Chihayafuru 3 Episode 3 Discussion

Nov 4, 2019 10:26 AM

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nanimeanswhat said:

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Well chihaya doesnt always win and that formula doesnt happen all the time. This formula didnt happen in the match against the selection for the tornmament against the queen in season 1 and the final match in the team finals. And she has won the first card multiple times against her opponents and she loses alot of important matches and when she does win its never always that formula.
Sorry for the long comment just voicing a disagreement against an opinion i dont believe to be true.

When she's facing stronger opponents, she always loses the first card. And we can confidently say that she has sucked in individual tournaments so far. This is actually the first time she has come this far in an individual component (she usually loses in her 2nd or 3rd match max), so I have hope that she might win against this woman. And whether she wins or loses, she always loses the first card against strong opponents, and this woman is damn strong, so she'll lose her first card.

"when she does win its never always that formula."

That's her losing formula though :D

I'm a bit confused, you said that this was her winning formula and that Arata was involved every time, and that only happened once.

If losing the card first against a stronger opponent one that is more skilled than her than that is very believable and she loses like you said but there are times that she wins when loosing the first card, so there is a variation and if there is a difference in result and the beginning is similar than there ceases to be a forumla.

Nov 4, 2019 2:11 PM

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Black_Sheep97 said:

I'm a bit confused, you said that this was her winning formula and that Arata was involved every time, and that only happened once.

If losing the card first against a stronger opponent one that is more skilled than her than that is very believable and she loses like you said but there are times that she wins when loosing the first card, so there is a variation and if there is a difference in result and the beginning is similar than there ceases to be a forumla.

Nope I said this is her losing formula. See:

"She'll probably lose the first few cards, then fall into desperation, then remember that time when she played with Arata, then get inspired and give her all but lose by 5-10 cards, like she always does when she faces important opponents. "

I don't think you understood me. Yes, she sometimes wins after losing the first few cards, but I didn't say anything about that. In every single individual tournament she participated in, she got eliminated with the same losing formula I wrote, over and over and over again. (happened in the 1st season since the 2nd one was focused on the group tournament)

Anyways. Let's wait and see.

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Nov 4, 2019 2:26 PM

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Such a great episode with a great cliffhanger of an ending. Didn't realise we're going to get another two episodes this week, so hopefully that'll be the entirety of Chihaya's match with the ex-queen! It's going to be so good *_* Loving the third season so far.

Nov 4, 2019 10:02 PM

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nanimeanswhat said:

Black_Sheep97 said:

I'm a bit confused, you said that this was her winning formula and that Arata was involved every time, and that only happened once.

If losing the card first against a stronger opponent one that is more skilled than her than that is very believable and she loses like you said but there are times that she wins when loosing the first card, so there is a variation and if there is a difference in result and the beginning is similar than there ceases to be a forumla.

Nope I said this is her losing formula. See:

"She'll probably lose the first few cards, then fall into desperation, then remember that time when she played with Arata, then get inspired and give her all but lose by 5-10 cards, like she always does when she faces important opponents. "

I don't think you understood me. Yes, she sometimes wins after losing the first few cards, but I didn't say anything about that. In every single individual tournament she participated in, she got eliminated with the same losing formula I wrote, over and over and over again. (happened in the 1st season since the 2nd one was focused on the group tournament)

Anyways. Let's wait and see.

yeah I clearly misunderstood but this formula for being a losing formula is also inconsistent as when she won against Reina in the finals of the team tournament she lost the first few cards and won. So this formula of loosing the first few cards also works in the winning aspect, since this variation can apply for different outcomes as shown by the series it isn't formulaic. So her loosing the first few cards and loosing the entire match isn't necessarily the prescribed formula. And in the first season there was a match where she was on equal footing with her opponent and then she got a confidence boost (the opponent) and won the match against chihaya. And in the first season she never taught about Arata during her matches that happened during the second.

She even lost by 23 cards, this supposed set formula is too arbitrary to be considered a formula.

Nov 5, 2019 1:52 AM

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Losing the first card isn't a matter of 'formula', it's the fact that if you're going to introduce a strong player, you want to show how they take cards as soon as possible. (And Chihaya's strengths and weaknesses have been cunningly chosen to make this not too surprising.)

Nov 5, 2019 8:45 PM

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This episode was very dynamic, the meetings were full of tension and former Queen Inokuma to be a latent threat, the same with Arata

It is good to see that Arata and Taichi get along despite the distance, it is fun to hear them talk about strategies to memorize the cards, but after Arata mentioned that he wants to form a club just like Chihaya and him, the conversation changed tone.

Chihaya and Taichi had very interesting and skilled opponents, especially Chihaya, but that little encounter with Inokuma made it clear that at some point they would face each other.
Sudo is a dirty player, really looking to win at any cost, it hurt me to see Rion facing this scumbag, but even so Rion gives him a good fight

When Inokuma was young, she was very cute, I love her eyes, they have an intensity that intimidates and obviously Sakurazawa is very well maintained, I feel that she has not changed anything, she is still a beautiful woman.

Arata, Chihaya and Taichi win their matches and move on to the next round, but now Chihaya will have to face Inokuma and I am sure it will be an intense encounter between these two talented women.

Nov 6, 2019 4:01 AM

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Black_Sheep97 said:

nanimeanswhat said:

Nope I said this is her losing formula. See:

"She'll probably lose the first few cards, then fall into desperation, then remember that time when she played with Arata, then get inspired and give her all but lose by 5-10 cards, like she always does when she faces important opponents. "

I don't think you understood me. Yes, she sometimes wins after losing the first few cards, but I didn't say anything about that. In every single individual tournament she participated in, she got eliminated with the same losing formula I wrote, over and over and over again. (happened in the 1st season since the 2nd one was focused on the group tournament)

Anyways. Let's wait and see.

yeah I clearly misunderstood but this formula for being a losing formula is also inconsistent as when she won against Reina in the finals of the team tournament she lost the first few cards and won. So this formula of loosing the first few cards also works in the winning aspect, since this variation can apply for different outcomes as shown by the series it isn't formulaic. So her loosing the first few cards and loosing the entire match isn't necessarily the prescribed formula. And in the first season there was a match where she was on equal footing with her opponent and then she got a confidence boost (the opponent) and won the match against chihaya. And in the first season she never taught about Arata during her matches that happened during the second.

She even lost by 23 cards, this supposed set formula is too arbitrary to be considered a formula.

Nooo you still didn't get my point lol
I'm talking only about individual tournaments. I've never said losing the first card equals losing the match, but even when she wins she usually loses the first few cards. And that's why everyone says she gets better as the game progresses because the more one-syllable cards are on the field, the better she does. What I wrote is what usually happens in her individual matches, not always, but most of the time.

And please, don't be so serious and offensive all the time, we're discussing anime, not politics. Chill a little. We can have different opinions, that's natural.

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Nov 6, 2019 8:50 AM

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Two Chihayafuru cards colliding was a nice touch, a sign of things to come.

Nov 10, 2019 4:57 AM

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Haha I don't really remember the curly hairpin guy, but he's interesting xD

Aww I'm liking this "silent" style Chihaya already, without excessive movement she'll have more stamina

Damn against former Queen already, the music is way too good
I'm lovin this, I need more episodes fast xD

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Nov 12, 2019 1:34 PM

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lol at Sudo being such an asshole to Rion, poor Rion... and Dr. Harada playing against the little girl

Nov 13, 2019 6:39 PM

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stand said:
lol at Sudo being such an asshole to Rion, poor Rion...

Isn't that why we love our resident Onigiri-girl?! Rion <3

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Nov 17, 2019 7:28 PM

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i forgot how hype this anime gets, seriously... so excited for this next match with Chihaya and the cat eye lady. they seem to be a similar type of player. i really hope Chiyaha wins this time because this lady isn't even in her prime anymore. the cat eye design and spiky hair ends really remind me of a character from a different anime but i can't quite place it

oh man these episodes fly by so fast, i'm scared that we'll be left on a cliffhanger

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Nov 24, 2019 4:12 AM

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Now that was an intense matches we had, I can't wait to see who is going to win.

Arata is still calm as ever, and Chihaya's new silent Kauruta style is definitely best for her, and use it against the queen.

Nov 27, 2019 7:13 AM

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I still don't like Yumin's attitude. Good that she lost. ;-)

Haruka is cool, I like her. Talented and she cares for her family. And her huge eyes are charmful. :D

Fighting with an ex-queen is gonna be really hard for Chihaya. I wonder if she will win her match.

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Nov 28, 2019 7:06 AM

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nanimeanswhat said:

Black_Sheep97 said:

yeah I clearly misunderstood but this formula for being a losing formula is also inconsistent as when she won against Reina in the finals of the team tournament she lost the first few cards and won. So this formula of loosing the first few cards also works in the winning aspect, since this variation can apply for different outcomes as shown by the series it isn't formulaic. So her loosing the first few cards and loosing the entire match isn't necessarily the prescribed formula. And in the first season there was a match where she was on equal footing with her opponent and then she got a confidence boost (the opponent) and won the match against chihaya. And in the first season she never taught about Arata during her matches that happened during the second.

She even lost by 23 cards, this supposed set formula is too arbitrary to be considered a formula.

Nooo you still didn't get my point lol
I'm talking only about individual tournaments. I've never said losing the first card equals losing the match, but even when she wins she usually loses the first few cards. And that's why everyone says she gets better as the game progresses because the more one-syllable cards are on the field, the better she does. What I wrote is what usually happens in her individual matches, not always, but most of the time.

And please, don't be so serious and offensive all the time, we're discussing anime, not politics. Chill a little. We can have different opinions, that's natural.

I still dont get the formula, if doesn't happen all the time then it isnt a formula, she has won matches even without losing the first few cards in individual tournaments usually against people she has more experience than.

I am being serious but I'm not being offensive I'm just arguing, what you're stating isnt an opinion though but a factual technical statement, you're stating that there is a formula the series follows and adheres too and that isnt an opinion cause it has nothing to do with liking or hating it. It based on evidence the show presents, but you've also adjusted what the actual formula is throughout the discussion, so if you could explicitly state the proper formula and point instances where it's been used than I can understand and agree.

Nov 28, 2019 8:14 AM

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Black_Sheep97 said:

nanimeanswhat said:

Black_Sheep97 said:

nanimeanswhat said:

Black_Sheep97 said:

I'm a bit confused, you said that this was her winning formula and that Arata was involved every time, and that only happened once.

If losing the card first against a stronger opponent one that is more skilled than her than that is very believable and she loses like you said but there are times that she wins when loosing the first card, so there is a variation and if there is a difference in result and the beginning is similar than there ceases to be a forumla.

Nope I said this is her losing formula. See:

"She'll probably lose the first few cards, then fall into desperation, then remember that time when she played with Arata, then get inspired and give her all but lose by 5-10 cards, like she always does when she faces important opponents. "

I don't think you understood me. Yes, she sometimes wins after losing the first few cards, but I didn't say anything about that. In every single individual tournament she participated in, she got eliminated with the same losing formula I wrote, over and over and over again. (happened in the 1st season since the 2nd one was focused on the group tournament)

Anyways. Let's wait and see.

yeah I clearly misunderstood but this formula for being a losing formula is also inconsistent as when she won against Reina in the finals of the team tournament she lost the first few cards and won. So this formula of loosing the first few cards also works in the winning aspect, since this variation can apply for different outcomes as shown by the series it isn't formulaic. So her loosing the first few cards and loosing the entire match isn't necessarily the prescribed formula. And in the first season there was a match where she was on equal footing with her opponent and then she got a confidence boost (the opponent) and won the match against chihaya. And in the first season she never taught about Arata during her matches that happened during the second.

She even lost by 23 cards, this supposed set formula is too arbitrary to be considered a formula.

Nooo you still didn't get my point lol
I'm talking only about individual tournaments. I've never said losing the first card equals losing the match, but even when she wins she usually loses the first few cards. And that's why everyone says she gets better as the game progresses because the more one-syllable cards are on the field, the better she does. What I wrote is what usually happens in her individual matches, not always, but most of the time.

And please, don't be so serious and offensive all the time, we're discussing anime, not politics. Chill a little. We can have different opinions, that's natural.

I still dont get the formula, if doesn't happen all the time then it isnt a formula, she has won matches even without losing the first few cards in individual tournaments usually against people she has more experience than.

I am being serious but I'm not being offensive I'm just arguing, what you're stating isnt an opinion though but a factual technical statement, you're stating that there is a formula the series follows and adheres too and that isnt an opinion cause it has nothing to do with liking or hating it. It based on evidence the show presents, but you've also adjusted what the actual formula is throughout the discussion, so if you could explicitly state the proper formula and point instances where it's been used than I can understand and agree.

Forget it. The point obviously flies over your head and at this point, I've given up explaining. Just read again, I think I've been clear enough. Or don't read. I didn't adjust what I previously said, I just tried to detail things and explain more thoroughly so that you could understand but you're still stuck at the "formula" part. You called it a formula first, I haven't said it's a "factual technical statement" or anything. It's not that deep. We're discussing anime, for god's sake. I said "usually", you know the meaning of that word, mate. Let's not argue further. I'm tired.

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Nov 28, 2019 9:55 AM

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nanimeanswhat said:

Black_Sheep97 said:

nanimeanswhat said:

Black_Sheep97 said:

nanimeanswhat said:

Black_Sheep97 said:

I'm a bit confused, you said that this was her winning formula and that Arata was involved every time, and that only happened once.

If losing the card first against a stronger opponent one that is more skilled than her than that is very believable and she loses like you said but there are times that she wins when loosing the first card, so there is a variation and if there is a difference in result and the beginning is similar than there ceases to be a forumla.

Nope I said this is her losing formula. See:

"She'll probably lose the first few cards, then fall into desperation, then remember that time when she played with Arata, then get inspired and give her all but lose by 5-10 cards, like she always does when she faces important opponents. "

I don't think you understood me. Yes, she sometimes wins after losing the first few cards, but I didn't say anything about that. In every single individual tournament she participated in, she got eliminated with the same losing formula I wrote, over and over and over again. (happened in the 1st season since the 2nd one was focused on the group tournament)

Anyways. Let's wait and see.

yeah I clearly misunderstood but this formula for being a losing formula is also inconsistent as when she won against Reina in the finals of the team tournament she lost the first few cards and won. So this formula of loosing the first few cards also works in the winning aspect, since this variation can apply for different outcomes as shown by the series it isn't formulaic. So her loosing the first few cards and loosing the entire match isn't necessarily the prescribed formula. And in the first season there was a match where she was on equal footing with her opponent and then she got a confidence boost (the opponent) and won the match against chihaya. And in the first season she never taught about Arata during her matches that happened during the second.

She even lost by 23 cards, this supposed set formula is too arbitrary to be considered a formula.

Nooo you still didn't get my point lol
I'm talking only about individual tournaments. I've never said losing the first card equals losing the match, but even when she wins she usually loses the first few cards. And that's why everyone says she gets better as the game progresses because the more one-syllable cards are on the field, the better she does. What I wrote is what usually happens in her individual matches, not always, but most of the time.

And please, don't be so serious and offensive all the time, we're discussing anime, not politics. Chill a little. We can have different opinions, that's natural.

I still dont get the formula, if doesn't happen all the time then it isnt a formula, she has won matches even without losing the first few cards in individual tournaments usually against people she has more experience than.

I am being serious but I'm not being offensive I'm just arguing, what you're stating isnt an opinion though but a factual technical statement, you're stating that there is a formula the series follows and adheres too and that isnt an opinion cause it has nothing to do with liking or hating it. It based on evidence the show presents, but you've also adjusted what the actual formula is throughout the discussion, so if you could explicitly state the proper formula and point instances where it's been used than I can understand and agree.

Forget it. The point obviously flies over your head and at this point, I've given up explaining. Just read again, I think I've been clear enough. Or don't read. I didn't adjust what I previously said, I just tried to detail things and explain more thoroughly so that you could understand but you're still stuck at the "formula" part. You called it a formula first, I haven't said it's a "factual technical statement" or anything. It's not that deep. We're discussing anime, for god's sake. I said "usually", you know the meaning of that word, mate. Let's not argue further.

Your first comment stated this:
Chihaya faces strong opponent-lose first few cards fall into desperation- remember arata gets inspired - still looses by 5 - 10 cards.

Here you didn't mention individual matches and the arata moment only happened in one instance.

The second comment is when you specify individual tournaments and that it's a losing formula , in every single individual tournament, so hence was either a modification or a clarification, regardless in the last point of my reply debunks that as in the first season she plays against someone in equal footing and looses in the individual tournament.

But I did make the mistake of considering team tournaments so you clarified me in your third comment but you also changed from every single instance to most instances.

That's not how a formula works , a formula is a repetitive plot structure where the set, progression and conclusion matches all the time in a plot event with different characters.

What you've stated is merely a possibility not a standard formula in the story a possibility that can happen to address conflict.

Like take your first comment, and include the specification of individual tournament instead of special matches, that is one possibility that happened only once in the series.

Jan 26, 2020 11:02 AM

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Taichi is such an over sensitive prick. Geez I cannot stand this guy. I want Arata to crush him mercilessly.

Introduces former Queen
Me: Oh, yeah! I can't wait to see Chihaya lose against her! [sarcasm].

These are the only two things I dislike about this story. 1. Taichi 2. Chihaya rarely wins against important opponents; every new opponent she always loses the first card (it's just too predictable and 3 seasons in I'm tired of seeing it.)

I Love the character development with all of the other characters, though.

Apr 5, 2020 9:08 AM

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Oooh a new character, and a former queen at that! She's gonna prove to be fierce competition in the future I'm sure! It was nice seeing Taichi and Arata talk to each other, but it didn't end too well unfortunately.

Lmao the dude with the hairpins

So many great matches this episode. I loved it.

Apr 24, 2020 4:14 PM

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Those eyes of hers were so big. But, she's beautiful and she's a former queen too!

Wandering Witch is the best light novel ever!

May 5, 2020 11:37 AM

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I don't really buy the "no 6 month traing" excuse considering that Arata was gone for 18 whole months and still was quite good when he came back. Most of the other matches were really underwhelming. The pink haired chick put up a better match than I expected, would be nice if they told us how they pulled it off...

The new character looks interesting. Nice to see that her motherhood doesn't stop her from partaking in karuta, can't wait to see how their match goes.

Jun 24, 2020 9:34 PM

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taichi my guy, keep on improving! dude is on a roll. someday you will hopefully not have an inferiority complex when it comes to arata, but not today lol. i like some more arata-taichi interactions.

of course chihaya gets paired with the former queen, time to learn about the former queen.

and rion just wants her rice, that's such a awesome line.

Mar 26, 2021 2:34 AM

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The final quarters...this is going to get tense. Good chapter, the ending is very good.

Jul 14, 2021 11:44 AM

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Quite the intense matches, really felt like this episode was just a few minutes instead of 22 min. Despite the Master runner-up guy having taken a break of half a year, its incredibly impressive how much Chihaya has grown seeing how she managed to defeat him (after recovering herself)

Oct 4, 2021 5:31 AM

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Hype! Can't believe how much I missed the intensity of these karuta matches ^^

Can't believe Chihaya's future dream is now to become a high school teacher so she can become a karuta club advisor! That brought tears even to me, can't imagine how that must've made her teacher feel. Although, what sort of teacher can she be with her grades lol probably PE or maybe Japanese literature if she can put in more effort in it.

Everyone's matches were so intense. I like this new steady, unbeatable Mashima. Arata winning against the Queen semi-finalist Yumin. Arata is still a monster.

But Chihaya... Just wow. All that left-handed play really helped her. She's on her way to grasping the style of karuta Shinobu-chan plays. And that final swing shot of her... she was just beautiful. That's the best word to describe it.

Hyped to see the match with this former Queen!

Jun 28, 2022 9:21 PM

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It's been so long since I watched the 2nd season, but it feels like I didn't stop at all. This show gets you pumped up like few others do. Love the competitiveness.

Feb 15, 2023 9:24 PM

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It's rare for an anime to make me want to skip sleep so I can watch the next episode, but this anime gets me every time. Love this anime. <3

Apr 14, 2023 9:05 AM

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Would be nice to see more Taichi and Arata interactions as childhood friends instead of love rivals, especially on Taichi's part.

Defeating a Master challenger is no mean feat (even if he was rusty), but beating an ex-Queen is gonna be a huge milestone for Chihaya. Speaking of ex-Queens, I'm glad Yumi's annoying argument strategy didn't work on Arata.

Jun 1, 2024 10:44 PM

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I whish Arata and Taichi could be just normal friends but I guess it's not easy for rivals. Though it's quite one sided... I don't know if Arata actually considers Taichi as a rival, I hope he does.

Oct 19, 2024 3:34 AM

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Chihaya and Taichi managed to enter the semifinals of the Yoshino tournament. Chihaya will face the former Queen Haruka.

Jan 25, 12:42 AM

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The love triangle continues....and I wanted to see Chihaya vs sensei...

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