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Nov 12, 2013 1:16 AM

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Wow, did this suck. The first scene dragged on for so long, I was almost surprised when it actually ended. Then the dumb moment with the sister in which she kept babbling the same words over and over. Anyway, this lousy, degrading, irredeemable mess was a waste of time to watch. It's the first episode of the season that made me think it was the worst one yet.
Nov 12, 2013 1:54 AM

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I have never wanted to punch somebody in the throat so much in my life. I hated this douch in the first season. But looks like hes back again, all my rage. I hope this cocksucker gets beaten to within an inch of his life.
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Nov 12, 2013 2:42 AM

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They rushed a lot but this goes over it pretty well tho.
In the manga they just went over the parts and it just talks about the 2-3 days that Luis came over.
It's almost the same but it was pretty cruel to watch cause it was animated...
And they are "brothers and sister" but not really. Only in name since satella came from another mother and luis is from the main mother that the father is married to.
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Nov 12, 2013 8:29 AM

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MacMeaties said:
I'm gonna be blunt here with this one. This is just a lack of understanding of psychological trauma. Do not underestimate the control an abuser can have over their victim mentally. When a person has been broken to the degree Satellizer was they do not act as a normal person would nor how any reasonable bystander would expect them to. Passage of time or physically ability have no relevance if the mental issues are never addressed, and in this case they not only weren't addressed, they were exacerbated. She was severely bullied for her aphephobia from day one at East Genetics and continued to be in West Genetics after she was transfered there for crippling Levon Brooks who tried to force her into making him her limiter.
To be frank the fact she comes out of the other side of this without the aid of psychiatric counseling or medication is a miracle.


This. Too many people came to see their waifu and they can't fap to her because she's mentally ill and being abused.

This season is much better than S1's massive load of fanservice and awkward romance. I can see why people are upset it isn't a carbon copy of the manga, but I haven't seen the manga and it isn't too hard to read between the lines.
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Nov 12, 2013 11:35 AM

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Wow that was pretty epic, liked how she was completely struck by trauma, her mind from back then taking over completely due to shock and fear. Just wish Kazuya could get some shots in too, would love to see him see Satellizer walk away with Kazuya, happy.


Nov 12, 2013 1:19 PM

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Im glad they rushed throught this arc. It is the most vile arc in the series. Also the ending will leave alot of people fuming.

That being said the Alaska Arc is one of the best arc in the series and this series is miles better then the first series.
Nov 12, 2013 5:45 PM
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I love this season but why did they have to drag Siblings out to 3ep? I love how all the people bitched that this was "left out" and now we have this horrid arc and people hate it... or will when they see how it ends.

All I can say is please please please change the ending of this arc from the manga. I had to step away from the manga for about a month out of rage.
Nov 12, 2013 8:38 PM
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Im glad they rushed throught this arc. It is the most vile arc in the series. Also the ending will leave alot of people fuming.

That being said the Alaska Arc is one of the best arc in the series and this series is miles better then the first series.


Most vile? I guess it depends on what you consider vile.

I tend to see torture to the point of screwing someone's brain up worse.

Or current ch manga spoiler:


NakkiNya said:
I love this season but why did they have to drag Siblings out to 3ep? I love how all the people bitched that this was "left out" and now we have this horrid arc and people hate it... or will when they see how it ends.

All I can say is please please please change the ending of this arc from the manga. I had to step away from the manga for about a month out of rage.


Could you explain how the ending is rage inducing? That wasn't my take on it so I am curious.

The siblings arc ending
Nov 13, 2013 4:28 AM
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OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I though my brain was going to burst and my eyes pop out!..!!!!! SO FREAKING DARKK AS HELLL!! seriously! Was really hard to watch!!!!! That Aoi, MAN CAN'T U FREAKING PROTECT UR WOMAN!!!! *Big Sigh* *Big Sigh* Okay there done with ranting ...man I don't know how much I will last with this series (thinking about dropping it at the same time I don't want to)...Alright now gotta watch something happy
Nov 13, 2013 9:32 AM

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Dr_Smurph said:
Could you explain how the ending is rage inducing? That wasn't my take on it so I am curious.

The siblings arc ending


People tend to dislike the end to the sibling arc because



Side note for you. I read the raws so am up to chapter 151 and you'll be very surprised at how that spoiler with Rox turns out :D
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Nov 13, 2013 10:31 AM

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I love how Satellizer cripples Levon Brooks who tried to force her into making him her limiter and refuses to baptize with Kazuya, but when she gets home after being independent and maturing for 4 years she all of sudden becomes super traumatized. So traumatized that she lets
Yep thats the end of the story and despite all the hardships Satellizer endured at school and since leaving that house Satellizer is still just as weak.
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Nov 13, 2013 12:31 PM

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I love how much some people completely miss the mark (¬_¬). The lack of understanding about psychological trauma people have astounds and depresses me.
Nov 14, 2013 1:58 AM

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While I wish they did more with Holly Louis and Satellizer and actually show
the episode was satisfying for me. I am so excited for next weeks ep as always.
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I read the manga and i didnt like the end of siblings Arc


And Kazuya ,i hate this fuckin "good for nothing shounen main-type" seriously, i only watch this show for the top 5 students and the fan service, now im enjoying alaska arc but that shit from sibling arc rly gave me a worst perpective about Satella,Kazuya and the mangaka.
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All I want to know is
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Nov 15, 2013 5:47 AM

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All I want to know is


Plenty of psychological and physical abuse but
rodacDec 23, 2013 3:34 PM
Nov 15, 2013 2:43 PM
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Then what's up with the quick image in that scene were she's bent over and he's behing her.. both are completely nude
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Nov 15, 2013 4:55 PM

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this episode was kite boring honestly, well looking forward for the next one
Nov 16, 2013 9:45 PM

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Freezing is now Diabolik Lovers.
Nov 17, 2013 1:46 AM

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So painful to watch this episode. My heart almost stopped while watching this.
Nov 24, 2013 11:13 AM

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Wow ... okay this was a bit difficult to watch :S Louis got Satella under his control again ... and from that part in the middle there he's sure got an interesting version of "love" lol
So he called both Kazuya and Satella out just to what ... break them up I guess? Rousing speech by Kazuya there (he admitted he loved her eh?) but Holly's there as well ... didn't expect her to be Louis' partner :O She's supposed to be super strong too ... hmm, it seems like he's still the one giving orders though, whereas I thought it was normally the other way round? Well we'll see what happens next time ... I bet Satella will somehow save Kazuya right? Push him out of the way maybe? Hmm ...
Nov 30, 2013 6:45 PM
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This episode kind of goes counter to the reason Satellizer has so much determination. Her mother told her never to bow to anyone on her deathbed but does it in this episode.
Dec 21, 2013 7:24 AM

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Wow, dropped!
I understand its for just fan service but this is is WAY to much, not on he fan service part but on the story line!
Dec 23, 2013 12:40 PM

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Yvese said:
Didn't find this ep that bad. People need to realize that PTSD is real. Yes, she can kick his ass since she's a Pandora, but her ordeal happened long before she became one.

She'll get over this once and for all in the next ep. Either skip it or get over it.

The real issue here is people are more affected by this kind of stuff rather than people getting their limbs cut off, getting injured badly, or even dying. We've been conditioned to brush off most of that, yet the moment we get into rape or anything similar, people lose their shit.

Same shit with people going crazy when there's a nipple/sex/nudity on TV or a movie, yet said tv/movie just had someone get blown to bits and not a single fuck was given.




Exactly. All of them are such childish hypocrites. I lose faith in humanity just reading all their posts of stupidity.
Also the idea of something not actually being bad just because it shows something unpleasant seems to go over the heads of this immature silly people.


Anyway thought still the whole thing sucks not because we have horrible guy Louis being the shitfuck that he is but because everything is so rushed and cheaply made than no matter what emotions or what plot point this anime tries to show they screw it over.

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So this is the sibling arc that people were so scared to watch it !! LOL

Sometimes I feel that some of you here were abused like satellizer because I don't understand why you can't handle watching something like that. I absolutely didn't find anything hard to watch. I expected something much worse than that after reading the comments.



That's because many here are just teenage kids that see even porn as a big deal.
So yeah you are right but in fairness to the arc what you saw is not the sibling arc. Is just a swallow fast forward cut and butchered half-ass showing and nothing more. Not that reading the manga will make you shocked out of your pants or anything but the development of characters etc at least makes a fucking sense.
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Dec 23, 2013 1:13 PM

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Natsurito said:
Dr_Smurph said:


rodac said:
As to whether the manga does it better: it's rare when manga readers don't complain about the quality of the adaptation. This is just par for the course. From an anime only point of view, I think the interpolation of the family arc into the E-Pandora arc works fairly well. I just hope they wrap this one up quick so we can get back to help Elizabeth.


It's natural to "complain" when you read the original content and see an adaptation that falls short. I don't think it's even an issue. Plenty of manga viewers have enough common sense to realize why the anime adaptations exists in the first place and that it's almost impossible to do a completely proper adaptation on the amount of episodes they are given. However I can see why the other side sees it as whining or complaining.

I'll say this, even if I was an anime only viewer, I can tell you I would notice it was rushed and not properly flushed out so far in the new arc. However we won't know until next episode what they might have change around. So it may still work.

It's up in the air at this point.


Agreed with Dr_Smurf. There are some anime that i've watch that i didn't read the manga/novel and i could tell that anime was rush or not.

Well, everybody who read the manga of course give high expectation toward the anime and of course would whining and complaining but you read all the comment that whining, did or did not they said it was 'bad' / was 'boring' was 'the worst adaption'? Nope. It just skip a few scene and a bit different. But, Freezing fans still likes it.


Look am the kind of guy that hates reading manga readers complaining and making comparisons in every anime version that comes out BUT in Freezing case is just about as bad as an adaptation can get.

There are many manga readers that don't care even if an anime changes something that actually has the potential to be better. They are so inlove with their manga that they want to see everything exactly the same and get raged even for the smallest change or detail.

They are really annoying fucks but this is not the case with Freezing. It literally is a majorly worse version. Also i don't buy this "anime will never be as good" bullshit. I have seen anime that are every bit as good as a manga and better. Hell if i was making Freezing i would change quite a few scenes and developments to improve on the work cause it has potential to be even better. This anime though just makes everything SOOOO fucking worse. It's not an exaggeration to say that this is probably one of the top ten worse adaptations where everything took a big turn to the worse.
Dec 28, 2013 6:39 PM

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did i just watched brohther fucking his sister ????? !!!!!!! MAN JAPAN REALLY !!!
Jan 2, 2014 1:23 AM

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I seem to have downloaded some incest-ntr-rape-mind break hentai instead of ep6 of Freezing.
Jan 4, 2014 4:17 PM
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No joke this episode here (combined with the dissapointment from the first half of the season) made me drop the show just now.
Jan 5, 2014 1:15 AM
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WOW i've watched throught the whole thing and my mind is about to explode how pissed off i am and i wanna kill that son of a bitch. aoi needs to fckin man up and teach that asshole a lesson. fck this episode is painful.
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Jan 26, 2014 2:43 AM

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I hated this episodeas it was just too painful to view but I did like watching it because if the intense and the feeling in the heart that you want to punch the F*** out of Louis .

Come on Satellizer, Should have done something than becoming a W*ore letting,Louis do anything and not Aoi.

AoixRana now since it pissed me off Satellizer just becomes a weak girl when it comes to Louis
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Mar 22, 2014 8:17 AM

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OK, so first of all, this episode was so damn depressing, and what is wrong with Luis? this is the first time of my entire life that i really hate an anime character, tell me i'm crazy but i'm telling you the truth, it feels like i'm going to kill Luis again and over again untill he can't be reborn again, he should've just die for love sake !, and i hate Kazuya for being weak, he can't even do anything, friggin' weak character..
Apr 26, 2014 11:24 AM
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Damn it, people, of course Satellizer is a freaking powerful pandora that she can just destroy Louis with one hand, but she can't do anything because of the trauma she developed and that kiddy shit started way back when she is still not a pandora if I am correct.
Sure, Kazuya is a fucking pussy for being weak but at least he knows how to fight, and knows how to use his mouth.
I want to fucking slaughter Louis. Kazuya, please do the honor. It looks like Violet knows shit too.
I have seen way too many Hentai with NTR already that I don't feel shit anymore, still fucks up my mind though. I fucking hate NTR!!!!!!
I like this arc though because I am into psychological shits that'll fuck up your mind.
I will definitely fucking read the Manga woohooo!!!!!
That's it for today, gotta sleep already, got school tomorrow =_=
Apr 26, 2014 11:28 AM
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Wow that was awful to watch.

But did she get raped/had sex with her brother? Or he just played around with her?
He just played around. Indeed, he said "Why were you born as my sister?".



Don't be so sure.......unless if you have got some evidence stated in the Manga that they didn't have sex. I sure hope that Satellizer is still a virgin because Kazuya deserves it ahahaha.
Jun 5, 2014 12:22 AM

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What an asshole. He should get punished.
Jun 5, 2014 11:46 AM
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Alright! I have recently just watched the anime though I have read the manga. I have a slight confusion regarding the sibling arc. This is because in the manga, when Luis asked Satellizer if he could sleep with her, Satellizer said 'haven't you already...' which in my perspective implies that they had done it before in the past. My question is, is Satellizer still a virgin? I would like a straight answer like yes or no with clear justification from the manga. I would appreciate it a lot if someone would answer my question.
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Didn't find this ep that bad. People need to realize that PTSD is real. Yes, she can kick his ass since she's a Pandora, but her ordeal happened long before she became one.

She'll get over this once and for all in the next ep. Either skip it or get over it.

The real issue here is people are more affected by this kind of stuff rather than people getting their limbs cut off, getting injured badly, or even dying. We've been conditioned to brush off most of that, yet the moment we get into rape or anything similar, people lose their shit.

Same shit with people going crazy when there's a nipple/sex/nudity on TV or a movie, yet said tv/movie just had someone get blown to bits and not a single fuck was given.


Bad influence caused by nudity may have a much worse subsequent effect than the example you gave after.


Monad said:
Exactly. All of them are such childish hypocrites. I lose faith in humanity just reading all their posts of stupidity.
Also the idea of something not actually being bad just because it shows something unpleasant seems to go over the heads of this immature silly people.


Umm... Perhaps the fact that, to maintain one's own dignity is considered of more importance than losing one's own life has something to do with...?
"unpleasant"...? What're you trying to diminish? xD It's terrible, really... And although I haven't watched the entire show - I got it that the girl is of a rich family, right? Think those chains represents her fear from HIM? Nah, I'd say what's chaining / has chained her is/was her family's prestige... to taint it would be such a sin. (*Laughs*)

The show seemed to have been throwing that disgusting factual-part of reality at the viewers' faces in this episode... Can't expect them to enjoy it.
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They have no time to actually develop the plot but the rape scene takes forever.

» Escapism.


Jul 13, 2014 6:30 PM

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Ah fuck this was really fucked up... I really hope Aoi will put him on his place or at least whoop his ass good!
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Oct 29, 2014 2:04 PM

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28% hated it? Oh well I can see why. Kazuya and Satellizer were so stupid this episode... hope they man up in the next one.
Nov 13, 2014 7:10 AM

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One thing I don't get...

I can understand that Satellizer is has a traumatic fear of Louis.

What I don't get is the change from thinking "I'm different now, I don't have to do this" when calling him master, and then thinking she hates him and being touched by him, while laying on the bed... to offering to have sex with him... a couple seconds later.

She might obey due to trauma, but that isn't going to make her suddenly switch to sex slave mode. (especially because that wasn't something they did in the past.)

That pretty much ruined the whole arc for me. From traumatic past, with sad empathy with Satellizer, and catharsis at her recovery... to just disliking her character.

I don't really care for Aoi, but I don't dislike him. Before I was rooting for satellizer x aoi... but found myself thinking "damn, he should be with the crazy girl instead, nobody deserves putting up with that mess..." :P
Dec 15, 2014 7:53 PM

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I really hate Luis. He should just vanish from existence. Go die in a fire.
Dec 29, 2014 6:58 AM

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Episode that shows a subject so loved, namely that concerning the ecchi. Not that he wanted but so much, but I think it's a narrative passage that had to be addressed.
As a plot I do not mind, but I'm a little hesitant about Satella and Aoi, the first wants to do justice and forgets that in his family there that pig's brother? Aoi instead since we know it, is not to have done some kind of evolutionary steps, it being the usual idiot unintuitive.
What a disappointment that have those two, especially Aoi.
Drawings quite ugly, animations adequate.
I want to see how it is redeemed by Aoi ugly fool remedied.

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Horrible...i hate Luis......Satella should cut his d..k off.


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Man, one of the hardest episodes I've ever had to watch, why did she submit that easily? It just tore me to pieces seeing someone as strong as Satellizer being handled that way. It was hard enough knowing what he did to her for years while she was living there before, but after all she overcame it just gets stripped away like that... just sad and gut wrenching to see.
Feb 9, 2015 5:43 AM

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there is quick scene where satellizer is bending over louis and both are nude... did she get raped?
Feb 12, 2015 11:32 AM

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Just kill this pussy bridge already. He make real villains looks bad.


poor Satellizer

May 6, 2015 7:15 PM

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28% hated it? Oh well I can see why. Kazuya and Satellizer were so stupid this episode... hope they man up in the next one.
THIS. I like Louis as a character. He is despicable, disgusting, perfect for hating. I would love to hate him. But my hate is far overshadowed by hate for that stupid black haired piece of shit Aoi Kazuya. MEN UP FOR FUCK'S SAKE. Fuck you and your talk-no-jutsu (I believe in Satella-senpai). FFUUUUUUCKKKK YOUUUUUUU. CAN'T YOU SEE SHE IS FUCKED UP YOU STUPID BLIND WIMP?! PROTECT HER YOU LITTLE TWAT. Seriously, fuck you Aoi Kazuya. No backbone at all.
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I hate that guy so much. Can't believe he did all those things to her and I forgot all about him. I'm pretty sure im not the only one that wants to punch the shit out of that bastard...

I hope something bad happens to him in the next epside so she can be free from his dirty hands...
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Pleasantly surprised how they handled this compared to the manga. Here you clearly see Bridget being completely broken and have developed a different personality in a way, on that seems to both love and utterly fear her brother. This is a psychological thing, and you can't just wish it away. Anyway, the manga depicted rape and extreme pleasure from Stella, and here in the anime adaption i guess it's up for discussion if the rape even took place.
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WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU ENJOYING THIS EPISODE? FUCKING AUTHOR
otome dori?
wtf am i watching right now? shit. I wish I drop this anime before. hahays. why ?
shit. I just punched the wall right now :D...
shit netorare. if they plan making this kind f plot. why they need to make it a tv. they should make this a hentai.

i want to drop it but i cant. i want to see the that shitty louis get burned to death.


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