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Jul 14, 2017 6:55 PM
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There are so many people claiming that if Neji chooses Lilina, the manga will deliver a terrible message: the government is always right. Here is my take on this:

1) Why do fictions have to necessarily deliver a "message", or "moral story"? Are authors not allowed just tell a story about people and how they live their lives naturally? You all hate it if the government tell you what to do, right? So why do you insist that fictions have to deliver your favorite moral message? Personally, I hate it when writers impose their own values on their works, at the expense of story and character development.

2) Even when Neji chooses Lilina at the end, it doesn't meant that the government is always right. What's about the government agent who had to give up on his true love? What's about his fiancee whom he hasn't talked to for 2 years and who is having an affair with a married man? What's about Misaki's divorced parents? The arranged marriage system has already been shown to have major flaws. That fact doesn't change even in the case Neji ends up with Lilina.

3) Have you ever considered that Neji might love Lilina from his heart and choose her out of his own free will? As of the current chapter, they figure out a way to annul their notice without consequence. It means that if Neji chooses Lilina at the end, it not because of the system, but because he loves her. It's true that the notice introduced them to each other, but it doesn't invalidate their feelings. There are countless factors affect your emotional lives, some of them are not under your control. You might fall for one person just because he/she happens to be by your side during the most difficult part of your life. Under a different circumstance, you might not develop that love. Doesn't mean your current love is not real or genuine.

4) If Neji loves Lilina more but decides to pick Misaki instead just to prove the system is wrong, then the manga will just deliver an equally terrible message: you should ignore your own feeling when it doesn't fit with your ideology. How is that different with the "government is always right" message? Both tell you to ignore your own feeling for something larger than yourself. In fact, if you go against your own feeling to not do as the government told, you are actually letting the government interfere with your life all the same.

My bottom line: we should not view the final outcome of this romance through the lenses of moral message, ideology, or whether the arranged marriage system is "right" or "wrong". Rather, we should focus on whether the characters can be honest to themselves and others, whether they can find the courage to follow their hearts, and whether they can find true love and achieve happiness. The characters themselves and their feelings are much more important than any moral messages.
Jul 14, 2017 9:00 PM
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Saki said:
At first I really liked Misaki for him, but as the story progressed I'm more towards Lilina, they're really adorable! And there's a reason why she was picked as his fiance right? :c


If you've read the story correct then you should know that Neji is an experiment to see who he will choose by the government and to see if true feelings can overcome all: True love (Misaki) or Forced/Destiny love (Lilina), i myself still lean towards Misaki Takasaki.
Jul 18, 2017 3:56 AM

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I personally like Lilina and Nisaka with Neji and wouldn't mind either route (I like Misaki too, but not really together with Nejima) But keeping the whole "going against the government thing" wouldn't it get even more interesting if he gets with Nisaka? I mean the government probably doesn't allow homosexual relationships at all and I think it would just lead to a heartbreaking story. I mean going with Misaki is one thing but with Nisaka it's taking it all the way to it's full potential. I understand I can't really speculate as much since I'm not caught up with the manga though.

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Jul 18, 2017 6:43 AM
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I want Yukari X Misaki....those who are saying i liked misake first but now i want Yukari X ririna...plz stop this bull sh*t .
1.do you know why do you like ririna ?...Because She supports Yukari's relationship with Misaki....that's why she is lovely and you should support her..by shipping
Yukari X Misaki...i would not want Yukari X Ririna just because they looks cute.( quit the bull sh*t ) i am serious here..and i want Yukari X Misaki who have loved each other for many years...Misaki is trying her hardest to stay away from Yukari .. SHE LOVES YUKARI SO MUCH...LIKE REALLY SO MUCH( and you all know it) ..but still she tries her best to stay away from him...and want to support Ririna X yukari..DO YOU EVEN KNOW HOW MUCH IT HURTS HER....I hope author will choose Yukari X Misaki.....

so Minna-san Understand my point and support Nejima X Misaki. <3 xD
Jul 18, 2017 7:25 AM
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From the beginning, it was Misaki, now at lastest chapter, it is still Misaki.

In my opinion, Lilina never truely loved him.

I'm not the type to condone switching your love for someone else while you're loving someone already, no matter what the context is.

I wish he is with Misaki at the end.
Jul 18, 2017 6:40 PM
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It seems to me he he will pick lillina because if he truly didn't love her he would not cry right there and also misaki is hiding something big and when we see it we may not see her in the same light.
Jul 19, 2017 12:16 AM

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Oulchura said:
From the beginning, it was Misaki, now at lastest chapter, it is still Misaki.

In my opinion, Lilina never truely loved him.

I'm not the type to condone switching your love for someone else while you're loving someone already, no matter what the context is.

I wish he is with Misaki at the end.
What makes you say Lilina never truly loved him? She seems to love him a lot. She's even tried giving up her love for him just because she thinks he'd be happier with Misaki. She's even willing to pretend that they don't get along, which must be heartbreaking for her, just so Nejima could be with Misaki. There is nothing that hints that she isn't in love with him. The manga itself even says that when you're truly in love, what you want most is for the one you love to be happy, and that's exactly what she's doing. Where the idea of Lilina not being in love with Nejima came from is beyond me.

The point of not condoning switching your love is really kind of simple-minded. What if the person you love doesn't love you back and gets together with someone else? Does that mean you should still love them for the rest of your life? What if you find somebody else that is better for you? Switching who you love is something that is entirely emotional, and if that happens with Nejima, so be it.
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Jul 19, 2017 3:02 AM
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Oulchura said:

The point of not condoning switching your love is really kind of simple-minded. What if the person you love doesn't love you back and gets together with someone else? Does that mean you should still love them for the rest of your life? What if you find somebody else that is better for you? Switching who you love is something that is entirely emotional, and if that happens with Nejima, so be it.


Oh I didn't explain myself clearly, I meant I don't condone it when you love someone and they love you back and then you go off and love someone else. Which is the case of Neji.
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Oh I didn't explain myself clearly, I meant I don't condone it when you love someone and they love you back and then you go off and love someone else. Which is the case of Neji.
Then that would just mean he fell out of love with her. Simple as that. Don't see anything wrong. Just because a relationship is between two people who loved each other, broke apart doesn't mean the one who broke it up is in the wrong. This is especially the case when you two were never in a formal relationship to begin with like in this case, or if the girl is pushing you away, like in this case.
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Jul 19, 2017 1:42 PM
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Nisaka and Neji should end up together fite me 😤😤 Misaki can go and fuck herself😤😤
Jul 20, 2017 5:53 PM
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Then that would just mean he fell out of love with her. Simple as that. Don't see anything wrong. Just because a relationship is between two people who loved each other, broke apart doesn't mean the one who broke it up is in the wrong. This is especially the case when you two were never in a formal relationship to begin with like in this case, or if the girl is pushing you away, like in this case.


They confessed with each other and kissed, which is formal enough. I couldn't bring myself to love someone else at this point no matter what rules there are and enforcement to bring upon.
Jul 21, 2017 2:56 AM
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i choose nejima x misaki, as romeo and juliet the reason is: what is said shu is true and what yajima say as an adult is also true "trust in your heart". and I think the government that makes the system just about lust is not about love, so does someone choose a determined partner or true love?

If the story is sacrifice of misaki love for nejima x lilina, I will be heartbroken because misaki suffers most more than lilina

Answer it in your heart :)
r3w1nJul 22, 2017 7:57 AM
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What if misaki was actually the one choosed by the system, and lilina is the person who he would rebel to love xD
Like, the government is doing experiment on the three of them and misaki is his real partner, and Lilina is the one he would rebel to love :>, cuz I feel like he started to fall for lilina more than misaki with the progress of the story,And by last chapters even though he decided to rebel but his mind thinking about lilina <3
Well from this it's obvious I'm with lilina xD
Jul 23, 2017 12:07 AM
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loli_a_ravioli said:
Both girls are really good, but i pick Misaki because she fits my type


I want Misaki to end up with Yukari because their love has been build up for years and would hate her sacrifice it all just for the happiness of both Yukari and Lilina. I don't dislike Lilina and all, but the point of the anime is that will a strong love overcome a government decision. This usually happens in the real world where couples nowadays have arranged marriage. If Lilina wins, it resents the whole point of the story. How can love exist if someone else already decided for you? Love should not be about deciding for others, it should be about your own decision on who you really love
Jul 23, 2017 12:20 AM
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r3w1n said:
i choose nejima x misaki, as romeo and juliet the reason is: what is said shu is true and what yajima say as an adult is also true "trust in your heart". and I think the government that makes the system just about lust is not about love, so does someone choose a determined partner or true love?

If the story is sacrifice of misaki love for nejima x lilina, I will be heartbroken because misaki suffers most more than lilina

Answer it in your heart :)


I like your comment. Love shouldn't be about scientifically proven, it should be pure and kind. Misaki already suffered right from the start when Yukari got his notice. She even thought she isn't the one for Yukari. And she's got the guts to fall in love with a sore loser like Yukari because its not whats on the outside look that matters, but how he showed concern for her. She has loved him, but like Yukari is also shy. I really wish they don't end up like Yajima who let go of his first love. Sorry, I don't remember her name though.
Jul 23, 2017 12:27 AM
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Oulchura said:
Then that would just mean he fell out of love with her. Simple as that. Don't see anything wrong. Just because a relationship is between two people who loved each other, broke apart doesn't mean the one who broke it up is in the wrong. This is especially the case when you two were never in a formal relationship to begin with like in this case, or if the girl is pushing you away, like in this case.


They confessed with each other and kissed, which is formal enough. I couldn't bring myself to love someone else at this point no matter what rules there are and enforcement to bring upon.


The reason she pushes Yukari away is because she wants to accept the fact that is not the one for Yukari. But even if she tried so hard to stay away from him, her heart won't forget him because even if they haven't gone into a relationship, their feelings are mutual. I never liked the fact that government based arrangements have been proven true. If Lilina gets Yukari, we accept the fact that the government wins because they said that their calculations are 100% accurate and attraction is 100% accurate. I don't want anyone to interfere with who I love. I want to love someone. Now that Yukari loves both girls, he must decide which is much more valuable, an arranged marriage that led to love or a first love that has been nurtured for years where their feelings are mutual.
Jul 23, 2017 12:30 AM
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Nisaka and Neji should end up together fite me 😤😤 Misaki can go and fuck herself😤😤


Dude, you're just being a jerk for saying that. I bet you would go straight up and love someone who is the same gender as yourself. Look into it and see how much Misaki is suffering, behind those smiles she is showing to people, hides tears knowing that she won't be with the loser who won her heart
Jul 23, 2017 12:35 AM
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AshuKuro said:
I want Yukari X Misaki....those who are saying i liked misake first but now i want Yukari X ririna...plz stop this bull sh*t .
1.do you know why do you like ririna ?...Because She supports Yukari's relationship with Misaki....that's why she is lovely and you should support her..by shipping
Yukari X Misaki...i would not want Yukari X Ririna just because they looks cute.( quit the bull sh*t ) i am serious here..and i want Yukari X Misaki who have loved each other for many years...Misaki is trying her hardest to stay away from Yukari .. SHE LOVES YUKARI SO MUCH...LIKE REALLY SO MUCH( and you all know it) ..but still she tries her best to stay away from him...and want to support Ririna X yukari..DO YOU EVEN KNOW HOW MUCH IT HURTS HER....I hope author will choose Yukari X Misaki.....

so Minna-san Understand my point and support Nejima X Misaki. <3 xD


AshuKuro is right. Misaki has already suffered from the start of the manga/anime. If Lilina gets the MC, we prove that whatever someone will say to us, it will be true for us. Remember, nothing can ever replace first love
Jul 23, 2017 12:39 AM
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At first I really liked Misaki for him, but as the story progressed I'm more towards Lilina, they're really adorable! And there's a reason why she was picked as his fiance right? :c


If you've read the story correct then you should know that Neji is an experiment to see who he will choose by the government and to see if true feelings can overcome all: True love (Misaki) or Forced/Destiny love (Lilina), i myself still lean towards Misaki Takasaki.


Which explains the cellphone notice that Misaki is his arranged marriage and suddenly comes representative of the Ministry giving a document saying that Lilina is his arranged marriage. Igarashi Shuu knows something. She hasn't fully told her whole story.
Jul 23, 2017 12:51 AM
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There are so many people claiming that if Neji chooses Lilina, the manga will deliver a terrible message: the government is always right. Here is my take on this:

1) Why do fictions have to necessarily deliver a "message", or "moral story"? Are authors not allowed just tell a story about people and how they live their lives naturally? You all hate it if the government tell you what to do, right? So why do you insist that fictions have to deliver your favorite moral message? Personally, I hate it when writers impose their own values on their works, at the expense of story and character development.

2) Even when Neji chooses Lilina at the end, it doesn't meant that the government is always right. What's about the government agent who had to give up on his true love? What's about his fiancee whom he hasn't talked to for 2 years and who is having an affair with a married man? What's about Misaki's divorced parents? The arranged marriage system has already been shown to have major flaws. That fact doesn't change even in the case Neji ends up with Lilina.

3) Have you ever considered that Neji might love Lilina from his heart and choose her out of his own free will? As of the current chapter, they figure out a way to annul their notice without consequence. It means that if Neji chooses Lilina at the end, it not because of the system, but because he loves her. It's true that the notice introduced them to each other, but it doesn't invalidate their feelings. There are countless factors affect your emotional lives, some of them are not under your control. You might fall for one person just because he/she happens to be by your side during the most difficult part of your life. Under a different circumstance, you might not develop that love. Doesn't mean your current love is not real or genuine.

4) If Neji loves Lilina more but decides to pick Misaki instead just to prove the system is wrong, then the manga will just deliver an equally terrible message: you should ignore your own feeling when it doesn't fit with your ideology. How is that different with the "government is always right" message? Both tell you to ignore your own feeling for something larger than yourself. In fact, if you go against your own feeling to not do as the government told, you are actually letting the government interfere with your life all the same.

My bottom line: we should not view the final outcome of this romance through the lenses of moral message, ideology, or whether the arranged marriage system is "right" or "wrong". Rather, we should focus on whether the characters can be honest to themselves and others, whether they can find the courage to follow their hearts, and whether they can find true love and achieve happiness. The characters themselves and their feelings are much more important than any moral messages.


You already said that the government notice has major flaws. The government said that Yukari Couples have 100% accuracy when it comes to compatability. I get that maybe YukariXLilina will win for sure, since manga is not finished. Think about it. Where will the struggles and challenges take place if they are too much compatible with each other. If he chooses Lilina, 100% that they won't mature as lover because they are too compatible. You miss the whole point of love.
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The problem with not choosing Misaki lies with two things, Nagima and the Government.

If Nagima chooses Lilina, then it would make him an @$$ to both girls. He already has confessed his love for Misaki (and she to him), but then go on his own to develop feelings for another girl. In this case Lilina. At this point, we can say that both Lilina and Misaki are too good for him now. His heart is in two places, and can we confidently claim that as love? Of course not. At this point he likes them both, but doesn't love either of them. He does know who he likes, but is doubting those feelings whilist trying to justify a new potential interest? Wtf author? If he doesn't like Misaki, then make it so, because at this rate Misaki is looking to be another Kosaki from Nisekoi. And we can all agree that the ending for Kosaki was pretty brutal/savage, depending on whether you were for her or not.

Now the government. Ah yes...they are all powerful and know what is best for you. You don't know what you are really feeling, because the government does! Yeah, I'm not buying that BS even if they have falling birth rates. If this is really about love, then the only logical and rational decision here is to not interfere with natrual love. Of course though, it's not to about love because the goverment doesn't factor that into their "areanged partners". These are serious problems for this manga. What is the author trying to achieve? I can only guess that he wants to rewrite Nisekoi with different characters and a different premise. And we all know how that ended.

I think he should end with Misaki, but I wouldn't be suprised if he really ends up with Lilina. If he ends with Lilina, it'll be a bland victory. Kinda tasteless because it would be too obvious. If he ends with Misaki, then I would honestly be surprised, but it'll also feel bland due to this being the only other option.

This is basically Nisekoi all over again.
Raku=Negima
Kosaki=Misaki
Chitoge=Lilina

Sigh, why are you rewriting Nisekoi author? Why?! Haven't we've endured enough!?!?
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I second this. Please don't make another Nisekoi ending where the first love loses.
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Pik3Rob said:


You're right. A person can't force themselves to feel a different way about people. Which isn't what any of the characters have done. Nejima never decided that he would just stop liking Misaki and start liking Lilina. But feelings do indeed change over the course of time, which is what is most likely happening at the moment with him. He's going after a different girl because his feelings have changed through his experiences being together with her. I see no problem with this. He's choosing Lilina because of his time together with her, more than because the government told them to be with each other. I don't see any problem as long as he fell in love with her in a more genuine way than "I was told to," which is exacctly what happened.


You just described Nisekoi. That's truly unfortunate, because I really did think that this manga would amount to something more meaningful. I guess I can now confidently say that Misaki never meant anything in this manga. She was just a secondary character who is disguised as a main character. Someone to throw under the bus in order to progress the plot. The Onodera treatment, except that Misaki never had a chance from the start, due to the government interference. The only candle that this manga would hold to Nisekoi is that this isn't a gag manga. It feels wrong that he is likely going to end up with Lilina when he should end up with Misaki. Negima would be happy with Lilina, but there will always be something wrong about the relationship under all the cuteness. It'll definately be genuine, but it'll also undoubtedly be twisted.


A Lilina X Yukari decision means they won't mature as lovers because they are too compatible with each other. If Yukari will choose Misaki, it proves that this is not another Nisekoi.
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I think he will choose Misaki anyway even if I like Lilina way more. Lilina is really cute and adorable but I can only imagine who he will choose.


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r3w1n said:
i choose nejima x misaki, as romeo and juliet the reason is: what is said shu is true and what yajima say as an adult is also true "trust in your heart". and I think the government that makes the system just about lust is not about love, so does someone choose a determined partner or true love?

If the story is sacrifice of misaki love for nejima x lilina, I will be heartbroken because misaki suffers most more than lilina

Answer it in your heart :)


I like your comment. Love shouldn't be about scientifically proven, it should be pure and kind. Misaki already suffered right from the start when Yukari got his notice. She even thought she isn't the one for Yukari. And she's got the guts to fall in love with a sore loser like Yukari because its not whats on the outside look that matters, but how he showed concern for her. She has loved him, but like Yukari is also shy. I really wish they don't end up like Yajima who let go of his first love. Sorry, I don't remember her name though.


That's right, I'm touched by the learning points of this story, we are invited to think with mind and heart as mc because we (male or female) should be able to act mature in choosing a partner, like in the real world when our parents choose our spouse and us Have someone we love and also be careful in choosing a life partner as in the Netsuzou Trap story

For nisaka, I do not really think about it because if nejima just loves it as a bestfriend, nothing will happen even if nisaka likes misaki and for lilina, if when kiss there is no mutual love (forced love) then the relationship to that limit is different with Its relationship to misaki (if possible le$bian x) )
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I would still want to know what Misaki is hiding. It is totally clear that her secret is about Yukari. This is just a what if, but if Yukari finds out that secret, I think it will be the turning point of the story. Sure he's now harboring feelings for Lilina, but I think that it will be like a Golden Time ending. I have guesses about her secret. One is maybe she is terminally ill, two is maybe she found out about the experiment everyone has been saying and three, maybe she wants to stop the annulment by talking to the head of the Yukari Engagements. But I am still going for a possibility that she will go away to her mother's just to stop Yukari and Lilina's plan of annulment. If that happens, it would really push Yukari and his feelings for Misaki will grow stornger because of that and go after her. But that is still a guess.
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r3w1n said:
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I like your comment. Love shouldn't be about scientifically proven, it should be pure and kind. Misaki already suffered right from the start when Yukari got his notice. She even thought she isn't the one for Yukari. And she's got the guts to fall in love with a sore loser like Yukari because its not whats on the outside look that matters, but how he showed concern for her. She has loved him, but like Yukari is also shy. I really wish they don't end up like Yajima who let go of his first love. Sorry, I don't remember her name though.


That's right, I'm touched by the learning points of this story, we are invited to think with mind and heart as mc because we (male or female) should be able to act mature in choosing a partner, like in the real world when our parents choose our spouse and us Have someone we love and also be careful in choosing a life partner as in the Netsuzou Trap story

For nisaka, I do not really think about it because if nejima just loves it as a bestfriend, nothing will happen even if nisaka likes misaki and for lilina, if when kiss there is no mutual love (forced love) then the relationship to that limit is different with Its relationship to misaki (if possible le$bian x) )


No possibility of a lesbian relationship, bro. Moving on to what I want to say, this is about whether true love prevails in the end, despite the struggles and challenges. This Yukari Couple thing is already a challenge whether he will give in to Lilina or still go and chase after Misaki, who still loves him.

But still, the one thing that I love about Misaki is that she loves Yukari in every detail despite the fact that she fallen in love with a sore loser.

I know that everyone wants a YukariXLilina ending, but I have seen all the Yukari Couples in the manga, they are too compatible with each other. They will never mature because of the compatability factor. So for those who say that choosing Misaki will lead to a miserable ending, they're wrong. Its the struggles and challenges that really test the love between two people. Thats the love they don't understand.
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well i ship nisaka x neji cuz i feel pity for nisaka
Jul 25, 2017 1:36 AM
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gonna copy/paste from my other post

the fact that misaki and nejima are dating already tells you ririna wins in the end. they aren't gonna cuck her throughout the manga. I almost wish they do, it would be ballsy from the author and less predictable.
With that said i don't really have a ship i'm backing, i like them all
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#TeamLilina for life, I used to like Misaki but Lilina is just better
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I'm really hating seeing Nisaka sad, so I'll go with the BL route as preference since I only want him to be happy;;; His expressions have melt my heart.

Otherwise, with Lili. I think Misaki has to overcome some things before she can freely love and be in a relationship. Plus, Neji + Lili have really good chemistry and theres love and mutual understanding. I mean, Neji really love's Misaki, but I dont think they fit as a couple, but more like a tragic teen romance.

Anyway, I only wan't to know whats going to happen with Nisaka, he's truly interesting. At leat, I hope he can properly confess and then move on, since Neji seems to be pretty straight.
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AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO SHIPS NEJIMA WITH RIRINA? RIRINA'S STILL THE BEST GIRL FOR ME even though she keeps on pushing Nejima and Misaki together. She doesn't get it yet but she's already inlove with Nejima. Don't get me wrong, I like Misaki's personality and her love for Nejima is real but I really think Nejima and Ririna suit each other well. She should have controlled her feelings for Nejima even though it's hard, she knew Nejima already has a fiancee and yet she still sticks with Nejima. Nejima won't actually know his feelings for Ririna unless he'll try to look at Ririna as his 'assigned partner' for real, and if he'll just keep on believing that he truly loves Misaki. I really think Misaki's assigned partner is Nisaka, and they would end up with each other so there's no way I would let Nejima end up with Misaka. Please end up with Riri, Neji!
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At first I really liked Misaki for him, but as the story progressed I'm more towards Lilina, they're really adorable! And there's a reason why she was picked as his fiance right? :c
RIRINA'S THE BEST GIRL!!!
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Nigma has already given his heart to Misaki, and may have many difficulties in their love, but I am sure that the marriage of Nigma and Misaki is inevitable to get the happiness he wants without a government guardian. Love is stronger than everything if it is purely for each other.
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노지마 씨는 이미 미사키 그들의 마음을 드리고 있고, 사랑에는 많은 어려움이 있을지도 모르지만, 노지마 씨와 미사키 씨의 결혼은 정부의 보호자없이 행복하게 필수적입니다. 만약 순수하게 서로의 것이라면, 사랑은 모든 더 강해집니다.
Jul 26, 2017 4:09 AM
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MISAKI....... FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
Jul 26, 2017 9:24 AM
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r3w1n said:


That's right, I'm touched by the learning points of this story, we are invited to think with mind and heart as mc because we (male or female) should be able to act mature in choosing a partner, like in the real world when our parents choose our spouse and us Have someone we love and also be careful in choosing a life partner as in the Netsuzou Trap story

For nisaka, I do not really think about it because if nejima just loves it as a bestfriend, nothing will happen even if nisaka likes misaki and for lilina, if when kiss there is no mutual love (forced love) then the relationship to that limit is different with Its relationship to misaki (if possible le$bian x) )


No possibility of a lesbian relationship, bro. Moving on to what I want to say, this is about whether true love prevails in the end, despite the struggles and challenges. This Yukari Couple thing is already a challenge whether he will give in to Lilina or still go and chase after Misaki, who still loves him.

But still, the one thing that I love about Misaki is that she loves Yukari in every detail despite the fact that she fallen in love with a sore loser.

I know that everyone wants a YukariXLilina ending, but I have seen all the Yukari Couples in the manga, they are too compatible with each other. They will never mature because of the compatability factor. So for those who say that choosing Misaki will lead to a miserable ending, they're wrong. Its the struggles and challenges that really test the love between two people. Thats the love they don't understand.
YouXMisaki said:
r3w1n said:


That's right, I'm touched by the learning points of this story, we are invited to think with mind and heart as mc because we (male or female) should be able to act mature in choosing a partner, like in the real world when our parents choose our spouse and us Have someone we love and also be careful in choosing a life partner as in the Netsuzou Trap story

For nisaka, I do not really think about it because if nejima just loves it as a bestfriend, nothing will happen even if nisaka likes misaki and for lilina, if when kiss there is no mutual love (forced love) then the relationship to that limit is different with Its relationship to misaki (if possible le$bian x) )


No possibility of a lesbian relationship, bro. Moving on to what I want to say, this is about whether true love prevails in the end, despite the struggles and challenges. This Yukari Couple thing is already a challenge whether he will give in to Lilina or still go and chase after Misaki, who still loves him.

But still, the one thing that I love about Misaki is that she loves Yukari in every detail despite the fact that she fallen in love with a sore loser.

I know that everyone wants a YukariXLilina ending, but I have seen all the Yukari Couples in the manga, they are too compatible with each other. They will never mature because of the compatability factor. So for those who say that choosing Misaki will lead to a miserable ending, they're wrong. Its the struggles and challenges that really test the love between two people. Thats the love they don't understand.


"(if possible...)" I'm just kidding, changing little of the story.. lol, i still choose yukari x misaki
Jul 26, 2017 11:36 AM

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I ship Neji and Nisaka with all my heart, but I know it's not going to happen so he should end up with Lilina.
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Lilina for sure. She was picked to be his wife for a reason i'm sure, but that being said i don't mind Misaki. Just prefer lilina.
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To be honest, although there are clear comparations with Nisekoi in the structure fortunately i have different feelings reading this manga. Nisekoi was a comedy with too much unuseful side stories that ended up pissing me off. This is a drama with an interesting beginning (it´s true that it's not original and we have seen similar starts in other stories) and surprisingly deeper characters. All the secondary roles have a logical support for the plot, from the workers of the ministry to the brother of Nisaka are important in all the author is trying to tell. The main characters have doubts, have to grow up and have to learn to understand themselves and each others with all the mistakes and lies that can appear in the way.

I ship Liliana because I think that in life you can have both. A childhood pure real love based on a mixture of admiration and attraction like the one that Nejima and Misaki have (that's why i like they have the opportunitie of start an maybe end their story with no regrets in the future, saving great happy memories) and following that it's possible to fall in love with the same passion and pureness although it's not the first time. Two different moments in the road. I would like Nejima and Liliana could have this story at the end of the manga. Liliana is a great character constantly growing emotionally. Misaki is interesting and there is a shadow about what she is hiding but i think they wouldn't be happy their entire life (contrary to Motoi and his coworker...i have yet hopes for them and their "first love")

I love your analysis @youdontknowwho , totally agree with all the points.

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I get the feeling that the ones deciding is not Neji, but the two girls

I mean, look at how things progress
he went with Lilina coz Misaki pushes him,
and he went back to Misaki coz Lilina pushes him back

all things considered, I like Raku better since he can make a decision in the end
a decision to hurt someone you love

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BL all the way for me :>
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Misaki. She is madly in love with MC. She confessed (without any stupid waiting drama). She is ready to sacrifice her happiness if it is necessery to help Mc achieve his dream (studies).

Lilina on the other hand. She did nothing. Mc is her first real friend. He helped her to connect with other people. Does she even love him? Or she mistakes friendship with love?
People symphatize with Lilina because she is (was) social outcast. Always alone. Poor her.

If Mc chooses Lilina what is motto of the story? Government is always right. Absurd.
What if government deliberately swapped partners and Mc still chooses Lilina? Government can enforce any relationship that they want. Absurd.

I'm sure this will end with the most obvious and cliche pairing Lilina x Nejima. Well people loves cliche (Nisekoi is one huge cliche and people loves it).
I hope Misaki will have happy ending. Nisaka would be much better option for her but this is not very likely because of obvious reasons.


I totaly agree with you. If neji ends with lilina the motto of the story would be awfull :(
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I think it'd be a lot more original for Lilina to win. Typically stories like this would tell us the generic moral of "Love isn't something that can be determined by science" or something like that. But the series itself saying that it can would be original, but not necessarily wrong. Considering how much effort the government puts into finding perfect matches, and how from the looks of it, those who are paired actually do look like perfect matches, it seems that the system seemingly works. Like I've said in a previous comment on here, Koi to Uso has never been about saying that your perfect partner can't be chosen for you by the system. It's about how it affects their society. It's not right for people to want Misaki to win mainly because they want the system proven wrong, because that's completely ignoring the feelings of the characters for sake of seeing "moral righteousness" enacted.
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Everybody seems entitled to misaki and neji, sure if he ended up with somebody assigned to him it'd mean the government is right, but even so; the stereotypical, I love her, childhood friend, and Romeo & Juliet-esc plot is boring as hell. That's like any other romance, they're not allowed to be with each other but they are. The fact that if Lilina was who he ended up with would go against common sense, reasoning, feelings and judgement. That's interesting to me. Misaki x Neji seems to just be them attracted to each other physically all they do is kiss or hold hands or something else. To me that isn't love, they say they love such other, but do they really? That's an odd way to show love, sexually. Lilina is a better person in my opinion. Misaki was willing to give up on the person she loved, and Neji was willing to give up on Lilina and is inconsiderate of her feelings. They're selfish. Lilina seemed to just want them happy, so she gave up on falling for her spouse which will still happen, probably. I think if the author goes with the "They're meant for each other", "Love at first sight" trope is lame. It'll be like most romance that have this type of story. Idk, maybe that's just me. If I were to determine who was "Love" and who was "lie", then I'd say lilina is love and misaki is lie. The Neji x Misaki ship is so plain. It's as if it's perfect and such. That's way too good to be true, I truly hope the manga doesn't end that way. Whereas, Lilina is earnest,kind, unselfish, she's great, but she has flaws too, Neji views Misaki as some special goddess. I'd say, the only reason he furthered his interest in Misaki, was because she was also "In love" with him. If she hadn't been interested, he'd stop right there and settle,is what I think. That to me, isn't love, it's self indulgence. Deceit.
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Everybody seems entitled to misaki and neji, sure if he ended up with somebody assigned to him it'd mean the government is right, but even so; the stereotypical, I love her, childhood friend, and Romeo & Juliet-esc plot is boring as hell. That's like any other romance, they're not allowed to be with each other but they are. The fact that if Lilina was who he ended up with would go against common sense, reasoning, feelings and judgement. That's interesting to me. Misaki x Neji seems to just be them attracted to each other physically all they do is kiss or hold hands or something else. To me that isn't love, they say they love such other, but do they really? That's an odd way to show love, sexually. Lilina is a better person in my opinion. Misaki was willing to give up on the person she loved, and Neji was willing to give up on Lilina and is inconsiderate of her feelings. They're selfish. Lilina seemed to just want them happy, so she gave up on falling for her spouse which will still happen, probably. I think if the author goes with the "They're meant for each other", "Love at first sight" trope is lame. It'll be like most romance that have this type of story. Idk, maybe that's just me. If I were to determine who was "Love" and who was "lie", then I'd say lilina is love and misaki is lie. The Neji x Misaki ship is so plain. It's as if it's perfect and such. That's way too good to be true, I truly hope the manga doesn't end that way. Whereas, Lilina is earnest,kind, unselfish, she's great, but she has flaws too, Neji views Misaki as some special goddess. I'd say, the only reason he furthered his interest in Misaki, was because she was also "In love" with him. If she hadn't been interested, he'd stop right there and settle,is what I think. That to me, isn't love, it's self indulgence. Deceit.


Here is what I believe.

I completely disagree with your reasoning. What you say is that Lilina, whom Neji has been forced to be together with is "love" while saying that Misaki, with whom he fell in love with naturally and whom he confessed to all by himself is a "lie".

No matter how cute or great Lilina is, Neji x Misaki is the only pairing that actually came into existense naturally with no government involvement, and it represents democracy and freedom, while Neji x Lilina represents repression and authoritarianism.
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In all honestly, I don't mind who Neji ends up with because Lili, Misaki, and Nisaka are all good people. However, I do favor Lili and Nisaka for their personalities. I get how some people are saying that it would be obvious for Neji to end up with Misaki because it fulfills the moral of the story, which is claimed to be: "the government knows what is best for you."

However, I think that this is just a surface-level speculation. I don't think that the author is conservative at all. My belief is that the author is trying to make it a point that it is one's duty to find their true love and do what is best for them. This whole arranged marriage bullshit is just so that this message can come into play/be practiced by the story's characters.

Thoroughly investigate the story. Regardless of Nejima's love for Misaki or Lili, he is doing what he wants. Even though the government did assign Lili to him, it is still his choice to accept her or not. And, I think that Neji loving Lili, despite already having a first love, is an even more powerful message; people can change. Nothing is permanent. Love is ever-lasting, yet frail; you feel like you can stay with a person forever because that is how you feel in the moment, but when the moment is over, scenes change. This is the lie in Koi to Uso.

That is the message that I think the author was trying to convey to us. So, I'm assuming that his purpose was to trigger readers to truly treasure the moments they have and make decisions that they won't regret by living a life that they want to live, not dictated by anyone (parents, friends, government, jobs, etc.). Because once you live a life full of regret, you're condemned to live a life in hell.

Back to the original question, here is my proper answer: I hope that Neji ends up with someone that he truly happy with. The best kind of ending is one where he and his lover will not reconsider their decisions.

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I think it'd be a lot more original for Lilina to win. Typically stories like this would tell us the generic moral of "Love isn't something that can be determined by science" or something like that. But the series itself saying that it can would be original, but not necessarily wrong. Considering how much effort the government puts into finding perfect matches, and how from the looks of it, those who are paired actually do look like perfect matches, it seems that the system seemingly works. Like I've said in a previous comment on here, Koi to Uso has never been about saying that your perfect partner can't be chosen for you by the system. It's about how it affects their society. It's not right for people to want Misaki to win mainly because they want the system proven wrong, because that's completely ignoring the feelings of the characters for sake of seeing "moral righteousness" enacted.


Bruh. thank you for being born holy shit. i totally agree.
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There are so many people claiming that if Neji chooses Lilina, the manga will deliver a terrible message: the government is always right. Here is my take on this:

1) Why do fictions have to necessarily deliver a "message", or "moral story"? Are authors not allowed just tell a story about people and how they live their lives naturally? You all hate it if the government tell you what to do, right? So why do you insist that fictions have to deliver your favorite moral message? Personally, I hate it when writers impose their own values on their works, at the expense of story and character development.

2) Even when Neji chooses Lilina at the end, it doesn't meant that the government is always right. What's about the government agent who had to give up on his true love? What's about his fiancee whom he hasn't talked to for 2 years and who is having an affair with a married man? What's about Misaki's divorced parents? The arranged marriage system has already been shown to have major flaws. That fact doesn't change even in the case Neji ends up with Lilina.

3) Have you ever considered that Neji might love Lilina from his heart and choose her out of his own free will? As of the current chapter, they figure out a way to annul their notice without consequence. It means that if Neji chooses Lilina at the end, it not because of the system, but because he loves her. It's true that the notice introduced them to each other, but it doesn't invalidate their feelings. There are countless factors affect your emotional lives, some of them are not under your control. You might fall for one person just because he/she happens to be by your side during the most difficult part of your life. Under a different circumstance, you might not develop that love. Doesn't mean your current love is not real or genuine.

4) If Neji loves Lilina more but decides to pick Misaki instead just to prove the system is wrong, then the manga will just deliver an equally terrible message: you should ignore your own feeling when it doesn't fit with your ideology. How is that different with the "government is always right" message? Both tell you to ignore your own feeling for something larger than yourself. In fact, if you go against your own feeling to not do as the government told, you are actually letting the government interfere with your life all the same.

My bottom line: we should not view the final outcome of this romance through the lenses of moral message, ideology, or whether the arranged marriage system is "right" or "wrong". Rather, we should focus on whether the characters can be honest to themselves and others, whether they can find the courage to follow their hearts, and whether they can find true love and achieve happiness. The characters themselves and their feelings are much more important than any moral messages.


HOLY FUCK I WROTE A POST SIMILAR TO THIS WITHOUT SEEING YOUR POST. I DIDN'T EVEN NEED TO POST BC THIS SUMS IT ALL UP !!!! FUCK !!!!
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In all honestly, I don't mind who Neji ends up with because Lili, Misaki, and Nisaka are all good people. However, I do favor Lili and Nisaka for their personalities. I get how some people are saying that it would be obvious for Neji to end up with Misaki because it fulfills the moral of the story, which is claimed to be: "the government knows what is best for you."

However, I think that this is just a surface-level speculation. I don't think that the author is conservative at all. My belief is that the author is trying to make it a point that it is one's duty to find their true love and do what is best for them. This whole arranged marriage bullshit is just so that this message can come into play/be practiced by the story's characters.

Thoroughly investigate the story. Regardless of Nejima's love for Misaki or Lili, he is doing what he wants. Even though the government did assign Lili to him, it is still his choice to accept her or not. And, I think that Neji loving Lili, despite already having a first love, is an even more powerful message; people can change. Nothing is permanent. Love is ever-lasting, yet frail; you feel like you can stay with a person forever because that is how you feel in the moment, but when the moment is over, scenes change. This is the lie in Koi to Uso.

That is the message that I think the author was trying to convey to us. So, I'm assuming that his purpose was to trigger readers to truly treasure the moments they have and make decisions that they won't regret by living a life that they want to live, not dictated by anyone (parents, friends, government, jobs, etc.). Because once you live a life full of regret, you're condemned to live a life in hell.

Back to the original question, here is my proper answer: I hope that Neji ends up with someone that he truly happy with. The best kind of ending is one where he and his lover will not reconsider their decisions.

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I completely agree. I think a lot of people don't realize the moral is about finding true love not providing the government is wrong.
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oppailover666 said:
In all honestly, I don't mind who Neji ends up with because Lili, Misaki, and Nisaka are all good people. However, I do favor Lili and Nisaka for their personalities. I get how some people are saying that it would be obvious for Neji to end up with Misaki because it fulfills the moral of the story, which is claimed to be: "the government knows what is best for you."

However, I think that this is just a surface-level speculation. I don't think that the author is conservative at all. My belief is that the author is trying to make it a point that it is one's duty to find their true love and do what is best for them. This whole arranged marriage bullshit is just so that this message can come into play/be practiced by the story's characters.

Thoroughly investigate the story. Regardless of Nejima's love for Misaki or Lili, he is doing what he wants. Even though the government did assign Lili to him, it is still his choice to accept her or not. And, I think that Neji loving Lili, despite already having a first love, is an even more powerful message; people can change. Nothing is permanent. Love is ever-lasting, yet frail; you feel like you can stay with a person forever because that is how you feel in the moment, but when the moment is over, scenes change. This is the lie in Koi to Uso.

That is the message that I think the author was trying to convey to us. So, I'm assuming that his purpose was to trigger readers to truly treasure the moments they have and make decisions that they won't regret by living a life that they want to live, not dictated by anyone (parents, friends, government, jobs, etc.). Because once you live a life full of regret, you're condemned to live a life in hell.

Back to the original question, here is my proper answer: I hope that Neji ends up with someone that he truly happy with. The best kind of ending is one where he and his lover will not reconsider their decisions.

(buT mIGhT i JuST aDD thAT IM A HUGE FAN OF YAOI SO IM REALLY GAME FOR NISAKAxNEJI AHHHHHH. ALSO I WAS SO DAMN MAD WHEN SOMEONE TOOK YAOILOVER666 USERNAME THO OMG IM SO SHOOK.)


Nonsense, Nejima cannot do what he wants at all. If he chooses Misaki, the government will make him miserable for the rest of his life. The question is if he has the guts to go through with it.
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