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Mar 10, 2010 6:51 PM

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Wasabi said:
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I am flabbergasted with some commentaries above...

If you guys want blood and action, just choose another show to follow! ¬¬

To love this anime you need a big flesh heart, not one made of stone.

Here is my own personal view on why I am so disappointed with this show:

I saw the trailer for this last year and the impression I got from it was that it was going to deliver a somewhat profound war drama even if it has moe character designs. The music, the captions, the montage of the art in the show was telling me that it wasn't going to be super happy. But what did I get for the last 10 episodes? A story about a bunch of little girls living it out in some quaint little town making friends. The "drama" has yet to fully surface at all. The only episode that it remotely even showed off anything about the "war" was in episode 7 with Felicia's flashback. I was not expecting massive gore, massive action, but I was expecting a war drama, which this show has failed to deliver so far. If the trailer had instead showed a more slice of life approach with cheery music, then maybe I would see this show for what it is and then be relatively excited and surprised at the finale if it so chooses a dramatic end but no, I did not get what I was expecting from it.

And this show suffers from generic storyboard flow like most other shows of this length. Over half the show is nothing but the characters living out life with absolutely nothing going on with a poor amount of character development going on and then a rushed ending.
That's why they should finish it with war starting again and make a second season base on the impact the first season did to viewers......opinions can be seen on the net as well as from people buying the dvds if they choose to leave a comment about it.

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Mar 10, 2010 6:55 PM

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francismeunier said:
That's why they should finish it with war starting again and make a second season base on the impact the first season did to viewers......opinions can be seen on the net as well as from people buying the dvds if they choose to leave a comment about it.
Shit doesn't work like that. If it did, there would be a lot more successful second seasons out there.
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Maximatum99 said:
francismeunier said:
That's why they should finish it with war starting again and make a second season base on the impact the first season did to viewers......opinions can be seen on the net as well as from people buying the dvds if they choose to leave a comment about it.
Shit doesn't work like that. If it did, there would be a lot more successful second seasons out there.

And I am saying it should and they could use it as a good opinion.....it will be their stupidity when they make a second season and people will say Oh no moe and cute stuff again" You know what I mean.

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Mar 11, 2010 3:50 AM

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noteDhero said:
Leave my icy heart out of this. It's currently watching Nodame Cantabile.

Isn't your icy heart drooling over Yumeiro's tasty sweets? :P
Mar 11, 2010 6:15 AM

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francismeunier said:
And I am saying it should and they could use it as a good opinion.....it will be their stupidity when they make a second season and people will say Oh no moe and cute stuff again" You know what I mean.
You know, you are basically saying something completely against of what you said before.

you said:
That's why they should finish it with war starting again and make a second season base on the impact the first season did to viewers......
wtf is this I don't even.

So, use proper English, then no miss-leading whatsoever. kthnxbye.
Mar 11, 2010 6:20 AM

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So Rio is a Princess. I thought she just was a friend and apprentice of Iliya but she was her half-sister. Really shocking. Waiting hard for next episodes
Mar 11, 2010 7:21 AM

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ringoo4 said:
francismeunier said:
And I am saying it should and they could use it as a good opinion.....it will be their stupidity when they make a second season and people will say Oh no moe and cute stuff again" You know what I mean.
You know, you are basically saying something completely against of what you said before.

you said:
That's why they should finish it with war starting again and make a second season based on the impact the first season did to viewers......
wtf is this I don't even.

So, use proper English, then no miss-leading whatsoever. kthnxbye.

Well I meant impact as in what they liked not including moe cute stuff....guess I screwed up in my sense.....impact as in (what most left as impression other than any cute stuff).....that is what I meant.

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garfield15 said:
noteDhero said:
Leave my icy heart out of this. It's currently watching Nodame Cantabile.

Isn't your icy heart drooling over Yumeiro's tasty sweets? :P

That too.
mmmm...cake...
Mar 11, 2010 7:58 AM

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noteDhero said:
garfield15 said:
noteDhero said:
Leave my icy heart out of this. It's currently watching Nodame Cantabile.

Isn't your icy heart drooling over Yumeiro's tasty sweets? :P

That too.
mmmm...cake...
I prefer cheesecake better than any other cake......

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Mar 11, 2010 8:22 AM

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i felt so sad after watching...

why does rio have to leave? (did i miss it, or did she not say why she wanna leave?)

anyway 3 episodes left....
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Mar 11, 2010 11:30 AM

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Once again a bad episode. And stills all over the place, too. Are we supposed to sympathize with characters this stupid?

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Tatynin said:

To love this anime you need a big flesh heart, not one made of stone.

Shit, I knew I should have dropped this several episodes ago.
Mar 11, 2010 1:01 PM

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I loved this episode! For me it was pretty good - BGM and background designs - and the end was beautiful, I was looking for some anime like this for a long time, I hope the series end well though.

SnW fooled everyone's expectations, it was not a K-ON! remake, nor a full war anime or a complete slice of life neither, the anime shows its story into his own way, that's what I think now, and I liking it now.
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Mar 11, 2010 1:39 PM

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Maybe now we can get some action. Like in EP 7.

I hope the Rio really escaped. And she will not have to be the wife some old man in order to ensure peace. I wonder whether the girl will get some supplement.

Mar 11, 2010 3:22 PM

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This show should seriously lose its 'music' tag.
They just lured everyone in by cute character designs, girls that play 'brass'..
Seriously? Where? I've only seen two trumpets and that's about it.
Mar 11, 2010 3:47 PM

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desolato said:
This show should seriously lose its 'music' tag.
They just lured everyone in by cute character designs, girls that play 'brass'..
Seriously? Where? I've only seen two trumpets and that's about it.
I agree with you desolato but admit it at least that it fooled people pretty good.

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francismeunier said:
desolato said:
This show should seriously lose its 'music' tag.
They just lured everyone in by cute character designs, girls that play 'brass'..
Seriously? Where? I've only seen two trumpets and that's about it.
I agree with you desolato but admit it at least that it fooled people pretty good.
You know what they say.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, fuck this anime!
Mar 12, 2010 3:25 PM

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Not much character developement, but at least we got a bit more of hints. Although, for some reason that old lady really felt out of place.
Mar 12, 2010 7:26 PM

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So yea, Rio is probably the sister of the princess. So that's basically all I have to say for today.
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Mar 12, 2010 10:55 PM

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Ok, here is what is going to happen. New femal character introduced. Rio marries the evil fat emperor in Roma. In a fit of drunken rage said Emperor attacks Rio and in the ensuing fight they both die. The Emperor's evil son (they are all evil don't you know) decides that it is all Rio's peoples fault and launches the attack. General warfare ensues.

Episode 12 will show the tank completed and they girls (plus the new one, minus Rio) will gallently and or heroically (sp?) hold off the enemy sneak attack that will some how come out of the waste land thus helping the main army defeat the Roma army. At the very end of the battle all the girls except Kanata will die. End of the episode.

Episode 13 flash forward several years. Kanata is still stationed in the town and working on the damaged tank. New recruits show up. We also find out that the evil son of the Emperor died in the final battle, the good son took over and the war ended.

Bets anyone?
Mar 12, 2010 11:24 PM

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Faytz said:
I loved this episode! For me it was pretty good - BGM and background designs - and the end was beautiful, I was looking for some anime like this for a long time, I hope the series end well though.

SnW fooled everyone's expectations, it was not a K-ON! remake, nor a full war anime or a complete slice of life neither, the anime shows its story into his own way, that's what I think now, and I liking it now.


I think that the reason im enjoying this show is that I came in with absolutely no expectations of anything
and thus really dont care what happens as long as it is somewhat enjoyable
as for genres all I can pick out are moe/light drama/military life/Idealism. its not a clear picture of anyone of those genres so it will only be enjoyed by a very small portion of anime fandom.
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Mar 13, 2010 1:55 AM

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southdkotaboy said:
Ok, here is what is going to happen. New femal character introduced. Rio marries the evil fat emperor in Roma. In a fit of drunken rage said Emperor attacks Rio and in the ensuing fight they both die. The Emperor's evil son (they are all evil don't you know) decides that it is all Rio's peoples fault and launches the attack. General warfare ensues.

Episode 12 will show the tank completed and they girls (plus the new one, minus Rio) will gallently and or heroically (sp?) hold off the enemy sneak attack that will some how come out of the waste land thus helping the main army defeat the Roma army. At the very end of the battle all the girls except Kanata will die. End of the episode.

Episode 13 flash forward several years. Kanata is still stationed in the town and working on the damaged tank. New recruits show up. We also find out that the evil son of the Emperor died in the final battle, the good son took over and the war ended.

Bets anyone?

I bet more on a final war and Rio comes back to find Kanata alone with all else dead and the war is over.......your story is well good but I would take out any new character intros unless it will be for a second season one.....

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Mar 13, 2010 10:23 AM

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Again a slow-paced episode that's quite touching at the end. This show's pacing is quite a problem imo since it only has 13 episodes. If it spans over 2 seasons then I'd understand all this character development but if it isn't the case then I expect either a rushed ending or an insignificant one.
Mar 14, 2010 5:20 PM

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I really liked this ep kinda sad Rio has left hopefully she'll come back! xD

a season 2 please!
Mar 14, 2010 7:22 PM

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Woah, plot... kinda.

Rio actually leaving was the only thing I didn't expect to happen. I hope this series ends with a tragedy, but I don't see it happening. :\
Mar 16, 2010 5:44 AM

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Wtf was that?
my favorite character left the cast ; (
yesterday I felt like I missed a whole episode

well its nice that the tank is nearly ready for rollout

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I hope Rio dies; seriously. That would be really dramatic to see her fight like a Spartan then die horribly. Unfortunately for me, that ain't going to happen.

no thanks
thats not what I want too see
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Mar 19, 2010 8:00 PM

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I didn't want this anime to be about trumpets to begin with, I wanted it to be about war.

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Apr 1, 2010 10:15 AM

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I have one conclusion

Rio = Reki
-Fixing-
Apr 20, 2010 6:54 PM

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Awww it was sad to see Rio leave, bitter sweet episode!
Jul 7, 2010 3:59 AM

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CkretAznMan said:
So yea, Rio is probably the sister of the princess. So that's basically all I have to say for today.
Yeah, that's about all I got out of it. There hasn't been much character development for me care about Rio leaving. I mean, we've only known them for 9 episodes, before this one.



Dec 2, 2010 4:12 PM

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So, I knew Rio was Iliya’s sister, well, half-sister. And I guess she left because she’s going to marry the Emperor of that Roma for the sake of stopping the war thus saving everyone.
I really hope otherwise, I would want another kind of ending, one less predictable, and if there’s drama, it’ll be even better… And since Takemikazuchi is rebuilt with the missing pieces…

Other than that, I felt the episode somewhat empty.
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Dec 14, 2010 10:11 AM

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Oh wow. So they decided to throw in some cheap plot now?

Ehh, whatever. Bye bye, Rio. Even though I have no idea why you just left.
Jan 27, 2011 1:56 PM

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I don't know what's happening, but when i saw that old hag i thought: "Would be cool if she died." And she did, so I'm pretty happy about this episode. Also nice to see that they are runing out of money for animation and simply using static pictures.
Apr 17, 2011 9:56 PM

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Another really good episode and sad distraction from the normal moe~ I am really hoping that Rio makes a big comeback at the end but... I think they would like to torture us by not doing this or even killing one of the girls, I know it is completely impossible I know but still I am getting used to being lured in by Kanata doing something to let your guard down then going in for the kill XD

Love it but it's not fair how many times they try not make you cry for what is supposed to a light hearted anime ^^
Jan 8, 2012 8:16 PM

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Lol watching this again after so long, I barely remember anything O_O
The old lady ... I thought they were gonna show her footsteps going off a cliff or something O_O Did she just leave? Did she die? I'm so confused D:
Iliya is Rio's sister then? Ugh I'm so confused ... probably shouldn't go months / years between episodes LOL D;
Sep 4, 2012 12:39 PM

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This could've easily been the last episode.
Oct 2, 2012 7:16 PM

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Well, old lady seemed pretty much screwed but no body so maybe she just jumps out of nowhere in some other episode!

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Oct 16, 2012 12:27 PM

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That old lady's story was a tearjerker :'(

Also, Rio leaving was kind of sudden imo. I mean, it seems like she only said goodbye to Kanata and not the others?
Oct 18, 2012 12:46 PM
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I never expected to see Rio leaves! This episode was so emotional TT___TT

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Also, Rio leaving was kind of sudden imo. I mean, it seems like she only said goodbye to Kanata and not the others?


It sure was sudden. Perhaps that's how they wanted to make us feel. I think they just cut the scene where Rio said goodbye to the others and jumped right to the trumpet playing part. Remember there's a scene of Kureha and Noel having shocked expressions on their faces when Rio started playing? I'm sure that's because Rio told them about her decision to leave.

I'm gonna miss Rio so much :"(
Jan 29, 2013 3:13 PM

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Kind of suspected this, but a nice turn of events nevertheless. It was sad to see her gone. So she is probably gonna marry the emperor? I hope not.
I'm hoping for something like this:
Rio goes there, she is taken hostage and the Roman army still moves on (or not, it's optional). The girls go and get her back with the help of the Takemikazuchi.
Or everything's fine really, I just hope it will include some kind of a serious plot and at least a bit of action :)
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Reading the comments in this anime is rather misleading. While I am enjoying the show, I see pages worth of people complaining about how disappointed they are that character X didn't die or how absurd it is that character Y was wearing Z.

I was seriously starting to question my own tastes and wonder if I should like this anime, but then I clicked "view results" on the poll. Over 80% of voters rated it 4 or 5.

Vocal minorities suck.
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Reading the comments in this anime is rather misleading. While I am enjoying the show, I see pages worth of people complaining about how disappointed they are that character X didn't die or how absurd it is that character Y was wearing Z.

I was seriously starting to question my own tastes and wonder if I should like this anime, but then I clicked "view results" on the poll. Over 80% of voters rated it 4 or 5.

Vocal minorities suck.


I'm not loving it either.
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May 11, 2013 4:58 AM

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Wow. I'm ready for anything now.
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Laraso said:
Reading the comments in this anime is rather misleading. While I am enjoying the show, I see pages worth of people complaining about how disappointed they are that character X didn't die or how absurd it is that character Y was wearing Z.

I was seriously starting to question my own tastes and wonder if I should like this anime, but then I clicked "view results" on the poll. Over 80% of voters rated it 4 or 5.

Vocal minorities suck.


Thanks for pointing this out, and yes they do. This was probably the best episode of the series so far.

Everyone in this thread wanting the characters to suddenly run to front lines and die to create drama are insane. This show would honestly be terrible if it started killing of its cast left and right. This is a slow-paced slice-of-life/drama along the lines of Haibane Renmei, not a fast-paced action-thriller series like Attack on Titan. Learn to set your expectations people.

This series might not have enough time left to start up a full plot, but if the last two episodes are like this, it could yet be a great series. The animation felt a little lazy at times during this episode, and I'd like to know what exactly happened to that old lady, but this was otherwise a great episode with some interesting character exploration. Good drama set in an interesting world is all this series ever needed.
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So the old lady died by following the light which was supposed to be her lover coming back for her or she died by seeing the light and her spirit walks along with her lover's spirit along the snow. I'll just assume that she fell off a cliff trying to follow that light. I liked this episode too but the episode was 70% old lady and how she longed to see her son come back(which I guess is the illegitimate child she bore to that guy) and the part where she dies and her young self is whisked away by the guy's spirit and 30% Rio talking to Kanata that she's also an illegitimate child due to having Iliya as her half-sister and with barely any explanation except "Amazing Grace" was played and the part which Rio gave Kanata her trumpet and Kureha bawling cuz Rio is leaving. Could have been more balanced like 40/60 instead first 18 minutes old lady and last 5 minutes or so Rio and her sudden departure but I like the episode nonetheless.
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Pretty nice and touching episode, quite liked it! Let's see what's next.
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I didn't quite undestand why Rio was leaving, but nonetheless a touching and great episode. I hate that there's only two episodes left D:
Jun 19, 2015 9:08 PM

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im screaming this episode was so sad
the old lady died without ever meeting her son and Rio left like WHAT -
really good though

Nov 8, 2015 10:21 AM

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Okay, so Rio left. Whatever.

At least this episode had actual emotion in it, even though I didn't care.

Also, I like how they're using still-images for walking, of all things.

3/5
Nov 14, 2015 4:55 AM

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Rio-sempai.. :(
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Such a good episode, with multiple and well-executed themes intertwined. I can't believe Ryo actually left, though.
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