Jujutsu fans are so damn lucky

Blackkatsu001 said:
Have you guys seen jjk episode 19 ? it's really sad that AOT is just a side project for mappa and it's not getting the same godlike treatment as jujutsu. :(

Zprotu said:


Looking good visually ain't the same thing as having great animation although it is possible for both to happen at the same time (With the Imai super cuts in AOT for example). I agree that visually JJK is not anything special but its week to week animation, in general, is really smooth and in the fight scenes the amount of sakuga can be considered insane, while the only time we've really seen insane animation in AOT has been with the Imai supercuts but the reason they look better is that they are also insane with everything else in terms of art. I was speaking strictly on animation and sakuga while you are also bringing up other aspects of art if you know what I mean.

TLDR: AOT looks amazing but strictly speaking sakuga wise JJK takes the cake compared to everything bar the Imai cuts.

ArthurBragg said:
Alright here’s the truth JJK looked great today as it has many times before. MAPPAs AOT is probably not going to have any juicy sakuga like this. A few high frame scenes here and there but nothing on the level of JJKs complexity. Also JJK a looked great but still not on the complexity of WITs AOT. I still think that WIT has a large amount of sakuga in just its 59 episodes. See here: https://youtu.be/wSpJodJQjqw

Hiro4ka11 said:


Aot s1 still better (but s2 is above it)

JJk animation is nice too but the characters design is so simple so they can all out for the animation. meanwhile aot design is so complex.
just think about 3dmg gear.

as we know wit animation style back then was very detailed (Thick borderline,light shade on character, complex detail) but after season 2 the quality is dropping drastically.
and now they had military stuff + massive war
+ million collosal titan incoming

Zprotu said:
@Hiro4ka11

Can you spoiler tag the incoming stuff so you don't spoil the anime-onlies of AOT lurking here?

ArthurBragg said:
I would actually say that season 2 and 3 have some of the nicer animated parts. The transformations in season 2 and some of the ODM scenes in season 2 are really dynamic and with high frame counts. Season 3 does have less Sakuga but when it does, for example the Levi vs Kenny scene, it’s absolutely mind blowing that someone was able to think of that leg alone a team animating it. Also the battle of shiganshina has some of the most complex scenes when it comes to animation. Sure there are less of them but when they come the detail is insane. The frame counts are inane. The camera movements are insane. Levi vs Beast Titan was absolutely insane. Sure it was short but it did what it needed to do. There were some moments in the Marley arc where only a short amount of sakuga was needed to really elevate a scene to its maximum potential. Also with the time and effort put into season 1 I feel like the final arc could be done. Though unlikely as this production team is really pushed for time. I will say that JJK really impressed me today because of how consistent the animation was. The whole episode was filled with some really framy moments. Though I think the direction could’ve been more dynamic. This is why WITs attack on Titan impresses me so much.

Zprotu said:
@Hiro4ka11

Can you spoiler tag the incoming stuff so you don't spoil the anime-onlies of AOT lurking here?

MappaPrefersJJK said:
Hahaha let's gooo

Hiro4ka11 said:
don't worry i



Kenny chase levi is good (but in first half)
after that 3dmg scene is a bit awfull.
for example battle in the cafe (levi squad vs kenny squad) in season 3 3dmg animation seems like the rope is very long because they are talking very long in mid air (just like Naruto running on the tree forest scene) and mostly it just still image with moving background + gass effects

ArthurBragg said:
Again I think it’s the defining moments that matter. A system like ODM aid hard to animate so when they can they simplify it then I’m fine with it. I think WIT shows look good enough that when the animation is just normal it’s fine. I think seasons 2 and 3s sakuga moments outshine season 1. Season 1 overall is the best animated as it’s a lot more consistent but seasons 2 and 3 still look great it’s just mainly because of the shows general aesthetic. Lines look sharper and colours are more distinct in the later seasons. Character models also look their best. So I feel like it’s a pretty good trade off. Season 1: characters look pretty good animation is great throughout. Season 3: characters look the best out of all the seasons and the animation is amazing but only for the defining moments (main fights etc). Unfortunately MAPPAs AOT doesn’t really have any trade off. The characters look very off model and some of the character designs look kind of questionable. Obviously the animation isn’t amazing either and we have had no defining sakuga moments. Also there is almost a blurry filter over the whole show which kind of ruins the effect of MAPPAs line art. The colours are also a lot more blended together rather than very contrasty with WIT. This makes it harder to see the detail put into the drawings.

ArthurBragg said:
Again I think it’s the defining moments that matter. A system like ODM aid hard to animate so when they can they simplify it then I’m fine with it. I think WIT shows look good enough that when the animation is just normal it’s fine. I think seasons 2 and 3s sakuga moments outshine season 1. Season 1 overall is the best animated as it’s a lot more consistent but seasons 2 and 3 still look great it’s just mainly because of the shows general aesthetic. Lines look sharper and colours are more distinct in the later seasons. Character models also look their best. So I feel like it’s a pretty good trade off. Season 1: characters look pretty good animation is great throughout. Season 3: characters look the best out of all the seasons and the animation is amazing but only for the defining moments (main fights etc). Unfortunately MAPPAs AOT doesn’t really have any trade off. The characters look very off model and some of the character designs look kind of questionable. Obviously the animation isn’t amazing either and we have had no defining sakuga moments. Also there is almost a blurry filter over the whole show which kind of ruins the effect of MAPPAs line art. The colours are also a lot more blended together rather than very contrasty with WIT. This makes it harder to see the detail put into the drawings.

Hiro4ka11 said:


I disagree.

MAPPA character design are upgrade than s3.
my complain is just the lighting. its too dark
the animation too.i have many complain on season 3 because its lack of animation
wit using lots of still image. but in s4 they using animation even in dialogue scene(episode 2)
also wit can't handle massive crowd animations. but mappa did.compare grisha childhood flashback to current marley arc.
if necessary go back to Berthold S3pt2 transformation scene when they show up hanji squad charge to dying reiner. it just image with 3dmg gass sound.

for me animation is an upgrade (but if you don't gave cgi allergy)

Blackkatsu001 said:

Don't get cocky, Chainsaw man is coming and mappa soon gonna prioritise it over jujutsu.

ArthurBragg said:
Im not one to complain about the cgi. I feel like it’s the least of the issues I have with this season. Except for when it’s used on people. Yes the animation when it comes to dialogue is an upgrade but are you really sure about the character designs. For example they have just changed Levi’s bone structure in his face and they have completely changed mikasas literal whole bone structure. She’s literally a different build. Her nose looks way different and as a matter of fact that has a large effect on the differences between people’s faces. Season 3 looked so polished but season 4 just doesn’t have that same polish. Especially for a show like AOT.

Hiro4ka11 said:



oh if that case it is not off model.
we all know there's 3 years timeskip everyone has new appearance.
mikasa is still the same.the scene you pick is from moving scene so it won't get the point.(well literally all anime nose is same.so that's why anime has colorful hair and eye to made difference).
manga reader back then is complain about it too. new mikasa isn't too appealing

I don't know about levi. he still looks same but better (even he is already 30years old)

for better reference and shoot. check episode 9-10.
for past and then comparison.

oh there's one offmodel. its floch.

xenosys said:
To be fair to MAPPA, they have done an outstanding job with JJK.

I'm still not feeling the story at all, and feel nothing towards most of the characters, but the fight sequences are all extremely well choreographed.

If only they had an OST worthy of all these HQ episodes they're churning out.

xenosys said:
If only they had an OST worthy of all these HQ episodes they're churning out.

Sourire said:
I mean JJK has better art and is better animated than season1-3 of AOT as well. These threads are just redundant tbh.

Sourire said:
I mean JJK has better art and is better animated than season1-3 of AOT as well. These threads are just redundant tbh.

FMmatron said:


That's indeed still missing and it would be the icing on the cake. The OST's so far have been mostly serviceable, I could vibe with some of them, but only "Yuji's Rage" was really able to gave me chills.

xenosys said:


Yep, if it truly wants a Demon-slayer like episode, it needs to have an OST that hooks you and connects everything together. The OP/ED are great, the rest of it is just meh.

ReegrezSNK said:
We are more lucky cuz we like better anime, god blessed us with higher intelligence.

badmintona said:

People like you are the reason why AOT s4 sucks.

GoZha said:
MAPPA is doing their best with the production schedule they have

FMmatron said:
AoT had it's moment of greatness and at one point(hopefully after Shibuya Incident) the quality in Jujutsu will drop hard as well.

That said, AoT fans are overall still damn lucky.

Just look at One Piece and be grateful for what you have.

Nostalgik said:
LMAO
I'll explain

Jujutsu is a battle shounen with fights EVERY damn episode, it NEEDS great animation to be memorable because that's its main appeal.

AoT is a war drama, it needs good writing, directing and art. That's it

MappaPrefersJJK said:
Hahaha let's gooo

Elyxx said:
dude you are no better than anyone just because you like a different anime, i hope you were joking there

cchigu said:
Dude, OP's treatment by Toei is not even bad considering how bad other long-running shows look, tsk tsk Black Clover. And I bet you, if OP were to be seasonal, it would look way better since you know how big One Piece actually is and how much revenue it rakes in.

ReegrezSNK said:


If One piece were treated like Kimetsu no yaiba they would be the best battle shounen of all time with an unimaginable advantage, One Piece ---- Mount Everest----- Others.

imbAF said:


Nah man, One piece anime is a basic 7. The techniques they invent to waste time is just admirable. In an episode we have the opening, a recap of the preview episode, then we have people staring at each other for like 5 min, we see some buckets in a corner with which a cat plays, then we proceed to flashbacks where we see waves at the beach for like 2 solid minutes, then they scream, start to fight and end of the episode. Manga is good, but anime is just a big solid 7, but there are occasions or arcs where it gets better. One Piece anime is just an over extended rubber band, that keeps getting extended for no reason.

cchigu said:
Dude, OP's treatment by Toei is not even bad considering how bad other long-running shows look, tsk tsk Black Clover. And I bet you, if OP were to be seasonal, it would look way better since you know how big One Piece actually is and how much revenue it rakes in.