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Jan 28, 2015 8:05 AM
#101
StrayBotato said: Insertanamehere said: No, DEEN made sure to make Caster look weak as hell.Um....spoilers, I think? Unless DEEN revealed that too. Oversight I suppose. Yes I know, everyone else was a rotten vegetable too but she was shown to be useless against rotten vegetables so she has it worse. Hentai said Rider's name before the edit, which is what I was referring to. |
Feb 24, 2015 10:03 AM
#102
Oh look Shirou walks alone into a trap... again. This is the what, fifth time or something he does that? Never saw a MC who simply doesn't learn a single thing from his mistakes and keeps repeating them at the worst times. Kriei being a bad guy was pretty predictable, though I thought he'd be allied with Gilgamesh and not Lancer. Still it's good to see Lancer again, he was gone for quite a bunch of epsiodes. |
Mar 4, 2015 7:55 PM
#103
lmao Sabers cooking skills hey look its Lancer. aaaaand Shirou gets skewered again in the same episode. |
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Nov 27, 2015 4:38 AM
#104
>Dat Kiss OH YEAH!! >Dat Mana Replenishment HELL YEAH!!! Loving the romance part in the series. |
Apr 25, 2016 10:04 PM
#105
The King of all Heroes , Gilgamesh . Unyielding . Confession of Scabbard ~ . Like a sweet couple ~ heart emoticon . LOVELY EPISODE . |
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Nov 13, 2016 7:24 PM
#106
Jul 11, 2017 2:22 PM
#107
Arf, after Arthur(ia), it is now the turn of Mordred to be turned into a female. So, that means that the half-sister Morgana was a... a half-brother? ... When Shiro was reminding himself about his Archer self's lesson, I was expecting him to truelly "see himself at his strongest", this being Archer. But he didn't magically grew older with white hairs. Too bad. Magic energy refill ! Second coitus, I guess. How great it was that the house seemed magically empty. 3/5 So the priest's Servant was the Lancer. |
Dec 10, 2017 8:15 PM
#108
Omg...this show is so damn boring. Are any of the other Fate series good or are they all pretty much like this series?? |
Jan 9, 2019 5:50 AM
#109
I'm done with this series. This is so bad really, what's that romance? I don't remember Saber being like that in Zero. Also Shirou is so weak and annoying, worst MC ever. 3 more episodes. I miss so much Fate/Zero. |
Jan 10, 2019 2:06 PM
#110
Well more of the same. This is like a soup opera for shonentards, lul. Also Shirou did it again! He sees a trap and goes straight into it cause why the fuck not, we need to progress the plot somehow! One would think he would have gotten a clue, seeing how this is the fifth or so time this has happened ... And another thing, every event in this series so far leads me to believe that Shirou has actually read the script for the entire show, he knows he won't die anyway cause he has plot armor, so why not have fun abusing it. |
Feb 17, 2019 9:59 PM
#111
I’d have liked to see G just lop Shiro’s head off and stop my suffering. I like all the girls, but Shiro’s gotta go. |
Apr 8, 2019 3:03 PM
#112
"You've entered my mind so many times" -.... but anyway; in the translation i watched, those disembodied voices came from a voice he recognized, but whom's voice was it? also, heck; "There are no dead bodies here." then he goes to check it out -wtf !?!! i was just wondering what the disembodied voice was... |
Jun 9, 2019 8:13 AM
#113
So Saber's daughter legit called Saber 'father'. That's ****ed up. Shirou's really crazy for Saber to the extent he forced the kiss. That's what the defender of justice supposed to act alright. |
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Sep 23, 2019 9:13 PM
#114
Shirou Kissed my Saber. fuck you Shirou |
Nov 8, 2019 1:04 PM
#115
Nov 8, 2019 1:05 PM
#116
Apr 1, 2020 3:09 PM
#117
Oh look Shirou is walking alone...again! And gets into trouble...again! And gets stabbed...again!! Gilgamesh is kinda lame...just another stalker weirdo looking to collect some woman who struck his fancy. Actually what's the difference between him and Shirou? Not much. Not feeling this series TBH. |
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May 18, 2021 11:16 AM
#118
Man Saber is the worst in this adaptation. She is useless most of the time. The forced romance has zero chemistry. Shiro's deus ex machina noble phantasm is cheating. |
Oct 20, 2021 11:58 AM
#119
Man I totally forgot about Lancer and the mana replenishment… very nice |
Nov 11, 2021 9:47 AM
#120
I don't approve of Artoria x Gilgamesh, but if I have to choose between him and Shirou, I would choose Gilgamesh without a second thought. While Gilgamesh sees her as a strong object he must possess, Shirou sees her as a normal, everyday, weak girl. For God's sake go love one of your classmates dude. She is way out of your league. This little love detour of yours disgusts me. She is not a normal girl and she is not an object. She is a knight and a king. Perhaps the one who looked at her with the most respect she deserved was Alexander. He was truly great. I loved this man. So in short both Shirou and Gilgamesh with drag her down, but Shirou will completely obliterate everything that is Saber. I believe Gilgamesh would still let her express her strength with him instead of wiping her completely like Shirou. |
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Nov 12, 2021 10:06 AM
#121
Niveen_Sleem said: I don't approve of Artoria x Gilgamesh, but if I have to choose between him and Shirou, I would choose Gilgamesh without a second thought. While Gilgamesh sees her as a strong object he must possess, Shirou sees her as a normal, everyday, weak girl. For God's sake go love one of your classmates dude. She is way out of your league. This little love detour of yours disgusts me. She is not a normal girl and she is not an object. She is a knight and a king. Perhaps the one who looked at her with the most respect she deserved was Alexander. He was truly great. I loved this man. So in short both Shirou and Gilgamesh with drag her down, but Shirou will completely obliterate everything that is Saber. I believe Gilgamesh would still let her express her strength with him instead of wiping her completely like Shirou. Shirou and Alexander have almost the exact same views on her the difference is that Alexander was making fun of her rule and regrets while Shirou tells her that she did all she could and to take pride in it. How the hell is Shirou worse? And yes she is a normal girl. She is a normal girl that was forced because of a prophecy to become a King that everyone wanted but nobody liked. She forced herself to abandon her gender and even humanity for others but the end result was betrayal and total destruction. How the hell is the guy that respects her for the person she is first and her accomplishments as King worse than the guy that wants her as a trophy wife-sex toy and the guy that makes fun of her every choice and feelings? You all need to pay amore attention to what is going on instead of the age and powerlevel of the protagonist. Alexander was a buffoon that could only raise his voice. Nothing he said really mattered considering what we later find out about his character or the loyalty of his men. |
Nov 14, 2021 11:30 AM
#122
ssjokg said: Niveen_Sleem said: I don't approve of Artoria x Gilgamesh, but if I have to choose between him and Shirou, I would choose Gilgamesh without a second thought. While Gilgamesh sees her as a strong object he must possess, Shirou sees her as a normal, everyday, weak girl. For God's sake go love one of your classmates dude. She is way out of your league. This little love detour of yours disgusts me. She is not a normal girl and she is not an object. She is a knight and a king. Perhaps the one who looked at her with the most respect she deserved was Alexander. He was truly great. I loved this man. So in short both Shirou and Gilgamesh with drag her down, but Shirou will completely obliterate everything that is Saber. I believe Gilgamesh would still let her express her strength with him instead of wiping her completely like Shirou. Shirou and Alexander have almost the exact same views on her the difference is that Alexander was making fun of her rule and regrets while Shirou tells her that she did all she could and to take pride in it. How the hell is Shirou worse? And yes she is a normal girl. She is a normal girl that was forced because of a prophecy to become a King that everyone wanted but nobody liked. She forced herself to abandon her gender and even humanity for others but the end result was betrayal and total destruction. How the hell is the guy that respects her for the person she is first and her accomplishments as King worse than the guy that wants her as a trophy wife-sex toy and the guy that makes fun of her every choice and feelings? You all need to pay amore attention to what is going on instead of the age and powerlevel of the protagonist. Alexander was a buffoon that could only raise his voice. Nothing he said really mattered considering what we later find out about his character or the loyalty of his men. no the one who needs to pay attention is you. You are only scratching the surface Alexander's words. Kings aren't treated like normal people. Just shut up. |
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Nov 14, 2021 11:32 AM
#123
Niveen_Sleem said: ssjokg said: Niveen_Sleem said: I don't approve of Artoria x Gilgamesh, but if I have to choose between him and Shirou, I would choose Gilgamesh without a second thought. While Gilgamesh sees her as a strong object he must possess, Shirou sees her as a normal, everyday, weak girl. For God's sake go love one of your classmates dude. She is way out of your league. This little love detour of yours disgusts me. She is not a normal girl and she is not an object. She is a knight and a king. Perhaps the one who looked at her with the most respect she deserved was Alexander. He was truly great. I loved this man. So in short both Shirou and Gilgamesh with drag her down, but Shirou will completely obliterate everything that is Saber. I believe Gilgamesh would still let her express her strength with him instead of wiping her completely like Shirou. Shirou and Alexander have almost the exact same views on her the difference is that Alexander was making fun of her rule and regrets while Shirou tells her that she did all she could and to take pride in it. How the hell is Shirou worse? And yes she is a normal girl. She is a normal girl that was forced because of a prophecy to become a King that everyone wanted but nobody liked. She forced herself to abandon her gender and even humanity for others but the end result was betrayal and total destruction. How the hell is the guy that respects her for the person she is first and her accomplishments as King worse than the guy that wants her as a trophy wife-sex toy and the guy that makes fun of her every choice and feelings? You all need to pay amore attention to what is going on instead of the age and powerlevel of the protagonist. Alexander was a buffoon that could only raise his voice. Nothing he said really mattered considering what we later find out about his character or the loyalty of his men. no the one who needs to pay attention is you. You are only scratching the surface Alexander's words. Kings aren't treated like normal people. Just shut up. Such understanding of the characters to the point you glorify rapists and outright tyrants. Amazing lack of comprehension ability. |
Nov 14, 2021 12:57 PM
#124
ssjokg said: Niveen_Sleem said: ssjokg said: Niveen_Sleem said: I don't approve of Artoria x Gilgamesh, but if I have to choose between him and Shirou, I would choose Gilgamesh without a second thought. While Gilgamesh sees her as a strong object he must possess, Shirou sees her as a normal, everyday, weak girl. For God's sake go love one of your classmates dude. She is way out of your league. This little love detour of yours disgusts me. She is not a normal girl and she is not an object. She is a knight and a king. Perhaps the one who looked at her with the most respect she deserved was Alexander. He was truly great. I loved this man. So in short both Shirou and Gilgamesh with drag her down, but Shirou will completely obliterate everything that is Saber. I believe Gilgamesh would still let her express her strength with him instead of wiping her completely like Shirou. Shirou and Alexander have almost the exact same views on her the difference is that Alexander was making fun of her rule and regrets while Shirou tells her that she did all she could and to take pride in it. How the hell is Shirou worse? And yes she is a normal girl. She is a normal girl that was forced because of a prophecy to become a King that everyone wanted but nobody liked. She forced herself to abandon her gender and even humanity for others but the end result was betrayal and total destruction. How the hell is the guy that respects her for the person she is first and her accomplishments as King worse than the guy that wants her as a trophy wife-sex toy and the guy that makes fun of her every choice and feelings? You all need to pay amore attention to what is going on instead of the age and powerlevel of the protagonist. Alexander was a buffoon that could only raise his voice. Nothing he said really mattered considering what we later find out about his character or the loyalty of his men. no the one who needs to pay attention is you. You are only scratching the surface Alexander's words. Kings aren't treated like normal people. Just shut up. Such understanding of the characters to the point you glorify rapists and outright tyrants. Amazing lack of comprehension ability. I said Kings aren't treated like normal people. And I said I don't approve of Artoria x Gilgamesh. You have zero understanding of how things work beyond normal daily interactions. It's your problem. Get educated. I know that Gilgamesh would mistreat her. I know he wants her at her strongest so that he can break her with his own two hands. But I also know that Saber is too powerful to let him have his way. I have faith in her. She is so regal, dignified, powerful to be possessed by anyone. In her own words, she is a king before she is a woman. You on the other hand want to rob her away from what makes her who she is for the sake of a trivial love story built on cringey modern standards that doesn't take how the world worked in the past in consideration. In short, you are too narrow-minded to be talking to me. and wait a second, weren't you the same person who put a bitter taste in my mouth when I started watching Fate/Stay Night? don't you dare ever talk to me again. Next time, it's a well deserved block! |
Niveen_SleemNov 14, 2021 1:01 PM
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Nov 14, 2021 1:33 PM
#125
Niveen_Sleem said: With the exception of Gil who isnt even a pure human, why would they be treated like anything else? Because Iskandar says so? Because you say so? Kings are humans and they rely on the people. No matter how much Iskandar tries to prove otherwise. He and many other Kings were brought down by "mere" humans. They are mortals with their own ideals. They just happen to have more political power. Iskandar being a megalomaniac doesnt mean shit.ssjokg said: Niveen_Sleem said: ssjokg said: Niveen_Sleem said: I don't approve of Artoria x Gilgamesh, but if I have to choose between him and Shirou, I would choose Gilgamesh without a second thought. While Gilgamesh sees her as a strong object he must possess, Shirou sees her as a normal, everyday, weak girl. For God's sake go love one of your classmates dude. She is way out of your league. This little love detour of yours disgusts me. She is not a normal girl and she is not an object. She is a knight and a king. Perhaps the one who looked at her with the most respect she deserved was Alexander. He was truly great. I loved this man. So in short both Shirou and Gilgamesh with drag her down, but Shirou will completely obliterate everything that is Saber. I believe Gilgamesh would still let her express her strength with him instead of wiping her completely like Shirou. Shirou and Alexander have almost the exact same views on her the difference is that Alexander was making fun of her rule and regrets while Shirou tells her that she did all she could and to take pride in it. How the hell is Shirou worse? And yes she is a normal girl. She is a normal girl that was forced because of a prophecy to become a King that everyone wanted but nobody liked. She forced herself to abandon her gender and even humanity for others but the end result was betrayal and total destruction. How the hell is the guy that respects her for the person she is first and her accomplishments as King worse than the guy that wants her as a trophy wife-sex toy and the guy that makes fun of her every choice and feelings? You all need to pay amore attention to what is going on instead of the age and powerlevel of the protagonist. Alexander was a buffoon that could only raise his voice. Nothing he said really mattered considering what we later find out about his character or the loyalty of his men. no the one who needs to pay attention is you. You are only scratching the surface Alexander's words. Kings aren't treated like normal people. Just shut up. Such understanding of the characters to the point you glorify rapists and outright tyrants. Amazing lack of comprehension ability. I said Kings aren't treated like normal people. And I said I don't approve of Artoria x Gilgamesh. You have zero understanding of how things work beyond normal daily interactions. It's your problem. Get educated. I know that Gilgamesh would mistreat her. I know he wants her at her strongest so that he can break her with his own two hands. But I also know that Saber is too powerful to let him have his way. I have faith in her. She is so regal, dignified, powerful to be possessed by anyone. In her own words, she is a king before she is a woman. You on the other hand want to rob her away from what makes her who she is for the sake of a trivial love story built on cringey modern standards that doesn't take how the world worked in the past in consideration. In short, you are too narrow-minded to be talking to me. Hell the reason why Saber created the Round Table was to be equal to her subjects. The idea that she had to discard her humanity and gender is what lead to her downfall. If Shirou was some OP badass you wouldnt care about the "love story". And you ignored everything I said about Shirou I see. His argument was the same as Iskandar; She shouldnt regret her kingship. The difference is that unlike Iskandar he recognized her ideal as a "pure and just" King that sacrifices herself for the people, unlike Rider who ridiculed her because her ways go against his own. And even Gilgamesh calls him out on that in the banquet. You have zero understanding of any of those 4 characters, the story or the "standards". It has nothing to do with morality. It is what they said and why. You shit on Shirou and Saber's development because you are too narrowminded to see beyond his age and powerlevel. You cant see that they are two similar people who sacrifice themselves for others, damaging themselves with no reward at the end. Being Kings or not is irrelevant. Saber is more than a King. You reduce a multifaced character to a single trait that was even badly represented in Zero. She was a normal girl that was "forced" to abandon everything to save a kingdom that couldnt be saved. She fought battles she didnt want to fight. She punished people she didnt want to punish. And because she tried to discard her humanity she ended up alone, killing her own knights and child. Like a human she has regrets and flaws that ruined her. She made mistakes as a human and she made mistakes as a woman. She has regrets that hold her back and that punish her. She is so much more than just a King(just like Gil is so much more than an arrogant King if you bother with his backstory). Hell no matter how extremely naive Zero made her look she still showed that she has regrets that hold her back. She IS a normal weak girl and she IS a King. She has ideals she must uphold and she has responsibilities. But she still has feelings like a normal human, she is happy when she sees others being happy and she has regrets when she fails. Iskandar trying to justify his greed and warmongery doesnt mean shit. He couldnt give a shit about the future of his kingdom and he didnt care how many would die for his own dream. That doesnt give him the right to scold Saber or ridicule her. Just like we have different standards now(not that it matters at all), so did their eras and their different culture. So tell me again, why would any of the bullshit he said matter. Like, holy fuck, grow up a little and see beyond a fucking romantic ship. And lol at that edit. People are mad that they are called out for being superficial as fuck. Oh no I will be blocked. Well that still doesnt change your lack of comprehension. |
ssjokgNov 14, 2021 1:42 PM
Nov 14, 2021 1:43 PM
#126
ssjokg said: Niveen_Sleem said: With the exception of Gil who isnt even a pure human, why would they be treated like anything else? Because Iskandar says so? Because you say so? Kings are humans and they rely on the people. No matter how much Iskandar tries to prove otherwise. He and many other Kings were brought down by "mere" humans. They are mortals with their own ideals. They just happen to have more political power. Iskandar being a megalomaniac doesnt mean shit.ssjokg said: Niveen_Sleem said: ssjokg said: Niveen_Sleem said: I don't approve of Artoria x Gilgamesh, but if I have to choose between him and Shirou, I would choose Gilgamesh without a second thought. While Gilgamesh sees her as a strong object he must possess, Shirou sees her as a normal, everyday, weak girl. For God's sake go love one of your classmates dude. She is way out of your league. This little love detour of yours disgusts me. She is not a normal girl and she is not an object. She is a knight and a king. Perhaps the one who looked at her with the most respect she deserved was Alexander. He was truly great. I loved this man. So in short both Shirou and Gilgamesh with drag her down, but Shirou will completely obliterate everything that is Saber. I believe Gilgamesh would still let her express her strength with him instead of wiping her completely like Shirou. Shirou and Alexander have almost the exact same views on her the difference is that Alexander was making fun of her rule and regrets while Shirou tells her that she did all she could and to take pride in it. How the hell is Shirou worse? And yes she is a normal girl. She is a normal girl that was forced because of a prophecy to become a King that everyone wanted but nobody liked. She forced herself to abandon her gender and even humanity for others but the end result was betrayal and total destruction. How the hell is the guy that respects her for the person she is first and her accomplishments as King worse than the guy that wants her as a trophy wife-sex toy and the guy that makes fun of her every choice and feelings? You all need to pay amore attention to what is going on instead of the age and powerlevel of the protagonist. Alexander was a buffoon that could only raise his voice. Nothing he said really mattered considering what we later find out about his character or the loyalty of his men. no the one who needs to pay attention is you. You are only scratching the surface Alexander's words. Kings aren't treated like normal people. Just shut up. Such understanding of the characters to the point you glorify rapists and outright tyrants. Amazing lack of comprehension ability. I said Kings aren't treated like normal people. And I said I don't approve of Artoria x Gilgamesh. You have zero understanding of how things work beyond normal daily interactions. It's your problem. Get educated. I know that Gilgamesh would mistreat her. I know he wants her at her strongest so that he can break her with his own two hands. But I also know that Saber is too powerful to let him have his way. I have faith in her. She is so regal, dignified, powerful to be possessed by anyone. In her own words, she is a king before she is a woman. You on the other hand want to rob her away from what makes her who she is for the sake of a trivial love story built on cringey modern standards that doesn't take how the world worked in the past in consideration. In short, you are too narrow-minded to be talking to me. Hell the reason why Saber created the Round Table was to be equal to her subjects. The idea that she had to discard her humanity and gender is what lead to her downfall. If Shirou was some OP badass you wouldnt care about the "love story". And you ignored everything I said about Shirou I see. His argument was the same as Iskandar; She shouldnt regret her kingship. The difference is that unlike Iskandar he recognized her ideal as a "pure and just" King that sacrifices herself for the people, unlike Rider who ridiculed her because her ways go against his own. And even Gilgamesh calls him out on that in the banquet. You have zero understanding of any of those 4 characters, the story or the "standards". It has nothing to do with morality. It is what they said and why. You shit on Shirou and Saber's development because you are too narrowminded to see beyond his age and powerlevel. You cant see that they are two similar people who sacrifice themselves for others, damaging themselves with no reward at the end. Being Kings or not is irrelevant. Saber is more than a King. You reduce a multifaced character to a single trait that was even badly represented in Zero. She was a normal girl that was "forced" to abandon everything to save a kingdom that couldnt be saved. She fought battles she didnt want to fight. She punished people she didnt want to punish. And because she tried to discard her humanity she ended up alone, killing her own knights and child. Like a human she has regrets and flaws that ruined her. She made mistakes as a human and she made mistakes as a woman. She has regrets that hold her back and that punish her. She is so much more than just a King(just like Gil is so much more than an arrogant King if you bother with his backstory). Hell no matter how extremely naive Zero made her look she still showed that she has regrets that hold her back. She IS a normal weak girl and she IS a King. She has ideals she must uphold and she has responsibilities. But she still has feelings like a normal human, she is happy when she sees others being happy and she has regrets when she fails. Iskandar trying to justify his greed and warmongery doesnt mean shit. He couldnt give a shit about the future of his kingdom and he didnt care how many would die for his own dream. That doesnt give him the right to scold Saber or ridicule her. Just like we have different standards now(not that it matters at all), so did their eras and their different culture. So tell me again, why would any of the bullshit he said matter. Like, holy fuck, grow up a little and see beyond a fucking romantic ship. I'm no even going to waste my time reading your bullshit. It's a block for you. Let the whole world witness your foolishness. |
If you are going to disagree with me, don't bother talking to me. I will seriously hurt you! |
Nov 14, 2021 1:44 PM
#127
Niveen_Sleem said: Didnt expect much from you anyways.ssjokg said: Niveen_Sleem said: ssjokg said: Niveen_Sleem said: ssjokg said: Niveen_Sleem said: I don't approve of Artoria x Gilgamesh, but if I have to choose between him and Shirou, I would choose Gilgamesh without a second thought. While Gilgamesh sees her as a strong object he must possess, Shirou sees her as a normal, everyday, weak girl. For God's sake go love one of your classmates dude. She is way out of your league. This little love detour of yours disgusts me. She is not a normal girl and she is not an object. She is a knight and a king. Perhaps the one who looked at her with the most respect she deserved was Alexander. He was truly great. I loved this man. So in short both Shirou and Gilgamesh with drag her down, but Shirou will completely obliterate everything that is Saber. I believe Gilgamesh would still let her express her strength with him instead of wiping her completely like Shirou. Shirou and Alexander have almost the exact same views on her the difference is that Alexander was making fun of her rule and regrets while Shirou tells her that she did all she could and to take pride in it. How the hell is Shirou worse? And yes she is a normal girl. She is a normal girl that was forced because of a prophecy to become a King that everyone wanted but nobody liked. She forced herself to abandon her gender and even humanity for others but the end result was betrayal and total destruction. How the hell is the guy that respects her for the person she is first and her accomplishments as King worse than the guy that wants her as a trophy wife-sex toy and the guy that makes fun of her every choice and feelings? You all need to pay amore attention to what is going on instead of the age and powerlevel of the protagonist. Alexander was a buffoon that could only raise his voice. Nothing he said really mattered considering what we later find out about his character or the loyalty of his men. no the one who needs to pay attention is you. You are only scratching the surface Alexander's words. Kings aren't treated like normal people. Just shut up. Such understanding of the characters to the point you glorify rapists and outright tyrants. Amazing lack of comprehension ability. I said Kings aren't treated like normal people. And I said I don't approve of Artoria x Gilgamesh. You have zero understanding of how things work beyond normal daily interactions. It's your problem. Get educated. I know that Gilgamesh would mistreat her. I know he wants her at her strongest so that he can break her with his own two hands. But I also know that Saber is too powerful to let him have his way. I have faith in her. She is so regal, dignified, powerful to be possessed by anyone. In her own words, she is a king before she is a woman. You on the other hand want to rob her away from what makes her who she is for the sake of a trivial love story built on cringey modern standards that doesn't take how the world worked in the past in consideration. In short, you are too narrow-minded to be talking to me. Hell the reason why Saber created the Round Table was to be equal to her subjects. The idea that she had to discard her humanity and gender is what lead to her downfall. If Shirou was some OP badass you wouldnt care about the "love story". And you ignored everything I said about Shirou I see. His argument was the same as Iskandar; She shouldnt regret her kingship. The difference is that unlike Iskandar he recognized her ideal as a "pure and just" King that sacrifices herself for the people, unlike Rider who ridiculed her because her ways go against his own. And even Gilgamesh calls him out on that in the banquet. You have zero understanding of any of those 4 characters, the story or the "standards". It has nothing to do with morality. It is what they said and why. You shit on Shirou and Saber's development because you are too narrowminded to see beyond his age and powerlevel. You cant see that they are two similar people who sacrifice themselves for others, damaging themselves with no reward at the end. Being Kings or not is irrelevant. Saber is more than a King. You reduce a multifaced character to a single trait that was even badly represented in Zero. She was a normal girl that was "forced" to abandon everything to save a kingdom that couldnt be saved. She fought battles she didnt want to fight. She punished people she didnt want to punish. And because she tried to discard her humanity she ended up alone, killing her own knights and child. Like a human she has regrets and flaws that ruined her. She made mistakes as a human and she made mistakes as a woman. She has regrets that hold her back and that punish her. She is so much more than just a King(just like Gil is so much more than an arrogant King if you bother with his backstory). Hell no matter how extremely naive Zero made her look she still showed that she has regrets that hold her back. She IS a normal weak girl and she IS a King. She has ideals she must uphold and she has responsibilities. But she still has feelings like a normal human, she is happy when she sees others being happy and she has regrets when she fails. Iskandar trying to justify his greed and warmongery doesnt mean shit. He couldnt give a shit about the future of his kingdom and he didnt care how many would die for his own dream. That doesnt give him the right to scold Saber or ridicule her. Just like we have different standards now(not that it matters at all), so did their eras and their different culture. So tell me again, why would any of the bullshit he said matter. Like, holy fuck, grow up a little and see beyond a fucking romantic ship. I'm no even going to waste my time reading your bullshit. It's a block for you. Let the whole world witness your foolishness. |
Jan 19, 2022 9:57 PM
#128
Apr 21, 2022 11:41 AM
#129
Apr 29, 2022 3:38 PM
#130
Oh no! Shirou died again! WHO WOULD'VE GUESSED His whole "I AM THE MAN, I FIGHT. YOU ARE THE WOMEN, WEAR A DRESS AND LOOK PRETTY FOR ME" thing makes me cringe so hard and then when he dies for like the 7th time it cracks me up as always. |
Embutido |
Jun 7, 2022 2:20 PM
#131
Rin's archer deserves so much credit lol or else Shirou couldve already died from berserker and he wouldnt even be here |
Jun 13, 2022 8:16 PM
#132
This is probably the first episode that I actually don't like. |
May 24, 2023 7:37 AM
#133
why did they censored the k!ss? shiro x saber are probably the most complicated "couple" i had ever seen in anime lol it's even strange that she "rejected" him after saying he's her clabber... finally shirou were able to produce something deadly. bu it seems his luck of his idiocy gonna end now lol |
Jul 24, 2023 11:59 AM
#134
O padre é o mestre do Lancer???? Mas aí é uma covardia, o juiz da guerra tá participando dela, aí é loucura. |
Aug 9, 2023 4:27 AM
#135
Lots going into this one - Enuma Elish beats excalibur :( - No way he has the very original sword in the stone? - Ayyy Shirou finally pulling out the Scabbard and using full-counter lmao - Premarital kissing. - That last scene was creepy as hell, and then its revealed that theres a bunch of bodies in the basement? Are they for Lancer? - Lancer is Kerei's? I guess i didn't think of the possibility that he can technically have two servants! |
Nov 18, 2023 3:46 AM
#136
I was expecting Shirou to finally lose his V-card, poor guy... |
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Sep 26, 2024 8:42 PM
#137
he laid that smooch on her hot and heavy just knew this priest dude was rotten to the core |
Dec 22, 2024 12:40 PM
#140
can't help but feel pity for Saber.Stuck between a brat and a bastard.And the romance placement feels dated and weird.Could have done better without it |
Jan 6, 5:12 PM
#141
Nah, the mc does not deserve Saber, here's a few reasons 1. He planned to use his last command seal to keep Saber from going back to her world, keeping her with him. 2. He "loves" her selfishly, and think that what he thinks is always right at their current relationship. He ignored all her warnings to not go against the enemy by himself to prove his love but it only hurt Saber seeing him injured. 3. They are always arguing with each other. If they do it before it get's serious, it's bound to happen again if it becomes into something. Now of course, having the main character getting killed may be what some of us want, but I think it's best for him to become smarter and more considerate of people and grow. Sadly its frickin Episode 21 and the only thing that changed is he got rid of his harem build up (for now), got stronger, and lets Saber kill other servants. We got no chance of bro changing who he is, we need to free Saber from bro. Oh and I have a theory as well, you see at the end where Bow staff man comes back and stabs the main character, it happens that the Game master (It was in the subtitles, I assume there's a different name but lets continue) , ordered him to attack our mc. So the question is why didn't he do it in the first place? Don't think too easy, it's not just that his weird "underground church" got exposed, he could have used his magic to conceal where it is so that the mc can't detect it like when he met him in the first place. Remember how in the last meeting with him, the Game Master told him to use the Holy Grail to keep Saber in the world. Wasting away this wish would guarantee the continuation of the Holy Grail Wars which is exactly what the Game Master wants. Though what seems to happen in the first part of this episode is that Saber lowkey rejected the main character, so this tends to influence the main character's thinking from forcing Saber to stay, to decide whether he should continue pursuing her or wish what is best for her. Having this risk can lead the main character to change his planned wish into having the Holy Grail War to be stopped. Now, coming from the title of "Game Master" , he obviously does not want the war to end but continue. so he has to do what he can to let it exist. If you remember from Episode 1 or 2 , he talks about how there has been a Game Master assigned for the last few wars to ensure that nothing goes too crazy. This leads me to question who assigned him and what happened in that war where things got too crazy. For now, my best bet is that the Game Master himself won that war wished to stay and "look over" the game. As the status of a former master he can still go and take any servant available and possibly get a second wish if he wins. Using the church to store mana, it almost guarantees him victory whenever he feels like it. Well, that's just a take on what's happening, it doesn't mean it's true. The plot twist at the end was crazy and im hyped for the next episode. |
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