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Havish2628 said:
Should I watch steins gate 0 or the first steins gate is enough?
Should I watch steins gate 0 or the first steins gate is enough?
Tbh at first, I thought you could just skip both the Steins;Gate 0 series and the alternate ending. But, in order to fully understand the original series and the movie more, you should watch both Steins;Gate 0 and the alternate ending
SoulFire_Anime said: But, in order to fully understand the original series and the movie more, you should watch both Steins;Gate 0 and the alternate ending 0 has nothing to do with the movie, it won't impact the understanding of it |
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KuroiSeirei said: If you do a research about watch order on the internet , at least %70 of the answers will be the same as mine. If you mean typing "Watch order Steins;Gate" on Google , 90% of the results will be clickbait news sites. They are basically site that only do long articles about "Incredible news" , that end by something like "We don't know , but we are waiting for the news"... They just want you to click , and give them traffic. (Therefore money , with ads) Most of the writers did not even watched the series they are talking about. If you go at places where the community gather (MAL , Reddit , Anilist , 4chan...) , it's not even 1% of people that recommend this "Chronological order". KuroiSeirei said: I have experienced this watch order and saw in on the forum from many people who says they have enjoyed it . Sure , you can enjoy it... but you can also enjoy a show by watching the last episode first , you know ? (Or without sounds , or watching only odd numbered episodes...) The problem , is that the huge majority does not even understand the story like that. For example , did you realized that Steins;Gate 0 does not happen between Episode 22 & 23 of the original , but before Episode 01 ? For some reasons , some people believe that you have to watch everything in chronological order... but it makes absolutely no sense. Without playing with the chronology of the story , how can an Author create mystery and suspense in his work ? You can also note that all people recommending the "chronological order" for Steins;Gate , are quite new to Animes... |
Alexioos95Oct 22, 2023 2:27 AM
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SciADV_Maniac said:
Dude... I've even read the visual novels Steins;Gate is based on, furthermore, I've also read every other Science Adventure visual novel released in English. I bet you don't even know that Steins;Gate is just a second part in a much bigger franchise. So no, I have to tell you that I'm much more knowledgeable about Steins;Gate than you, because I not only experienced all the Steins;Gate content, but I also have the context from the rest if the franchise. While you are some anime only, who only watched the animated content of S;G. Don't be ridiculous please.
About that "70%", I'm pretty sure you are wrong. Just read through all the threads here on MAL, the majority recommends release order. Because that is the way the creators intended to consume it. It literally makes no sense to stop S;G in the middle of its climax just to start another related story, which by the way doesn't even existed for years, and S;G was perfectly fine complete without it. Steins;Gate earned its 2nd place here and its popularity by its own right, without 0. Why do we need to add 0 inbetween? Which by the way, doesn't even make sense in universe as well, since 23b and 0 doesn't take place between ep22 and 23. This order just confuses people and complicates things for no valid reason.
And guess what, r/steinsgate which is arguably the biggest fanplace of Steins;Gate fans on the internet also recommends the release order: https://www.reddit.com/r/steinsgate/s/rvtFB8xucG
So hold your horses and do your research first please.
KuroiSeirei said:
don't mind him , I am not even sure he watched all the steins gate contents xd I have experienced this watch order and saw in on the forum from many people who says they have enjoyed it . If you do a research about watch order on the internet , at least %70 of the answers will be the same as mine.
don't mind him , I am not even sure he watched all the steins gate contents xd I have experienced this watch order and saw in on the forum from many people who says they have enjoyed it . If you do a research about watch order on the internet , at least %70 of the answers will be the same as mine.
Dude... I've even read the visual novels Steins;Gate is based on, furthermore, I've also read every other Science Adventure visual novel released in English. I bet you don't even know that Steins;Gate is just a second part in a much bigger franchise. So no, I have to tell you that I'm much more knowledgeable about Steins;Gate than you, because I not only experienced all the Steins;Gate content, but I also have the context from the rest if the franchise. While you are some anime only, who only watched the animated content of S;G. Don't be ridiculous please.
About that "70%", I'm pretty sure you are wrong. Just read through all the threads here on MAL, the majority recommends release order. Because that is the way the creators intended to consume it. It literally makes no sense to stop S;G in the middle of its climax just to start another related story, which by the way doesn't even existed for years, and S;G was perfectly fine complete without it. Steins;Gate earned its 2nd place here and its popularity by its own right, without 0. Why do we need to add 0 inbetween? Which by the way, doesn't even make sense in universe as well, since 23b and 0 doesn't take place between ep22 and 23. This order just confuses people and complicates things for no valid reason.
And guess what, r/steinsgate which is arguably the biggest fanplace of Steins;Gate fans on the internet also recommends the release order: https://www.reddit.com/r/steinsgate/s/rvtFB8xucG
So hold your horses and do your research first please.
calm down , " the steins gate gatekeeper " lol I guess I am talking to original author of steins gate xd Why did you assume that I did not read VN and played the game etc. You think you are the only fan of this production ? Stop spreading hate on just an anime forum. I only suggested him a watch order and you tried to humiliate me for no reason . Well , you know what , I really don't have for this chit chat , I do not even know why I am still trying to respond you
KuroiSeirei said: Why did you assume that I did not read VN and played the game Because you sounded like an anime only by this statement: "I am not even sure he watched all the steins gate contents" KuroiSeirei said: You think you are the only fan of this production No, I never said that. I'm qouting the general consensus of the fandom about the watch order, if you didn't notice. With which apparently I agree with. KuroiSeirei said: Stop spreading hate on just an anime forum. I only suggested him a watch order and you tried to humiliate me for no reason I did not spreading hate nor I tried to humiliate you. I just said that recommended order is bad and doesn't make sense. I even explained why. I even showed what is the general consensus of the fanbase. I just want OP to have the best possible experience of Steins;Gate. And that is the release order. It was you who wanted to invalidate my opinion saying "I am not even sure he watched all the steins gate contents". Sure, me, the "SciADV Maniac" didn't watch all Steins;Gate... I've even looked beyond the gate, dude. I've read the entire franchise. Even many side materials. |
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KuroiSeirei said:
If you do a research about watch order on the internet , at least %70 of the answers will be the same as mine.
If you do a research about watch order on the internet , at least %70 of the answers will be the same as mine.
If you mean typing "Watch order Steins;Gate" on Google , 90% of the results will be clickbait news sites.
They are basically site that only do long articles about "Incredible news" , that end by something like "We don't know , but we are waiting for the news"...
They just want you to click , and give them traffic. (Therefore money , with ads) Most of the writers did not even watched the series they are talking about.
If you go at places where the community gather (MAL , Reddit , Anilist , 4chan...) , it's not even 1% of people that recommend this "Chronological order".
KuroiSeirei said:
I have experienced this watch order and saw in on the forum from many people who says they have enjoyed it .
I have experienced this watch order and saw in on the forum from many people who says they have enjoyed it .
Sure , you can enjoy it... but you can also enjoy a show by watching the last episode first , you know ? (Or without sounds , or watching only odd numbered episodes...)
The problem , is that the huge majority does not even understand the story like that.
For example , did you realized that Steins;Gate 0 does not happen between Episode 22 & 23 of the original , but before Episode 01 ?
For some reasons , some people believe that you have to watch everything in chronological order... but it makes absolutely no sense.
Without playing with the chronology of the story , how can an Author create mystery and suspense in his work ?
You can also note that all people recommending the "chronological order" for Steins;Gate , are quite new to Animes...
Alexioos95 said: did you realized that Steins;Gate 0 does not happen between Episode 22 & 23 of the original , but before Episode 01 ? That's obviously not true. The protagonist meets Kurisu in episode 1 of the original, and Steins;Gate 0 takes place after they met. The plot of 0 makes no sense if I'm to believe the death of a stranger sent the hero into depression. |
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Alexioos95 said:
did you realized that Steins;Gate 0 does not happen between Episode 22 & 23 of the original , but before Episode 01 ?
did you realized that Steins;Gate 0 does not happen between Episode 22 & 23 of the original , but before Episode 01 ?
That's obviously not true. The protagonist meets Kurisu in episode 1 of the original, and Steins;Gate 0 takes place after they met. The plot of 0 makes no sense if I'm to believe the death of a stranger sent the hero into depression.
Lucifrost said: That's obviously not true. The protagonist meets Kurisu in episode 1 of the original, and Steins;Gate 0 takes place after they met. The plot of 0 makes no sense if I'm to believe the death of a stranger sent the hero into depression. You are not quite correct. Okabe gets the mail in Episode 1. Which means 0 already happened. It is something like this: Steins;Gate happens first, similarly to what we seen in depicted in Steins;Gate, with the exception that Okabe never got any mails from his future self. Then all the iterations of Steins;Gate 0 happens (VN+anime+many iteration which we never observed) Once that's done, Okabe gets the mail in Episode 1, and Steins;Gate starts, the events play out as we saw in Steins;Gate. 0 is not between 22 and 23. It's before 1. |
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| so, i decided to watch steins gate 0 and completed it.I personally didn't like it but there are some good moments. |
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steins geat story happen in between the original story' s in middle episode 22 and 23. you should watch steins geat 0. but watch fast original series episode 1 to 22 then the ova missing link, then stein geat 0 and then last 2 episodes 23 and 24..
Debnagan007 said: steins geat story happen in between the original story' s in middle episode 22 and 23. you should watch steins geat 0. but watch fast original series episode 1 to 22 then the ova missing link, then stein geat 0 and then last 2 episodes 23 and 24.. No, it does not takes place between those 2 eps, and this order is the worst possible order someone can watch this |
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| It looks like OP already watched it, but as a huge Steins;Gate fan myself, I felt like Steins;Gate 0 was like when Hollywood movies are pressured into making the sequel bigger and badder until they lose plot cohesion. Aside from the Reading Steiner plot mechanic that's practically necessary for any time travel fiction to work, I felt like you could find a way to make all the plot points fit within a framework, making it one of the most cohesive time travel fiction works. But Steins;Gate 0 got way ahead of itself. Truth be said, a lot of the plot in Steins;Gate are better left untold. We don't really need to know how some teenage girl like Suzuka became the leader of a revolutionary army, or anything that confirms the typical anime hi-jinks. I'd much rather imagine that she aged much differently in the original timeline, making her a physically scarred butch dike badass or something, but Steins;Gate 0 had to prove that the franchise was just cringey shounen shit after all. The most enjoyable aspect of Steins;Gate 0 was the first few episodes which I think captured the feeling exactly of what a high schooler might feel like the moment he steps onto the campus of a leading school, feeling like he's ready to make a mark in the world. It would be cool if the real world was more like Steins;Gate 0 here, that freshmen are invited to participate in leading time travel research, instead of getting all the excitement dashed with gen eds and taking linear algebra for the 3rd time. |
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katsucats said: Aside from the Reading Steiner plot mechanic that's practically necessary for any time travel fiction to work, I felt like you could find a way to make all the plot points fit within a framework, making it one of the most cohesive time travel fiction works. But Steins;Gate 0 got way ahead of itself. I don't really get what do you mean by this |
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@hiraganaa Just no, to the newcomers reading this in the Steins;Gate 0 thread for whatever the fuck reason, avoid the opinion of this guy at all cost, people already explained in this thread why that Chronological Order bullshit is dumb so I don't want to waste my time explaining it, it's not even a Chronological Order because Steins;Gate 0 already happened before the 1st episode of Steins;Gate began.
Just do yourself a favor and watch Steins;Gate the way it was intended to be watched, finish Steins;Gate first (all 24 episodes) before you watch anything else from this franchise and ignore the opinions of other dumbasses recommending these weird-ass fan-made orders, it's cringe, newbies and people with new or alt accounts are always the ones recommending this shit, go figure.
Just do yourself a favor and watch Steins;Gate the way it was intended to be watched, finish Steins;Gate first (all 24 episodes) before you watch anything else from this franchise and ignore the opinions of other dumbasses recommending these weird-ass fan-made orders, it's cringe, newbies and people with new or alt accounts are always the ones recommending this shit, go figure.
| @xZabuzax brother, i respect your opinion but i literally have been making theories and conclusions of the beta and alpha timelines for a long time, the truth is that in that order it is very well explained and following your logic you are saying that chapter 1 happens after everything that happened with amadeus, that is not true, you are free to make your theories but if you take the time to watch steins gate from that order to the simple order from chapter 1 to 24 and then watch everything else, you will see that my order is better, I can explain concepts and loops that have to do with chapter 1 and 24, the movie that has to do with okabe's past and how the lines arose, if you want to debate about this, go ahead. |
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hiraganaa said: but i literally have been making theories and conclusions of the beta and alpha timelines for a long time That's... kinda a problem. Why would you even theorize a story ? There is nothing to do with that... hiraganaa said: you are saying that chapter 1 happens after everything that happened with amadeus, that is not true It is true. You say that you re-watched the show a lot , but did you really not realized that Steins;Gate 0 is about creating the video that Okabe received in Episode 01 of the original... ? |
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hiraganaa said:
but i literally have been making theories and conclusions of the beta and alpha timelines for a long time
but i literally have been making theories and conclusions of the beta and alpha timelines for a long time
That's... kinda a problem.
Why would you even theorize a story ?
There is nothing to do with that...
hiraganaa said:
you are saying that chapter 1 happens after everything that happened with amadeus, that is not true
you are saying that chapter 1 happens after everything that happened with amadeus, that is not true
It is true.
You say that you re-watched the show a lot , but did you really not realized that Steins;Gate 0 is about creating the video that Okabe received in Episode 01 of the original... ?
| @Alexioos95 brother, the video that okabe received was received in chapter 23 of steins gate, actually that order is usually ignored. look at this, in chapter 23-24, thanks to mayuri and suzuha, mostly okabe from steins gate 0, okabe gets the video and realizes what he has to do, what happened in chapter 1 is the beginning of everything, it's not like it's a loop going from steins gate 0 to steins gate and from steins gate to steins gate 0 to understand everything, literally chapter 1 is chapter 1 if you say it because maho the little one said the same phrase that okabe said at the beginning of the chapter, i don't think it's like that. |
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hiraganaa said: the video that okabe received was received in chapter 23 of steins gate He received the video in Episode 01 , but it was encrypted because of the convergence. It's explained in Episode 23. hiraganaa said: what happened in chapter 1 is the beginning of everything, it's not like it's a loop going from steins gate 0 to steins gate and from steins gate to steins gate 0 It can not be the beginning. There is already the future Okabe , which was in the video. And it's revealed in Steins;Gate 0 that there was a lot more iterations than what we could think of. It's not a loop per se , but by changing the past , they force the events to play "again". Edit : It's a lot more complex than that , and i admit that even i don't remember/understood everything. (Maybe i'll re-read the Visual Novels once i have enough time.) hiraganaa said: literally chapter 1 is chapter 1 Exactly. You may now understand why it's titled Steins;Gate "0". =) Overall , i strongly recommend you to read the Visual Novels , and post on the sub-Reddit your questions/doubts. But be sure to not mention your "chronological order" , or you'll be burned to death... |
Alexioos95Oct 23, 2023 9:27 AM
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@hiraganaa I'm in absolutely no mood to start debating about this, I'm tired of explaining why the Chronological Order is dumb in the Steins;Gate forum, and I just don't feel like it.
I will only say that shoehorning a new slower anime in the middle of the climax of Steins;Gate is one of the dumbest things you can do, if I watched Steins;Gate that way then my enjoyment would have been ruined because I disliked Steins;Gate 0 with passion, it's a shitty anime IMHO and shoehorning that piece of crap would have definitely, 100% ruin it for me, by the time I finish that Steins;Gate 0 shit I would have been in no mood to watch the last 2 episodes of Steins;Gate so I would have watched it with all my expectations in the floor by that point.
Not everyone will like Steins;Gate 0 and I'm one of those people, and If I listened to people like you then I would have my enjoyment ruined.
I will only say that shoehorning a new slower anime in the middle of the climax of Steins;Gate is one of the dumbest things you can do, if I watched Steins;Gate that way then my enjoyment would have been ruined because I disliked Steins;Gate 0 with passion, it's a shitty anime IMHO and shoehorning that piece of crap would have definitely, 100% ruin it for me, by the time I finish that Steins;Gate 0 shit I would have been in no mood to watch the last 2 episodes of Steins;Gate so I would have watched it with all my expectations in the floor by that point.
Not everyone will like Steins;Gate 0 and I'm one of those people, and If I listened to people like you then I would have my enjoyment ruined.
| @xZabuzaxI don't have a problem with that, anyway debating is something I like to do to understand the other person's point of view and what he/she is trying to explain. anyway, if you think that I am one of those people that thanks to me your enjoyment is ruined. and say that steins gate 0 is crap, although as I perceive it is not. then why are you responding to the forum? according to me the best way to see steins gate is to draw your own conclusions, it's something that I imagine you already did and it's a bit tiring to understand certain theories and that it breaks your head with so many theories. but anyway the important thing is to enjoy it |
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hiraganaa said: but anyway the important thing is to enjoy it Exactly. The problem is that you try to impose the way you watched it as a good way for everyone. You even tried to make your opinion seem superior... and that's really not cool , and won't be well perceived by the old fans of the show. |
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hiraganaa said:
but anyway the important thing is to enjoy it
but anyway the important thing is to enjoy it
Exactly.
The problem is that you try to impose the way you watched it as a good way for everyone.
You even tried to make your opinion seem superior... and that's really not cool , and won't be well perceived by the old fans of the show.
| @Alexioos95 I'm not trying to look "superior" in fact I said that the best way to see steins gate is to draw your own conclusions and that's it, I'm really sorry if you took it that way, but I'm not trying to be "superior". |
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hiraganaa said: but I'm not trying to be "superior". hiraganaa said: I think that after watching so much of this anime the best way to watch it is this way hiraganaa said: according to me after watching so many times the anime this would be the best order By saying that you "watched so much" and "after watching so many times" the Anime , you try to elevate your opinion as better than someone else's. And you followed that by saying that your opinion is "the best way" , without really explaining why you think so... This may not be what you meant , but it's what i personally felt reading this... and i believe it's also what xZabuzax perceived. x') |
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Alexioos95 said: hiraganaa said: the video that okabe received was received in chapter 23 of steins gate He received the video in Episode 01 , but it was encrypted because of the convergence. It's explained in Episode 23. hiraganaa said: what happened in chapter 1 is the beginning of everything, it's not like it's a loop going from steins gate 0 to steins gate and from steins gate to steins gate 0 It can not be the beginning. There is already the future Okabe , which was in the video. And it's revealed in Steins;Gate 0 that there was a lot more iterations than what we could think of. It's not a loop per se , but by changing the past , they force the events to play "again". Edit : It's a lot more complex than that , and i admit that even i don't remember/understood everything. (Maybe i'll re-read the Visual Novels once i have enough time.) hiraganaa said: literally chapter 1 is chapter 1 Exactly. You may now understand why it's titled Steins;Gate "0". =) Overall , i strongly recommend you to read the Visual Novels , and post on the sub-Reddit your questions/doubts. But be sure to not mention your "chronological order" , or you'll be burned to death... @Alexioos95 in fact you are right but anyway i explained myself wrong, it's not the beginning of everything. the real beginning of everything is when you start watching the series by yourself, the first time the light novels, i'll be honest, i haven't seen them. about the subreddit, here we go. what i'm trying to explain is that the okabe in chapter 1 is the real okabe that starts it all. and the other okabe never appears because he is doing the plan with suzuha. about the order from steins gate 0 to steins gate it's really true, but there are 2 ways to look at it Steins gate 0 to 23 24 Steins Gate 0 to cap 1 You can watch both whitouth getting lost Anyway, thats why i love steins gate |
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Alexioos95 said: hiraganaa said: but I'm not trying to be "superior". hiraganaa said: I think that after watching so much of this anime the best way to watch it is this way hiraganaa said: according to me after watching so many times the anime this would be the best order By saying that you "watched so much" and "after watching so many times" the Anime , you try to elevate your opinion as better than someone else's. And you followed that by saying that your opinion is "the best way" , without really explaining why you think so... This may not be what you meant , but it's what i personally felt reading this... and i believe it's also what xZabuzax perceived. x') I wasn't really trying to be superior in that respect I've watched steins gate many times, yes. But I still think that's the best order in general to watch it in anyway. I have admitted that the best way is to watch it by drawing your own theories and conclusions. But going from steins gate from 22 to steins gate 0 and after watching steins gate move on to the rest. It's still valid and if it's not the best way to understand it, it's one of the easiest. |
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hiraganaa said: what i'm trying to explain is that the okabe in chapter 1 is the real okabe that starts it all. and the other okabe never appears because he is doing the plan with suzuha. Wrong. The Okabe we follow in the original Steins;Gate can not be the first one. He receives a video from a future self , after all. The Okabe of Steins;Gate 0 can not be the first one either , as he already lived through the "3 hellish weeks". Which means there was already Suzuha , from a future where Okabe died , killed by SERN. (And there was a lot of iterations of "0" before the final 0 Okabe can complete his plan.) As far as i know , the very first Okabe never was seen or mentionned , no matter the material. Maybe @SciADV_Maniac has something to add ? x) |
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hiraganaa said: if it's not the best way to understand it, it's one of the easiest. Mhh , dunno. You cut the flow of the climax (!) of a show , to watch another show , which is directed completely differently , with also a very different tone... It really seems everything but easy. Especially when compared with the true order , which is "Episode 01 > 24 , followed by all the side material". Because yes , Steins;Gate 0 is a side-material , a bonus story. It was even specially created to be a cash-grab to fund the next Visual Novels of the series. Because yes , Steins;Gate is only a small part of a way larger franchise called SciAdv Series. |
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hiraganaa said:
what i'm trying to explain is that the okabe in chapter 1 is the real okabe that starts it all.
and the other okabe never appears because he is doing the plan with suzuha.
what i'm trying to explain is that the okabe in chapter 1 is the real okabe that starts it all.
and the other okabe never appears because he is doing the plan with suzuha.
Wrong.
The Okabe we follow in the original Steins;Gate can not be the first one.
He receives a video from a future self , after all.
The Okabe of Steins;Gate 0 can not be the first one either , as he already lived through the "3 hellish weeks". Which means there was already Suzuha , from a future where Okabe died , killed by SERN. (And there was a lot of iterations of "0" before the final 0 Okabe can complete his plan.)
As far as i know , the very first Okabe never was seen or mentionned , no matter the material. Maybe @SciADV_Maniac has something to add ? x)
| @Alexioos95 let's keep in mind that we have seen different chronological orderings and honestly, when you change one chapter for another, even the slightest change can change the order of things. according to you everything that happens in chapter 1 of steins gate happens after steins gate 0. it's a fact, but anyway it causes a "confusion". is that in my order as I saw it, it is really chapter 23 to 24 what happens after steins gate 0. you say that steins gate 0 happens before ch. 1 which is true but that is a consequence of what suzuha did with okabe before chapter 24. and that consequence caused them to travel to chapter 1 and happen what happened. anyway, i am much of theories and conclusions and maybe i will build a 100% feasible theory, taking into account your order there are things in which i am confused and i want to retake them. |
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hiraganaa said:
if it's not the best way to understand it, it's one of the easiest.
if it's not the best way to understand it, it's one of the easiest.
Mhh , dunno.
You cut the flow of the climax (!) of a show , to watch another show , which is directed completely differently , with also a very different tone...
It really seems everything but easy.
Especially when compared with the true order , which is "Episode 01 > 24 , followed by all the side material".
Because yes , Steins;Gate 0 is a side-material , a bonus story. It was even specially created to be a cash-grab to fund the next Visual Novels of the series. Because yes , Steins;Gate is only a small part of a way larger franchise called SciAdv Series.
| @Alexioos95 It's not that I cut the climax, it's that there's really a debate on this and taking into account the orders, there's a lot of chronological orders, all this to understand the concept of alpha and beta time travel and what Okabe does for Mayuri and Kurisu, your order is really relevant and you're right, Anyway what happens in Chapter 1 is a consequence of what happens in Chapter 23 and 24, taking into account that Steins Gate 0 happens before Chapter 1, it really makes me doubt a lot of things |
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hiraganaa said: it's a fact, but anyway it causes a "confusion". That's a Mystery show using Time-travel... If you try to reduce this "confusion" , you are in reality trying to kill the core of the show. hiraganaa said: is that in my order as I saw it, it is really chapter 23 to 24 what happens after steins gate 0. That's one of the reasons as to why the "chronological order" is bad and not recommended. You completely miss-interpreted (or more like missed the point) of the chronology of events. hiraganaa said: anyway, i am much of theories and conclusions and maybe i will build a 100% feasible theory I was about to quote you on that as well. I highly suggest you to go read all the Visual Novels/Light Novels/Mangas of the Sci-Adv Series. (https://www.kirikiribasara.com/what-is-sciadv/) You will learn a lot of crazy things about the characters/worlds you think you understood in Steins;Gate , and makes all possible "theory" you can think of meaningless. (The Youen no Valhalla Light Novel , or the Boukan no Rebellion Manga can be a good starting point for that. Onshuu no Brownian Motion Manga is also very beloved.) |
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hiraganaa said:
it's a fact, but anyway it causes a "confusion".
it's a fact, but anyway it causes a "confusion".
That's a Mystery show using Time-travel...
If you try to reduce this "confusion" , you are in reality trying to kill the core of the show.
hiraganaa said:
is that in my order as I saw it, it is really chapter 23 to 24 what happens after steins gate 0.
is that in my order as I saw it, it is really chapter 23 to 24 what happens after steins gate 0.
That's one of the reasons as to why the "chronological order" is bad and not recommended.
You completely miss-interpreted (or more like missed the point) of the chronology of events.
hiraganaa said:
anyway, i am much of theories and conclusions and maybe i will build a 100% feasible theory
anyway, i am much of theories and conclusions and maybe i will build a 100% feasible theory
I was about to quote you on that as well.
I highly suggest you to go read all the Visual Novels/Light Novels/Mangas of the Sci-Adv Series. (https://www.kirikiribasara.com/what-is-sciadv/)
You will learn a lot of crazy things about the characters/worlds you think you understood in Steins;Gate , and makes all possible "theory" you can think of meaningless. (The Youen no Valhalla Light Novel , or the Boukan no Rebellion Manga can be a good starting point for that. Onshuu no Brownian Motion Manga is also very beloved.)
| @Alexioos95 Thanks for the help, although I don't think I'm killing the "core" of the show, I know it's a mystery but let's not confuse things What I'm trying to explain is why Stein Gate 0 can happen both before Chapter 1 and after Chapter 22 Anyway, let's leave this here, thanks for the help and your recommendations, they're really going to help me, those light novels and SciADV in general |
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@Alexioos95 Thanks for the help, although I don't think I'm killing the "core" of the show, I know it's a mystery but let's not confuse things
What I'm trying to explain is why Stein Gate 0 can happen both before Chapter 1 and after Chapter 22
Anyway, let's leave this here, thanks for the help and your recommendations, they're really going to help me, those light novels and SciADV in general
What I'm trying to explain is why Stein Gate 0 can happen both before Chapter 1 and after Chapter 22
Anyway, let's leave this here, thanks for the help and your recommendations, they're really going to help me, those light novels and SciADV in general
hiraganaa said: Thanks for the help, although I don't think I'm killing the "core" of the show, I know it's a mystery but let's not confuse things What I'm trying to explain is why Stein Gate 0 can happen both before Chapter 1 and after Chapter 22 @Alexioos95 is right, I cannot really add more to it what he said. Steins;Gate 0 takes place before the entirety of Steins;Gate. It cannot happen after Ep22, since in Ep22 he already has the message from the future. It is also true that the Okabe who we start to observe in Episode 1 isn't the first Okabe "who started it all". We never observed the first Okabe through any material. |
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hiraganaa said:
Thanks for the help, although I don't think I'm killing the "core" of the show, I know it's a mystery but let's not confuse things
What I'm trying to explain is why Stein Gate 0 can happen both before Chapter 1 and after Chapter 22
Thanks for the help, although I don't think I'm killing the "core" of the show, I know it's a mystery but let's not confuse things
What I'm trying to explain is why Stein Gate 0 can happen both before Chapter 1 and after Chapter 22
@Alexioos95 is right, I cannot really add more to it what he said.
Steins;Gate 0 takes place before the entirety of Steins;Gate. It cannot happen after Ep22, since in Ep22 he already has the message from the future.
It is also true that the Okabe who we start to observe in Episode 1 isn't the first Okabe "who started it all". We never observed the first Okabe through any material.
| @SciADV_Maniac Thanks for the help and for explaining, I'm really realizing that steins gate is part of sciADV in general, and there are even more series that are from the same universe, it's really confusing but I really like that there are more |
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hiraganaa said: and there are even more series that are from the same universe, If you are getting into SciADV don't watch those anime adaptations. They are really bad and they are not s good representation of the original material. Just use this site for guidance: https://originope.github.io/ |
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| IMO no, I love Steins;Gate, easily in my top 3 anime of all time. Steins;Gate 0 is honestly quite a dissapointment. It has matrix scenes that don't belong in Steins;Gate, Okabe is a wussy crybaby, Makise isn't really there per se, and the story is not nearly as interesting as the original. Maho is the only good thing about the anime. I really wanted to like it, but it's so painfully average as an anime compared to the masterpiece of the original. |
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hiraganaa said:
and there are even more series that are from the same universe,
and there are even more series that are from the same universe,
If you are getting into SciADV don't watch those anime adaptations. They are really bad and they are not s good representation of the original material.
Just use this site for guidance: https://originope.github.io/
| @SciADV_Maniac Thanks bro |
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Debnagan007 said:
steins geat story happen in between the original story' s in middle episode 22 and 23. you should watch steins geat 0. but watch fast original series episode 1 to 22 then the ova missing link, then stein geat 0 and then last 2 episodes 23 and 24..
steins geat story happen in between the original story' s in middle episode 22 and 23. you should watch steins geat 0. but watch fast original series episode 1 to 22 then the ova missing link, then stein geat 0 and then last 2 episodes 23 and 24..
No, it does not takes place between those 2 eps, and this order is the worst possible order someone can watch this
| @SciADV_Maniac I am baffled how people think it takes place between these 2 episodes. it's liked they completely missed the point. the whole final twist of 0 is that at the start you THINK it's an alternative ending that takes place after episode 22, but then by the end you realize the whole thing was a generation before the original steins;gate and is by all means a prequel. although, while I say "I'm baffled", I actually do kinda get it. on a technical level, the everything up to 23b would be basically identical to the first 22 episodes of the original story, even if all of it would technically be before the original series even starts, so It is fairly easy to get confused by it. |
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