Aardwolf94 said: ssjokg said: Yeah eating burgers because it reminds you of slaughter is the pinnacle of writing. What? Don't worry I didn't expect you to get it. And trashing FSN with memes... How original. |
Madara_Uchiha_30 said: I seriously find sakura creepy, angsty, whiny and unbereable with Shinji matou being about equally worse? Is this just me or anyone feel the same? Mod Edit: Modified title for clarity and/or easier searching. It's just you...she's the best!!! AND BEST GIRL!!! |
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Abhinandan2002 said: No I am also feel same Sakura matou is creepy and she is the type girl who destroys protagonists life and his thinking Like Emiya shiro She's a victim of bad and tragic circumstances...I WILL NOT BLAME A DOG FOR BITING SOMEONE AFTER HE GOT KICKED. |
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| Analysis skills non-existent. Amazing. |
Abhinandan2002 said: By the here sakura is not dog she the man who kick the dog Means you understand after watching the movie You say that she had tragic past so even she do anything that could accepted by pitying or sympathies her. After havens feel part 2 Shirou betrayal to his father and in two serise Fate stay night and Fate stay night unlimited blade works main motivation was changed in 1 minutes which is don't change pervious route in at any dangerous circumstances. It's the reason I hate shiro and sakura after this movie I don't want to be rude...but I don't understand what you want to say because of your english skills... But I will make a point by saying that it's ok to not like them as persons...but as characters...Sakura and Shirou are explored and developed the most in this route...wich is considered the best because of this...completing their characterisation...among other things that HF does best. |
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Abhinandan2002 said: She's a victim of bad and tragic circumstances...I WILL NOT BLAME A DOG FOR BITING SOMEONE AFTER HE GOT KICKED. By the here sakura is not dog she the man who kick the dog Means you understand after watching the movie You say that she had tragic past so even she do anything that could accepted by pitying or sympathies her. After havens feel part 2 Shirou betrayal to his father and in two serise Fate stay night and Fate stay night unlimited blade works main motivation was changed in 1 minutes which is don't change pervious route in at any dangerous circumstances. It's the reason I hate shiro and sakura after this movie I guess you don't get her character.. I will explain. Shirou was never faced with a smiliar decision in ubw or fate.. So there was no reason he would change his way. Maybe characters with psychological problems are just not you're cup of tea. It doesn't make any sense if sakura would act normal (like nothing ever happen before) after her past. It's the same for shirou.. Some people don't get his character and say he's just dumb. Shirou emiya is basically a "good" kirei. After his traumatic experience of the big fire, he's become an mentally ill person. He suffers from a survivors guilt, ptsd and an martyr complex.. His decisions are often irrational, but only because he don't have any self worth. He is basically psychopathic, what become more obvious after reading/watching heavens feel. Hope that helps to get the whole picture! If you still don't like her.. That's you're opinion after all. |
TypeMercury94Nov 5, 2020 6:14 AM
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ssjokg said: Analysis skills non-existent. Amazing. I agree! It's really annoying when people don't get the story and just hating on false information. |
TypeMercury94Nov 5, 2020 5:39 AM
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Aardwolf94 said: Dull_Lull said: Oh baby... if it ain't that complex then you wouldn't be losing hairs over the concepts and stuff that happened in FSN in the first place and yet here we are regurgitating the same arguments that's been done for years already. Self-drag honey... just admit you can't comprehend the writing of a show, I won't hold it on you. Clowning yourself like this ain't cute. Lol imagine thinking a dumb porn game has complex writing that is difficult to comprehend. Maybe watch some actually complex shows before acting smug? Like this is just sad. No one is confused here. Its just clear that F/SN is badly written cliche garbage and inferior to F/Z. You can't handle someone having that opinion (although thankfully many share it) and get butthurt. End of story here. Now this is getting boring so we are done here, I don't have have much time to waste with insecure people (never seen a more salty and insecure fanbase tbh)! You can keep replying when I trash F/SN again because it will definitely happen. Lmao! The fate/stay night visual novel got only a few(4-8%) h-scenes during the complete story. Only because the game got erotic content, doesn't mean it's bad quality content as a whole. I guess you're talking about the "nukige"(most focus on erotic stuff instead of a story) genre which is very narrow-minded. Fate/zero is a great addition to f/SN as a prequel.. But i personally prefer stay night as a complete package. And talking about complex storys: you even gave Bakemonogatari a 4/10 and madoka 2/10.. I don't need to say anything right? A different opinion is fine but you claim that you're own is based on facts. |
TypeMercury94Nov 5, 2020 5:25 AM
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Rose_Player said: I'm waiting for the 3rd Heaven's feel movie, but yeah... It's not my favorite turn of events, and it's all because of her. . And she's creepy dangerous |
TypeMercury94Nov 5, 2020 6:07 AM
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| Agreed. Sakuras a very bad character |
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| This Discussion went for too long, In my Opinion Sakura is a really well written character And because she is so well written she is so Controversial There are some who sympathise and pity her character because of her Past and some who just hate her because she is damn annoying I am one of the haters(Because her voice is annoying, she says too much senpai, gets way too jealous, and many other reasons) but I still think she is a well written character and a human-like character Hope I will be safe from Sakura Fans |
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| I personally don't like her...she's my least favorite female character in the franchise lol What they did with her dark side was fun to watch though. I didn't mind that part. But she has a boring personality. |
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| Its fine not liking the character but saying its dark for the sake of dark is just stupid. It shows you don't follow the story or remember anything in FZ. When you dont ship the pairing of some characters its always going to look wrong. So just admit you ship something else, thats how braindead anime fans are. Always biased when they dont ship the pairing and end up going away from facts. There's reasons why she is like that. Everything taken away from her. I dont think I dont need to explain to an old thread tbh. Also, SakuraxShirou isn't even my favourite ship. Not even your Rin either. |
Jjjjjerry said: Samt_ said: who cares about plot and characters, its the fights that matter lol thats not a question anymore, its just a meme Mod Edit: Removed quote of a deleted post. Tsukihime remake go brrrrr Damn bruh, you reminded me of this awful thread a year and a half later. I see a certain FZ secondary went wild. |
Jjjjjerry said: Samt_ said: Damn bruh, you reminded me of this awful thread a year and a half later. I see a certain FZ secondary went wild. Tsukihime is not a meme anymore, rejoice Ye, I've heard. Hopefully it won't be a disappointment either. |
| No. After HFs , i think she’s a well written character , She became my favorite out of the 3 female leads. But that wasn’t so hard as i didn’t had a favorite before , Neither were very appealing to me. HFs is just the best , Both Sakura and Shirou truly caught my eye this time and despite all the issues with their relationship , I cannot deny It’s the pairing i prefer atm |
| I didn't find her annoying at all. She's a very tragic character. Should've tortured that fucker Shinji. |
WhaleCostume said: Sakura has always been the least favourite of the 3 heroines. You could have figured that out by looking at the character favourite stats: Saber: 23,500 Rin: 11,700 Sakura: 1,500 MeisterDM said: Why do people hate sakura? She’s so kind and sweet. She’s “angsty” because she’s been suffering at the hands of Zouken and Shinji for ten years. Being raped by those worms will fuck up her of course. I completely agree with what @shayon said. “Equally as bad as Shinji”. In what alternate universe do you live in, OP? Shinji is a rapist scumbag and is literal human garbage. It all comes down to empathy. People dislike what they don't understand and people do not understand Sakura. End of story. and now look who is the most favorited Type-Moon character on Anilist : https://anilist.co/search/characters/favorites  |
| To many stupid fate haters these days. If you don't like deep and complex characters like sakura. Go watch your shallow trash MHA, Naruto, One Piece. Seriously, why do stupid shonen fanboys even try. Your taste sucks and it will always suck. Sakura is superior to your favorite character. |
| I prefer Rin and Saber but I still love Sakura and she's amazingly written and perfect for the HF route |
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Aardwolf94 said: Dull_Lull said: Not at you trying to oversimplify all the context than went to that decision and comparing both routes that have drastically different approaches regarding the plot. Like girl you seem like the pretentious intellectual so I kinda expected more solid stances you know... but all we got here are 4chan levels of criticisms. I doubt you even know what Kirei's goal is lol. Chill, I'm just making fun of the series lol. No need to get mad here. I never claimed to be a "pretentious intellectual" Also I never liked Shirou and HF only makes it more clear how obnoxious he is. Remember in UBW (or Fate from what I have seen of the Deen anime) Shirou doesn't get "tested" once, he keeps preaching about bullshit ideals and sticks to them but HF shows clearly that if he was put in the same position (like imagine if it was Rin in a similiar situation in UBW) he would still pick her over countless of innocents dying. And then of course he is even rewarded for it and gets a happy harem ending (I looked up the VN ending on youtube), there are literally zero consequences. This confirms that F/Z is really the only good part of the Fate franchise (waiting for you to bash it now and insult me more, already had this type of discussion a few times here) So another secondary who likes edgy shonen garbage. It seems idiots like you only desire instant gratification who enjoys brain dead fights in Zero and low intellectual dialogue like in Zero. UBW and HF are to psychologically imparting for a monkey such as yourself. Stick to your MHA, One Piece, Naruto and Demon Slayer trash stupid shonen fanboy. |
| Well for me, I just like Sakura even though she suffered throughout her whole life she still the cutest and kindest girl in the series. Like some people above said her actions are just the result of her trauma and her guilt, Shinji though is just scum. |
| I hate Sakura, all little sisters should be tortured and killed. |
 「あなたのためなら世界中を敵にしてもかまわない」 "If it was for your sake I wouldn't mind even if I had to turn the whole world into my enemy" |
| She is,not only she make me almost rage quitted in the vn playthorugh in yt,making me forget the timestamp by making me almost punching my own laptop,making me can't finish fate hf, i even dont care who it is i will 7 page muda them if they dare to have sakura in their favs, big cring |
ishowhatredMay 10, 2021 8:49 PM
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| sadly, I feel like Sakura is the most relatable women to our modern society right now. there's a lot of women with that kind of backstory nowdays. compared to Rin or Saber, they're still too good to be true, and as far as I live, I've never met a Tsundere women like Rin. |
Reply to _PEAK
@Adatius everyone in the fate series have tragic past, STOP pitying just 1 character.
Talk about whining lol
Absolutely hate fans who keep pitying 1 character, even servants have more tragic past.
Keep coping, any sane person who has watched even 1 route finds Sakura unbearable, there is a reason why so many people dislike her.
She is a pure simp, just like her brother has no goals.
Talk about whining lol
Absolutely hate fans who keep pitying 1 character, even servants have more tragic past.
Keep coping, any sane person who has watched even 1 route finds Sakura unbearable, there is a reason why so many people dislike her.
She is a pure simp, just like her brother has no goals.
| @Ihate_sadendings Huh, what do we have here? A retarded secondary who replies to 4 year old posts. You must be about as intelligent as the monkey in your profile pic. >who has watched even 1 route >watched Lmao, secondaries. |
| If I had to put it into words, I hate Sakura as a character on multiple levels. Not the sort of hate where your angry at the character, but the sort of disdain hate where after seeing everything else the series has had to offer so far, the only response you can really come to is "why do you exist and why do you think you're special enough to deserve your own arc?" Note that I have never read the VN and I have not watched the third movie yet (but I did spoil myself years ago reading about the grail war on accident). On a more meta level, she feels like the age-old "subversion for the sake of subversion" trope in that the writers want to write sufferporn and want you to like her despite her having all the blacklisted tags. The writers are demanding you like her rather than letting you come to like her on your own terms. If the story followed the daily life of Shirou and Sakura for a while, or actively kept Sakura in-frame and part of the build-up it might not be so bad, but instead it's like the writers are explaining to you why you have to like her. From what I've been told, even the way the VN introduces her arc is hamfisted in that it forces you on this path after UBW. Watching Heaven's Feel is like watching an alt-universe where the main heroine gets forgotten even by the writers until they need to use her for relevance and to make you feel a certain way. I understand the resistant reaction from others towards disliking her though because "she's the one who's suffering from all of this, it's not her fault" but I feel like this reduces Sakura to a one-dimensional character if you do this to her, and who wants a one-dimensional girl as the main heroine? In my lived experience, people with Sakura's traits (not traumas, traits) are usually emotional vampires that will pull you down to their level, so I feel physical aversion to her presence on-screen as a natural defensive mechanism even if 2D =! 3D. No, you can't fix her. She's broken and she's gonna stay broken until she stands on her own two feet. Going back to her character though, even if you separate her from her traumas, she is still a meek girl that lets others walk all over her. There's a difference between feminine subtlety/passivity and being a punching bag. It's not about her past, it's about how she chooses to simply "exist" like a puppet being dragged along by others instead of having the courage to reject or accept her circumstances and stand on her own two feet with resolve to say "yes this is my baggage and this is who I am, I deserve my story too." Up until this point in the story if I were to split Sakura into a love interest and BBEG character as separate characters in the story, the plot would change very little because her only claim to being both in her actions/mannerisms is that the authors are telling you she's both and to get over it. She's a hanger-on. In another series this may be ok, but it's not as if she's the only character who's suffered in the grimdark world of Feito. You can't walk back after seeing Zero and go "yeah, her circumstances are exceptionally bad compared to everyone else." I think Kirtsugu is a crap sufferporn character too, but I don't have active disdain for him the way I have for Sakura since at least he tries to forge his own fate. Maybe she has a character redemption arc coming in the third movie but most writers don't have the kind of skill to walk back terrible characters into good characters like that and I've yet to see that level of writing in the other Fate series I've seen so far so I have low expectations next week. Anyways yeah, I guess the tl;dr is that after four hours of this story, I still find Sakura almost irrelevant to her own arc compared to Seibah and Rin in their respective arcs. In Stay Night/UBW she was just sort of "there" and I didn't dislike her character even being aware of her traumas even if I cracked jokes with the boys, but in HF she's just insufferable with the constant sufferporn schtick and seeming to never grow as a character. Whenever she does grow it's more like her entire personality cracks and I have to question if she's having another author-induced mental break or if she actually did finally grow as a character and most of the time I'm disappointed in her just relapsing back into her meek emotional vampire form. I don't have "I can save her" syndrome, sorry. If Sakura wasn't called out as an MC she'd be no different than any of the other mobs with tragic backstories that die a dog's death in this series so she just feels hamfisted at every stage. |
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