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| Can't really blame Keiichi for getting mad at Shion for missing Rika's dance. Not gonna lie, seeing her dancing might be the only moment I have truly enjoyed from this adaptation so far. So... okay. Guess they just were twins after all. Some part of me was really wishing for it to be a personality disorder issue since I always find that kind of topics really intriguing but well. Overall, more eventful than previous episode. Seeing Keiichi getting knocked out by a fat-ass otaku sure was embarrassing but the intention of protecting Shion was there so I guess I should give him a bit of credit. |
| Things are about to get disgusting as when they get inside there, as long as Rika stop them there won't be any trouble. Looking forward to the next thing that's gonna happen. |
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| Another really good episode, more Shion and Mion are always welcome. Even though I already know what's inside the shrine, pairing up the scene with the ED was hype as shit. I am really enjoying Gou so much more after watching the original, though I haven't finished Kai yet. If ya'll have time I suggest you do the same, or the manga and VN though I haven't got to those myself. |
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| Oh wow, so they were actually twins, i thought Mion was trying to trick everyone. Mion is slowly becoming the best girl, and i still wonder why she carries a real gun with her all the time yet nobody notices it? what I was actually hoping that they were the same person but after this episode, i'm glad that Mion isn't Shion! Shion had some of those "creepy face" moments, and that last scene... I think i already know where this is going, Shion is planning to kill Keiichi, and Mion probably knew about that so that's why she wanted to save him at that last moment, but he decided to stay... What a cliffhanger that was! And that nurse, she's way too creepy! Not surprised that she and the photographer died last time lmao |
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| I see some rivalry with the twins Nice episode overall can't wait for the next |
| i kinda miss the super bolded lines of the cold answers mion and rena gave in the first episodes. this arc feels a bit more vanilla which is a bit weird. keiichi did good by giving mion the doll at the beginnng of it but i feel its all turning to shit because of him now. hes being played like a fiddle by this shion. i really hope it turns out different than the originals. i wanna see a divergent storyline. i want to see a happy mion. feel me? shion is atiny bit annoying. yes she may hve helpedkeiichi and deserved to be saved. but the way she forcibly sidelines mion makes me angry. not ok. lets toast to a happier mion towards these 2 episodes left in this arc. |
herrickluk said: random_weirdo said: Nah, those were actually omissions from the anime, but they're still in the source material :P Oh that’s interesting indeed. Can you clarify which part you meant by “omitted from the anime?” Are you saying that Interesting. As he said EVERYTHING this episode was from the VN, there's no differences. |
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| Shion becoming really friendly with Keichi. Well, it's indeed a gentleman of him to defend her from the creeps. funny, when Shion was a little upset when K1 wanted to watch Rika dance instead of coming with her. :D looking forward to next week! |
VelosBR said: ovy7 said: For some reason, Takano's design reminds me of , but I gotta say that she looks much younger lol ( ). (someone might have said this already) Don't No, it's |
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If you read what I said, you'd understand. I swear, this is why people hate talking to VN ppl — they assume you know everything, when it was never the case in the anime, and then they claim you miss 'obvious' info when it can be interpreted totally different to an anime-only viewer. |
Oh my bad, I had the feeling it was some lady from Umineko but choose the wrong one . In my defense I stopped watching the anime in order to read the manga lol. |
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herrickluk said: Bingo! I'm pretty outspoken about them too. Not all VN people are horrible, most are pretty decent guys. BUT there's that subset that are an all knowing experts on all matters. Next they'll be telling you how much better the VN is, they love that trick too. These episode threads are infested with a couple of really nasty ones.I swear, this is why people hate talking to VN ppl — they assume you know everything, when it was never the case in the anime, and then they claim you miss 'obvious' info when it can be interpreted totally different to an anime-only viewer. |
VelosBR said: Oh my bad, I had the feeling it was some lady from Umineko but choose the wrong one . In my defense I stopped watching the anime in order to read the manga lol. <Very Good!!!> If you don't have the time to read the VN (or don't like VNs), then the manga is the go-to for Umineko. It's probably the best possible adaptation the VN can get, infinitely better than the non-existent anime. Hope you are reading it from the start and not from where you left in the anime, as the latter has a ton of mistakes. And, if you don't plan on playing the VN, you should still give a listen to the OST as it's Godlike. Here are some of my fav songs: Anyway, have fun while reading Umineko, don't stop thinking, and welcome to Rokkenjima! |
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NoviSun said: Bingo! I'm pretty outspoken about them too. Not all VN people are horrible, most are pretty decent guys. BUT there's that subset that are an all knowing experts on all matters. Next they'll be telling you how much better the VN is, they love that trick too. These episode threads are infested with a couple of really nasty ones. +1 Glad to know I'm not the only one! |
herrickluk said: If you read what I said, you'd understand. I swear, this is why people hate talking to VN ppl — they assume you know everything, when it was never the case in the anime, and then they claim you miss 'obvious' info when it can be interpreted totally different to an anime-only viewer. Looks like my "obvious" made you angry, sorry about that. But it really is obvious for me. I didn't watch the old anime (just watched Onikakushi and some of Meakashi, didn't like it) so i don't know what did they cut from the VN. I just thought that the people who watched the old anime and know the full story will know the same things i know (and from this discussion and the previous ones, looks like that's not the case). |
Tsukumo_YuumaNov 6, 2020 2:14 AM
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Tsukumo_Yuuma said: Looks like my "obvious" made you angry, sorry about that. But it really is obvious for me. I didn't watch the old anime (just watched Onikakushi and some of Meakashi, didn't like it) So i just assumed that the people who watched the old anime and know the full story will know the same things i know (and from this discussion and the previous ones, looks like that's not the case). No harm done, don't worry! Though, I'd suggest next time to refrain from the 'obvious' stuff, especially if you haven't seen the OG anime fully, to avoid any misunderstanding. |
herrickluk said: NoviSun said: Bingo! I'm pretty outspoken about them too. Not all VN people are horrible, most are pretty decent guys. BUT there's that subset that are an all knowing experts on all matters. Next they'll be telling you how much better the VN is, they love that trick too. These episode threads are infested with a couple of really nasty ones. +1 Glad to know I'm not the only one! You should know that the one you agreeing with, last week, insulted me (kinda) because i told them that Mion was in middle school, they just kept saying MAL is right(x100) and when i presented proof from the VN and said anyone could edit MAL, they said "Strange how you didn’t fix MAL’s entry. . I try to keep my dog fed, to avoid problems like this." (i'm not 100% sure what did they mean by that but i *think* it's an insult? ) from my perspective, the old anime viewers are the ones ruining the anime for people, like here in MAL discussions you can't read 5 comments without spoilers (not hidden) in them, and if you said anything to them they would just say "it's sequel why are they here?" they make people drop this after insisting they can't watch this (i don't have a problem if that person will watch the old anime, but often they just drop the series and don't want to do anything with it because of the confusion) and now after what R07 said (the author) turned out to be true (the series can be watched by both old and new fans) they're complaining that there's nothing new and how is this a sequel if it'll just keep repeating everything again? (ofc i'm talking about some people not all) |
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| All I gotta say is. Shion just shion |
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| I don't think I heard any nipaas this episode sadly -0 But there is one omochikaeri~ -1 Nice episode overall. Good to see there is still a major difference between Mion and Shion appearance-wise. Also, interesting to see some people here surprised when they were 2 different people. It just gets more interesting... |
Tsukumo_Yuuma said: hahahahaha That dog is a bad one, always eating the homework. That's why I keep my dog fed. They're still in high school, hahahahaha You should know that the one you agreeing with, last week, insulted me (kinda) because i told them that Mion was in middle school, they just kept saying MAL is right(x100) and when i presented proof from the VN and said anyone could edit MAL, they said "Strange how you didn’t fix MAL’s entry. . I try to keep my dog fed, to avoid problems like this." (i'm not 100% sure what did they mean by that but i *think* it's an insult? ) from my perspective, the old anime viewers are the ones ruining the anime for people, like here in MAL discussions you can't read 5 comments without spoilers (not hidden) in them, and if you said anything to them they would just say "it's sequel why are they here?" they make people drop this after insisting they can't watch this (i don't have a problem if that person will watch the old anime, but often they just drop the series and don't want to do anything with it because of the confusion) and now after what R07 said (the author) turned out to be true (the series can be watched by both old and new fans) they're complaining that there's nothing new and how is this a sequel if it'll just keep repeating everything again? (ofc i'm talking about some people not all) |
NoviSun said: Tsukumo_Yuuma said: hahahahaha That dog is a bad one, always eating the homework. That's why I keep my dog fed. They're still in high school, hahahahaha You should know that the one you agreeing with, last week, insulted me (kinda) because i told them that Mion was in middle school, they just kept saying MAL is right(x100) and when i presented proof from the VN and said anyone could edit MAL, they said "Strange how you didn’t fix MAL’s entry. . I try to keep my dog fed, to avoid problems like this." (i'm not 100% sure what did they mean by that but i *think* it's an insult? ) from my perspective, the old anime viewers are the ones ruining the anime for people, like here in MAL discussions you can't read 5 comments without spoilers (not hidden) in them, and if you said anything to them they would just say "it's sequel why are they here?" they make people drop this after insisting they can't watch this (i don't have a problem if that person will watch the old anime, but often they just drop the series and don't want to do anything with it because of the confusion) and now after what R07 said (the author) turned out to be true (the series can be watched by both old and new fans) they're complaining that there's nothing new and how is this a sequel if it'll just keep repeating everything again? (ofc i'm talking about some people not all) Oh i got it know.... good joke..? (and you're still wrong but i'm not discussing that again) |
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Tsukumo_Yuuma said: You should know that the one you agreeing with, last week, insulted me (kinda) because i told them that Mion was in middle school, they just kept saying MAL is right(x100) and when i presented proof from the VN and said anyone could edit MAL, they said "Strange how you didn’t fix MAL’s entry. . I try to keep my dog fed, to avoid problems like this." (i'm not 100% sure what did they mean by that but i *think* it's an insult? ) from my perspective, the old anime viewers are the ones ruining the anime for people, like here in MAL discussions you can't read 5 comments without spoilers (not hidden) in them, and if you said anything to them they would just say "it's sequel why are they here?" they make people drop this after insisting they can't watch this (i don't have a problem if that person will watch the old anime, but often they just drop the series and don't want to do anything with it because of the confusion) and now after what R07 said (the author) turned out to be true (the series can be watched by both old and new fans) they're complaining that there's nothing new and how is this a sequel if it'll just keep repeating everything again? (ofc i'm talking about some people not all) I won't say anything about the discussion from last week concerning Mion's age, cause that was really silly & I honestly trust the VN more than MAL sooo... but I've noticed that you've been pretty harsh on the og anime fans from the very beginning and that doesn't sit right with me either. There was literally one(!) person in this discussion that complained about nothing new being shown, all the other old fans here didn't complain about that at all. Furthermore, recommending (which is what I've seen most people do instead of "forcing") newcomers to watch the old anime/read the VN or manga is not a bad thing at all. Most people complaining about Gou are actually newcomers, cause they think it's too predictable or boring or random/confusing, which is smth that's not true at all, if you know the VN or Deen adaption. I know there is some tension between the VN and og anime fans and you're completely right that the spoiler situation should've been handled way better from the beginning, but demonizing the Deen anime fans is just as bad as blaming everything on VN fans. And as I said, the most negative repsonses to this anime were from newcomers in my personal experience. I don't want to attack you by any means tho! You do have some valid points (like the spoiler situation), but I think you're kinda blaming the wrong group of people for"ruining the anime". That being said, NoviSun was really petty and mean to you, which is not okay. |
StormxNightmareNov 6, 2020 5:08 AM
There's no possible way you can steal my heart    I want to drown in this sweet Melancholy |
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StormxNightmare said: I won't say anything about the discussion from last week concerning Mion's age, cause that was really silly & I honestly trust the VN more than MAL sooo... but I've noticed that you've been pretty harsh on the og anime fans from the very beginning and that doesn't sit right with me either. There was literally one(!) person in this discussion that complained about nothing new being shown, all the other old fans here didn't complain about that at all. Furthermore, recommending (which is what I've seen most people do instead of "forcing") newcomers to watch the old anime/read the VN or manga is not a bad thing at all. Most people complaining about Gou are actually newcomers, cause they think it's too predictable or boring or random/confusing, which is smth that's not true at all, if you know the VN or Deen adaption. I know there is some tension between the VN and og anime fans and you're completely right that the spoiler situation should've been handled way better from the beginning, but demonizing the Deen anime fans is just as bad as blaming everything on VN fans. And as I said, the most negative repsonses to this anime were from newcomers in my personal experience. I don't want to attack you by any means tho! You do have some valid points (like the spoiler situation), but I think you're kinda blaming the wrong group of people for"ruining the anime". That being said, NoviSun was really petty and mean to you, which is not okay. Well yeah maybe i exaggerated a bit (because i'm really tired of talking to them i feel like a masochist torturing myself) but most VN readers i know like the new anime, and i didn't see any new fans complaining tbh (i don't read every comment here so maybe there's some idk), i even watch this anime with some of my friends who don't have the time to watch the old one or read the VN (we've college and stuff), and they're enjoying it very much. Through the episode discussions the only people i saw complaining that this anime won't be like deen's "masterpiece" are some old anime-only-s, i feel like the old anime gave them a wrong idea about the series or something because most of the complaints is that it feels weird or wrong, i really don't know but i don't have that feeling (the only feeling i have is that it's a little fast), tho there's a lot of them who doesn't spoil and understand the series very well (i think @ssjokg didn't read the VN and he always makes interesting comments/theories), so i'm not saying everyone is bad or anything, but that most of the annoying people i saw are old anime-only (ofc there's crazy VN people too, you'll find them on twitter). As i said in the other comment i don't have a problem with people going back to watch the old anime or read the VN, but often i see people dropping this because some anime fans make it seem like you CAN'T at all watch this, and many people doesn't have the time (i said several times we should just make it clear that it's better to go back to the old story but if you don't have the time just continue this, i just want more Higurashi fans lol). I think the best solution for the spoiler situation is if someone here made a separate discussion for the new people (anyone here not necessarily MAL mod or something). |
Tsukumo_YuumaNov 6, 2020 6:56 AM
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Tsukumo_Yuuma said: Well yeah maybe i exaggerated a bit (because i'm really tired of talking to them i feel like a masochist torturing myself) but most VN readers i know like the new anime, and i didn't see any new fans complaining tbh (i don't read every comment here so maybe there's some idk), i even watch this anime with some of my friends who don't have the time to watch the old one or read the VN (we've college and stuff), and they're enjoying it very much. Through the episode discussions the only people i saw complaining that this anime won't be like deen's "masterpiece" are some old anime-only-s, i feel like the old anime gave them a wrong idea about the series or something because most of the complaints is that it feels weird or wrong, i really don't know but i don't have that feeling (the only feeling i have is that it's a little fast), tho there's a lot of them who doesn't spoil and understand the series very well (i think @ssjokg didn't read the VN and he always makes interesting comments/theories), so i'm not saying everyone is bad or anything, but that most of the annoying people i saw are old anime-only (ofc there's crazy VN people too, you'll find them on twitter). As i said in the other comment i don't have a problem with people going back to watch the old anime or read the VN, but often i see people dropping this because some anime fans make it seem like you CAN'T at all watch this, and many people doesn't have the time (i said several times we should just make it clear that it's better to go back to the old story but if you don't have the time just continue this, i just want more Higurashi fans lol). I think the best solution for the spoiler situation is if someone here made a separate discussion for the new people (anyone here not necessarily MAL mod or something). Okay, I can agree with everything you've said here :) Thanks for taking your time and replying, I understand your point of view way better now. I have to admit that I don't get to see many reactions outside of MAL (so I can't comment on twitter or rl friends, cause my friends aren't into anime haha), which is why I had the impression that newcomers are especially harsh on this series. |
StormxNightmareNov 6, 2020 7:14 AM
There's no possible way you can steal my heart I want to drown in this sweet Melancholy |
| Adding to the discussion. I'm an old anime watcher, currently at Watanagashi at the VN, and I'm enjoying Gou. I wish I was way ahead on the VN, so I get all the references. Especially this one, which is confusing as hell in the Mion/Shion aspect, considering I'm reading and watching 2 different arcs at the same time in the same scenario, my mind is blowing. Gou had the potential to become much better than Deen's adaptation, some parts were a lot better, and I was really hyped until ep3, but that ep4 fight was awful. I'm not saying the hallucination itself, it started really good until Rena hits the head, but ended up on a bunch of repeated frames and unrealistic fightback that makes you question in an instant. I mean, the TV meta world was hint enough. When I've read (Is this japanese? I can't fucking read japanese!) seen the manga, I thought "THIS is what I wanted it to be like in the anime". Now I'm traumatized, I feel that every murder scene will be as awfully done as that one. Censorship sucks anyways, japanese doesn't seem to know what is content rating, but I'm talking about quality here. If I could read japanese and it was released at the same pace, I'd certainly read Gou's manga instead. I'll still see it, even though I can't read it. Even Rena's post uso da dialogue approach was done a lot better. The way she holds his face and stares him. Even the fear/paranoia is a lot more noticeable in the overall. You can barely notice when Keiichi is frightened in any anime scene. |
rafaelfserafimNov 6, 2020 8:12 AM
Tsukumo_Yuuma said: (i think @ssjokg didn't read the VN and he always makes interesting comments/theories) That's probably because I have read the VN of Umineko, and while the story is different there are many similarities. So story wise I dont really have an issue with Gou. Then again I think of myself as a pretty open minded person for stuff like this so Umineko's VN may be irrelevant. I can tell you tho that I wish that half of Rei, all of Kira, Outbreak and Umineko anime were just a fever dream. In Gou, production wise, some stuff irk me but they are very minor, like Ooishi's design,which I have to admit was a lot better in this episode, compared to his previous appearances. |
| This was a more lighthearted episode than i was originally expecting but, we still got to see some foreshadowings of the shit that will happen later. Dude, i really wonder what will be the outcome of this arc, the 2nd half of this episode was more similar to the 1st season but the differences in the overall development of this new season really keeps me entertained and looking forward to what will happen next and what will be different, i love that. Now the torture tools storage is up next, Watanagashi is up and running again, who will die, who will disappear, lets get the madness rolling! |
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| Was that a head tilt?!?!?! |
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| Glad to see more scenes from the VN! |
| Ok episode. It basically played out exactly the same as the DEEN adaptation. I hope that Passione doesn't try to squeeze this arc into 4 episodes like DEEN did. |
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| Well, what can I say, was waiting for that head tilt ._. Overall pretty good episode for what it was, liked it a lot more than the previous one. However as the episodes go by, the overusage of the "half-face" shots is starting to get jarring. I never really understood what they're supposed to convey for real, feels more like the basic shonen standard these days ("just to be X"), and man they're really using them too much. Also had a problem with Shion's voice for most of the episode. Until she met with Mion, the voice came off... weird, sounded kinda forced or something, can't really put my finger on it, just felt a bit off. In the scene with Mion & K1 tho, it felt a lot more natural. Wish there were more new content in this, as it is I'm starting to wish again they'd animate some completely new chapters from the PS versions or something. Hope they'd soon get into bussiness with this :s ovy7 said: Good choices. The Umineko OST sure was something, totally blew my expectations (not saying Higurashi had bad ost or anything but... yeah.)You should still give a listen to the OST as it's Godlike. Here are some of my fav songs: Anyway, have fun while reading Umineko, don't stop thinking, and welcome to Rokkenjima! Byniavo said: Pretty sure Passione is going to do exactly that. One guy was also showing some CD episode info somewhere around here, and guess that half-proves it out too.Ok episode. It basically played out exactly the same as the DEEN adaptation. I hope that Passione doesn't try to squeeze this arc into 4 episodes like DEEN did. |
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ovy7 said: VelosBR said: Oh my bad, I had the feeling it was some lady from Umineko but choose the wrong one . In my defense I stopped watching the anime in order to read the manga lol. <Very Good!!!> If you don't have the time to read the VN (or don't like VNs), then the manga is the go-to for Umineko. It's probably the best possible adaptation the VN can get, infinitely better than the non-existent anime. Hope you are reading it from the start and not from where you left in the anime, as the latter has a ton of mistakes. And, if you don't plan on playing the VN, you should still give a listen to the OST as it's Godlike. Here are some of my fav songs: Anyway, have fun while reading Umineko, don't stop thinking, and welcome to Rokkenjima! That's exactly the reason I picked up the manga lol. Yes sir! Picked it from the start. I'm reading episode 2 right now and from the 3 episodes I saw from the anime I can tell the pacing is much stronger in the manga, and not forgetting the brutal violent scenes, such an amazing artwork. Ah yes, some bangers to make me scared of seagulls and remote islands, just like I'm scared of cicadas and remote japanese villages, well, I never enjoyed going to beach so much... :) Thank you!! |
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why buy a creepy porcelain doll if they can buy a magic key of cardcaptor sakura? LOL (i have a tattoo of this design ^^) |
Thanks for the detailed explanation! If the one thing we can guarantee is that Gou likes to follow the OG S1 but add a twist to each arc, then what the glare hints at, would definitely fit. |
| Was a bit slow this week but it turned creepy at the end. As far as we are concerned the biggest change is still about who got the doll so I wonder how things play out next. |
| Not so relevant - and quite obvious. Since the way this arc will derail, she'll appear again soon enough. |
| Last week's episode was boring for me. But boring as in... the start of a new arc, several moments of deja vu from the old show, and overall a classic weak character introduction. But all redeemed in this episode, the otaku stuff was painful but the rest of the episode was interesting, and stuff will happen next week. Let's just hope it's not like Rena stabbing scene. |
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