Any story better than '"Berserk'" ?

Jul 7, 2023 6:57 PM

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I’d definitely say One Piece when it comes to story maybe not the same themes as Berserk but there are great themes in One Piece too, but if you’re looking for a great story definitely One Piece

I don't think so. I am already catching up to the manga. One piece is more about fights than story and character. Some themes are covered but not even close to Berserk.

hard disagree on this take. while I do prefer Berserk more, One Piece's characters are incredibly well developed. Like other people have said, the two series cover very different themes, but the characters are a major focus of the story, not to mention the depth of the plot itself. idk how far into it you are, but it's more Adventure than battle shonen. the battle shonen aspects are definitely turned up after the time skip, but there's a perfectly good narrative reason as to why.

Jul 7, 2023 7:23 PM

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Shairaajk said:

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Legend of the Galactic Heroes

Is it really good? I watched the first 2 episodes of it. It seems so slow and not great animation. Many say it is one of the best story told ever. I got hyped and this happened. What makes it so great?

The first two episodes of Legend of the Galactic Heroes are, by a wide margin, the worst two. I'd recommend watching the following watch order:

My Conquest Is the Sea of Stars (prequel movie)

Overture to a New War (much better retelling of the events of the OVA's first two episodes)

Episodes 3-110 of the OVA.

As for the animation, it improves over time, and the story is so, so worth it.

Jul 7, 2023 7:27 PM

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If you like berserk you will like blaster knuckle it’s short but good

Jul 7, 2023 7:40 PM

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Read Infinite Jest

Jul 7, 2023 7:49 PM

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Shairaajk said:

deadstardrew said:
I’d definitely say One Piece when it comes to story maybe not the same themes as Berserk but there are great themes in One Piece too, but if you’re looking for a great story definitely One Piece

I don't think so. I am already catching up to the manga. One piece is more about fights than story and character. Some themes are covered but not even close to Berserk.

then you are getting it wrong
one piece is not known that much of its fights
but because of world building, characters,story, mystery etc

Jul 7, 2023 9:49 PM

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the holy bible is a strong second

Jul 7, 2023 10:09 PM

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deadstardrew said:
I’d definitely say One Piece when it comes to story maybe not the same themes as Berserk but there are great themes in One Piece too, but if you’re looking for a great story definitely One Piece

My god these one piece fans 💀
I mean yea one piece is too good as a shounen but comparing it to a godly seinen like Berserk and saying it's better!!!! Nah bro what are you cooking 😭💀

Jul 7, 2023 10:10 PM

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Read Dorohedoro. This is the only manga I readed that can be placed next to Berserk in terms of story & art

Jul 7, 2023 10:57 PM

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Are you asking for things similar or better?

Angel’s Egg is a short movie that is a masterpiece and similar in its art and existential feel.

Oyasumi Punpun is generally better but I’d say very different.

Jul 7, 2023 11:23 PM

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If your looking for some really good dark fantasy and don’t care for heavy reading then I strongly recommend the song of ice and fire books (the game of thrones books). But if your looking for something more character focused shows/manga then I would recommend Vinland saga

Jul 7, 2023 11:49 PM

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Shairaajk said:

zach_veltri said:
Legend of the Galactic Heroes

Is it really good? I watched the first 2 episodes of it. It seems so slow and not great animation. Many say it is one of the best story told ever. I got hyped and this happened. What makes it so great?

It is. It's just old and a burner. But it wilm definitely be worth it.

Jul 8, 2023 4:48 AM

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I think it really comes down to personal preference and what you are looking for in a story, but in terms of writing... I consider Manga series like "Oyasumi PunPun", "The Climber", "Monster", and "Vagabond" to be a little bit better written personally.

But, like I said... It comes down to what you are looking for in a story.

Although... In terms of stories I liked more than "Berserk" personally? I think "Vinland Saga" is up there... Also I'd throw in "20th Century Boys", "The Climber", "Oyasumi PunPun", and "Pluto". These are my personal favorite Manga Stories that I'd put over "Berserk" but, you might think differently though...

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Jul 8, 2023 9:56 AM

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A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE
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-Human Struggles✓
-Tragic and Shocking Moments✓
-Incredible Characters✓
-Complex Story✓

Jul 8, 2023 3:20 PM

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well i consider oyasumi punpun to be the best story in general out there

Jul 8, 2023 9:29 PM

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I think everything is better than Berserk.

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Jul 9, 2023 1:26 AM

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In terms of similar setting mixing medieval and demons, Violinist of Hameln and Bastard. And unlike Berserk, second half there is more consistent

Jul 9, 2023 3:48 AM

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So are you talking about Story or Themes now?

There are a bunch that i prefer in story like Death Note. And theme-wise there is always Pheonix.

Jul 9, 2023 5:42 AM

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you can read vagabond, musishi, koukou no hito, jojo (especially after part 6) or one piece

Jul 9, 2023 9:18 AM

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Kubera the manhwa for me, if just barely.

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Jul 9, 2023 10:10 AM

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One Piece. The story is great, the characters are well developed and given the recognition they need. The world-building is undoubtedly the best in any manga. The artwork is also one of the best I've seen.

Jul 9, 2023 1:01 PM

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one piece slightly better imo

Jul 10, 2023 10:39 AM

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William_san said:
are there stories similar to Berserk?

answering a question by a question

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Jul 10, 2023 10:42 AM

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Usapz said:

William_san said:
are there stories similar to Berserk?

answering a question by a question

Thanks for stating the obvious.

Jul 10, 2023 10:43 AM

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Kvothe_1 said:
if u r up for stories outside animes and mangas.... then yea.... stormlight archives by Brandon Sanderson is.... it is considered the greatest in fantasy genre....and instead of just 1 it has like 3 protagonists....1 of whom has suffered too much like guts ....and the other 2 different but just as fascinating in their own ways ... it has amazing world building and a really hard magic system ....so yea...if u can 4 books of 1000- 1500 pages each.... then definitely.....

stormlight archives is "actually better" then berserk....

Could you... stop writing messages... this way... (theres nothing wrong with it, it's just really hard to read, for me at least)

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Jul 10, 2023 10:49 AM

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I've never read Berserk, but I know versailles no bara has been a great inspiration for the author.

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Jul 10, 2023 12:02 PM

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Shairaajk said:

zach_veltri said:
Legend of the Galactic Heroes

Is it really good? I watched the first 2 episodes of it. It seems so slow and not great animation. Many say it is one of the best story told ever. I got hyped and this happened. What makes it so great?

You watched 2 episodes of a hundred episode series. If everyone did that, amazing series like Monster and, yes, Berserk ‘97 would never be watched.

Jul 11, 2023 3:46 AM

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Vagabond, the climber and steel ball run are all on par with berserk, maybe not the same themes but all are great

Jul 11, 2023 5:09 AM

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Shairaajk said:

deadstardrew said:
I’d definitely say One Piece when it comes to story maybe not the same themes as Berserk but there are great themes in One Piece too, but if you’re looking for a great story definitely One Piece

I don't think so. I am already catching up to the manga. One piece is more about fights than story and character. Some themes are covered but not even close to Berserk.

Hmm I disagree. I see more themes in one piece than berserk. Mainly Fate Freedom and dreams. Dreams and fate were very well done in one piece story as a whole while freedom was done very well in certain characters. As for writing you can deny the writing masterclass in arcs like water 7 Arlong park saboady etc

Jul 11, 2023 1:59 PM

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Within it's own genre of Dark Fantasy, Berserk is pretty much S-tier... A Song of Ice & Fire (the "Game of Thrones" book series) is another dark fantasy S-tier, arguably even better. The works of Mark Lawrence or Joe Abercrombie might also scratch that grimdark itch of yours.

BUT if you consider ALL genres and every other medium, there are plenty of other works that reach the same HIGHS of artistry as Berserk, with less flaws too - just that they can't be DIRECTLY compared, on account of being too different.

Among TV shows - The Sopranos, The Wire, Breaking Bad, Chernobyl, Mad Men, Bojack Horseman, etc all come to mind.

Western comics - The Sandman by Neil Gaiman; Alan Moore's Swamp Thing, Watchmen, V for Vendetta, From Hell, & Miracleman; Hellboy by Mike Mignola, just to name a few.

Novels (excluding dark fantasy)- Frank Herbert's Dune series, Tolkien's Middle-Earth saga, Brandon Sanderson's Stormlight Archive, Stephen King's Dark Tower, Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time, Robin Hobb's Farseer series, Orson Scott Card's Ender quartet, etc are all G.O.A.Ts of their respective genres.

You'll actually find a FAR higher number of better-written works outside of the sci-fi & fantasy genres tbh. The Brothers Karamazov, Crime & Punishment, One Hundred Years of Solitude, War and Peace, Ulysses, The Stranger, Metamorphosis, No Longer Human, The Picture of Dorian Gray, The Great Gatsby, Wuthering Heights, Midnight's Children, The Handmaid's Tale, etc are all literary masterpieces.

With movies it's harder, cos unlike a TV show, book, manga, comic etc they have very limited time to give depth to their characters & breadth to their worlds & stories - but stuff like Apocalypse Now, The Schindler's List, The Godfather 1&2, Schindler's List, No Country for Old Men, There Will Be Blood, Incendies, Requiem for a Dream, The Lives of Others, Se7en, Zodiac, Memento, 12 Years A Slave, Hereditary, Whiplash, Alien etc still make quite the impact. Last year's "The Northman" had some Berserk vibes.

Jul 12, 2023 8:23 AM

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its same as every hero story just has extra gore and p0rn

Jul 12, 2023 1:46 PM

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Usapz said:

William_san said:
are there stories similar to Berserk?

answering a question by a question

I was being sarcastic.
Do u really think there are stories better than Berserk, I don't think so, that's why I asked the question.

Jul 12, 2023 6:04 PM

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If it is a story, Berserk is not among the top 20! A manga that has been published since the late 90s and has only one decent and excellent story arc!

If we talk about art and thematic atmosphere, Berserk is one of the best.

Berserk can be considered somewhat involved in the creation of the Soulsborne genre/subgenre if it comes to influencing other manga or other media such as video games.

Jul 13, 2023 3:49 AM

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William_san said:

Usapz said:

answering a question by a question

I was being sarcastic.
Do u really think there are stories better than Berserk, I don't think so, that's why I asked the question.

I've never read berserk, but with thousands of stories inside and outside the animamnga world and 8 billions subjective point of view, yes there is a story better than Berserk. This is being realistic.

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Jul 13, 2023 5:14 AM

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Usapz said:

William_san said:

I was being sarcastic.
Do u really think there are stories better than Berserk, I don't think so, that's why I asked the question.

I've never read berserk, but with thousands of stories inside and outside the animamnga world and 8 billions subjective point of view, yes there is a story better than Berserk. This is being realistic.

yeah sure why not,
but I said with respect to animanga world only.

Jul 14, 2023 7:24 AM

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No, There is no story better than berserk, Berserk is the ultimate peak of ALL of fiction

Jul 14, 2023 7:28 AM

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Well, I haven't read berserk, so I can't really say for sure, but I think the story of:

Made in abyss, BoJack horseman ,Vinland saga, Black sails and Monster are probably the best I have seen in terms of pure story/writing.

breaking bad is also up there, but it's lack of real "themes" may put it below for people who care about that.

everything that I mentioned here is a 10/10 in my book though.

but actually, there is one more.

ignore themes, characters, and all these other mombo jambo, if we are talking pure plot structure, pure "core story", I don't think anything can beat 13 sentinals. the fact that, that story functions on any level, is beyond me.

13 different main characters, dozens of high concept ideas that most stories would barely deal with 1 at a time, with the story going back and forth from middle, to end, to start, without telling you which is exactly which. with enough twists to melt your brain, and somehow everything works together. it shouldn't. it sounds impossible. but it does.

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Jul 14, 2023 1:06 PM

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whiteachi said:
A manga that has been published since the late 90s and has only one decent and excellent story arc!

It started in 1989. At least get that right. And it has more than one excellent story arc. The fact that most of you can't figure out arcs after golden age is your own fault. Last time I argue Berserk it took me double digits posts to explain Lost Children arc. I'm not doing that again.

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Even after many years one piece is still sticking with its main theme while berserk just got back to its main theme after volumes and volumes of aquatic bs
Lets not bring that topic up

Really? What is Berserk's main theme?

Jul 16, 2023 1:00 PM

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Za_Panda said:

-Saphiran- said:

It started in 1989. At least get that right. And it has more than one excellent story arc. The fact that most of you can't figure out arcs after golden age is your own fault. Last time I argue Berserk it took me double digits posts to explain Lost Children arc. I'm not doing that again.

Really? What is Berserk's main theme?

This describes it more or less in the right way

You do realize how vague this is right? And most of this stuff can be applied to bunch of other anime titles as well. You didn't need to dig it up from the net, I asked for your own interpretation of it, since manga explores many themes like religion, lust, power, sexuality, ambition, revenge, freedom, etc... The only reason I asked you this it's cuz you claimed Berserk at some point deviated from its main theme.

Jul 16, 2023 4:09 PM

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My Dress Up Darling

Jul 16, 2023 10:12 PM

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womanrspector said:
Read Infinite Jest

How is that book? I was considering reading it earlier this year but got turned away because of the length and because I was reading other books at the time.

Also my general recommendation for OP is the original Sherlock Holmes book series by Conan Doyle, great themes with a brooding atmosphere set in late Victorian England

Aug 14, 2023 11:52 AM

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TheFirstHunter said:

Shairaajk said:
I have always wondered if there is any story in the world covers great themes like Berserk. I need recommendations more than manga. Any form of media is acceptable.

Visual novel, The House in Fata Morgana.

W pick Fata Morgana and Umineko are goated

Aug 16, 2023 7:46 AM

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The strongest candidates from my favorites are- Lone Wolf and Cub, Blade of the Immortal, Houseki no Kuni, Historie, Eden: its an endless world, Monogatari series, Legend of the Galactic Heroes

For real life non-manga literature only the Russian Novels are on the same level (I believe English literature including Shakespeare is overrated as Hunter x Hunter)

If you want to reply to my posts, come up with valid arguments instead of ad hominem HIGHER LEVEL THINKERS ONLY

Aug 18, 2023 5:50 AM

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With a reread of berserk, I think my previous comments on berserk might have been too biased. Black sword, golden age and conviction arc were really that good.
However my point of berserk losing its points in story-&-characters and focusing more on the artistic side from kushan invasion arc is true

Its a preety good story, definitely not the best story. Hell its not even the best manga out there

And yes I still stand by the take of asoiaf being a massively better series than berserk in terms of story, characters and worldbuildings

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Aug 20, 2023 4:16 PM

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kushakashi said:

Shairaajk said:

Is it really good? I watched the first 2 episodes of it. It seems so slow and not great animation. Many say it is one of the best story told ever. I got hyped and this happened. What makes it so great?

nah, it's good but not as good as people make it out to be. i think it's cuz it's an 80s ova aka it was made during a time when 'quality standard' didn't have a meaning.

It's better than the great majority of things that come out nowdays.

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Legend of the Galactic Heroes
The House in Fata Morgana (Visual Novel)
Monster

These are probably the 3 best stories I've ever seen and that best explore their themes, especially Fata Morgana.

I love Berserk, but I don't think it is THE best story ever made.

Aug 21, 2023 1:37 AM

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rafasc33 said:

kushakashi said:

nah, it's good but not as good as people make it out to be. i think it's cuz it's an 80s ova aka it was made during a time when 'quality standard' didn't have a meaning.

It's better than the great majority of things that come out nowdays.

that's now saying much bro . . . best of today is like the lower end of mid back in the early 2010s

Aug 22, 2023 7:58 AM

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There is no other.

Aug 22, 2023 11:33 AM

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For an anime I'd recommend Mushishi, manga I'd recommend Monster, TV show I'd recommend Dark.

Aug 24, 2023 6:02 AM

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Shairaajk said:

zach_veltri said:
Legend of the Galactic Heroes

Is it really good? I watched the first 2 episodes of it. It seems so slow and not great animation. Many say it is one of the best story told ever. I got hyped and this happened. What makes it so great?

That is definitely the most overhyped story on here.

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in terms of character development, Tokyo ghoul is much better.

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