the ed song will be sang by Hololive Vtubers .

654unknown654 said:
Imagine hating on vtubers and still watch 2d anime girls lmao

KatsuraGrey said:
This is the first time, but hopefully the last

Seitaro11 said:
I couldn't care less

JUST_A_CRAB said:
Vtubers DON'T EQUAL 2D Anime girls. They're Completely different from each other. 2D Anime girl supposed to be a real human in a fictional world with personality, past and future WHILE Vtubers are real human beings
(My English Sucks)

DonutHunter999 said:
damm thank you for the information I had no Idea, I don't really watch or keep up much with nijisanji but it's very interesting no know, but I gotta say, just because you like anime or mangas doesn't really mean you necessarily like vtubers, but as a fan myself I would say that since it's kinda new in western community people aren't used to this type of content, I feel like it will get better as time goes

and your english isn't broken at all

JUST_A_CRAB said:
idk why your reply got so much controversy when you just stated a fact

Whisom said:
I'm a huge Hololive fan but even I can admit that this is certainly not the best foot that they could put forward, though I believe it's more a short coming on the part of the music and not the singers. The vast majority of idol anime songs/low budget anime songs or vtuber songs are extremely generic and formulaic. The music all sounds the same and you could literally have anyone sing them and it wouldn't make a difference.

Again, this isn't the fault of the singers or the vtubers, it's just the music that they're given. It doesn't sound like a song, it sounds like someone just threw a bunch of instruments and a recycled melody into a program and spit something out over a week. You see these types of songs all the time in Anime where the characters have to give a "performance" for 2 minutes in a random episode. They just hire an industry composer who churns these things out super quick. This ED in particular is more of a business move in my eyes. Hololive is bigger than this Anime/Manga, hell Aqua and Subaru alone are likely more popular.

Given the right composer/producer a good number of the Hololive girls are more than talented enough to put out a banger OP or ED that would fit in any Anime. Then you have singers like Suisei who are talented enough to sing for any of the big studios. Listen to any of her covers and it's blatantly obvious (Kakusei, Ranbu No Melody, any LiSA song, Psycho-Pass ED). Her original songs Ghost and Pieces could easily be ED songs too.

tldr don't blame the vtubers, blame the music.

DonutHunter999 said:
bro I gotta say you F it all up, I'm happy that they could sing a ED and I am also a fan of Vtubers but you just didn't handle it really well, I also agree the first comment was "toxic" in my opinions, since there are no valid reasons as to why he didn't like the song not being a very constructive criticism and it seems he didn't like because vtubers sang it, but god u couldn't handle this in a worse way

DonutHunter999 said:
???? really? I mean I can respect that but I wonder which ones you heard cause man they ussualy slap, well that's also what I hear from people that aren't really FANS, this aren't really my favorites but people really like "ERROR" from Towa, "天球、彗星は夜を跨いで" From Suisei, "excuse my rudeness but could you RIP?" from Calli and "Reflect" from Gura which are all original

JUST_A_CRAB said:
I listened to all of them and I'm confident to say they are mediocre at best, why? 1 . Their voices suck dick . 2 . The songs cliche af .

JUST_A_CRAB said:
So, you gave 3 reasons why his very normal comment is toxic
1. He judged the song based on the person not the song itself
2. He didn't give a valid reason on why he dislike it
3. He didn't gave a constructive criticism
So you're saying, You're not allowed to dislike a song ONLY if you listen to the song, give a valid reason why to you dislike it and give a constructive criticism And if don't do that you're a toxic person.
I'll give you my view on every point
1. Why did he assume the song is going to be bad? For a very simple reason BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT A REAL SINGERS THEY ARE STREAMERS.
2. So here's the thing, ppl like you for some reason wants everything to be complicated. Why would I think of reasons on why I dislike a 1:17 song. Like really, if you don't have a life, ppl do.
3. This point is just dumb really. NOT EVERYONE IS QUALIFIED TO GIVE CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM. You have to have an enough knowledge on the subject. For example, A doctor cannot give an architect a constructive criticism since he/she doesn't know shit about architecture shit.

DonutHunter999 said:
to be very honest I have no idea to why you think their songs all sound the same, they are all very different but sure, but if I have to say something, I think what they did wrong was on the choice of singers, I think aqua is a very great singer with a beautiful voice but neither subaru or nene were the best choices, I would love to see suisei, towa or okayu singing this instead of them

Whisom said:


I think you misunderstood, I wasn't talking about the girls' original music that they've done with Hololive, those usually have personality and proper producers behind them. I was criticizing the generic "cute anime girl" songs that you find everywhere, not just in the vtuber space. Those all sound exactly the same, are written in less than a week and you can tell.

I'm just going to leave this here for anyone who thinks vtubers can't sing an ED

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9moBYCZWR8

normiewatcher56 said:
Am I late to this toxic fest?

Saga22 said:
This is the first time, but hopefully the last

And if you want the reason, I have listened them singing, is not good. It sounds like generic idol music, but worse. Just having a better than average singing voice doesn't mean that is even fine to be a vocalist, there´re millions of people with their voice quality, and that is what hololive fans fail to noticed because of their fan blindness and the brand that Hololive have created.

MrJc said:


My guy there are literally 10s of Millions of fans of vtubers I really wouldn't classify it as a minority. They've been around for years already and are just now getting their major boom. I highly doubt they are just going to "go out of style pretty quickly"

The author of this MANGA dose vtuber work on her free time and Collab's with them as well.

The amount of money some of these girls bring in is insane as well. Kiryu Coco's graduation stream alone brought in over 300 thousand dollars. that's not even including merch sales.

you probably are just getting old.

drakoneel said:


I noticed most kids born in 2001 can't stop themselves from posting their toxic opinions online. Wonder what happend that year.

jaredross said:
Not gonna lie I must be getting old. I can get watching streamers like cute girls who stream IN PERSON with the CAMERA ON THEIR FACE. Vtubers make no sense. I don't see the appeal and can see them going out of style pretty quickly. I like waifus from anime because their is a story around their character which is intriguing. Vtubers are like fandubs gone wild lol Sure, there are some fans of that kind of stuff. But they are in the minority. I'm hoping this doesn't happen again. I'm not a fan of vtubers but was really excited to see this show. Here's to hoping the song isn't bad. ^_^

J-Tea-Chugger said:
I love how some of this forum just became a "I was born in (----) year and so I'm better"

As for what this topic is actually about, they're pretty good songs. Not a Hololive fan and I don't think I ever will be but if the music is good I won't complain. I mean its an opening/ending even if it was shit I won't complain.

SpecterMAT said:
Well the ending song was pretty under average as the other vtuber cover songs.
They just cannot sing as good as other japanese singers who do openings and endings.
I just rather listen to somebody who is a real musician and not the "haha japanese idol cute singing" type of "musician".

The other reason I don't like it because the fanbase. They protect them like they are their girlfriend and they spam everything with vtubers "omg look vtuber omg omg look omg" and force down your throat this stuff.
Nobody cares.

I hope this will not be a trend because I would rather listen to talented people. That's all.

DonutHunter999 said:
I mean it's ok, no one needs to like vtubers, but the song isn't BAD, it's just generic cute anime girl ED song

jaredross said:


Wow, those are some serious numbers. It's funny how as the years go by quickly that one begans to lose touch with their inner child. Turned 30 a few days ago and I guess its just time to embrace the fact that im getting old T_T oh well, I'll try not to be too bitter and try to get with the new trends lol XD

Yuu_Kanzaki said:
Okay. I've listened to the ending song. It sounds very mediocre; nothing out of the ordinary like people said. I don't give a shit about constructive criticism because I know nothing about music, but they don't sound as good as a professional. If I don't like it, then I don't like it.

And yes, some of us don't want Vtubers to spread and what about it?

DonutHunter999 said:
yeah it's not the best I must agree, but it's mostly due to the choices of singers since neither subaru or nene are GOOD ones and the fact that it's generic cute anime girl song to which they didn't write, and to be honest, it's not even bad as I said, it's just generic

and you not wanting them to spread is pretty pathetic, you don't need to like them but that doesn't mean that you can wish for the worst for them

SpecterMAT said:


70% of the posts in this topic is yours.
That's what I am talking about.
Holofans cannot stop whiteknighting and if somebody does not like them it's "pathetic".
You are pathetic for white knighting this whole thread.
(They do not like to spread it because it gives birth to behavior like yours right now.)

People simply does not like the ending, neither the performers.
Live with it.

DonutHunter999 said:
yeah it's not the best I must agree, but it's mostly due to the choices of singers since neither subaru or nene are GOOD ones and the fact that it's generic cute anime girl song to which they didn't write, and to be honest, it's not even bad as I said, it's just generic

and you not wanting them to spread is pretty pathetic, you don't need to like them but that doesn't mean that you can wish for the worst for them

TweedleDane said:
https://twitter.com/Anime/status/1404083902046740480

this is the first time right ? i dont think i have heard off hololive vtubers singing anime op/ed s before.....

DonutHunter999 said:
yeah it's not the best I must agree, but it's mostly due to the choices of singers since neither subaru or nene are GOOD ones and the fact that it's generic cute anime girl song to which they didn't write, and to be honest, it's not even bad as I said, it's just generic

and you not wanting them to spread is pretty pathetic, you don't need to like them but that doesn't mean that you can wish for the worst for them