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OneTrueEmiya said: Figured as much lolTokoya said: Is this a joke? I'd say it is, but it's Fai. So no, it isn't. Comparing this to the trainwreck that is anime AgK... -_-" Oh well, I'll just sit back and watch from now on as I wait for the subs |
astroprogs said: TBH i don't really have a problem with Caster's backstory, how it was done, or even how pointless it is in the big picture. It just makes me remember Miura's "We added new scenes because there wasn't enough content" and "Nasu gave us a lot of information, but it was so confusing". Still, i can't fault the actual content of this episode for it, because it was done well IMO. THe padding filler was needlessly grimdark and served absolutely no purpose in terms of neither plot nor characters and did a piss poor job at making us care about the caster. The fact that it took place INSTEAD of canon material is even more disgusting. |
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OneTrueEmiya said: CookingPriest said: Please do explain what is so awesome about this adaptation and how it can stand on its own. I am so tired of idiots downplaying legitimate criticism with "Oh you so salty". If you don't have what to say, don't say anything. Oh, there are plenty of problems, I don't think anyone's denying it. But you're constantly shoving this in our faces, and it's getting tiring. Some people just want to enjoy this and feel nostalgic again. And don't get me started on your hyperbolic comparisons. DEEN? AgK? Calm down ffs. This is basically my feelings for the last 2 months articulated rather well into a paragraph. Thank you |
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Jtiger987 said: Fai is actually Archer. Fai = Archer = Miura Is this canon or anime original? Definitely filler. I'm going with filler. |
astroprogs said: TBH i don't really have a problem with Caster's backstory, how it was done, or even how pointless it is in the big picture. It just makes me remember Miura's "We added new scenes because there wasn't enough content" and "Nasu gave us a lot of information, but it was so confusing". Still, i can't fault the actual content of this episode for it, because it was done well IMO. Alright this makes sense :) |
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CookingPriest said: CarenPriest said: The anime's pretty awesome IMO, but the salt...it interferes with the enjoyment... Please do explain what is so awesome about this adaptation and how it can stand on its own. I am so tired of idiots downplaying legitimate criticism with "Oh you so salty". If you don't have what to say, don't say anything. We're not downplaying your criticism by calling you salty, Fai. We note your criticisms and move on, but then you just keep hanging around shoving the same complaints in our faces - like you can't imagine anyone enjoying the show after they hear your points. We could just argue with you all day, but everyone knows it won't solve anything, so we just move on and call you salty for only dwelling on the problems. |
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| [quote=WormPriest] CookingPriest said: I gotcha.....That's why I don't get into arguments over here anymore lolEh, Fai does take this a bit over-board, I agree. He's kind of missing the enjoyable factor it has and is more so focusing on the feedback it gets. That's kind of how you start acting like if you go around defending the series - like Fai does - because of things people misunderstand and hate on it. |
CookingPriest said: CarenPriest said: The anime's pretty awesome IMO, but the salt...it interferes with the enjoyment... Please do explain what is so awesome about this adaptation and how it can stand on its own. I am so tired of idiots downplaying legitimate criticism with "Oh you so salty". If you don't have what to say, don't say anything. it's not about whether the criticism is legitimate or not, Fai. It's about how much complaints there are right now, thrown about everywhere, interfering with the hype of people who do still enjoy it. I could try and explain to you why the UBW anime's still awesome, but from past experience over the past six or so months I've known you, I doubt it'd change your mind. You're free to express your own opinion and I'm free to express my own too, that much is true. Still, it's bothersome when all we hear from you (and others from time to time) is how this adaptation's getting worse and worse and worse, and how you express your pessimistic opinion with such frequency that you're pretty much famous for it now. Again, it's not about whether the opinion is legitimate or not. It's about the discouraging attitude you keep on displaying in every thread, and how you'll appear in tons of F/SN threads to criticize others' positive opinions. Being pushy, being cynical towards everyone else, and now you've just called the ones who try to point out that behaviour as 'idiots' - there is very much reason to raise our voice about this, I believe. Seriously, dude...if you don't like it anymore, then at least stop commenting so much. |
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Mickdrew said: astroprogs said: TBH i don't really have a problem with Caster's backstory, how it was done, or even how pointless it is in the big picture. It just makes me remember Miura's "We added new scenes because there wasn't enough content" and "Nasu gave us a lot of information, but it was so confusing". Still, i can't fault the actual content of this episode for it, because it was done well IMO. In the end, it all goes back to Miura directing. God help us if he does the HF movies. WrongPriest said: astroprogs said: TBH i don't really have a problem with Caster's backstory, how it was done, or even how pointless it is in the big picture. It just makes me remember Miura's "We added new scenes because there wasn't enough content" and "Nasu gave us a lot of information, but it was so confusing". Still, i can't fault the actual content of this episode for it, because it was done well IMO. A little fast, but I reckon those 7 minutes will help. Just like Shirou arriving at the church being I. The BD. I wonder what will they add, though. I thought what they had in this episode was enough. |
Grey-Zone said: Those are people on the level who put "People die when they are killed that's how it should be." Out of context and made a meme out of it. It does not matter whether ufo shows it correctly or not, most of them lack the brain capacities to comprehend it. Their "opinions" are not something can warrants attention and even less they are anything to measure the quality of the adaption on. Now, this I can fully agree on. A lot of these people take stuff out of context and act pretty childishly dumb about it because they can't grasp the situation presented to them. I mean, we get a few stupid shitposts about the VN, too. |
WormPriest said: Grey-Zone said: Those are people on the level who put "People die when they are killed that's how it should be." Out of context and made a meme out of it. It does not matter whether ufo shows it correctly or not, most of them lack the brain capacities to comprehend it. Their "opinions" are not something can warrants attention and even less they are anything to measure the quality of the adaption on. Now, this I can fully agree on. A lot of these people take stuff out of context and act pretty childishly dumb about it because they can't grasp the situation presented to them. I mean, we get a few stupid shitposts about the VN, too. +1 to the above. too much salt over nothing tbh. I missed the screening but Im peppered. is this the operation gil ep? |
WormPriest said: Grey-Zone said: Those are people on the level who put "People die when they are killed that's how it should be." Out of context and made a meme out of it. It does not matter whether ufo shows it correctly or not, most of them lack the brain capacities to comprehend it. Their "opinions" are not something can warrants attention and even less they are anything to measure the quality of the adaption on. Now, this I can fully agree on. A lot of these people take stuff out of context and act pretty childishly dumb about it because they can't grasp the situation presented to them. I mean, we get a few stupid shitposts about the VN, too. Plus the animtion is attracting a lot of shounenfags whose attention span is pretty much non-existent... |
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WrongPriest said: OneTrueEmiya said: Oh, there are plenty of problems, I don't think anyone's denying it. But you're constantly shoving this in our faces, and it's getting tiring. Some people just want to enjoy this and feel nostalgic again. And don't get me started on your hyperbolic comparisons. DEEN? AgK? Calm down ffs. This is basically my feelings for the last 2 months articulated rather well into a paragraph. Thank you I couldn't take it anymore. He's making this adaptation seem worse than it is, and he's ruining my nostalgic mood. YES IT'S NOT PERFECT OR ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THAT. SHIROU IS UNDERDEVELOPED. THERE IS FANSERVICE. CAN WE ENJOY THE FUCKING ADAPTATION NOW? Now that that's out of my system, I'd comment on how great the change in tone was between Shinji Servant scene (which is comedic, dear salts) and Gil slaughter scene. It was a good contrast and set up how big a douche Gil is. |
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HungryPriest said: I'd agree, but this late in the game? There are a lot of places they could have visualized better his character. We wouldn't need an entire ep for him then. Especially since it's all about his development, it would also fit the story better. *shrug* Ya, Mirua really should have just let 5 mins every other episode with Shirou just reflecting on things and seeing his perspective on some things because we've mainly only see what's going on the outside with him, but we need to see what's going on in the inside as well. However, that never happened. So a whole episode dedicated to him is the only thing I can think of that can really explain his character ion better detail..... |
Grapekiwi said: is this the operation gil ep? No, it's the "how to turn 2 homunculi back into the natural state they were in before twisted scientific magical experiments turned them into killer machines" The doctor is the good guy here, right? |
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OneTrueEmiya said: CookingPriest said: Please do explain what is so awesome about this adaptation and how it can stand on its own. I am so tired of idiots downplaying legitimate criticism with "Oh you so salty". If you don't have what to say, don't say anything. Oh, there are plenty of problems, I don't think anyone's denying it. But you're constantly shoving this in our faces, and it's getting tiring. Some people just want to enjoy this and feel nostalgic again. And don't get me started on your hyperbolic comparisons. DEEN? AgK? Calm down ffs. This, pretty much this. You put it a lot simpler than I did, Emiya Shirou~ |
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chat77 said: Plus the animtion is attracting a lot of shounenfags whose attention span is pretty much non-existent... The only thing I'm worried about are all the snobs on review sites and elsewhere that will dismiss the message of morality in this show as being "pointless yapping about nothing". We've already seen it whenever Archer, Shirou, Caster, or anyone talked about the purpose behind killing or saving someone - people would bitch about how pretentious the show is, then demand they go back to hacking and slashing. |
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CookingPriest said: astroprogs said: TBH i don't really have a problem with Caster's backstory, how it was done, or even how pointless it is in the big picture. It just makes me remember Miura's "We added new scenes because there wasn't enough content" and "Nasu gave us a lot of information, but it was so confusing". Still, i can't fault the actual content of this episode for it, because it was done well IMO. THe padding filler was needlessly grimdark and served absolutely no purpose in terms of neither plot nor characters and did a piss poor job at making us care about the caster. The fact that it took place INSTEAD of canon material is even more disgusting. "Needlessly grimdark" isn't a valid criticism, though. It doesn't contradict canon, and is inline with how magi act. I'm waiting for the subs ATM, but i think it made it clear to the viewers how Caster isn't as bad as they first though, giving more weight to a certain upcoming scene. "The fact that it took place INSTEAD of canon material is even more disgusting." Using an exaggerated description like 'disgusting' aside, i agree. Miura is wasting runtime on relatively inconsequential scenes. |
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CarenPriest said: OneTrueEmiya said: Oh, there are plenty of problems, I don't think anyone's denying it. But you're constantly shoving this in our faces, and it's getting tiring. Some people just want to enjoy this and feel nostalgic again. And don't get me started on your hyperbolic comparisons. DEEN? AgK? Calm down ffs. This, pretty much this. You put it a lot simpler than I did, Emiya Shirou~ In other words, you're a baka. Caren-chan, so tsun so dere <3 now if only kirei would stop disturbing our private time |
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Grey-Zone said: Grapekiwi said: is this the operation gil ep? No, it's the "how to turn 2 homunculi back into the natural they were in before twisted scientific magical experiments turned them into killer machines" The doctor is the good guy here, right? always is. xcllnt said: Grapekiwi said: is this the operation gil ep? Next one probably. haha, thanks gil |
astroprogs said: CookingPriest said: THe padding filler was needlessly grimdark and served absolutely no purpose in terms of neither plot nor characters and did a piss poor job at making us care about the caster. The fact that it took place INSTEAD of canon material is even more disgusting. "Needlessly grimdark" isn't a valid criticism, though. It doesn't contradict canon, and is inline with how magi act. I'm waiting for the subs ATM, but i think it made it clear to the viewers how Caster isn't as bad as they first though, giving more weight to a certain upcoming scene. "The fact that it took place INSTEAD of canon material is even more disgusting." Using an exaggerated description like 'disgusting' aside, i agree. Miura is wasting runtime on relatively inconsequential scenes. So basically you agree that this episode was utterly pointless? GOod. |
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CookingPriest said: So basically you agree that this episode was utterly pointless? GOod. "No one here wants a perfect 1:1 carbon copy adaption" |
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WormPriest said: Now this is what I like. :j I honestly expected Shinji to be more badass in this scene. But they made it so that it actually makes sense. Fuck you, Miura. |
CookingPriest said: So basically you agree that this episode was utterly pointless? GOod. Not utterly. We still got Rin rekt scene. |
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Mickdrew said: chat77 said: Plus the animtion is attracting a lot of shounenfags whose attention span is pretty much non-existent... The only thing I'm worried about are all the snobs on review sites and elsewhere that will dismiss the message of morality in this show as being "pointless yapping about nothing". We've already seen it whenever Archer, Shirou, Caster, or anyone talked about the purpose behind killing or saving someone - people would bitch about how pretentious the show is, then demand they go back to hacking and slashing. Its like a double-edge sword to be honest.UFO's animation is attracting a lot of newcomers but at the same time,its sort of drawing the attention of those two-faced individuals who revel in shiting on popular franchise and whose attention span,as I have said before really is non-existent.... |
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Grey-Zone said: CookingPriest said: So basically you agree that this episode was utterly pointless? GOod. "No one here wants a perfect 1:1 carbon copy adaption" Don't bother, it didn't work the previous 8734753 times -_- |
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TrueKireiPriest said: you're in denial about how bad it is10/10 great episode thanks to Kirei. Nothing was wrong in the slightest. People are in denial over how great the show is. |
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CookingPriest said: So basically you agree that this episode was utterly pointless? GOod. I wouldn't say to was COMPLETELY useless, because it enhances an upcoming scene. It's RELATIVELY inconsequential, not completely. |
TrueKireiPriest said: 10/10 great episode thanks to Kirei. Nothing was wrong in the slightest. People are in denial over how great the show is. Sacasm and Kirei aside, I agree. Finally, we agree on something you fake priest :3 |
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OneTrueEmiya said: Caren-chan, so tsun so dere <3 now if only kirei would stop disturbing our private time Keep telling yourself this is anything but your alone time, son of Kiritsugu. |
I am the Priest of my church Yuetsu is my body, and wine is my blood I have trolled over a thousand users Unknown to sympathy, nor known to apathy Withstood Shirou to eat Mapo Tofu Yet, my question will never be answered So as I rejoice, Unlimited Kirei Works! |
HungryPriest said: CookingPriest said: So basically you agree that this episode was utterly pointless? GOod. Not utterly. We still got Rin rekt scene. Okay. "2 minutes of 20 minute episode wer enot useless" astroprogs said: CookingPriest said: So basically you agree that this episode was utterly pointless? GOod. I wouldn't say to was COMPLETELY useless, because it enhances an upcoming scene. It's RELATIVELY inconsequential, not completely. Enhances at the cost of caster's characterization. So yes it is pointless. |
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TrueKireiPriest said: OneTrueEmiya said: Caren-chan, so tsun so dere <3 now if only kirei would stop disturbing our private time Keep telling yourself this is anything but your alone time, son of Kiritsugu. You're just jealous you aren't reaping the profits of jackhammering, dear fake priest~ |
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CookingPriest said: astroprogs said: I wouldn't say to was COMPLETELY useless, because it enhances an upcoming scene. It's RELATIVELY inconsequential, not completely. Enhances at the cost of caster's characterization. So yes it is pointless. It wasn't at the cost of her characterization. The scene could've been substituted with some HA scenes for greater effect, but what we had wasn't 100% useless. |
OneTrueEmiya said: TrueKireiPriest said: Keep telling yourself this is anything but your alone time, son of Kiritsugu. You're just jealous you aren't reaping the profits of jackhammering, dear fake priest~ There you have it Caren, the man who wishes to be the object of your affections. I don't think Emiya Shirou is your best option. I just gave you Lancer and Gilgamesh, problem solved |
I am the Priest of my church Yuetsu is my body, and wine is my blood I have trolled over a thousand users Unknown to sympathy, nor known to apathy Withstood Shirou to eat Mapo Tofu Yet, my question will never be answered So as I rejoice, Unlimited Kirei Works! |
| 4 pages of nitpicking already and its hardly been finished. Sasuga UBW subforum. |
astroprogs said: CookingPriest said: Enhances at the cost of caster's characterization. So yes it is pointless. It wasn't at the cost of her characterization. The scene could've been substituted with some HA scenes for greater effect, but what we had wasn't 100% useless. I'd rather we got her backstory told in VN animated. Her actual historical backstory. That makes us care for her. |
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Feaor said: 4 pages of nitpicking already and its hardly been finished. Sasuga UBW subforum. Yare yare, only 4 pages. The salt has begun to recede. Alaya does her work quietly, it seems~ TrueKireiPriest said: OneTrueEmiya said: You're just jealous you aren't reaping the profits of jackhammering, dear fake priest~ There you have it Caren, the man who wishes to be the object of your affections. I don't think Emiya Shirou is your best option. I just gave you Lancer and Gilgamesh, problem solved ffs, stop cockblocking me >:( |
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Feaor said: so we should just act as if we're blind to its flaws?4 pages of nitpicking already and its hardly been finished. Sasuga UBW subforum. |
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CookingPriest said: I'd rather we got her backstory told in VN animated. Her actual historical backstory. That makes us care for her. Ditto. What we had wasn't THAT bad, still. |
astroprogs said: CookingPriest said: I'd rather we got her backstory told in VN animated. Her actual historical backstory. That makes us care for her. Ditto. What we had wasn't THAT bad, still. IT was way way way worse than VN backstory and would not make anime onlies even give a shit about caster. |
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OneTrueEmiya said: TrueKireiPriest said: There you have it Caren, the man who wishes to be the object of your affections. I don't think Emiya Shirou is your best option. I just gave you Lancer and Gilgamesh, problem solved ffs, stop cockblocking me >:( Just performing my fatherly duty. I wouldn't expect you to understand since Kiritsugu died already. |
I am the Priest of my church Yuetsu is my body, and wine is my blood I have trolled over a thousand users Unknown to sympathy, nor known to apathy Withstood Shirou to eat Mapo Tofu Yet, my question will never be answered So as I rejoice, Unlimited Kirei Works! |
CookingPriest said: astroprogs said: Ditto. What we had wasn't THAT bad, still. IT was way way way worse than VN backstory and would not make anime onlies even give a shit about caster. You don't know that. Besides, at this point in time, they don't really need to. |
MyNameIsJeff said: Most of the salt in this thread is people nitpicking about dumb shit that might not even be 100% true because subs aren't out.Feaor said: so we should just act as if we're blind to its flaws?4 pages of nitpicking already and its hardly been finished. Sasuga UBW subforum. |
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