You're one of the Little Busters, we need you"
Masato-remembers all those times- Psychopathic Maracas, cutlet eater, so cute :>
crying on Anego-san ;_;

I thought the first half was well done in place of the yandere scene.

Then I liked how Futaki admits to wanting Haruka to just die, after getting out of the car.

The meeting was alright.

The ending... what?
So Futaki shows up with the good chiffon cake pretending to be Haruka.
But why does she react strangely when she hear Riki say "last time", and repeat his words, dropping the cake.

I feel like the lines and order was a bit screwed up.
Why would Futaki be surprised for a few seconds to Riki hearing that?

I forget how it went in the VN, can someone help me out?
I'm trying to replay it but now I'm getting even more confused, since it's not as clear when Futaki and Haruka switch. ..

I think that Futaki made a good cake early on (disguised), then Haruka makes the dry cake, Riki is like "whysodry because it was better last time", Haruka questions Riki's reaction without realizing that Futaki made the previous good cake, and blames the suspicions on the oven, then Haruka makes another good cake, Riki asks for marmalade/blueberry jam next time.

Then, Futaki disguised as Haruka brings another Chiffon Cake, and Haruka shows up and threatens to stab Futaki after knocking the cake over.

But... I can't really confirm when Haruka is Haruka, so I might be off lol.

It was good, but I feel like there should've been a change in the order and number of cake scenes or something, because that line felt extremely out of place...

Ugh I'm super confused. Why would Futaki show any reaction to a previous chiffon cake? I thought for a minute that the one next to Riki at the end was actually Haruka when she dropped the plate... but if that were the case, there wouldn't have been the "do you like me?" and devious smile at the end.

Someone please explain the scene to me. Why can't I comprehend this?

I don't have any idea where they're going with it, the whole reason why kanata dressed up as haruka in the first place was to try and manipulate riki into stop trying to find out who's father was who's. asking him if he likes her is out of place.

and i too was wtfing at why kanata would be suprised at Riki's comment about the cake being better than the previous one.

I was under the impression that it was Haruka said "Last time?..." , not Kanata. Haruka was already behind Riki when he said that it was better than last time. Kanata dropped the chiffon cake, because she saw Haruka behind him already during that time(either out of shock or just to drop the act) , and then proceeded to act her usual unpleasant facade.

Regicide said:
what the fuck this anime is insane

great thing they didn't rush it like they did some of the other arcs cause this one is fucking interesting
gotta pray its longer than 3 episodes at least

Cratex said:
Well, cake aside, I was very curious about the way Kud was acting while in her bed at night when Kanata(?) returned. It looked like she was also noticing a certain hair accessory on the dresser.

Funya-Usagi said:
it's funny how people are raging over kanata, this is nothing..

Cratex said:
Well, cake aside, I was very curious about the way Kud was acting while in her bed at night when Kanata(?) returned. It looked like she was also noticing a certain hair accessory on the dresser.

kuroikishi said:


I just realized it... the reason that Kud was acting like that was not because of the accessory, but because of Kanata's body (look at the opening).

Comparison here

Vladz0r said:
Komari- you're our friend now and forever!
Kud-moodmaker!
Kyousuke- "You're one of the Little Busters, we need you"
Masato-remembers all those times- Psychopathic Maracas, cutlet eater, so cute :>
crying on Anego-san ;_;

I thought the first half was well done in place of the yandere scene.

Then I liked how Futaki admits to wanting Haruka to just die, after getting out of the car.

The meeting was alright.

The ending... what?
So Futaki shows up with the good chiffon cake pretending to be Haruka.
But why does she react strangely when she hear Riki say "last time", and repeat his words, dropping the cake.

I feel like the lines and order was a bit screwed up.
Why would Futaki be surprised for a few seconds to Riki hearing that?

I forget how it went in the VN, can someone help me out?
I'm trying to replay it but now I'm getting even more confused, since it's not as clear when Futaki and Haruka switch. ..

I think that Futaki made a good cake early on (disguised), then Haruka makes the dry cake, Riki is like "whysodry because it was better last time", Haruka questions Riki's reaction without realizing that Futaki made the previous good cake, and blames the suspicions on the oven, then Haruka makes another good cake, Riki asks for marmalade/blueberry jam next time.

Then, Futaki disguised as Haruka brings another Chiffon Cake, and Haruka shows up and threatens to stab Futaki after knocking the cake over.

But... I can't really confirm when Haruka is Haruka, so I might be off lol.

It was good, but I feel like there should've been a change in the order and number of cake scenes or something, because that line felt extremely out of place...

Ugh I'm super confused. Why would Futaki show any reaction to a previous chiffon cake? I thought for a minute that the one next to Riki at the end was actually Haruka when she dropped the plate... but if that were the case, there wouldn't have been the "do you like me?" and devious smile at the end.

Someone please explain the scene to me. Why can't I comprehend this?

Tyrel said:


Someone else finally noticed other than me xD.

Vladz0r said:


Wow, the fact that they changed that scene... I can't even comprehend the level of tomfoolery for keeping it in the opening and changing it when it actually happens.

Maybe they'll mention it next episode.

kuroikishi said:
I was under the impression that it was Haruka said "Last time?..." , not Kanata. Haruka was already behind Riki when he said that it was better than last time. Kanata dropped the chiffon cake, because she saw Haruka behind him already during that time(either out of shock or just to drop the act) , and then proceeded to act her usual unpleasant facade. I thought she said please die toward the woman in the car, not actually Haruka.

kuroikishi said:
I just realized it... the reason that Kud was acting like that was not because of the accessory, but because of Kanata's body (look at the opening).

Comparison here

shirayuki75 said:


That makes a lot of sense, and explains why Kanata isn't surprised to see Haruka when she stands up, but it's still a sign of poor directing.



Oh wow! I've been fascinated by the opening ever since they changed it, but I still didn't make that connection.

blasterion said:

That's like not entirely not how it goes though. Because the first cooking Riki ate from "Haruka" was Kanata's. Then he ate Haruka's bad cakes, and was like, that wasn't like the last time...Haruka was like eh? but brushed it off , impossible.
Riki comments on Haruka (Kanata)'s other cooking and was like Alot better than last time, last time was too dry. Kanata was like eh?
Also Haruka likes Citrus and uses Citrus shampoo and always smell like oranges. Kanata uses Mint. Riki picked it up.

kuroikishi said:


By visual novel, yes. But in the anime, it seems the first time Rin and Riki ate the cake was Haruka's. Either way, the confusion will hopefully be cleared up with the next episode.
edit--
... I'm starting to doubt myself (my memory of this route is pretty weak). I might need to reread that route again. Was Kanata's first cake baked horribly too?

sushi55 said:
despite being, in my opinion, a possible best romance anime of 2013 alongside Sakurasou no Pet no Kanojo and one of my favorites from fall 2012.

blasterion said:
That's like not entirely not how it goes though. Because the first cooking Riki ate from "Haruka" was Kanata's. Then he ate Haruka's bad cakes, and was like, that wasn't like the last time...Haruka was like eh? but brushed it off , impossible. Riki comments on Haruka (Kanata)'s other cooking and was like Alot better than last time, last time was too dry. Kanata was like eh? Also Haruka likes Citrus and uses Citrus shampoo and always smell like oranges. Kanata uses Mint. Riki picked it up.

shirayuki75 said:


You'll have to reword that because it doesn't make sense at all. But your version sounds correct because Haruka says that she's pro at egg-based recipes. Eh, I'll just wait for the next episode.

Vladz0r said:
Because of the system of adaptation they're using, which is excluding a key element of the VN, there will likely not be a single kiss scene in the LB anime.

Vladz0r said:
Because of the system of adaptation they're using, which is excluding a key element of the VN, there will likely not be a single kiss scene in the LB anime.

There's more hints of romance between Kyousuke and Riki than between Riki and any of the heroines, lmao.

Sa-chan_ said:
Well, we'll know that in the future when we finally hit Kurugaya's arc. Whether on this season or on the 2nd season, NOT OVA.

shirayuki75 said:

How do you know her route isn't going to be an OVA? I've heard that her route has a lot of romance in it. KyoAni resorted to OVAs for Clannad when they were faced with the romance-based routes. But then again, J.C. Staff will probably cut the romance out.

Vladz0r said:
Please let Riki x Kyousuke be the true route already.

I'm pretty sure Kyousuke yaoi for Riki is the secret of the world: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHVUO7eYPR8


@Funya-Usagi
Nope, Kud spoiler:

@Funya again
They could start Kud's route at 19 and make it longer to include the

wilcruz2 said:
idk about everyone else, but i think theyre doing a pretty good job with haruka's arc. still no house visits, but the rain scene IS going to happen next episode.

also picked a very nice scene to cliffhang the episode.

also, maybe there are other people who already thought of this, but: