Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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| This timeline that Subaru returned too sure is a grim one. Hmm to think there were that many of the clones though. Still while they fulfilled their role their effects was too brief. Suicide to deny Satella her victory huh what a way to go. If anything Echidna did not lack ambition in trying to create artificial humans. Still the insight into Ryuzu prime was pretty insightful. Emilia's outfit that she wore when in the forest sure was pretty. When combined with the moonlight she sure looked divine. Im curious at what Subaru actually said to Garf but at the same time im really impressed at how Subaru was able to overcome Garf's anger that easily as he stated his aims and priorities. Hmm looks like Beatrice already deduced that her new master will be Subaru. Overall an interesting ep that focused on expanding the lore of sanctuary and its people while also setting the stage for Subaru's fight with the witch of Envy. Im quite curious to see what will happen next as Beatrice's skills will bring a lot more options to Subaru's plans. |
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| THE CHASE IS ON! Subaru's attempt with Garfiel to stop Satella from reaching Roswaal's mansion, and the non-stop "I love you" chants are just as creepy as the last episode. The Witch of Envy Satella (which is a given that Emilia looks like her), really engulfing Subaru's memories and digging them through like a plague. Return by Death many times you want Subaru, but the consequences get even more painful each and everytime, and seemingly back to his best checkpoint. Now that the plan's laid bare right infront of him, Subaru has NO second chance to redo the same death, so mitigation plans it is to stay ahead of the game while he still can (just like with Elsa). The depiction of the many Ryuzus (the old loli hag and her servants, ALL IMITATIONS of the enclosed vessel original) with Subaru about the witches of sin (including Satella), I'd think this will be a pretty good time to ponder her existence and relation to the things Subaru faced before Returning by Death. The "lover"' issue, please enlighten me, because surely that's stuff in the LN that the anime missed out on. EMT FTW, she truly is an angel in Subaru's life. Their sweet, sweet conversation was sorely missed after Season 1, and I need not say that it was a conversation of the same old "Confidence Man" talk to protect the one girl he admires and loves. Our boy is ready to act his sortie, and it goes without saying to the chagrin of easy-to-read Garfiel: to save Sanctuary with all that he's got. "I know Hell, I've seen it so many times. I'm the only one who needs to know hell. THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE FOR." - Natsuki Subaru Truly spoken like a confidence man ready to change the tides of fate with Beatrice. Another amazing episode, and the hype lives on to the midway mark. |
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anime-prime said: Dude ngl when I read the Web Novel I felt that they rushed the anime but atleast they didn't left out some important parts in the story.The entire "I love you"/"Love me" scene was pretty creepy. I doubt anyone would want to be put in that situation no matter how beautiful the witch may be. Again, another well done episode, but I am still getting an irritated feeling of how the episodes just move back and forth between locations, the sanctuary and the mansion, and not much is added in-between. Even though people have told me that this arc is two cours, and not just one, I feel like that just adds to my point a couple of episodes ago: That it is being stretched out. Even more so to fit a two cour show. Even if the light novel was also this stretched out, the anime is able to take liberties to condense the story if they wanted to. Maybe it is just the weekly factor. When I saw the first season, it was in a binge, so maybe I didn't notice if the pace felt too slow. But this season, which I obviously am watching weekly, the plot progression, while there, feels too slow. It has been ten episodes but it feels like it could have all fit into five episodes. Maybe after the show ends and I am able to binge it, then I can see if I have the same problem with the pacing as I did with watching it weekly. I will say this though: This show is really good at building mysteries that viewers can be invested in. |
| I have no idea how anything will end. There are so many things happening at the same time and no clear way out. The only thing that might be possible to connect is Satella and the story of a failed doll creation from Echidna. Maybe Satella is a failed creation? |
AnimeNerd99 said: Can anyone explain what that conversion between Subaru and Garfiel was all about at the end? TLDR: Garfield is still doubting Subaru's intention cause he suspect Subaru as Greed's lackey. Then Subaru said: "I've been thru hell" just like he did to Wilhelm in season 1. Same scenario, same problem solving. |
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IHadALifeB4This said: Yeah and I think thats important or maybe it didn't happen in the Light Novel because when I read the Web Novel, I remembered that The anime kinda left out the part in which But that could've been cut out for suspense and to be revealed later. This season has been amazing. Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. Mod Edit: Added spoiler tags; please hide plot details. |
anime-primeSep 9, 2020 10:53 AM
Tenshi163 said: IHadALifeB4This said: Yeah and I think thats important or maybe it didn't happen in the Light Novel because when I read the Web Novel, I remembered that [/spoiler]Subaru said that ' I will definitely save you" because he realized that it was emilia who got possessed by the witch of envy.The anime kinda left out the part in which But that could've been cut out for suspense and to be revealed later. This season has been amazing. they also kinda missed Emilia still showing palmface to Subaru in the episode. Idk maybe hopefully next episode. Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. Mod Edit: Added spoiler tags; please hide plot details. |
anime-primeSep 9, 2020 10:55 AM
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| Freaking amazing episode as well. I'm so stoked to finally be able to talk to Beatrice at the end! But damn I had no clue what they were talking about. What was last time about? Why did she expect him? And why is it ironic? I'm hoping it'll all make sense next episode. I loved the characterizations here a lot! |
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| it was a pretty good episode but i have to wonder, if echidna's experiment failed, then how come new copies are being made? and just so i'm clear, she creates all of these bodies to inherit her soul into in case the body she's in gets destroyed? |
Natsude_tanaka said: It's more complicated and anime skipped that part. Great ep!!! Correct me if im wrong so basically echidna goals is to get subarus return by death right because ryuzu was a failed? Echidna created copies of Ryuzu to be her new vessel but it turned out the body was too small to hold Echidna's soul. After some time Echidna did manage to find a solution (data compression) but did not manage to finished the experiment before she was killed. |
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mozgow said: So, if she wasn't able to finish the experiment, does that mean the Ryuzu in the crystal is not Echidna? Is the crystal some source of mana, and she's just involuntarily reproducing bodies as a result? Natsude_tanaka said: It's more complicated and anime skipped that part. Great ep!!! Correct me if im wrong so basically echidna goals is to get subarus return by death right because ryuzu was a failed? Echidna created copies of Ryuzu to be her new vessel but it turned out the body was too small to hold Echidna's soul. After some time Echidna did manage to find a solution (data compression) but did not manage to finished the experiment before she was killed. |
| Was annoyed that this is a pretty calm epiasode.. but after the shit that Subaru had to went thru in last few episodes.. I guess he deserves this rest.. Anime is trying its best to not to skip any imp part and is trying to condense which is rare considering most anime just straight up remove Monologues.. But we hope we get to see the OP or ED one more time.. cuz boi.. |
mozgow said: AND, sorry to bombard you with questions, but what exactly was that encounter with Gar and Subaru about? What is he trying to test him on, and whatnot? Is there some subtle thing that I might have missed?Natsude_tanaka said: It's more complicated and anime skipped that part. Great ep!!! Correct me if im wrong so basically echidna goals is to get subarus return by death right because ryuzu was a failed? Echidna created copies of Ryuzu to be her new vessel but it turned out the body was too small to hold Echidna's soul. After some time Echidna did manage to find a solution (data compression) but did not manage to finish the experiment before she was killed. And what made Subaru eager to head to the mansion now of all times? Sorry if this is a lot but my mind really struggles for understanding sometimes, lol. I get distracted really easy. |
TeamDalaiLana said: Totally agree the art got a little wonky the last few scenes. And subaru is always looking different design wise which is kinda frustrating because everything else is great.2 third of this episode was great (Satella scenes, the crystal scenes and the sanctuary experiments) but the end went down hill quick for me art wise Ngl. Subaru looks very inconsistent this episode lol. Corona strikes again???  It’s weird to me how he’s the only character shape shifting. I wonder if his design/proportions is hard to nail down between different animators. All of the other characters look the same. And the fact that we’re reaching the climax of the mid way point of this arc. I’m a little worried about the upcoming episodes (art wise). There are some really important scenes. The story is going to be great no doubt about that, but I don’t want wonky faces to ruin important scenes. |
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| Yoo that was pretty good episode, although I felt that it left me with more questions than answers lol. That handkerchief really came in 'handy' there 😏😏 So we now know that Ryuzu is just one copy out of many of the original Ryuzu Meyer, and that both Subaru and Garfeil are an Apostle of Greed. I'm sure Subaru will have some questions for Echidna when they meet text time. So hyped for the next episode, I'm hopping that everything with Beatrice will be explained cause I really need to know! Also the ED is a straight banger. |
arcticmontysSep 9, 2020 11:10 AM
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oblivious_22 said: No one really knows, even LN readers. There are some theories but they can't be said without any spoilers.I don't know what they are talking about in the entire series and what is the connection of echidna, Emilia and satella, cuz they all look almost identical, In the first season I almost believed that the Echidna was the real antagonist in the series but now it turns out that it was satella, really I'm little clueless here about the story can anyone explain me why Echidna killed all other other witchies and what kind of role is she even playing in the series, I'm really not getting it and why satella, echidna and Emilia look almost so similar especially emila and satella, Dorkave said: Subaru had three questions for Garfiel:AND, sorry to bombard you with questions, but what exactly was that encounter with Gar and Subaru about? What is he trying to test him on, and whatnot? Is there some subtle thing that I might have missed? 1. Why didn't he say anything about Witch's scent the day before. 2. How did he find him (this was a bluff because Subaru knew Ryuzu copies told him). 3. About a girl that look just like Ryuzu All those question were a test by Subaru to see what will get Garfiel angry. He was ready to be killed by Garfiel just to learn that. Dorkave said: He had two reasons to go there now:And what made Subaru eager to head to the mansion now of all times? 1. He decided to leave the trail to Emilia 2. He thought he knew quite a lot about Sanctuary and what was going to happen there, but almost nothing about Elsa's attack on the Mansion. |
mozgowSep 9, 2020 12:07 PM
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| Oh boy, talk about doppelgangers! It makes you wonder if there might be a relation between the witch and half elf. The fact Subaru has been resetting to the same point all series as well is a masterstroke in story telling as he is bit by bit uncovering more and more of the world. Really liked the Roswaal scene as well when Envy was consuming everything and he grabbed that book and said what he did. That really tickled my fancy on his understanding of what is happeningl. Awesome. not much else can be said about this show. |
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mozgow said: I should probably rewatch it to gather everything since it was a pretty big episode. Dorkave said: Subaru had three questions for Garfiel:AND, sorry to bombard you with questions, but what exactly was that encounter with Gar and Subaru about? What is he trying to test him on, and whatnot? Is there some subtle thing that I might have missed? 1. Why didn't he say anything about Witch's scent the day before. 2. How did he find him (this was a bluff because Subaru knew Ryuzu copies told him). 3. About a girl that look just like Ryuzu All those question were a test by Subaru to see what will get Garfiel angry. He was ready to be killed by Garfiel just to learn that. Dorkave said: He had two reasons to go there now:And what made Subaru eager to head to the mansion now of all times? 1. He decided to leave the trail to Emilia 2. He thought he knew quite a lot about Sanctuary and what was going to happen there, but almost nothing about Elsa's attack on the Mansion. |
Gorochu said: It will be explained later. But if you want to knowWait,so did Garfiel undergoes the trial and has met Echidna too? That is why Garfiel can control those Ryuuzu clone? Someone clarify this? Xenocrisi said: I have watched both OVAs and read the LN till the end of volume 20, but I don't know. I have some theories but nothing more.But why you guys haven’t watched the prequel before the first season? They’ve already explained the reason why Emilia and Satella look alike lmao |
mozgowSep 9, 2020 12:10 PM
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mozgow said: Gorochu said: It will be explained later. But if you want to knowWait,so did Garfiel undergoes the trial and has met Echidna too? That is why Garfiel can control those Ryuuzu clone? Someone clarify this? Thanks. The whole conversation is confusion to me. Confusion of da highest orda! |
Papa_ScorchSep 9, 2020 11:32 AM
WeabooFromNippon said: I really liked the episode though Im wondering how long is this season going to drag? Really hope it is more than what MAL is displaying. Yes there is also part 2 that will be aired in the winter season. |
Ushiromiya Battler, right now, on this island, no one exists except for you. You're the only one alive in this island. However I'm here right now, and i'm about to kill you. Who... am I? |
swordmaster2551 said: cenjo-san said: Holy shit . . . "I'm the only one who needs to know hell" that line gave me straight up chills. The only thing that ruined that line was Subaru's face. Why was is drawn so poorly? The animation in that scene was real bad but I guess they spent all their money on emilia this episode + rona I don't think money is the problem here actually. Some time ago there was announced that after episode 4 (episode 5 including) all the animators were working from home because of the pandemic. They were doing very good until now (even this episode) and that scene i don't think is was THAT "bad" but actually more like annoying because distracted us from the flow of the conversation. Hope they won't rush it like that and take a brake if is necessary even if it hurts at least the production won't be affected. |
Ushiromiya Battler, right now, on this island, no one exists except for you. You're the only one alive in this island. However I'm here right now, and i'm about to kill you. Who... am I? |
| Garfiel did the trial as well? I wonder if he also partook in Echidna's tea. |
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| Quite the dense episode, might have to rewatch it before next week's episode to make sure I really got everything that was dumped on us. Lmao "you don't know pain and suffering." Me: So who's gonna tell him? Oh Garfiel, Subaru's existence in this world is the definition of pain. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. MAL is literally just anime Twitter as its own website lol. |
| I've missed your first question :/ Dorkave said: Ryuzu in the crystal is the original Ryuzu. I can explain more but anime will explain it later (so my answer would be a spoiler).So, if she wasn't able to finish the experiment, does that mean the Ryuzu in the crystal is not Echidna? Is the crystal some source of mana, and she's just involuntarily reproducing bodies as a result? |
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novus_mihi said: Only respond if it isn't a spoiler. Please be kind. I have two doubts: 1) Why was Emilia not devastated? 2) Why was Elsa not at the mansion even though Subaru was (approx) half a day late? 1) The fear of her trial almost got her but when she saw a "true terror" on Subaru's face with his teeth and hands trembling she realized is not the time for that and took care of him who was visible in a worse state than her. 2) He wasn't late this time. From what i remember he had everytime a 3 days countdown till Elsa would have arrived so this time he got there with at least 1 or maximum 2 days before her. |
Ushiromiya Battler, right now, on this island, no one exists except for you. You're the only one alive in this island. However I'm here right now, and i'm about to kill you. Who... am I? |
| I have a horrible feeling that Emilia 𝘪𝘴 Satella; they look and sound eerily alike, Satella is obsessively in love with Subaru though she hasn't ever technically met him and Subaru was instinctively wary of Emilia when he Returned By Death. I found it strange that he said he wanted to 'save her' too... like he knows who she is. |
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katie_potaty said: I have a horrible feeling that Emilia 𝘪𝘴 Satella; they look and sound eerily alike, Satella is obsessively in love with Subaru though she hasn't ever technically met him and Subaru was instinctively wary of Emilia when he Returned By Death. I found it strange that he said he wanted to 'save her' too... like he knows who she is. Mod Edit: Added spoiler tags; please hide plot details. |
Koito91Sep 12, 2020 6:27 AM
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mozgow said: katie_potaty said: I have a horrible feeling that Emilia 𝘪𝘴 Satella; they look and sound eerily alike, Satella is obsessively in love with Subaru though she hasn't ever technically met him and Subaru was instinctively wary of Emilia when he Returned By Death. I found it strange that he said he wanted to 'save her' too... like he knows who she is. Oh I see, that was very clear in the episode Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. |
Koito91Sep 12, 2020 6:28 AM
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| "I know Hell." The best way to describe Subaru. This was a good episode, but yet not really much to talk about lol. I love when Subaru is in his bad-ass form. The level of resolve he has after letting out some tears and struggles he is going through shows his growth as a human. Not to many anime know how to pull that off. The only I know who does it to perfection is monogatari-series. We finally get to see Satella, but in honestly is wasn't that good of a reveal. In all honesty I was just confused. I mean she looks like Emilia (well duh), but it didn't have the same impact that the other Witches had. However, I did like how she got mad when Subaru said he rather love Echidna than her. Playing into her sin was a nice touch. I'm unsure if she was crying because Subaru killed himself or because she really hurt or something. Really weird reveal. The clone thing was okay. Kind of already figured that out. Garfiel possible doing the trail and meeting Echidna is a nice plot I would like to be explored more. Subaru seems to have made it a day or two before Elsa which is game changing. And last, the conversation with Beatrice is going to be interesting. I think the gospel lets her know about Subaru's RbD. Maybe lets her see the future? Idk, but either way I'm hyped. 3/5 |
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| Really nice episode, Subaru has really grown this season, he's looking a lot smarter, calmer and experienced now, probably beacuse of all the shit he's gone through. That conversation with Garfiel was just amazing. "I know hell, I've seen it so many times." that is probably one of the best lines I've read this season. This episode was basically a set up for the next few ones this season, there wasn't really a lot going on. By the way, I'm really excited for the next episode! |
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| How much blablabla can an episode fit!? The fact that Subaru has died so many times and still be scared of such small things is flawed since its natural to get numb over time. The fact that Subaru keeps reacting sad before he has seen if his starting point has been moved is flawed. Undeserved scoring and hype, albeit the underlying story is still worth something, the overlayed flood of random small-talk and unnatural emotions is frustrating since you can't empathize continuously. |
| What was suggested in season 1, got kinda confirmed today, but ofcourse there's a lot more to it that Emilia and Satella look alike. Pretty chill episode, but was highly needed after all these cruel events Subaru had to go through. Pretty much an info-dump a little bit. Was nice knowing what the story is behind Ryuzu and why there are so many of her. Emilia in that moonlight was amazing, simply gorgeous!! The final interactions between Subaru and Garfiel were great, was surprising to see Garfiel back-off after Subaru said that "He knows hell".. Now the battle at the mansion will soon happen again and the final interaction of the episode was the most interesting one.. I can't wait to see more of Beatrice in the following episodes!! |
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Fade_ said: How much blablabla can an episode fit!? The fact that Subaru has died so many times and still be scared of such small things is flawed since its natural to get numb over time. The fact that Subaru keeps reacting sad before he has seen if his starting point has been moved is flawed. Undeserved scoring and hype, albeit the underlying story is still worth something, the overlayed flood of random small-talk and unnatural emotions is frustrating since you can't empathize continuously. I don't thing getting numb with literally death is something realistic because yes he knows that if he dies he will come back but he is more scared of the way he will die not the actual act of death (at least the last 2 deaths were so abusive). The rabbit scene was so gruesome (imagine being eaten from the inside by those sh*ts) and the Satella death was literally her abusing his soul...the basic deaths became not so much of a deal for him but recently he only had f**ked ones like these two who were literally mental scarring deaths. |
EmillianSep 9, 2020 1:03 PM
Ushiromiya Battler, right now, on this island, no one exists except for you. You're the only one alive in this island. However I'm here right now, and i'm about to kill you. Who... am I? |
MarekaVista said: The last time they've met was in episode 2, when Subaru was questioning her about Roswaal.The ending part with Beako also confused me a bit when she was talking and subaru saying that he’s there for something different than last time. Does beatrice remember or is it just in the “Gospel.” |
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| When Garf said Subaru doesn't know suffering reminded me of the Subaru Kazuma conversation in Isekai Quartet rofl. |
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