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Nov 9, 2013 9:49 PM
#201
That only proves that there's going to be another ending song for Episode 8, doesn't necessarily confirm that it's Mezameta Asa ni wa Kimi ga Tonari ni, although it's a likely possibility. I would love to see an opening change with new animation so I'm hoping it's a new opening song. |
Nov 9, 2013 9:49 PM
#202
lol Rin and Riki magically turned off the lamp posts one after another as they ran. Or is that how they work in Japan. :s |
Nov 9, 2013 9:51 PM
#203
TimeToRepent said: At first I thought Mezameta would be EX OP song. It looks like I was wrong... If I remember correctly, during KSL Live World 2013 they announced that LB! EX OP will be Little Busters! ~Ecstasy ver.~ |
Nov 9, 2013 9:55 PM
#204
Vladz0r said: I'm excited to see if they'll change the opening animations, and maybe have some more quality animation like what we saw in Kurugaya's route for some Refrain arc parts. I can't see the original OP animations working with Mezameta Asa ni wa Kimi ga Tonari ni, and seeing as the other Little Busters won't be much involved, I think a change could be goodbut we'll see. If they're using Mezameta Asa ni wa Kimi ga Tonari ni, then they will most likely change the animation. I don't think I've ever seen an anime in which the OP song changes but not the OP itself. Funya-Usagi said: How accurate is that site? I'd actually love to see it as an opening but, nearly everything points to it being a one time ED. The official little busters website still lists that its an ending. "第8話 ノンテロップED" Episode 8 creditless ED well i guess we'll see next episode. The site is accurate for the most part. It's like a sibling to VNDB. It's also like Wikipedia in the way that users can edit things on it. Wikipedia has an editing policy, VGMDB has moderators looking over edits that users make. |
Nov 9, 2013 10:05 PM
#205
Great episode. My only problem is that they showed Komari too much. And also How they show Miyuki |
Nov 9, 2013 10:14 PM
#206
Finished watching and my reactions are just WOW. Kyousuke deserves a beat up. He has destroyed a long time friendship in just one action. I really felt sad when the ending song started to play. But when the police arrived it really left me with more. I want to know the secret and what has happened to Kurugaya. |
Nov 9, 2013 10:23 PM
#207
Goods: - Cheap tricks - Komari on the rooftop - The track that plays before the whole basebull stuff - Daydream remix of "Boys Don't Cry - Lia's "Hanabi" - Riki carrying Rin on his back - Riki hugging Rin - The fireworks sequence with them as kids Betters: - Rushed. Mixed - Miyuki. I can see both sides of the argument, but this is what Team Little Busters! Refrain wants to portray. I won't argue with their artistic vision for the story. |
Nov 9, 2013 10:34 PM
#208
Fantastic episode. Man I wish I had not learned of little busters till after this was over so I could marathon both seasons and become more emotionally invested. |
Nov 9, 2013 10:39 PM
#209
So many mixed reactions everywhere I go, for the episode and for the series. I guess it's that I can see the development going on, but a lot of other people only see the plot details, and don't really get into the characters or whatever. Some people are too easily fascinated by better animated shows and direction, and that'll always be a reality. I can't say I don't typically enjoy better done shows, and I can't fully tell how good/bad they've been pacing the route. I still think that most lines of dialogue add some characterization and motives, and that in itself should be good and intriguing. I'm starting to get nervous about the pacing and direction of the bro arcs, now. The series demonstrated it could be appealing and compelling in Kurugaya's arc with how it was developed, but it sucks to see this episode lower rated than parts of that arc due to how they arranged the events of Rin's arc, budget, engagement, OST choices, etc., whatever anyone felt went "wrong" this episode. I hope they're working hard on Refrain for its release, and that it's as interesting an engaging as it was in the VN. I'm glad there are a lot of people who are really getting into the series, but it's still annoying to see that it hasn't managed to bring in the skeptics who will say LB Refrain is unemotional, mediocre, not compelling, not fleshed out enough, and say that Clannad was with its tons of simple story arcs, which I felt were superfluous, although believable due to the animation. I think most people just watch a show "in the moment", and people naturally put a higher emphasis on how well animated a show is, or rather, how realistic it "seemed." I mean, even if you could sum up the development of Refrain and get more than another show, if it was weirdly paced and people couldn't naturally enjoy it for whatever reason, then it might not really matter. Again, I just hope that JC Staff has a fucking clue that they need to do a good job with the major arc, the one that gets people to recommend the VN, and Maeda's masterpiece. I think they'll still screw up his storytelling with trying to simplify the narrative, but I hope it doesn't lessen the intended impact. Episode 11-12 is the real impact, and I at least want that to be amazing, and now have the sort of QUALITY that the last episode of Angel Beats had. And RediceRyan makes a good point. I think that marathoning the show, especially something long, climactic, and based on a VN such as Little Busters, will be much better from marathoning. The plot points will fit in more smoothly rather than getting segmented, development from previous episodes helps pave the way for the next, and pacing can become less problematic if the story is watched that way. I dunno. There are still just too many basic inconsistencies that could've been fixed with better budget and directing. I probably would not recommend this anime to someone who is capable of reading the VN. I keep thinking that the buildup of the first season should be more than enough for the events of Refrain to not feel rushed or forced with the way they were going. I mean, people feel like the baseball game between them was melodramatic or unexpected, when there have been a lot of hints for this kind of turnaround, and episodes 4-5 paved the way for the character shifts this episode. 6 months in between seasons might make things feel pretty forced if you've lost that attachment to the characters. There should be some attachment from s1 ;/ K, too much walls of text for me. |
Vladz0rNov 9, 2013 10:50 PM
Nov 9, 2013 11:30 PM
#210
Tasuku- said: TimeToRepent said: At first I thought Mezameta would be EX OP song. It looks like I was wrong... If I remember correctly, during KSL Live World 2013 they announced that LB! EX OP will be Little Busters! ~Ecstasy ver.~ I didn´t know. Thanks for the info. |
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Nov 9, 2013 11:52 PM
#211
Nov 10, 2013 12:10 AM
#212
Oh, damn son they actually all fought and Rin and Riki run away togetha. |
Nov 10, 2013 12:12 AM
#213
Episode 6: Great episode again, but i still got complicated feeling what i supossed to say for anime adaptation. In one way, i can say the fight against kyousuke is very good adapted, animation,feel, and each character interaction everything is executed well. But, in another way I'm bit disaponted because they pull all over episode in very fast pace, no, rush i mean. that's make me as viewer miss a lot fells toward characters, as example when Riki got lot message from Rin thats she wasn't doing well and lonely, when I just started to feel sad to Riki and Rin, and bang the scene changes. JC Staff should slow down their pacing a bit. For some scene got changed diferently from VN, I'ts not problem for me, i think they know what they do. In JC Staff we thrust! |
Nov 10, 2013 12:16 AM
#214
JimRaynor said: Vladz0r said: Ol-Hybrius said: Don't want to argue to a troll post, so I let this part out, but don't you think anime-only viewers already know most of the secret ? There are pretty much 4 main groups of anime-only watchers: 1.)Some people are actually trying to understand it and follow the character motives and catch the hints, and are enjoying the series. 2.)Some people are oblivious and just enjoying the series. 3.) Some people are understanding the Secret too well and don't think it's even going to be a good reveal in the end. 4.) And others don't know about the Secret, don't even try to make guesses, and don't enjoy the anime, follow the face value details and plot details too closely rather than enjoying the character motives. I don't want to give any names, but there are a bunch of people in this category. Honestly, the guys who aren't catching the hints and aren't enjoying the series are the people I'm most interested in seeing their reactions to come Refrain. Also, here's a fun Kyousuke pic: http://i.imgur.com/rhqv3OB.jpg ^This. The 4) people are just amazing. ROFL History is repeating itself I should say. Such as the Angel Beats!, Clannad After Story. There's always the same people who don't use brain at all when watching animes. My guess is some of those people will remain the same perspective and claim the anime is crap anyway, which I don't care at all. :) It's great you VN guys can group anime watchers in a similar way dictators does The same can be done to the VN/Manga Readers coming to the discussion feeling superior and having all the climax from it Both of you attacked the avatar and show behind it from the poster initially diverting it's attention to this actual episode Sure there are enjoyable moments/Arcs from S1 which are interesting enough to look forward to the next episode and the OP and ED (Songs) of Refrain are great Kengo's LB jacket is nice Was there ever a comment about LB being crap at all? Mediocre so far at least And thanks to the bunch sending spoiler pms trying to ruin the last 2/10 of this show |
Nov 10, 2013 1:06 AM
#215
1lau said: It's great you VN guys can group anime watchers in a similar way dictators does The same can be done to the VN/Manga Readers coming to the discussion feeling superior and having all the climax from it Both of you attacked the avatar and show behind it from the poster initially diverting it's attention to this actual episode Sure there are enjoyable moments/Arcs from S1 which are interesting enough to look forward to the next episode and the OP and ED (Songs) of Refrain are great Kengo's LB jacket is nice Was there ever a comment about LB being crap at all? Mediocre so far at least And thanks to the bunch sending spoiler pms trying to ruin the last 2/10 of this show Mediocre and yet you give it an 8? I'd give a mediocre show a 5-6, but I guess my rating scale's different. Never mind this point. Anyway, you essentially called this entire episode "forced" because it fleshed out the characters, and pretty much every bit of plot has been built up in some way over the prior 31 episodes, and I could go into detail to point out the buildup that leads to each character's decision. I'm sorry that you don't pick up on any of the 200 pieces of foreshadowing or even seem grasp the character motives at all. I truly don't feel like you're giving the show enough attention with the way you commented, so yeah, I did make the 4th category with you in mind. You just called these events plot conveniences and forced drama, and that's insulting to the writers who built up the show with prior plot details. I also feel insulted when the reasons why you call these events "forced" without giving a logical reasoning behind it. All you demonstrated was your lack of attention to the development of the show. Sorry about these people who are trying to spoil the VN. I never intended that. I'd like you to give this show a little more attention and try to follow the character motives a little more. They'll all be revealed in due time, and hopefully you'll realize what was going on all this time. The story is better and makes more sense the 2nd time, or if you know the Secret, but if you feel like the events that are happening are literally coming out of no where, then you're clearly not following the show logically. I probably should've just went the extra mile and wasted more time making screenshots to show the development of the characters and how the baseball game and runaway became the reasonable conclusion to this episode, but I'll let Refrain handle the explanations. If you can't trace character development that drives the plot to a natural conclusion, I don't feel like assisting you any further. |
Nov 10, 2013 1:37 AM
#216
1lau said: JimRaynor said: Vladz0r said: Ol-Hybrius said: Don't want to argue to a troll post, so I let this part out, but don't you think anime-only viewers already know most of the secret ? There are pretty much 4 main groups of anime-only watchers: 1.)Some people are actually trying to understand it and follow the character motives and catch the hints, and are enjoying the series. 2.)Some people are oblivious and just enjoying the series. 3.) Some people are understanding the Secret too well and don't think it's even going to be a good reveal in the end. 4.) And others don't know about the Secret, don't even try to make guesses, and don't enjoy the anime, follow the face value details and plot details too closely rather than enjoying the character motives. I don't want to give any names, but there are a bunch of people in this category. Honestly, the guys who aren't catching the hints and aren't enjoying the series are the people I'm most interested in seeing their reactions to come Refrain. Also, here's a fun Kyousuke pic: http://i.imgur.com/rhqv3OB.jpg ^This. The 4) people are just amazing. ROFL History is repeating itself I should say. Such as the Angel Beats!, Clannad After Story. There's always the same people who don't use brain at all when watching animes. My guess is some of those people will remain the same perspective and claim the anime is crap anyway, which I don't care at all. :) It's great you VN guys can group anime watchers in a similar way dictators does The same can be done to the VN/Manga Readers coming to the discussion feeling superior and having all the climax from it Both of you attacked the avatar and show behind it from the poster initially diverting it's attention to this actual episode Sure there are enjoyable moments/Arcs from S1 which are interesting enough to look forward to the next episode and the OP and ED (Songs) of Refrain are great Kengo's LB jacket is nice Was there ever a comment about LB being crap at all? Mediocre so far at least And thanks to the bunch sending spoiler pms trying to ruin the last 2/10 of this show Read the post #224. Anyway, someone sent you spoilers of Little Busters? Never mind, you could care less coz you don't see any of the foreshadowing and buildup in prior 31 episodes are important. So those spoilers don't effect you, then why you care about it? I can say the type of story you're not into. That's fine. Even some Key fans don't love either Kanon, AIR, Clannad, Tomoyo After, Planetarian or Rewrite. I mean, your point on Little Busters is invalid anyway. You don't like it or some people don't like it doesn't make this work mediocre. Look at the majority of the rating. |
Nov 10, 2013 2:38 AM
#217
I swear with the amount of Miyuki mentions in this thread and if she should've appeared or not is much more of a spoiler than the scene itself. The argument in the posts above is silly. Stop judging the anime from the first 6 episodes, and stop judging the anime on the 13 episodes where 7 have yet to be aired (hello VN players). Let people watch the show the way they want. I mean, if Refrain is as good as it is, any doubters will eat their own words anyway, right? Oh, and for any VN players thinking the story is foreshadowing too much: you're kinda contributing to the whole foreshadowing/spoiling by commenting about it, discussing how it differs from the VN and the consequences and whatever in these threads. I seriously don't see how it's so damn hard to keep any kinds of spoilers out of the episode threads, especially when you don't want anime-only viewers to lose impact from script changes, but eh. |
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Nov 10, 2013 2:43 AM
#218
I must say this episode made me think a lot less of ~Refrain~ than I did before (used to think it was an eight, now it's a six). They took two or three hours of content (Rin 2) and put it into four to five minutes. They completely shredded it and just made it the ending of the episode. I feel sorry for the anime-only watchers now. They're really missing out. The end of the episode should have been Riki back in school sitting at his desk (the way Rin 2 ended) because it would've been more suspenseful (trust me, it was better). I kind of worry about the remaining six episodes now. The fact that we saw what Kengo saw hints that we might not see Episode Masato or Episode Kengo (at least Kengo's, which was dull anyway). I wonder how much of Masato's backstory will be taken away now. I liked how they used some new tracks for the background music, it was pretty good. Animation was nice as well. I'm glad that the Refrain route is finally starting, but after watching their version of Rin 2 I'm only thinking we should have a few more episodes (sixteen or seventeen) for this season. I think that if we are to objectively compare, Kyoto Animation dominates JC Staff on their adaption of Key visual novels. I didn't like their use of Faraway in this episode either. That track plays in a very special place in the visual novel and I think that's the first time it plays. At the very least it plays so little before "that scene" that everyone associates it with that scene, and now it's hurting its effectiveness for when it will play. Oh well, it killed twenty three minutes and was free. Can't complain too much. There is always the option to re-read the visual novel. 2.5/5 stars for this episode. |
Nov 10, 2013 3:13 AM
#219
KeyIsLove said: I must say this episode made me think a lot less of ~Refrain~ than I did before (used to think it was an eight, now it's a six). They took two or three hours of content (Rin 2) and put it into four to five minutes. They completely shredded it and just made it the ending of the episode. I feel sorry for the anime-only watchers now. They're really missing out. The end of the episode should have been Riki back in school sitting at his desk (the way Rin 2 ended) because it would've been more suspenseful (trust me, it was better). I kind of worry about the remaining six episodes now. The fact that we saw what Kengo saw hints that we might not see Episode Masato or Episode Kengo (at least Kengo's, which was dull anyway). I wonder how much of Masato's backstory will be taken away now. I liked how they used some new tracks for the background music, it was pretty good. Animation was nice as well. I'm glad that the Refrain route is finally starting, but after watching their version of Rin 2 I'm only thinking we should have a few more episodes (sixteen or seventeen) for this season. I think that if we are to objectively compare, Kyoto Animation dominates JC Staff on their adaption of Key visual novels. I didn't like their use of Faraway in this episode either. That track plays in a very special place in the visual novel and I think that's the first time it plays. At the very least it plays so little before "that scene" that everyone associates it with that scene, and now it's hurting its effectiveness for when it will play. Oh well, it killed twenty three minutes and was free. Can't complain too much. There is always the option to re-read the visual novel. 2.5/5 stars for this episode. I don't see why so many people are upset about that part of Rin2 being cut down. Almost nothing happens during that segment. J.C. Staff put all of the plot important segments in there. Everything else was just slice of life messing around that would've just brought the whole story to a stand-still. Also, please don't bring up the 'Kyoto Animation would make a better adaptation' subject again. We've all said over and over again why that's not true and it's for the sole reason that they know they can't do it that they DIDN'T do it. Also, they didn't use a vocal faraway. They just used the instrumental, which has been used plenty of times in both the anime and the VN before Refrain. They used it at the end of Haruka's route in both from what I can recall. |
Nov 10, 2013 3:19 AM
#220
1lau said: It's great you VN guys can group anime watchers in a similar way dictators does The same can be done to the VN/Manga Readers coming to the discussion feeling superior and having all the climax from it You claim that Kyousuke becoming a villain was unreasonable and that his drama is forced. A bunch of people who know the story inside-out keep telling you that it's not forced, that there is a reason behind it and that everything will be explained in due time. So what is your basis for denying that even though you don't know anything? Do you seriously think the entire forum is just trolling you and that there will be no explanation whatsoever? Just have some trust an patience and watch how things unfold. Don't judge things too hastily. Seano299 said: Also, they didn't use a vocal faraway. They just used the instrumental, which has been used plenty of times in both the anime and the VN before Refrain. They used it at the end of Haruka's route in both from what I can recall. Yup, they used it at the end of Haruka's route in the VN. It would be a waste if they didn't. After all, the original japanese title of 'faraway' is 'Haruka Kanata'. |
Naoki-SatenNov 10, 2013 3:25 AM
Nov 10, 2013 3:41 AM
#221
Seano299 said: They just used the instrumental, which has been used plenty of times in both the anime and the VN before Refrain. They used it at the end of Haruka's route in both from what I can recall. I don't think Faraway ~Instrumental~ was used a lot in the VN. From what I recall, it was only used in the ending of Haruka's route, somewhere in Kanata's route, and the realization in Sasami's route. |
Nov 10, 2013 3:52 AM
#222
Tennouji_ said: Seano299 said: They just used the instrumental, which has been used plenty of times in both the anime and the VN before Refrain. They used it at the end of Haruka's route in both from what I can recall. I don't think Faraway ~Instrumental~ was used a lot in the VN. From what I recall, it was only used in the ending of Haruka's route, somewhere in Kanata's route, and the realization in Sasami's route. None the less, it's not too big of a deal if they decide to use it here and there. It's the vocal version that's the most powerful. As long as they save that for the appropriate moment, I don't think it's a problem to use the insturmental. |
Nov 10, 2013 3:55 AM
#223
Tennouji_ said: Seano299 said: They just used the instrumental, which has been used plenty of times in both the anime and the VN before Refrain. They used it at the end of Haruka's route in both from what I can recall. I don't think Faraway ~Instrumental~ was used a lot in the VN. From what I recall, it was only used in the ending of Haruka's route, somewhere in Kanata's route, and the realization in Sasami's route. Refrain spoiler : They used it when Masato disappeared too. I wonder if Song for Friend - Instrumental would have been better. There is an unused version of it which is actually pretty good also. |
Nov 10, 2013 3:58 AM
#224
JimRaynor said: Read the post #224. Anyway, someone sent you spoilers of Little Busters? Never mind, you could care less coz you don't see any of the foreshadowing and buildup in prior 31 episodes are important. So those spoilers don't effect you, then why you care about it? I can say the type of story you're not into. That's fine. Even some Key fans don't love either Kanon, AIR, Clannad, Tomoyo After, Planetarian or Rewrite. I mean, your point on Little Busters is invalid anyway. You don't like it or some people don't like it doesn't make this work mediocre. Look at the majority of the rating. The score is high now, because most of them are rated by VN readers Other people already dropped it before LB even started or halfway Current other shows this season has 2-5 times more viewers Yup, the story is mediocre to me so far, but that doesn't mean I don't like the other things like soundtrack, songs and visuals Vladz0r said: Mediocre and yet you give it an 8? I'd give a mediocre show a 5-6, but I guess my rating scale's different. Never mind this point. Anyway, you essentially called this entire episode "forced" because it fleshed out the characters, and pretty much every bit of plot has been built up in some way over the prior 31 episodes, and I could go into detail to point out the buildup that leads to each character's decision. I'm sorry that you don't pick up on any of the 200 pieces of foreshadowing or even seem grasp the character motives at all. I truly don't feel like you're giving the show enough attention with the way you commented, so yeah, I did make the 4th category with you in mind. You just called these events plot conveniences and forced drama, and that's insulting to the writers who built up the show with prior plot details. I also feel insulted when the reasons why you call these events "forced" without giving a logical reasoning behind it. All you demonstrated was your lack of attention to the development of the show. Sorry about these people who are trying to spoil the VN. I never intended that. I'd like you to give this show a little more attention and try to follow the character motives a little more. They'll all be revealed in due time, and hopefully you'll realize what was going on all this time. The story is better and makes more sense the 2nd time, or if you know the Secret, but if you feel like the events that are happening are literally coming out of no where, then you're clearly not following the show logically. I probably should've just went the extra mile and wasted more time making screenshots to show the development of the characters and how the baseball game and runaway became the reasonable conclusion to this episode, but I'll let Refrain handle the explanations. If you can't trace character development that drives the plot to a natural conclusion, I don't feel like assisting you any further. The score will be adjusted (if needed) when the final episode has been aired I don't downgrade scores just because there's 1 episode to dislike in a while Yeah I've seen the (Char) developments, hints like the dwarves and other moments so far The "Cheap Trick!" felt like "Usoda!" and it's being made bigger than it is, because it supposedly is from the VN as well I won't to rewatch the entire episode again to point out all the things I liked/disliked Some other comments has already pointed some of it out like rushed and more, but that's probably because this is only 1 couer and something hardly to blame on the Studio No comments from me on this episode anymore There has been more posts/replies than needed from the usual visits On to what's going to broadcast next |
Nov 10, 2013 4:29 AM
#225
Ol-Hybrius said: Tennouji_ said: Seano299 said: They just used the instrumental, which has been used plenty of times in both the anime and the VN before Refrain. They used it at the end of Haruka's route in both from what I can recall. I don't think Faraway ~Instrumental~ was used a lot in the VN. From what I recall, it was only used in the ending of Haruka's route, somewhere in Kanata's route, and the realization in Sasami's route. Refrain spoiler : They used it when Masato disappeared too. I wonder if Song for Friend - Instrumental would have been better. There is an unused version of it which is actually pretty good also. Also Mio's episode >< never really paid that much attention to that track until THAT (masato) scene |
Nov 10, 2013 4:37 AM
#226
Good episode. Refrain just shows once again that Little Busters can be good if you cut out all those retarded girls. The drama feels a little over dramatic or rushed at points, but the glorious music makes up for it. |
Nov 10, 2013 5:49 AM
#227
I'm surprised! I didn't expect that Hanabi is used in this show! If you don't yet know the lyric, you should check it. Good episode. |
Nov 10, 2013 6:22 AM
#228
Okay just finished watching the episode. As an anime-only viewer (though I'm currently reading the vn but I'm still on the girl routes), I don't see much problem with this episode. The baseball scene was great and I love how Masato isn't just some idiot who loves his muscle since that was what he was only until now. Wonder how Kyousuke made him fight with Kengo and Riki. And the ED with Riki and Rin is cute. Kinda reminds me of Afterstory when they were living only by themselves. For a second I thought the one who came to them were Masato and Kyousuke and they will force Riki and Rin to come back to them. One more point; VN players, would you PLEASE refrain from talking about what's about to happen in refrain arc? I know you're excited but there's the Anime-Visual novel discussion for that. Talking about those here makes us anime-only viewers predict of what's about to happen and lessens its impact on us. One good example is those "Cheap tricks" hype from last week. Sure it was my fault for asking what that "Cheap tricks" is but if you haven't mentioned and hyped about it, then I would never have been curious about "Cheap tricks". When I was watching that specific scene I was like, "Oh there goes that cheap tricks they were talking about. Owwwkaaay." Sure it left an impact but not by much because I was expecting it to happen. Another example is how you talk about episode Kengo or episode Masato. Now we got some hints of whats about to happen in those episode because you have been talking about it here in this tread which is supposed to be for discussing episode 6 alone. If your going to talk about what's about to happen do it in your tread dedicated only for you vn players who already know what's about to happen. It would be better if we anime-only watchers are left in the dark of what is to come so we would be shocked about revelations and whatnot. Once again, I am requesting you vn players to not discuss or hype things that are yet to happen. I see a lot of hyping and discussing of what is to come and it makes me feel that this whole Little Busters! ~Refrain~ part of MAL is being dominated by vn players. |
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Nov 10, 2013 6:28 AM
#229
-Riptide- said: Okay just finished watching the episode. As an anime-only viewer (though I'm currently reading the vn but I'm still on the girl routes), I don't see much problem with this episode. The baseball scene was great and I love how Masato isn't just some idiot who loves his muscle since that was what he was only until now. Wonder how Kyousuke made him fight with Kengo and Riki. And the ED with Riki and Rin is cute. Kinda reminds me of Afterstory when they were living only by themselves. For a second I thought the one who came to them were Masato and Kyousuke and they will force Riki and Rin to come back to them. One more point; VN players, would you PLEASE refrain from talking about what's about to happen in refrain arc? I know you're exited but there's the Anime-Visual novel discussion for that. Talking about those here makes us anime-only viewers predict of what's about to happen and lessens its impact on us. One good example is those "Cheap tricks" hype from last week. Sure it was my fault for asking what that "Cheap tricks" is but if you haven't mentioned and hyped about it, then I would never have been curious about "Cheap tricks". When I was watching that specific scene I was like, "Oh there goes that cheap tricks they were talking about. Owwwkaaay." Sure it left an impact but not by much because I was expecting it to happen. Another example is how you talk about episode Kengo or episode Masato. Now we got some hints of whats about to happen in those episode because you have been talking about it here in this tread which supposed to be for discussing episode 6 alone. If your going to talk about what's about to happen do it in your tread dedicated only for your vn players who already know what's about to happen. It would be better if we anime-only watchers are left in the dark of what is to come so we would be shocked about revelations and whatnot. Once again, I am requesting you vn players to not discuss or hype things that are yet to happen. I see a lot of hyping and discussing of what is to come and it makes me feel that this whole Little Busters! ~Refrain~ part of MAL is being dominated by vn players. I feel the same way my man. I want to see more anime only reactions :( Can we get a mod to like heavily monitor these boards? lolol |
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Nov 10, 2013 6:31 AM
#230
Nov 10, 2013 6:36 AM
#231
Funya-Usagi said: Use the report function liberally, and they'll do their best.I feel the same way my man. I want to see more anime only reactions :( Can we get a mod to like heavily monitor these boards? lolol Or, as a little bit of caution would say, just don't go to anime series discussion at all. At any rate, I enjoyed this ep. |
Nov 10, 2013 6:40 AM
#232
MellowJello said: Funya-Usagi said: Use the report function liberally, and they'll do their best.I feel the same way my man. I want to see more anime only reactions :( Can we get a mod to like heavily monitor these boards? lolol Or, as a little bit of caution would say, just don't go to anime series discussion at all. At any rate, I enjoyed this ep. But I would like to discuss this series to other anime only viewers like myself. Apparently this tread and the last episode discussion tread became Little Busters!: Refrain Episode 5-6 Discussion (VN players edition) |
Nov 10, 2013 6:46 AM
#233
-Riptide- said: MellowJello said: Funya-Usagi said: Use the report function liberally, and they'll do their best.I feel the same way my man. I want to see more anime only reactions :( Can we get a mod to like heavily monitor these boards? lolol Or, as a little bit of caution would say, just don't go to anime series discussion at all. At any rate, I enjoyed this ep. But I would like to discuss this series to other anime only viewers like myself. Apparently this tread and the last episode discussion tread became Little Busters!: Refrain Episode 5-6 Discussion (VN players edition) Honestly, I really feel like separating the episode discussions would be the best action. It'd be interesting to see how the scores differ as well. I don't think the VN veterans have any intentions for ruining the anime only viewers experiences, we just watch the episode and immediately see "episode discussion" and pour our hearts out about the episode lol. Also you've gotta remember that these guys are people who already know the plot, there isn't much to say about the episode in terms of "anime only" probably due to how the story is set up. (Theres a secret, this whole thing is supposed to come off as a mindfuck but all of us already know the secret so we don't need to discuss these things. There's literally nothing anime exclusive for us to talk about besides how they adapted certain scenes and if expectations were met.) Also we don't really use that other thread much to discuss the current episode (for some god forsaken reason. It's more of a speculation on how JC staff is going to adapt future scenes.) and alot of other VN veterans don't use it in the first place. Although, even then crunchyroll, reddit, facebook, and animesuki were also bombarded with VN ppl this episode. I mean, it's one of the most iconic parts so there's that. |
Funya-UsagiNov 10, 2013 7:00 AM
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Nov 10, 2013 6:52 AM
#234
Funya-Usagi said: -Riptide- said: MellowJello said: Funya-Usagi said: Use the report function liberally, and they'll do their best.I feel the same way my man. I want to see more anime only reactions :( Can we get a mod to like heavily monitor these boards? lolol Or, as a little bit of caution would say, just don't go to anime series discussion at all. At any rate, I enjoyed this ep. But I would like to discuss this series to other anime only viewers like myself. Apparently this tread and the last episode discussion tread became Little Busters!: Refrain Episode 5-6 Discussion (VN players edition) Honestly, I really feel like separating the episode discussions would be the best action. It'd be interesting to see how the scores differ as well. I don't think the VN veterans have any intentions for ruining the anime only viewers experiences, we just watch the episode and immediately see "episode discussion" and pour our hearts out about the episode lol. Also you've gotta remember that these guys are people who already know the plot, there isn't much to say about the episode in terms of the "anime only" probably due to how the story is set up. (Theres a secret, this whole thing is supposed to come off as a mindfuck but all of us already know the secret so we don't need to discuss these things. There's literally nothing anime exclusive for us to talk about besides how they adapted certain scenes and if expectations were met.) Also we don't really use that other thread much to discuss the current episode (for some god forsaken reason. It's more of a speculation on how JC staff is going to adapt future scenes.) and alot of other VN veterans don't use it in the first place. Although, even then crunchyroll, reddit, facebook, and animesuki were also bombarded with VN ppl this episode. I mean, it's one of the most iconic parts so there's that. Isn't the purpose of that tread is to separate the vn players with their worries and hyping about things that are yet to come? I know you have nothing to talk about in discussions apart from whether your expectations were met or if the animation was good and I don't mind that. What I would like to is if the hyping and list of expectations for the next eps would stop. Please use your tread for that. It worries me that we anime-only viewers might no be able to enjoy Refrain as much as possible. |
-Riptide-Nov 10, 2013 7:02 AM
Nov 10, 2013 6:59 AM
#235
-Riptide- said: Funya-Usagi said: -Riptide- said: MellowJello said: Funya-Usagi said: Use the report function liberally, and they'll do their best.I feel the same way my man. I want to see more anime only reactions :( Can we get a mod to like heavily monitor these boards? lolol Or, as a little bit of caution would say, just don't go to anime series discussion at all. At any rate, I enjoyed this ep. But I would like to discuss this series to other anime only viewers like myself. Apparently this tread and the last episode discussion tread became Little Busters!: Refrain Episode 5-6 Discussion (VN players edition) Honestly, I really feel like separating the episode discussions would be the best action. I don't think the VN veterans have any intentions for ruining the anime only viewers experiences, we just watch the episode and immediately see "episode discussion" and pour our hearts out about the episode lol. Also we don't really use that other thread much to discuss the current episode (for some god forsaken reason. It's more of a speculation on how JC staff is going to adapt future scenes.) and alot of other VN veterans don't use it in the first place. Isn't the purpose of that tread is to separate the vn players with their worries and hyping about things that are yet to come? I don't mind their reactions of the episode itself of how they didn't put this or that but at least don't hype things or tell what you expect whats gonna be in the next couple of episodes. It worries me that we anime-only viewers won't be able to enjoy Refrain as possible. Yes, that is the reason we have that thread. and trust me we DO speculate/hype up future events in that thread. It just reached over 2000 posts, and alot of us are die hard fans that actually come to these boards every day, myself included. Shit this board is literally my homepage, I check it more often than I do facebook. I'll tell you right now that alot of the VN veterans in these threads that are spoiling future scenes are not regulars of this board. In fact I see that most of the regulars are being pretty reserved towards future events. For alot of us, it's probably hard for us to not be participating in any form of LB discussion. Especially the episode discussions. That's why I'm only leaving 1-2 sentence impressions and i'm hoping others would start doing the same. Although an "Episode discussion - Visual novel" thread would probably be a good solution. |
Funya-UsagiNov 10, 2013 7:11 AM
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Nov 10, 2013 7:07 AM
#236
The end of the episode literally gets cut off for me while specs fly in his face and he hugs Rin, what did he say? It was something along the lines of "I realized..." And it stopped. o _O |
Nov 10, 2013 7:08 AM
#237
Funya-Usagi said: -Riptide- said: Funya-Usagi said: -Riptide- said: MellowJello said: Funya-Usagi said: Use the report function liberally, and they'll do their best.I feel the same way my man. I want to see more anime only reactions :( Can we get a mod to like heavily monitor these boards? lolol Or, as a little bit of caution would say, just don't go to anime series discussion at all. At any rate, I enjoyed this ep. But I would like to discuss this series to other anime only viewers like myself. Apparently this tread and the last episode discussion tread became Little Busters!: Refrain Episode 5-6 Discussion (VN players edition) Honestly, I really feel like separating the episode discussions would be the best action. I don't think the VN veterans have any intentions for ruining the anime only viewers experiences, we just watch the episode and immediately see "episode discussion" and pour our hearts out about the episode lol. Also we don't really use that other thread much to discuss the current episode (for some god forsaken reason. It's more of a speculation on how JC staff is going to adapt future scenes.) and alot of other VN veterans don't use it in the first place. Isn't the purpose of that tread is to separate the vn players with their worries and hyping about things that are yet to come? I don't mind their reactions of the episode itself of how they didn't put this or that but at least don't hype things or tell what you expect whats gonna be in the next couple of episodes. It worries me that we anime-only viewers won't be able to enjoy Refrain as possible. Yes, that is the reason we have that thread. and trust me we DO speculate/hype up future events in that thread. It just reached over 2000 posts, and alot of us are die hard fans that actually come to these boards literally every day, myself included. For alot of us, it's probably hard for us to not be participating in any form of LB discussion. Especially the episode discussions. That's why I'm only leaving 1-2 sentence impressions and i'm hoping others would start doing the same. I would hope that as well because I really want to enjoy Refrain to the fullest. I hope other vn players would read my rant about hyping and speculations and hope they do what I request so that we won't get hints of future events and be able to enjoy Refrain and what it offers. PS: I also come to this board everyday even though I'm not a vn player. That's just shows how much i like this anime and how much I want to discuss this with other people. |
Nov 10, 2013 7:15 AM
#238
-Riptide- said: PS: I also come to this board everyday even though I'm not a vn player. That's just shows how much i like this anime and how much I want to discuss this with other people. well that actually put a smile on my face, I'm very glad you enjoy it. and I can only hope that in the future, the others will try and act a little more reserved towards the episode discussions. |
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Nov 10, 2013 7:18 AM
#239
Loved the T_T, Loved the screams, Loved the evil eye sparkle, Loved the- ah what the heck I didn't want the ending to be rushed either but there's that damn time limit... D: |
Nov 10, 2013 7:19 AM
#240
-Riptide- said: Okay just finished watching the episode. As an anime-only viewer (though I'm currently reading the vn but I'm still on the girl routes), I don't see much problem with this episode. The baseball scene was great and I love how Masato isn't just some idiot who loves his muscle since that was what he was only until now. Wonder how Kyousuke made him fight with Kengo and Riki. And the ED with Riki and Rin is cute. Kinda reminds me of Afterstory when they were living only by themselves. For a second I thought the one who came to them were Masato and Kyousuke and they will force Riki and Rin to come back to them. One more point; VN players, would you PLEASE refrain from talking about what's about to happen in refrain arc? I know you're excited but there's the Anime-Visual novel discussion for that. Talking about those here makes us anime-only viewers predict of what's about to happen and lessens its impact on us. One good example is those "Cheap tricks" hype from last week. Sure it was my fault for asking what that "Cheap tricks" is but if you haven't mentioned and hyped about it, then I would never have been curious about "Cheap tricks". When I was watching that specific scene I was like, "Oh there goes that cheap tricks they were talking about. Owwwkaaay." Sure it left an impact but not by much because I was expecting it to happen. Another example is how you talk about episode Kengo or episode Masato. Now we got some hints of whats about to happen in those episode because you have been talking about it here in this tread which is supposed to be for discussing episode 6 alone. If your going to talk about what's about to happen do it in your tread dedicated only for you vn players who already know what's about to happen. It would be better if we anime-only watchers are left in the dark of what is to come so we would be shocked about revelations and whatnot. Once again, I am requesting you vn players to not discuss or hype things that are yet to happen. I see a lot of hyping and discussing of what is to come and it makes me feel that this whole Little Busters! ~Refrain~ part of MAL is being dominated by vn players. I agree completery. Some VN players expect the future episode. It's the same as spoiling! As for non-VN players, surprise and excitement become hard to be got... |
Sumeragi2673Nov 10, 2013 7:25 AM
Nov 10, 2013 7:22 AM
#241
LunoA96 said: The end of the episode literally gets cut off for me while specs fly in his face and he hugs Rin, what did he say? It was something along the lines of "I realized..." And it stopped. o _O To live means to lose. |
Nov 10, 2013 7:24 AM
#242
What a sad and painful episode. Rin's texts to Riki killed me on the inside... On another note, I'm pretty sure someone spoiled the Secret of the World for me(Crunchyroll comments on episode 4), which sucks since I made it this far without being spoiled. =( Honestly, I expected to get spoiled a long time ago, so I'm surprised it took this long! All that being said, on the other hand, major props to the Little Busters VN fanbase here on MAL. You guys seem to be very considerate of the anime-only fans, always hiding spoilers under the tags. I don't think I've ever seen a spoiler out of nowhere here, and I've been following the discussions since the first season. Kind of rare on MAL, considering other fanbases here(*cough Shingeki and Umineko cough*). Once again, thanks for being respectful and considerate of others! Despite the spoiler, I'm still going to enjoy the rest of Refrain. I'm not the biggest fan of works by Key, with the exception of Air, but Little Busters hits all the right notes. |
Nov 10, 2013 8:29 AM
#243
They stuffed too much content into just this episode. In the VN the part of the baseball match to where Rin and Riki got caught by those police took a good 1 hour and a half to read through with autoplay enabled. The called game part wasn't as good as I expected it to be, it won't ever compare to the CG in the VN. http://i.imgur.com/H1R75.jpg Nope, won't ever compare. |
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Nov 10, 2013 8:38 AM
#244
Mormegil said: I'd say what makes Refrain good is the execution, so if you got spoiled, it might still be okay to enjoy the show. In fact, it makes it more enjoyable to know the characters' hidden motives IMO. I never replayed the VN so being able to pick the little things they drop here and there watching the anime has been enjoyable to me. Watching these past episodes has been rather heartbreaking.On another note, I'm pretty sure someone spoiled the Secret of the World for me(Crunchyroll comments on episode 4), which sucks since I made it this far without being spoiled. =( I'm not sure if I fall under the VN users who spoil stuff for people since I might've done it unconsciously (like posting in the wrong thread a bit earlier which thankfully I realised right away) but I do wish the VN players would stop mentioning stuff past this episode and just discuss the episode. I've mentioned last episode too that well, obviously if no one even mentioned about the Cheap Tricks scene, no one might have expected an impactful scene happening in this episode and just feel "oh this is that scene I've heard about", much like what happened to Riptide :/ This anime discussion is just turning into hype the next scene to unbelievable levels thread every week. It's just getting worse and worse too. It's better to come in to a show with zero expectations and getting blown away than having expectations that may lead to disappointment. :/ |
"Now's the time for you to run towards the day you awaken from this dream." ~Boys be Smile |
Nov 10, 2013 8:42 AM
#245
Peten00b said: http://i.imgur.com/H1R75.jpg Nope, won't ever compare. I've already compared those: http://imageshack.us/a/img546/3511/yyuc.png Not even half as badass :/ |
Nov 10, 2013 8:59 AM
#246
Kitsu-nee said: Peten00b said: http://i.imgur.com/H1R75.jpg Nope, won't ever compare. I've already compared those: http://imageshack.us/a/img546/3511/yyuc.png Not even half as badass :/ I felt something was wrong in this scene, now I know, this is definitely it. The episode was very good, however things are moving too fast, and they are giving away too many tips, I guess is too much to ask for it to have the same impact as the VN did. |
Nov 10, 2013 9:06 AM
#247
Nov 10, 2013 9:12 AM
#248
Kitsu-nee said: Peten00b said: http://i.imgur.com/H1R75.jpg Nope, won't ever compare. I've already compared those: http://imageshack.us/a/img546/3511/yyuc.png Not even half as badass :/ But leaving aside how the VN was, I still thought this episode was awesome~ Not a very big spoiler but contains portions from VN which were "skipped" in the episode: Really such a shame we didn't get to see the http://cgv.blicky.net/lbe/0271.jpg scene and they didn't show the hardships Riki faced while taking care of Rin like the money problems and his narcolepsy attack while working. Also they pretty much forgot about the firefly scene that was in the PV before Refrain aired. |
Nov 10, 2013 9:17 AM
#249
The ending seemed a bit rushed but the statement was clear no matter where they go Kyousuke knows where they are. The question is does he really the ones that influences everything or is there more to it, the other characters seem to know things as well. Not to mention several characters disappearing a couple of episodes ago. |
Nov 10, 2013 9:27 AM
#250
MasterMeNL said: Riki #1 idiot, why go to that house? Go somewhere random instead of that predictable location. This actually was pretty good, now it only has to remain like this. Cheap tricks indeed... They rushed the end but they went there to stay with Rin and kyousuke grandfather who Kyousuke cant stand but it turn outs no one lives there anymore which Riki found out to late so they got arrested for trespassing. |
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