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| good episode but man that coin flip/bullet ricochet combo was extra goofy |
| that was some nice action...but no killings!? now that's a difficult feat! 5/5. |
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| guys, do you remember the episode where Sherlock was holding a gun but couldn't fire? was it in this season or the previous one or is it just my imagination? I couldn't find that scene lol |
| The Moriarty brothers are such a paradox; they're so kind and selfless in that they're willing to destroy themselves to save the weak and powerless of London and yet at the same time they're so cold, violent and terrifying. Is it just me or are Moran & Bonde quickly becoming one of the best bromances of this anime? Considering how much they seem to dislike each other at first, they're so in sync now and make a kickass team. |
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| Even if this episode was filled with questionable moments (such as the coin flip x bullet scene xD) I thought this one was pretty good episode, we got new characters such as Milverton and Van Herder (who got an amazing voice *w*) and plenty of good scenes here and there such as the Moriarty Massacre. People can think whatever they want, but I am sure the anime will pick up it's sinister tone back. |
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dokidoki_bean said: The Moriarty brothers are such a paradox; they're so kind and selfless in that they're willing to destroy themselves to save the weak and powerless of London and yet at the same time they're so cold, violent and terrifying. Is it just me or are Moran & Bonde quickly becoming one of the best bromances of this anime? Considering how much they seem to dislike each other at first, they're so in sync now and make a kickass team. Anime cut the "hounds of the Baskervilles" arc which shows development for Louis and William but was understandably gory (lots of horribly killed children). It took place after the ship arc and shows both William's willingness to become the Devil to takes down all these evils (saving a pair of children too). Anyway, Milverton is here, so you guys know the actual main antagonist now. Sherlock and Moriarty's "conflict" is about the pursuit to save someone who wants the other to kill them. |
| Really well done, the fight of two brothers against the 8 was my favourite part. |
| They said ‘no killing’ then was the woman that master stabbed at the beginning just one of those already murdered prostitutes? If so what was that scream? Did Fred screech like that? 'Ω' Everything was cool and all but that coin flipping stunt just made me go from 😃 to 😐. What was that? It felt like I was watching some old cinema where the Hero defeated the enemy by this so-called cool stunt to save his Heroine.... That brother duo was amazing.  You just dug your own grave by saying that.  I can't take Louis seriously here. What's up with his outfit XD it's shaped like a frock and he looks funny XD |
| This anime is so enjoyable, and this episode was definitely the most badass one by far. That coin toss part was way too impossible but also way too cool not to be forgiven. I had to pause the anime. James Bond is really proving himself to be a great contender for best boy. Holmes' decision to tell the police that it was all Jack the Ripper's doing was interesting. The mysteries this season are less cheesy and a bit more elaborate than the ones in the first season which I like. I kind of wish they touched a bit more on the government papers Irene stole. This anime could use an overarching mystery threaded through the relatively smaller cases. Sherlock does add variance though. |
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| Masterfully done episode! I hope they continue the high-profile crimes/criminals. This 'Jack the Ripper' one was epic. |
| Honestly, the old man Jack Ripper was pretty damn impressive, being able to run so fast in such a long time - I could never lmao :)) I also appreciate the cooperation and talents between the other members of the Moriarty crew as well. THE COIN FLIP SHOTGUN COMBO!!!!! MORAN X BONDE WORKING TOGETHER!!!!!! "Hell has been deserted. All of its devils are right here."  Also damn, a new charater introduced and he looks COOL?!!?!?! |
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| I cringed so hard at the coin flipping trick... Same with William's "all the devils are right here" line. He's a grown up man. That kind shit is only tolerable when it's edgy teens doing it because you can just excuse it as a chuuni phase. Love how Milverton just announced his full name while talking to himself lol Was there really no better way to introduce him? Nice development with Moran and Bonde tho They make a cool team |
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| An action packed episode. Jack the Ripper vs the citizens and the police. A tag game which went on for a hour straight. Damn that old man is really something lol. And Bonde's kick with the coin with the help of Moran's accurate gunshot which destroyed the gattling gun was CRAZY. William and Louise's duo killing spree was fabulous, some nice shots and ended with an explosion. WHICH LED TO SOMEONE SEEING WILLIAM'S FACE. He'll probably will fuck up the plans of them or try something else. Jack is officaly a butler again xD Moran looks pale af. |
   “You yourself have to change first, or nothing will change for you!” ' |
| That bullet and coin combo is the best. Also overall this episode was pretty great. |
| I love this show logic with old man running away from people who wants to kill him for one hour with a bullet-proof black coat and the coin-bullet trick Bonde and Moran pulled off, is silly but it's highly entertaining silliness. Fred cosplaying as Jack The Ripper was funny too. |
| this show is so over the top and ridiculous but in a good way lmao. highlight of the episode for me was the massacre by william and louis, some top tier (albeit very murderous) brotherly bonding right there. and william's sword was too cool, i live for his energy! |
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| Yard may be incompetent but they sure don't hold back seeing how they used a freaking Gatling gun which wasn't even the most over the top part in that scene (the coin shot was). |
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| Moran and Bond have chemistry tbh |
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| a new malefic character appears!!! kekeke |
Will_do_it_later said: Very much late, but in case you're still wondering. guys, do you remember the episode where Sherlock was holding a gun but couldn't fire? was it in this season or the previous one or is it just my imagination? I couldn't find that scene lol It's season one, the episode with Hope, and a flashback in the episode after, on the train (episode 9 and 10). |
Bidoof_PMD-EOS said: Will_do_it_later said: Very much late, but in case you're still wondering. guys, do you remember the episode where Sherlock was holding a gun but couldn't fire? was it in this season or the previous one or is it just my imagination? I couldn't find that scene lol It's season one, the episode with Hope, and a flashback in the episode after, on the train (episode 9 and 10). I can't even remember why I was asking about that, lol but thanks anyways! |
| I share pretty much the same ideas as: theGodde (post #36) However, probably in an even more pessimistic light. I was fine with episode 1-3, but episode 4 & 5... There's the 'more action' thing, but it just feels like the writting (for the characters, the dialogue is well said IMO)... I'd like to say that it's worse, but it really just feels like it stagnates. What the Rippers said this episode is the same as what prior vilains have said. Like, it was fine for the prior vilains because they were there to establish your main characters and the story structure, but that's done now. I won't go more into these vilains, because clearly, they're just lacking any depth. Then, how would killing prostitutes possibly lead to civil war? I understand that in could work in theory, but from what we've seen prior, we had no reason of believing that Scotland Yard would just not investigate a case for whatever reason relating to discriminatory practices. But we also latter learn during the puppet show at the start of the episode that they did try to investigate the first two murders? Like, why give up? I assume they didn't, in which case, the militia/peasants is angry because Jack isn't caught, and the police doesn't look like they're doing anything, not because the police isn't actually doing anything. That's not what the show shows us, though. So, that's for the conflict regarding Jack. Now, for the resolution. Again, disregarding the superhuman feets, impossible feets (such as destroying the gatling gun, and lots of other stuff which happen in anime/other medias at times), we have the origin of the militia and the police working together. First off, when we see Jack kill that woman, why would anyone belive that that's jack the ripper? Like, I get it, he killed someone, said he was Jack, and you're in the heat of the moment. But, like, would anyone in that circumstance actually reveal their name and taunt the armed men? Certainly not, and the way Jack the Ripper opperates seems to be much more covert. Like, it wouldn't be this whole affair if he bragged about who he was. And then, there's the fact that Jack doesn't do the signature Jack the Ripper thing with the stomach/whatever of the woman he killed. He just stabs her in the chest area, and leaves her be. AND THEN he jumps out from the rooftop in the middle of 2 sides that want him dead. Like, that's required for this to work, I get it. But nobody spectating this situation IRL wouldn't scratch their heads, asking why he didn't just jump to the other side of the building. Especially after his speach of '' I'm fine if you don't involve me in this mess''. And now, onto the cooperation aspect. Why is the police suddenly working with the militia? The police authority we heard clearly said that suppressing the militia is the one and only important task, and that letting Jack kill people was fine. I get that catching Jack would also stop the militia, but why is it different when Jack is in front of you, as opposed to when he's hiding? Then you've got the number of people involved. I have no idea if it's supposed to be in the low 20s on both side, or in the high 100s, if not bordering the 1000s. It's something that I don't really care about, but it also doesn't give a precise scale of how big the skirmish between the police and the militia is, which makes Jack's running around thing seem like it's way more minor than what it ends up being. There are 3 things that really give an idea for the size, being 1: When Jack almost turned the wrong way (which was horribly expositioned, by the way), where you can see that you've actually got 3 big globs of people, not just the 1 or 2 we had before. 2: When the gattling gun was brought in. Like, I'd imagine that you need a really threat for the gatling gun to be available at a moment's notice like that. And 3: When they alluded to the Bloody Sunday event, last episode. Not only do I not know the numbers involved, I would assume the bulk of the target audience is Japanese, and if not, then there's still only a small percent chance they're English, and so, would not know this. One could point out that this is a historical setting and that people watching might be more inclined to know, to which I reply that it's a detective story first and foremost. Anyways, Bloody Sunday reportedly caused: No deaths, 75 gravely injured, 400 arrested (using Wikipedia stats). It was 10,000 to 30,000 commoners against 2,000 police, and 400 military. Not at all what I expect when hearing Bloody Sunday, what about you? And then, there's Moriarty's brilliant deduction regarding the group behind this. Like figure this: 2 different people were last seen with 2 different victims, and now there's someone claiming they're both of them. I think the logical assumption is to either take this as a joke, or that it is an organisation. Brilliant deduction. And then, the reasoning for the logic behind the group. So, other than the fact that, as I've explained above, their reason doesn't make sense, so a good dedective would actually have no idea what they're doing, you've got the author litterally reusing the whole concept of Moriarty's character to help explain it away. This does come back up, at least, when Moriarty meets the Jack the Ripper org. but then they just reveal themselves to be the type of people Moriarty kills anyways, so no interesting takes there. So, all in all, I did not like this episode, nor the last (I will not get into why I didn't like the bank robbing thing, I don't expect anyone to actually want to read more of me bashing this series). Like, most of these complaints would be dropped if this show wasn't supposed to be a mystery based on Doyle's Sherlock Holmes novels. Hoping for something decent, but expecting the worst, for the next few episodes. Don't expect to see me commenting on an eventual season 2. (To clarify, although this discussion thread's name is 2nd Season, I'm almost certain that this is only part 2 of season 1) Edit: Btw, no, I don't think the show just turned bad. I think it has what it needed to set up the story, and it also had a great source to take inspiration from. It just can't do any more than that on the mystery front. If you recall, back on the train in the second to last episode of part 1, Louis was about to kill Holmes because he was acting friendly with his brother. Like, is that something a normal person searching to rid the world of unjustice thinks about? Then you've got the whole ''How will he explain himself away'' for Moriarty when Holmes declared that he was the person behind everything. That felt like it had such an obvious solution... and more. It's a visually appealing show, and the concept was interesting, but I can't say I could ever consider it to be a well written mystery. (Doesn't help that I can explain away that everything I thought made sense was taken from the original works, as I have not read them, so the author may be better than what I've been saying, but still) |
Bidoof_PMD-EOSJan 29, 2023 9:26 PM
| Wtf is this mess? the author could've just make this an isekai alternative world with nothing to do with Sherlock Holmes and that would be much better Everything went downhill pretty fast after Part 1, and sorry but Moriarty is an idiot, everything he presumes is instantly correct and all his plans work, nothing ever fails and no one knows what he is doing yet we get a shitty fantasy plan like this and still come out victorious for some reason I haven't thought about dropping an anime for years but this episode was so ridiculous and infuriating 2 more episodes to see if this is a complete train wreck or that it can be saved a little P.S: I absolutely hate Irene scenarios after her introduction, I don't know why the author went this far to force her to be around Moriarty. |
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