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Weapon_Master said: Btw, can you explain the end bit with Kaiju Girl and Anti. The part about repaying debts and such and his new eye. Is there context for that? The Kaiju girl is officially known as Anoshiras the second, which makes her a direct descendent of the Kaiju of the same name from the original Gridman show (The original Anoshiras is the kaiju you see standing behind the girl). Anoshiras was used by Khan digifer (the antagonist of the first gridman who is of the same species as Alexis) to fight Gridman, but it later turned out that Anoshiras was being manipulated and was benevolent by nature. Rather than kill it, Gridman managed to free Anoshiras from Khan's influence and it became a good kaiju, free to go wherever she wished. That is the debt that the kaiju girl is repaying. Gridman spared her and allowed her to have her own family,a s opposed to killing her like every other kaiju. Which is why she seems fond of anti, who went through a slightly similar experience. Anti's eye color change I think was just symbolic and meant to represent him becoming more human. |
| so akane looks like rikka in reality and rikka was created as the real version of akane in virtual world. Thus, akane asserted that rikka would have never betrayed her cuz akane knew what kind of person she was in reality. However, theres tons of plotholes throwing without explanations. I would like to know the past of akane and the intention of building a virtual world. |
RobertBobert said: @YK97 Well, I have to go, so thanks for talking. Your words really made a lot of sense to me. As if the authors themselves explained to me the whole plot, lol. No worries. Glad to be able to help you understand the plot better. :) |
| Alright, now that the hype from the episode has died down for me, I can start making fun of some things. For example.. IMAGINE BEING SUCH A SCRUB THAT YOU GET DEFEATED BY GRIDMAN'S ONLY NON DAMAGING ATTACK. GET REKT ALEXIS. |
ButtSlapper said: so akane looks like rikka in reality and rikka was created as the real version of akane in virtual world. Thus, akane asserted that rikka would have never betrayed her cuz akane knew what kind of person she was in reality. However, theres tons of plotholes throwing without explanations. I would like to know the past of akane and the intention of building a virtual world. 2 Akane here. We got: Akane, the perversion of the ideal Akane which is super popular and loved by everyone. Rikka (real life Akane), who got few close friends but still kind of popular. How did she create this virtual world: Alexis Kerib enables her to create Kaijius that shaped said world. The thing she couldn't shape was put into a junk shop. Rikka(real Akane), her mother and the other junk was the result of this. Rikka (real Akane) was place into the junk shop where she will be forgotten once the real life Akane dies which is exactly what Alexis wants. You can also notice throughout the show how Rikka comments on how close she and Akane were but became separated which parallel how different this "perfect" Akane is compared to the real one. This virtual world is the computer world. So any damage done to it = damage in the real world. That's why you see that world being turn into the computer world. This is in correlation to the original Gridman show. You can also see Rikka's hikikomori attribute when her friends says she sometimes disappear and do her own things. This might be caused with her relationship with her family. Her grandpa died sometime ago (he bought her expensive running shoes. She won a race championship with them.) prior to SSSS Gridman. You can found that info with the voice drama 3.3 Her mom might be a single parent as well. So, you can kinda see why Akane would want to create such world where she can control everything and forget her real self (Rikka) in an effort to maintain the facade. She created Utsumi for her love of tokusatsu. Yuta was created as the ideal boyfriend. But, since Yuta was created to love Akane. The Akane in the virtual world is different from the real Akane. So, he fell in love with the real Akane who's Rikka. Therefore, he's a special case in Akane's world. He does conform to the law of loving Akane and his programming. Akane in the virtual world is the fake Akane. Rikka is the real Akane. This unique condition was what Gridman & co needed to get into this world. And why Yuta was chosen by Gridman. His purpose now is to save Akane from boredom. This is why "Yuta, you need to remember your purpose. Something only you can do" becomes so important as the series progress. |
YK97Dec 23, 2018 2:21 PM
GemTastical said: Alright, now that the hype from the episode has died down for me, I can start making fun of some things. For example.. IMAGINE BEING SUCH A SCRUB THAT YOU GET DEFEATED BY GRIDMAN'S ONLY NON DAMAGING ATTACK. GET REKT ALEXIS. The guy got healed lol. Akane healed and back to the real world. Alexis healed = got back into his cage. Looks like he's the shut in now HAHAHAHA |
| Lol why did they have to wait until the last episode to pull out all the stops? Feels like the story was rushed. Also, the character animation was totally mediocre and the contrast definitely weakened the impact. If only they spent a few episodes less running the monster of the week formula and worked a little harder then maybe this finale could have been something to remember. Then again, even if they fixed all the problems I have with the show it's not like it would surpass TTGL or NGE. There are too many issues this show has on a at the fundamental level in comparison. Well, if nothing else I got a short break from the usual seasonal rabble. |
GemTastical said: Also, this is now 100% confirmed a sequel to the original Gridman now that they revealed Kaiju girl's identity. Absolute madlads. Can you explain this a bit more? I'm interested. |
EdHaku said: GemTastical said: Also, this is now 100% confirmed a sequel to the original Gridman now that they revealed Kaiju girl's identity. Absolute madlads. Can you explain this a bit more? I'm interested. @GemTastical explains it pretty well. I'll quote him GemTastical said: Weapon_Master said: Btw, can you explain the end bit with Kaiju Girl and Anti. The part about repaying debts and such and his new eye. Is there context for that? The Kaiju girl is officially known as Anoshiras the second, which makes her a direct descendent of the Kaiju of the same name from the original Gridman show (The original Anoshiras is the kaiju you see standing behind the girl). Anoshiras was used by Khan digifer (the antagonist of the first gridman who is of the same species as Alexis) to fight Gridman, but it later turned out that Anoshiras was being manipulated and was benevolent by nature. Rather than kill it, Gridman managed to free Anoshiras from Khan's influence and it became a good kaiju, free to go wherever she wished. That is the debt that the kaiju girl is repaying. Gridman spared her and allowed her to have her own family,a s opposed to killing her like every other kaiju. Which is why she seems fond of anti, who went through a slightly similar experience. Anti's eye color change I think was just symbolic and meant to represent him becoming more human. |
_shahriar_shiham said: _MushiRock11_ said: What are you talking about?SSSS. Gridman official channel is bustling and tweets everywhere! Can’t wait to watch the episode! It's Completed I was referring to people tweeting and talking about the show(tagging) and such, it’s gone down now but it was very eventful earlier today when the episode was about to air and after it just aired. |
#Anime4Life be my Life Motto! #PrayForKyoAni  |
| 6/10 I don't get why does Rikka doesn't want her last wish to come true? |
| Great action scenes, a good story and all those random transformers references made this one of my favorite anime. 9/10 BABY DAN DAN |
| This is not your planet to rule. The Fallen shall rise again. |
Rikka doesn't want to see Akane getting shut into her own world again. Though, it's more of a self note. |
Thanks, I completely missed his post. |
| Wait, so Trigger basically pulled an "It was all a dream" ending and zero people are angry? Those mad geniuses. My respect for them and their ability to dazzle us with thighs is even higher now. |
| Insert "witty" yet """"""thought-provoking"""""" comment about, um, I dunno, all anime being trash, here. Or something similar. Maybe? Possibly? Yeah, whatever, let's go with that. Nobody's gonna read this anyway. |
thatonemegafan said: Wait, so Trigger basically pulled an "It was all a dream" ending and zero people are angry? Those mad geniuses. My respect for them and their ability to dazzle us with thighs is even higher now. Technically it's not "it was ALL a dream", the world we spent 12 episodes in was part of the cyberspace form the original series, it's made pretty clear with the appearance of the monster girl. Just for some reason the real Akane was linked to the cyberspace in her sleep. If you dig deeper, this is when the plot holes starts to surface: 1.How was Akane able to connect to the cyberspace? In the original series, the cyberspace is just as the name suggests, a realm exist in the electronic devices and internet. 2.How long has Akane been sleeping? In the original series, the time passes at the same speed in the cyberspace as in the real world, however given that the real Akane waked up in her own room instead of a hospital bed, she was unlikely in a coma. |
| I only started to watch this anime because of the thicc thighs meme, but in overall I enjoyed thjis anime. I wish it was a bit longer though. |
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| This was 7/10 show for me, but after looking into it little bit more ... 8/10 is it. What a nice surprise of the year. @YK97 @GemTastical Thanks for the info. |
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| Gotta say the whole plot was too cheesy for me at least but it was enjoyable because of characters such as the Hyper Agent squad they were definitely my fav. Baka Yuta didn't even woke up tch. 6/10 |
| still about a 6.5/10 to me. TRIGGER is hit and miss for me. Loved Little Witch Academia tv show but hated Kiznaiver and Darling in the whatever. Liked Uchuu Patrol Luluco and Ninja Slayer but Gridman i couldnt get into for some reason. Kill la Kill is probably my fav still. |
| It seems like this is getting a 6 from people who don't understand the ending an 8+ from people who do. I guess that's to be expected. |
| A solid hommage to the tokusatsu genre. I didn't like the ending all that much, but the series did what it set out to do quite well, which was to bring attention to those classic shows again. It does suffer from things like the fixer beam at the end... But I mean, this kind of stuff did happen in tokusatsu, so its partly forgivable. 7/10 |
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thatonemegafan said: Wait, so Trigger basically pulled an "It was all a dream" ending and zero people are angry? Those mad geniuses. My respect for them and their ability to dazzle us with thighs is even higher now. Literally the only way you could be upset at finding this out now is if you didn't watch the show. They reveal this in episode 5, they repeatedly tell you that Akane is controlling the virtual world using the kaiju, there's a giant floating circuit board over the city for the final arc. Gridman itself is about Gridman entering a virtual world to fight an evil alien. And was it really a dream? We've seen Utsumi, Rikka and Yuta/Gridman make their own decisions throughout. The point is that they're just as human as we are, which is why they fought back. The simulation is so advanced that the "NPCs" are just people. |
| So in the end they truly were nothing more than Akane's creations, but even so they still came to have an agency of their own. I still don't know how that world came to be in the first place, but even though Akane was forgiven she still atoned for what she did by leaving that world behind, to face her true world, and somehow they were still able to go on living there, not bad. I was so sad for Anti, I thought that he was going to die, but the Kaiju girl saved him, and Akane was at least shaken to see him wounded like that in the end. That was also Gridman's original appearance, and theme song, right? That's one hell of a homage to your own roots, I'm sure that original Gridman fans were happy with it. All in all, it didn't go out with a bang as big as I expected, but to witness the power of a finite life was certainly nice, and that ending showing the 'real' Akane was unexpected to me. It was a very enjoyable ride, sad to see it go. |
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Fayrin said: So in the end they truly were nothing more than Akane's creations, but even so they still came to have an agency of their own. I still don't know how that world came to be in the first place, but even though Akane was forgiven she still atoned for what she did by leaving that world behind, to face her true world, and somehow they were still able to go on living there, not bad. Alexis said on this episode when fighting Gridman that he gave Akane the ability to create Kaijus that are able to create her virtual city/world and later Gridman uses fixer beam to repair or remodel that virtual city/world thats why it works as a standalone world now too even without Akane's godly ability   |
degDec 23, 2018 4:48 AM
Well that's was a quite fast paced episode. But still a rather fine season finale. Anti was the true protagonist won the sidelines and he found his match at the end in both Gridman and her. Good nostalgic show with those childhood memories down the lane. |
When someone asks me why I like anime, I'd say Just Because. |
| I wanted a more hype final form for Gridman, but the fight was still pretty good, the story wrapped up nicely and i'm hoping for a season 2 or something, that last conversation between kaiju girl and Anti is too much of a cliffhanger not to. Loved every second of this anime. |
| Didn't thought it was possible, but Trigger actually managed to tie up the ending quite nicely. SSSS=Special Signature to Save a Soul seems really cliche, but I ironically love it. |
FrostWingsDec 23, 2018 6:25 AM
fun things are fun  |
| Never watched the original TV series so I wouldn't know a thing about the story and world in that one. The anime itself was wrapped up in a lazy way, basically boiling down to 'it was all a dream'. It was still enjoyable and all (mainly cause of the girls really) but overall Gridman joins the ranks of other Trigger Anime like Kiznaiver and Franxx which are painfully average due to lazy writing. |
| Who was the kaiju who saved Anti, and why did Anti have heterochromia at the end? Edit: nvm someone explained it above. |
El-MelloiDec 23, 2018 9:03 AM
In2TheBlu said: For those that found the story a bit confusing, here’s a summary: Akane is a shut-in geek (Hikikomori) that made a virtual world in order to escape reality. She used real references to make a sim-like simulation whereby people like her. Rikka is that popular girl who’s supposed to be Akane’s best girl friend and possibly a love interest, Utsumi is designed to be her nerdy friend who also likes Kaiju just like her irl, Yuta is her ideal boyfriend. Yet the latter gained free will and chose to loce Rikka instead of Akane. That might be the reason why Gridman chose him. Alexis and Gridman are both aliens from the real world. Kerib uses humans to chase away the boredom and nihilism that comes with being an immortal being. He chose Akane because she could entertain him pretty well and was a depressed, isolated teenager: an easy target. Once they no longer fulfil that purpose, he leaves them in a broken state and looks for his next toy. Gridman and the weapons are basically Space Patrol Aliens that infiltrted Akane’s simulation in order to rescue her and stop Kerib. When Rikka says she wants to be with Akane but doesn’t want her wish to happen; it’s because she doesn’t want Akane to be sad again to the point of using the simulation as a form of escapism, even though she loves Akane dearly. Anosillus, a kaiju from another world who decided to live in Akane’s world, took Anti under her wing. Anti is now both human and kaiju; as you can see from the color of his eyes. The Gridman team returns to the real world (and possibly go on a new mission) and so does Akane. She kept the pass that Rikka gave her to remind her to face the challenges of daily life intead of hiding from them. The artificial world and its people are now free from the influence of their creator and become independent. Thanks for explaining |
DonTrumpolino said: antonnn said: Akane was a schizoid. Schizoid personality disorder (/ˈskɪtsɔɪd, ˈskɪdzɔɪd/, often abbreviated as SPD or SzPD) is a personality disorder characterized by a lack of interest in social relationships, a tendency towards a solitary or sheltered lifestyle, secretiveness, emotional coldness, detachment, and apathy. Affected individuals may be unable to form intimate attachments to others and simultaneously demonstrate a rich, elaborate, and exclusively internal fantasy world. So her actual look is what Rikka looks like, and how she looked in her internal world is her idea of a cool, ideal look, and created her false self that looks like her real self to love her. Thanks googleoid for pointing that out. I guess nobody would've thought that she didn't act normal (even though I think it's more of a depersonalization disorder, but the frame of psychotic discorders is wide and loose)... The only weird thing is, that she went from those thicc thighs to some double digits, which then sounds more like a general depression during puberty - a.k.a. one of your chunibyo tropes. It's worth noting that Rikka and her mom live in the junk shop. The junk shop is a collection of thing that Akane world doesn't want or cannot be destroyed. Hence why Rikka (real Akane) is the part she wants to forget. The whole trigger for this virtual world is because Akane's grandfather died prior to SSSS Gridman events. They explained it in the voice dramas. Her grandfather was very dear to her. He bought expensive running shoes for her and she won a championship with them (hence the thick thighs 'cuz she's a runner). Rikka (real Akane) already has some shut in syndrome. Her friends say in the voice drama that she often skip school and doing whatever alone. People here miss a lot of this info since it's not present in the anime. There are loads of info in the opening and voice drama. This is mostly due to the writer having experience writing the old ultraman series which has a lot of hidden meaning in plot. You have to watch Gridman, SSSS Gridman, voice drama and pay attention to the OP and ED to get the full picture. It's a lot to ask for the modern viewer. But once you understand it, you'll appreciate the effort they put in. |
Swagernator said: This was 7/10 show for me, but after looking into it little bit more ... 8/10 is it. What a nice surprise of the year. @YK97 @GemTastical Thanks for the info. You're welcome :D |
deg said: Alexis said on this episode when fighting Gridman that he gave Akane the ability to create Kaijus that are able to create her virtual city/world and later Gridman uses fixer beam to repair or remodel that virtual city/world thats why it works as a standalone world now too even without Akane's godly ability This looks so much like Evangelion! |
DonTrumpolino said: deg said: Alexis said on this episode when fighting Gridman that he gave Akane the ability to create Kaijus that are able to create her virtual city/world and later Gridman uses fixer beam to repair or remodel that virtual city/world thats why it works as a standalone world now too even without Akane's godly ability This looks so much like Evangelion! it is SSSS Gridman Final Note "Take care of yourself." - Studio Trigger https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/a8tx5z/ssss_gridman_final_note_take_care_of_yourself/ the title of Evangelion's final episode is also "Take care of yourself" https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/a8tx5z/ssss_gridman_final_note_take_care_of_yourself/ecec6lr/ |
| Rikka is based on Akane's IRL look This is too convoluted to make sense, and it seems to come from nowhere. |
syncrogazer said: Rikka is based on Akane's IRL look This is too convoluted to make sense, and it seems to come from nowhere. the plot become too complex with just that one scene in the end right? lol and we are all saying at first that Gridman is a kids show with a simple story too |
deg said: the plot become too complex with just that one scene in the end right? lol and we are all saying at first that Gridman is a kids show with a simple story too I'm not saying that though? It's just that interpretation seems to be based on nonsense. (Like the 3DPD Akane having black hair...yeah, that's a surprise) |
syncrogazer said: deg said: the plot become too complex with just that one scene in the end right? lol and we are all saying at first that Gridman is a kids show with a simple story too I'm not saying that though? It's just that interpretation seems to be based on nonsense. (Like the 3DPD Akane having black hair...yeah, that's a surprise) its not none sense interpretation when we got evidence like this It's Akane. The picture frame in the background says Akane at the top https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/a8mr80/ssssgridman_episode_12_discussion_final/ecc30xp/  |
deg said: It's Akane. Yeah...that's not what I'm talking about though. How does that prove that Rikka is 'based' on IRL Akane? |
syncrogazer said: deg said: It's Akane. Yeah...that's not what I'm talking about though. How does that prove that Rikka is 'based' on IRL Akane? i doubt Trigger will say any concrete proof about that, they left that for viewers to fill in the gaps |
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