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-Riptide- said: I think I just got spoiled Damn it >_< Midou spoiling best part of the VN, GG. |
Vladz0r said: -Riptide- said: I think I just got spoiled Damn it >_< Midou spoiling best part of the VN, GG. Now I just lost my motivation to read the vn even though I just started playing a few hours ago... |
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| Thx God I was dizzy and didn't concentrate at the top post (only noticed "Kengo" mentioned there),and the good thing is I noticed the "I was spoiled" post first. Someone please spoiler tag that post! Honestly, the discussion in few last pages are already unhealthy enough with a ton of mentions about next episode content, although most are indirect. I know all of you VN readers were excited, but so do a lot of anime only watchers, including silent readers. Please behave and don't ruin other's experience. |
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-Riptide- said: Now I just lost my motivation to read the vn even though I just started playing a few hours ago... It was a joke. That's not a real spoiler at all. I know I might've lost credibility by continuing with that joke, but in all seriousness: No, Masato doesn't disguise as Kyousuke or anything. Kyousuke didn't disappear, and that scene was supposed to represent the harsh reality being implied by Kyousuke and the Little Busters show- growing up, becoming stronger, not being taken by the hand. Sorry if the fantasy aspect of the Little Busters led you to believe our joke. I'm not just saying that it ISN'T a joke so that you'll be surprised next episode. Continue the VN, because nothing was spoiled for you. Again, sorry if we messed with you. Making up fake spoilers to detract people from the actual content has sort of been a running joke we (some VN readers) have been doing for a long time. |
Vladz0r said: -Riptide- said: Now I just lost my motivation to read the vn even though I just started playing a few hours ago... It was a joke. That's not a real spoiler at all. I know I might've lost credibility by continuing with that joke, but in all seriousness: No, Masato doesn't disguise as Kyousuke or anything. Kyousuke didn't disappear, and that scene was supposed to represent the harsh reality being implied by Kyousuke and the Little Busters show- growing up, becoming stronger, not being taken by the hand. Sorry if the fantasy aspect of the Little Busters led you to believe our joke. I'm not just saying that it ISN'T a joke so that you'll be surprised next episode. Continue the VN, because nothing was spoiled for you. For a second there I thought it was a real spoiler. I even messaged the one who said it to complain why he said that. Now I have to apologize to him for complaining for nothing. |
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| Geez, so am I, being upset for nothing. My statement about "there's too many discussion about future contents even if there's no direct spoiler" still stands, though. |
| Sorry if you took it seriously didn't think it was that believable |
Midou89 said: Sorry if you took it seriously didn't think it was that believable Well its just that in this kind of anime a lot of unbelievable stuff happens so its not that hard to believe what you said earlier. Anyway, at least its not a real spoiler. |
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-Riptide- said: Midou89 said: Sorry if you took it seriously didn't think it was that believable Well its just that in this kind of anime a lot of unbelievable stuff happens so its not that hard to believe what you said earlier. Anyway, at least its not a real spoiler. Don't believe anything people say here, and experience it yourself if it's a real spoiler or not. Though I doubt any VN players would spoil at all in these episode discussions after the issues last season and with the moderator's constant warnings. >w> People are also constantly reporting intentional spoilers so you shouldn't worry. |
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zeroyuki92 said: \Honestly, the discussion in few last pages are already unhealthy enough with a ton of mentions about next episode content, although most are indirect. I know all of you VN readers were excited, but so do a lot of anime only watchers, including silent readers. Please behave and don't ruin other's experience. I totally agree on this. A lot of vn players are hyping whats about to happen next episode especially the one they call "Cheap tricks" and "Called game". Even I got a little curious and asked a bit as to what it means. Now I know a little bit of what to expect next episode. |
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Midou89 said: Sorry if you took it seriously didn't think it was that believable I read the VN and for a second just thought I was remembering wrong. |
DavidVauhn said: Midou89 said: Sorry if you took it seriously didn't think it was that believable I read the VN and for a second just thought I was remembering wrong. I guess one of the most memorable events in the VN for most people was pretty forgettable for you =/ |
| I wonder why Komari could stay on while Kud, Mio and Haruka had to go..... |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
I hate the guy who told me about it, or more accurately who sent me the TV tropes article about LB |
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| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| I think someone needs to make a "anime viewer only speculation/theories" thread. While we VN players may laugh and go "hohoho" when we make stupid plot jokes, it's pretty unhealthy for those who don't know what to expect and want to watch for the first time. Then again, it's not like we can keep ourselves out of the episode discussions, so... I have no idea how this is going to work out. |
SleepingEntity said: it's because people keep talking about what's still to come rather than what's happened up to this point in the animeI think someone needs to make a "anime viewer only speculation/theories" thread. While we VN players may laugh and go "hohoho" when we make stupid plot jokes, it's pretty unhealthy for those who don't know what to expect and want to watch for the first time. Then again, it's not like we can keep ourselves out of the episode discussions, so... I have no idea how this is going to work out. |
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HaXXspetten said: SleepingEntity said: it's because people keep talking about what's still to come rather than what's happened up to this point in the animeI think someone needs to make a "anime viewer only speculation/theories" thread. While we VN players may laugh and go "hohoho" when we make stupid plot jokes, it's pretty unhealthy for those who don't know what to expect and want to watch for the first time. Then again, it's not like we can keep ourselves out of the episode discussions, so... I have no idea how this is going to work out. Yes, I know. It's unfortunate, but it's really hard to avoid, especially given LB's plot structure. Like I said, we need a thread for anime viewers to discuss their ideas without interference. |
| ^ reddit separates their episode discussion into anime-only and visual novel discussions. don't know if that will really work out on MAL though. I feel like it would be fine as it is as long as visual novel people would STOP posting spoilers and use the other thread. |
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SleepingEntity said: I think someone needs to make a "anime viewer only speculation/theories" thread. While we VN players may laugh and go "hohoho" when we make stupid plot jokes, it's pretty unhealthy for those who don't know what to expect and want to watch for the first time. Then again, it's not like we can keep ourselves out of the episode discussions, so... I have no idea how this is going to work out. that sounds like a good idea :D i would personally like to read the theories they come up with, and how they affect each others theories by personal opinion and such, instead of VN readers here completely halting that ;w; |
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Funya-Usagi said: thisI feel like it would be fine as it is as long as visual novel people would STOP posting spoilers and use the other thread. I keep getting the feeling that some certain individuals (you know who you are!) are still way overhyped about the whole thing and can't keep their thoughts to themselves. I mean as much as I loved Refrain it's not like it's the best piece of media of my life either so I don't feel any specific need to spoil it for innocent people just to 'hype it up'. @above yeah that sounds pretty fun actually, make a theorycrafting thread about what the truth behind everything is that only anime-only viewers are allowed to post in. |
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| and if everyone keeps hyping it, a lot of people will be let down and not enjoy it as much, no matter how amazing it is =3= |
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smilewolfy said: and if everyone keeps hyping it, a lot of people will be let down and not enjoy it as much, no matter how amazing it is =3= ^yeah. I'm all up for the anime only speculations thread if people actually use it. Works very well on reddit. |
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45Ravager said: You might want to spoil that gut feeling you have, don't want other viewers to be influenced by that. Also, is it possible if you could mention what comment gave you that hint. Took me a while to dig, but it was posted above mine: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=681389&show=160#msg26005449 |
SleepingEntity said: we need a thread for anime viewers to discuss their ideas without interference. No. This is an episode discussion inside the "anime" discussion(Which means, episode discussion threads are exclusively for anime viewers in the first place) which they're talking about the anime particularly its certain episode to begin with. Whatever ideas, theories, predictions, etc they might come up are free to post them here and they won't be considered as spoilers as long as it's stated as his/her theory or something because it's only just a guess. It's really simple and best to not reply or interfere their speculation and let them be(Which that's what I'm doing so I visit here rarely) and if you reply, answer, etc their speculation or anything, it's most likely you're giving them hints either intentionally or unintentionally which that would be the result of that person will be spoiled. Funya-Usagi said: I feel like it would be fine as it is as long as visual novel people would STOP posting spoilers and use the other thread. This. That's why I created that thread in the first place to avoid tons of spoilers, spoiler tags, and unintentional spoilers in each and every episode discussion thread. |
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Vladz0r said: You do know what kind of awfully tragic ending plagued Tomoyo After, right? Ah, I got my wires crossed there, I meant Another World: Tomoyo. epic_joelle said: i really dont want a kud wafter ova... kud is the queen of moe, but having a kud wafter ova would just be unnatural. planetarian said: Heheheh I would not mind Kud Wafter at all.... Study with Riki - Kiss... Study with Riki - Sex Repeat Repeat repeat I haven’t played Kud Wafter yet, but I had presumed (perhaps naively) that Key was above Nukige. |
KamiNoItte said: anything is possible when it comes to fandiscsplanetarian said: Heheheh I would not mind Kud Wafter at all.... Study with Riki - Kiss... Study with Riki - Sex Repeat Repeat repeat I haven’t played Kud Wafter yet, but I had presumed (perhaps naively) that Key was above Nukige. |
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Tennouji_ said: SleepingEntity said: we need a thread for anime viewers to discuss their ideas without interference. No. This is an episode discussion inside the "anime" discussion(Which means, episode discussion threads are exclusively for anime viewers in the first place) which they're talking about the anime particularly its certain episode to begin with. Whatever ideas, theories, predictions, etc they might come up are free to post them here and they won't be considered as spoilers as long as it's stated as his/her theory or something because it's only just a guess. It's really simple and best to not reply or interfere their speculation and let them be(Which that's what I'm doing so I visit here rarely) and if you reply, answer, etc their speculation or anything, it's most likely you're giving them hints either intentionally or unintentionally which that would be the result of that person will be spoiled. Funya-Usagi said: I feel like it would be fine as it is as long as visual novel people would STOP posting spoilers and use the other thread. This. That's why I created that thread in the first place to avoid tons of spoilers, spoiler tags, and unintentional spoilers in each and every episode discussion thread. In an ideal world, yes. But as we can all see, that's clearly not happening right now. Intentionally or not, every time someone mentions the word "foreshadowing", there's bound to be some unavoidable level of minor spoilers. In any case, the fault does not necessarily lie with other VN readers. We certainly are discussing the episode without major spoilers, but because we know the plot, our experience is obviously different to that of anime viewers, and of course we notice much more than they do. |
| Ok, after Kurugaya wasn't real now it's Ryosuke huh? This is a ghost school for sure :D No offense against that anime but these are my impressions in a funny way ^^ |
Tendou-kun said: Ok, after Kurugaya wasn't real now it's Ryosuke huh? This is a ghost school for sure :D No offense against that anime but these are my impressions in a funny way ^^ http://puu.sh/596Bq.jpg |
| Oh so it was Kyousuke who sent out those "mission", I wonder what is the "secret of this world" ! |
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| Every week, I am scared to watch these episodes because I always end up crying after. Curse me fir having played the VN and knowing what will happen later. |
Zelot said: Curse me fir having played the VN and knowing what will happen later. Nah, it's better to read the source material for an adaptation 9/10 times. You'll also get a better understanding of the character motives, which is integral to Refrain and adds a lot of substance for rewatchers. You'll lose some of the shock behind the plot twists, but you may not have valued seeing them animated as much if you didn't already fully understand them from reading the VN. LB I always felt is a story that's much better the 2nd time around, or at least better watching knowing the Secret of the World. |
| Good cliffhanger at the ending and... DAT NEW OST :3 |
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Vladz0r said: Zelot said: Curse me fir having played the VN and knowing what will happen later. Nah, it's better to read the source material for an adaptation 9/10 times. You'll also get a better understanding of the character motives, which is integral to Refrain and adds a lot of substance for rewatchers. You'll lose some of the shock behind the plot twists, but you may not have valued seeing them animated as much if you didn't already fully understand them from reading the VN. I on the other hand am glad i didn't read the VN first. Most of the time the VN readers are disappointed, ("they didn't adapt this..", "this part is bad compared to the VN.." etc etc). While im just cruising through enjoying it since i don't have all these expectations lol. |
Tr1ckR said: True... but it also means you don't get to enjoy the VN as much when/if you play that later on instead :PVladz0r said: Zelot said: Curse me fir having played the VN and knowing what will happen later. Nah, it's better to read the source material for an adaptation 9/10 times. You'll also get a better understanding of the character motives, which is integral to Refrain and adds a lot of substance for rewatchers. You'll lose some of the shock behind the plot twists, but you may not have valued seeing them animated as much if you didn't already fully understand them from reading the VN. I on the other hand am glad i didn't read the VN first. Most of the time the VN readers are disappointed, ("they didn't adapt this..", "this part is bad compared to the VN.." etc etc). While im just cruising through enjoying it since i don't have all these expectations lol. everything's more fun when it's still new and you don't know what's gonna happen so no matter which order you do it in, when you see it on the 'second' medium it'll have less of an impact than it would if you'd done that one first ...although ironically Little Busters might be the one exception to something that might actually be better the second time around, but that's due to different (and spoilerish) reasons :3 |
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HaXXspetten said: True... but it also means you don't get to enjoy the VN as much when/if you play that later on instead :P everything's more fun when it's still new and you don't know what's gonna happen so no matter which order you do it in, when you see it on the 'second' medium it'll have less of an impact than it would if you'd done that one first ...although ironically Little Busters might be the one exception to something that might actually be better the second time around, but that's due to different (and spoilerish) reasons :3 Yeah that's true, it does work both ways in what ever you choose to go with first. Im usually more of an anime watcher than a manga/LN/VN reader, so that's always my first choice. In the end if im disappointed with the LB! anime ill go to the VN, but if not and im all good with it ill move on. Sorry i shouldn't be talking about all this in a episode discussion thread, ill stop :P |
| About the VN expectations part- yeah, that's always an issue. They can't keep the pacing as painfully slow as the VN, and people hate having parts cut out. The great parts of the adaptation are when they keep certain events nearly 1:1 with the VN or improve on them. Komari and Rin's relationship weren't developed in the VN, and that's going to improve Refrain greatly, and I'm glad Key/Michiru Shmada decided to do this. Kengo joining the team in the VN was a gag where it was hilarious how he hit a homerun on his first try with one hand. The anime changed it into something more realistic and awesome. The Kyousuke scene with Lennon was well adapted, and they changed the location of it. Same with Riki and Rin's confession and a lot of the Riki-Rin conversations. Kurugaya's door scene had no CGs(pictures), the bullies had no visible sprites, and the interactions among the bros in episode 2, the fireworks, the Kurugaya-Riki interactions, and the ending were much better than in the VN. So far, aside from pacing, I think they've improved most of the scenes in season 2 by changing the locations and improvising some good screenplay. LB was pretty limited in its locations from season 1, but we have some nice backgrounds and scenery this season that I'm excited to see more of. The new OST is also helping out the series in terms of keeping it refreshing to watch with VN and anime-only viewers. |
| riki and rin.. :/ so they are fight now? :/ http://puu.sh/56sFD.jpg DAT moment! :' and story just getting serious .. really serious... I know kyousuke is behind all of this~ and where is kurugaya? I really miss her :o |
Vladz0r said: About the VN expectations part- yeah, that's always an issue. They can't keep the pacing as painfully slow as the VN, and people hate having parts cut out. The great parts of the adaptation are when they keep certain events nearly 1:1 with the VN or improve on them. Komari and Rin's relationship weren't developed in the VN, and that's going to improve Refrain greatly, and I'm glad Key/Michiru Shmada decided to do this. Kengo joining the team in the VN was a gag where it was hilarious how he hit a homerun on his first try with one hand. The anime changed it into something more realistic and awesome. The Kyousuke scene with Lennon was well adapted, and they changed the location of it. Same with Riki and Rin's confession and a lot of the Riki-Rin conversations. Kurugaya's door scene had no CGs(pictures), the bullies had no visible sprites, and the interactions among the bros in episode 2, the fireworks, the Kurugaya-Riki interactions, and the ending were much better than in the VN. So far, aside from pacing, I think they've improved most of the scenes in season 2 by changing the locations and improvising some good screenplay. LB was pretty limited in its locations from season 1, but we have some nice backgrounds and scenery this season that I'm excited to see more of. The new OST is also helping out the series in terms of keeping it refreshing to watch with VN and anime-only viewers. This man knows what he is talking about |
makarov52 said: riki and rin.. :/ so they are fight now? :/ http://puu.sh/56sFD.jpg DAT moment! :' and story just getting serious .. really serious... I know kyousuke is behind all of this~ and where is kurugaya? I really miss her :o The Rin x Komari moments tear me to pieces every episode. JC Staff is screwing with VN players' emotions with those scenes. Kyousuke is the king of games. Seriously, look him up, his VA payed Seto Kaiba. No clue where Kurugaya is ;) |
| "'You even used the clever pretext of assembling members for a baseball team to ensure Rin would make new female friends" > Helping Rin make new friends > Increasing the ratio of girls to boys > Build Riki a harem Kyousuke truly is an evil genius. |
egnaro315 said: "'You even used the clever pretext of assembling members for a baseball team to ensure Rin would make new female friends" > Helping Rin make new friends > Increasing the ratio of girls to boys > Build Riki a harem Kyousuke truly is an evil genius. Its like hitting three birds with one stone. |
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Vladz0r said: makarov52 said: riki and rin.. :/ so they are fight now? :/ http://puu.sh/56sFD.jpg DAT moment! :' and story just getting serious .. really serious... I know kyousuke is behind all of this~ and where is kurugaya? I really miss her :o The Rin x Komari moments tear me to pieces every episode. JC Staff is screwing with VN players' emotions with those scenes. Kyousuke is the king of games. Seriously, look him up, his VA payed Seto Kaiba. No clue where Kurugaya is ;) Rin x Komari, man these scenes I tell you... |
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egnaro315 said: "'You even used the clever pretext of assembling members for a baseball team to ensure Rin would make new female friends" > Helping Rin make new friends > Increasing the ratio of girls to boys > Build Riki a harem Kyousuke truly is an evil genius. In actuality, he killed like 6 or 7 birds with one stone with other things that haven't been realized by anime watchers. |
Vladz0r said: egnaro315 said: "'You even used the clever pretext of assembling members for a baseball team to ensure Rin would make new female friends" > Helping Rin make new friends > Increasing the ratio of girls to boys > Build Riki a harem Kyousuke truly is an evil genius. In actuality, he killed like 6 or 7 birds with one stone with other things that haven't been realized by anime watchers. Yeah well we anime-only viewers will learn of them later on |
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Vladz0r said: egnaro315 said: "'You even used the clever pretext of assembling members for a baseball team to ensure Rin would make new female friends" > Helping Rin make new friends > Increasing the ratio of girls to boys > Build Riki a harem Kyousuke truly is an evil genius. In actuality, he killed like 6 or 7 birds with one stone with other things that haven't been realized by anime watchers. i dont care i want kurugaya back -.-" if she isnt coming back this show is close to be dropped >.< Kurugayaaaaa ;_; who cares about riki >.> waste of screen >.> |
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RaiStorM said: i dont care i want kurugaya back -.-" if she isnt coming back this show is close to be dropped >.< Kurugayaaaaa ;_; who cares about riki >.> waste of screen >.> There's plenty of good content coming soon that you might be interested in, anyway. I love Kurugaya, and I can see why people would find eps 4-5 to be pretty slow, but just keep watching. |
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