Date A Live (light novel)
| I still had some hope, but it was dashed when I saw the name Geektoys. This has no chance of getting well. The S4 was already a disaster. It was heavily censored, the characters often lacked emotions and the cg was ridiculous. This S5 has more battles, more blood and more despair, that is, more things that this studio doesn't know how to do right. Not to mention, this studio is currently involved in many anime. |
| First time no studio change and we are stuck with this awful studio. :< |
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| 10 years of build up and foreshadowing leading to one of the best ln arcs/finals ever. Makes you want to rewatch the series from episode 1. Teaser visual already looks incredible. I do hope they take their time and do 2-3 lns rather than rush 4 into it. Which I don't see happening based on the pv and teaser visual. |
RoyalDemon05 said: Piromysl said: it's better than JC stuff who wanted to death sentence to this series , if you don't anime studio then don't watch next season, don't spread negativity here where fans are already looking forward next seasonFirst time no studio change and we are stuck with this awful studio. :< There is no need to get emotional. |
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RoyalDemon05 said: Same goes to spreading negativity here if you don't like just don't watch it where you have already watched 46 episodes + 2 OVAs of this season.. If you don't like my comment, you may just not respond to it. |
PiromyslApr 5, 2023 4:45 AM
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MaouHero said: I still had some hope, but it was dashed when I saw the name Geektoys. This has no chance of getting well. The S4 was already a disaster. It was heavily censored, the characters often lacked emotions and the cg was ridiculous. This S5 has more battles, more blood and more despair, that is, more things that this studio doesn't know how to do right. Not to mention, this studio is currently involved in many anime. Mayuri, Season 2 and 3 visuals and teasers were not good. I own all the blu rays and the difference between geeks toys and ims/jc is huge. The old director, studio and staff weren't taking their job seriously and dragging Tsunako and Tachibana's reputation through the mud. Dal has had the roughest production cycle out of any light novel series. It managed to get far thanks to fan support. So geek toys and the new director is doing the series justice. Especially since the next arc is one of the best in the ln genre. Yes I have plenty of proof of differences and will post when I get home. |
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RoyalDemon05 said: MaouHero said: if you don't like it then don't watch it, I didn't expect season 4 after damage they have done in season 3 by JC staff if you don't have any good expectations on next season of date a live , then don't complain here in this forum this key visual is 100% times better than season 3 laziness key visual with copy paste Pikachu face , Nastumi put as villain background which already foreshadowed the disaster,this key visual has already showing good sign of adaptationI still had some hope, but it was dashed when I saw the name Geektoys. This has no chance of getting well. The S4 was already a disaster. It was heavily censored, the characters often lacked emotions and the cg was ridiculous. This S5 has more battles, more blood and more despair, that is, more things that this studio doesn't know how to do right. Not to mention, this studio is currently involved in many anime. I won't. But at least I want people to know that Date a Live is not the disaster this studio makes it out to be. Being better than the S3 isn't too hard, but that doesn't make the S4 any good. At S4 the girls wore the complete astral dress, not even the most basic thing was done right. Avnesh_Jain___ said: MaouHero said: I still had some hope, but it was dashed when I saw the name Geektoys. This has no chance of getting well. The S4 was already a disaster. It was heavily censored, the characters often lacked emotions and the cg was ridiculous. This S5 has more battles, more blood and more despair, that is, more things that this studio doesn't know how to do right. Not to mention, this studio is currently involved in many anime. same opinion here If there is still any hope, it is to change the director. This season's Geektoys anime got a director who understands animation. But as things stand, they'll probably stay the same. |
MaouHero said: I still had some hope, but it was dashed when I saw the name Geektoys. This has no chance of getting well. The S4 was already a disaster. It was heavily censored, the characters often lacked emotions and the cg was ridiculous. This S5 has more battles, more blood and more despair, that is, more things that this studio doesn't know how to do right. Not to mention, this studio is currently involved in many anime. To be honest, S4 was somewhat good only because it was almost entirely about Kurumi, who is objectively the best character and overall best thing about this show. Without her this series would be generic and easily forgettable trash. Even GEEKTOYS' incompetence did not managed to counter Kurumi's greatness, though they tried hard. |
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RoyalDemon05 said: Piromysl said: it was funny, they censorship every girls except kruimi tokikai they gave 4 episodes in 1 volume,more screen time than usual, lots of kurumi fan service and krurimi uncensored scene, Geektoy studio gave special treatment for one character even JC staff, where krurimi dress was better shape compare to others girls like Tokha vs Origimi fight sceneTo be honest, S4 was somewhat good only because it was almost entirely about Kurumi, who is objectively the best character and overall best thing about this show. Without her this series would be generic and easily forgettable trash. Even GEEKTOYS' incompetence did not managed to counter Kurumi's greatness, though they tried hard. Because Kurumi carries the show all by herself and now has sore back. And they know it. Remove Kurumi and this franchise is dead. |
PiromyslApr 5, 2023 5:10 AM
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icefirestone23 said: MaouHero said: I still had some hope, but it was dashed when I saw the name Geektoys. This has no chance of getting well. The S4 was already a disaster. It was heavily censored, the characters often lacked emotions and the cg was ridiculous. This S5 has more battles, more blood and more despair, that is, more things that this studio doesn't know how to do right. Not to mention, this studio is currently involved in many anime. Mayuri, Season 2 and 3 visuals and teasers were not good. I own all the blu rays and the difference between geeks toys and ims/jc is huge. The old director, studio and staff weren't taking their job seriously and dragging Tsunako and Tachibana's reputation through the mud. Dal has had the roughest production cycle out of any light novel series. It managed to get far thanks to fan support. So geek toys and the new director is doing the series justice. Especially since the next arc is one of the best in the ln genre. Yes I have plenty of proof of differences and will post when I get home. There's no comparison. The S1 and S2 animation are much better, the direction as well. The S4 has no emotion, whether in the tense or fight scenes, it's all bland. piromisel said: MaouHero said: I still had some hope, but it was dashed when I saw the name Geektoys. This has no chance of getting well. The S4 was already a disaster. It was heavily censored, the characters often lacked emotions and the cg was ridiculous. This S5 has more battles, more blood and more despair, that is, more things that this studio doesn't know how to do right. Not to mention, this studio is currently involved in many anime. To be honest, S4 was somewhat good only because it was almost entirely about Kurumi, who is objectively the best character and overall best thing about this show. Without her this series would be generic and easily forgettable trash. Even GEEKTOYS' incompetence did not managed to counter Kurumi's greatness, though they tried hard. You don't know DaL then, because it's far from generic and Kurimi isn't the best. |
| The teaser looks fiiiireeeee |
Ninjanime said: More like final TV season well unless they get to a certain characters age reveal or further in, otherwise it will get a movie to finish it off unless it really flops in both the disc and merch department.This is definitely gonna be the final season. Crazy since this will be one of the first Anime I've been following that I'm going to get to see the ending of. Next would be AOT & MHA. Honestly if Production IMS didn't go bankrupt S2 had the best animation. J.C.Staff I love them as a studio but they could have handled the end of that season better. Geek Toys animation isn't as nice but consistency is good I suppose. |
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Ninjanime said: This is definitely gonna be the final season. Crazy since this will be one of the first Anime I've been following that I'm going to get to see the ending of. Next would be AOT & MHA. Honestly if Production IMS didn't go bankrupt S2 had the best animation. J.C.Staff I love them as a studio but they could have handled the end of that season better. Geek Toys animation isn't as nice but consistency is good I suppose. It won't be the final season. Dal already has more figs than konosuba, overlord, tensura, and dal will get much more merch now they announced a 10th anniversary. The series could be even more popular if it wasnt for the troubled production cycle. The company Fujimi Shobo would go bankrupt without Dal since it is by far their most successful series. Geektoys managed to sell 2k discs per volume off dal iv They cannot cram 6 lns into one cour. They struggled to cram 4 for season 4. They should do double cour for vol 17-20 and movie for the rest. If far less successful series like devil is part timer and another world with my smartphone are getting more season, dal can easily get more than this. |
MaouHero said: IMS had pretty horrendous visualsThere's no comparison. The S1 and S2 animation are much better, the direction as well. The S4 has no emotion, whether in the tense or fight scenes, it's all bland. https://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire4/e2ce494d4542567d2169c4395411241d1448256223_full.jpg https://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire1/72923043282b8eee47806320c8b739251448256752_full.jpg vs Geek Toys https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=312391143644384&set=pcb.312391833644315 https://somoskudasai.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/xwzoqVPB_2x.jpg Season 1 was okay. IMS (Season 2) was just AIC Plus+ staff. But the same director was pretty much doing 1-3 and quality heavily dropped. The old staff and studio probably didn't expect the series to be one of the biggest ln franchises and still treated the series like a low budget adult video thus dragging down Tsunako and Tachibana's name. Which is why the franchise struggled to get new people after 2015 especially when overlord, danmachi, re zero, konosuba, tensura came out. Sure the old anime feels nostalgic but the franchise is much bigger now and has to compete with other shows. |
| Can't wait, one of my most favorite anime getting more is nice. "Because Kurumi carries the show all by herself and now has sore back. And they know it. Remove Kurumi and this franchise is dead." This isn't true at all, all of the characters and their stories are good. I like Kurumi, but this is just taking character favoritism to the maximum. |
| "Well, she's flatter than a pancake" -Mimi Alpacas |
icefirestone23 said: MaouHero said: IMS had pretty horrendous visualsThere's no comparison. The S1 and S2 animation are much better, the direction as well. The S4 has no emotion, whether in the tense or fight scenes, it's all bland. https://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire4/e2ce494d4542567d2169c4395411241d1448256223_full.jpg https://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire1/72923043282b8eee47806320c8b739251448256752_full.jpg vs Geek Toys https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=312391143644384&set=pcb.312391833644315 https://somoskudasai.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/xwzoqVPB_2x.jpg Season 1 was okay. IMS (Season 2) was just AIC Plus+ staff. But the same director was pretty much doing 1-3 and quality heavily dropped. The old staff and studio probably didn't expect the series to be one of the biggest ln franchises and still treated the series like a low budget adult video thus dragging down Tsunako and Tachibana's name. Which is why the franchise struggled to get new people after 2015 especially when overlord, danmachi, re zero, konosuba, tensura came out. Sure the old anime feels nostalgic but the franchise is much bigger now and has to compete with other shows. Comparing just the character design is superficial. The most important thing is animation and direction. Look at the difference between the S2 and the film. Actually, S1's animation is the best, but I didn't find short cuts. DaL S4: https://media.tenor.com/v1By5IT58EcAAAPo/date-a-live-tohka-yatogami.mp4 https://media.tenor.com/S72S7ObIoB4AAAPo/date-a-live-dal.mp4 https://media.tenor.com/PCF2D_TTTC8AAAPo/touhu-players-date-a-live.mp4 DaL Mayuri: https://www.sakugabooru.com/data/b6b6f176843afc0cfd925b9c57e9b596.mp4 https://www.sakugabooru.com/data/23aa7f10cfb9e5f5744af27a25e5c320.mp4 DaL S2: https://www.sakugabooru.com/data/be8ebd1f3ccb6719d2db70eeaddbc887.mp4 |
MaouHero said: It is actually a pretty important part for marketing, especially for a franchise of DAL's magnitude, since they often use the blu ray visuals for merch and stuff which is key for funding. But s2-3 and Mayuri blu ray visuals were not good which is why you don't see it on merchandise and it is entirely Tsunako's artwork until s4. This creates a lot of work on Tsunako.Comparing just the character design is superficial. The most important thing is animation and direction. Look at the difference between the S2 and the film. Actually, S1's animation is the best, but I didn't find short cuts. It is different from like SAO and other series where artwork is largely the studios. The producers know the visuals look bad but they don't make a fuss about it. Tachibana himself is a genius but kind of lets the producers make all the decisions and not meddle in it. Similiar with Reki Kawahara. A ln author like Ishibumi wants like complete control over his franchise which is why the studio got changed. Ellen's cgi aint bad and they actually nailed the fluidity during the Kurumi episodes. The models aren't bad but lack compositing and fluidity which every anime studio is facing unless it is done inhouse like Mappa or Ufotable. But I say people are doomposting on this studio. It is good the production committee made it this far despite the adversity and rough production. Tsunako has difficult to draw astral dresses so it is hard to animate for a long duration. They still have some 2d action. |
MaouHero said: Ellen's cgi aint bad and they actually nailed the fluidity during the Kurumi episodes. The models aren't bad but lack compositing and fluidity which every anime studio is facing unless it is done inhouse like Mappa or Ufotable. But I say people are doomposting on this studio. It is good the production committee made it this far despite the adversity and rough production. Tsunako has difficult to draw astral dresses so it is hard to animate for a long duration. They still have some 2d action.[/quote]DaL S4: https://media.tenor.com/v1By5IT58EcAAAPo/date-a-live-tohka-yatogami.mp4 https://media.tenor.com/S72S7ObIoB4AAAPo/date-a-live-dal.mp4 https://media.tenor.com/PCF2D_TTTC8AAAPo/touhu-players-date-a-live.mp4 The CGI is horrible, and the fact that it had to be used in such a simple scene shows the limitations of this studio. They designed the complete astral dress on all the girls, which doesn't even make sense. As I showed, the animation of the other seasons was much better. But not only that, the direction as well. Compare the first time Kurumi's clones appear, with when nibelcole appears. The nibelcole scene has no tension at all. This season was also heavily censored, several scenes were softer.      |
MaouHero said: Ellen's cgi aint bad and they actually nailed the fluidity during the Kurumi episodes. The models aren't bad but lack compositing and fluidity which every anime studio is facing unless it is done inhouse like Mappa or Ufotable. But I say people are doomposting on this studio. It is good the production committee made it this far despite the adversity and rough production. Tsunako has difficult to draw astral dresses so it is hard to animate for a long duration. They still have some 2d action. The CGI is horrible, and the fact that it had to be used in such a simple scene shows the limitations of this studio. They designed the complete astral dress on all the girls, which doesn't even make sense. As I showed, the animation of the other seasons was much better. But not only that, the direction as well. Compare the first time Kurumi's clones appear, with when nibelcole appears. The nibelcole scene has no tension at all. This season was also heavily censored, several scenes were softer. [/quote] You are same type of people who always gonna says "This season is bad , because it used CG animation " this CG animation look horrible , you don't say any words on CGI monster from  This CGI monster from Recently anime called Kaminaki Sekai no Kamisama Katsudou aka Working for God in a Godless World. Yesterday when I saw this CGI monster from that anime , I thought this CGI can't be worse than Ex-arm CGI animation where character have some details , where season 4 used less a min of CG animation in short scene , where BOFURI Season 2 - Episode 03 used 5 mins of CG animation and it looks horrible and you can easily tell they have used CG animation which used around 14-19 scene  and what about Neir automata the animation I was quickly turn off by anime's first episode where they used CG animation horrible , lots of best moment got ruined specially first boss from the game where jump from high and focus on 2B , but bad CG animation ruined everything because of Production issues , studio run out of time ,  Even Big anime studio like A-1 pictures and silver links got mess with deadline where they used CG animation to make up their work, but from your logic " the anime adapation did not adapt by big studio like mappa , A-1 picutures , clockoverwork and unfortable etc. " then this anime is bad ,this season is sucks beauause it used tiny sec of cg animation , no wonder you guys attacked staff from mappa studio because they used CG animation on fight scene ,where I did not noticed cg animation on fight scene until someone told me , It was cg animation because I was enjoying the episode so CG animation does not ruin the whole season, but from my philosophy on CG animation in anime "Good CG animation doesn't let you notice about CG animation" for examples , The world ends with you the animation , Hello world movie , and Shinigami Bocchan to Kuro Maid etc. good CG animation where it does not let you noticed about CG animation in entire epsisode, if you can't change your mind in CG animation then better stop watching anime, |
RoyalDemon05 said: Blue Lock overutilized CGi and their models are far more simplistic to DAL's. Vinland Saga did the same and their models are also far more simplistic. The CGI is horrible, and the fact that it had to be used in such a simple scene shows the limitations of this studio. They designed the complete astral dress on all the girls, which doesn't even make sense. As I showed, the animation of the other seasons was much better. https://www.google.com/search?q=blue+lock+bad+cgi&rlz=1C1CHBF_enCA707CA707&sxsrf=APwXEdeg960ps-FkvVtlMLPZCA-B8Apvjw:1680899929933&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiZ4eeZ0Jj-AhWFDd4KHQW3AyUQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1745&bih=915&dpr=1.1#imgrc=AWJ7QSe0Wv8GaM https://www.tiktok.com/discover/Blue-lock-cgi-scene Tsunako's designs are very complex for many anime studios to animate properly which is why Engage Kiss heavily simplified them. The production committee and studio performing better than 8bit and wit on their cgi usage, especially on a light novel budget. Geek Toys literally only had 10 employees when adapting this show and after the success they managed to expand to 35. So somehow a studio with only 10 employees on a small light novel budget that has to animate Tsunako's elaborate dresses is doing worse than 8 bit that has 70 employees on a shonen budget that had poor cgi with guys in plain soccer uniforms. I keep on hearing these stupid comments on reddit saying how DAL IV looks worse than prior seasons despite evidence against but get in arms whenever someone criticizes AOT, CSM, Nier, insert any popular show. |
icefirestone23 said: RoyalDemon05 said: Blue Lock overutilized CGi and their models are far more simplistic to DAL's. Vinland Saga did the same and their models are also far more simplistic. The CGI is horrible, and the fact that it had to be used in such a simple scene shows the limitations of this studio. They designed the complete astral dress on all the girls, which doesn't even make sense. As I showed, the animation of the other seasons was much better. https://www.google.com/search?q=blue+lock+bad+cgi&rlz=1C1CHBF_enCA707CA707&sxsrf=APwXEdeg960ps-FkvVtlMLPZCA-B8Apvjw:1680899929933&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiZ4eeZ0Jj-AhWFDd4KHQW3AyUQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1745&bih=915&dpr=1.1#imgrc=AWJ7QSe0Wv8GaM https://www.tiktok.com/discover/Blue-lock-cgi-scene Tsunako's designs are very complex for many anime studios to animate properly which is why Engage Kiss heavily simplified them. The production committee and studio performing better than 8bit and wit on their cgi usage, especially on a light novel budget. Geek Toys literally only had 10 employees when adapting this show and after the success they managed to expand to 35. So somehow a studio with only 10 employees on a small light novel budget that has to animate Tsunako's elaborate dresses is doing worse than 8 bit that has 70 employees on a shonen budget that had poor cgi with guys in plain soccer uniforms. I keep on hearing these stupid comments on reddit saying how DAL IV looks worse than prior seasons despite evidence against but get in arms whenever someone criticizes AOT, CSM, Nier, insert any popular show. The CGi looks like PS2, and is used heavily in any scene that has movement. 2D is only used in static or semi-static scenes. Other than that, there is no animation. The design of Engage kiss is very good and it's not simplistic, it's just that whoever makes the anime version is a different person. And again, I'm not just talking about the cg, the horrible animation is the least, the adaptation is a disaster and I showed an example above, I can show more if you want. here is a perfect example:https://www.tiktok.com/@ace.on.live.evo/video/7097459691948608795?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc |
MaouHeroApr 7, 2023 3:52 PM
RoyalDemon05 said: For the anime man, the guy's a fucking dumbass. Literally one look at like Ami Ami and you can tell that the franchise just sells that much above the competition probably even as a rival for Re Zero had the production been more consistent. It is probably in the like top 1% of anime.I believe geektoy choose different art style in season 4 to avoid infamous curse from date a live series, where the anime studio ended bankruptcy I also has doubt on change of art style in season 4 , because just like happened with high school Dxd season 4 which changed of studios and art style from original 3 seasons which killed the franchise but, geektoy has able to delivered everything fans has wanted, I have enjoy season 4 just like I did with season 1 and season 2 of date a live, it reminds of that feeling why I start to watch date a live anime in the first place, I think geektoy did good job in adaptation where JC staff butchered everything with volume 12 which leads them creativity bankruptcy where you can clearly see on one punch man season 2 which looks worse in animation and action scene because JC staff never suit in action anime except fantasy , sholen and shoujo anime etc, now Geektoy studio is going adaptation of complete date a live story into the animation I can't wait how's going to ended, I remember anime man said " Who watches date a live in 2023" Now he has eats own words when season 5 comes out in next year.. As for the art style change, there were many factors. Although the studio changed for the first 3 seasons, the director was largely the same but they likely got low on staff or budget. As a result, none of the s2-3 and mayuri judgment blu ray art is used on promotional materials. Tachibana never actually forced the studio change. It was done by the producers since the franchise needed to one up itself especially after JC staff. Tachibana himself a genius but he tend to let the producers and directors do whatever they want. IMS was a product of AIC plus and both those studios sort of went bankrupt meaning they had to find a new production team. JC staff was the only one that took it because most studios don't see much money in ln franchises. For DxD it is actually a different story. TNK wasn't doing that terribly in terms of production. But Ishibumi is very protective of his work, and got made how they made they deviated from the source. So much that he brought it up to publisher to force a studio change, and swore never to work with him again. It is a completely different situation. Ishibumi was hesitant to even allow season 4 to happen. Regardless, I don't think Hero was anywhere nearly well received as DAL IV. Largely because the massive shift in art style that almost ruins the feel of the first 3. Since DxD is like the hard full titty anime that you nowadays don't see, that is like the killer for reception. So the blu ray sales dropped lower than expected and with low circulation and lack of income, Ishibumi's ego, the DxD anime franchise is like dead at this point. |
RoyalDemon05 said: MaouHero said: The CGi looks like PS2, and is used heavily in any scene that has movement. 2D is only used in static or semi-static scenes. Other than that, there is no animation. The design of Engage kiss is very good and it's not simplistic, it's just that whoever makes the anime version is a different person. And again, I'm not just talking about the cg, the horrible animation is the least, the adaptation is a disaster and I showed an example above, I can show more if you want. here is a perfect example:https://www.tiktok.com/@ace.on.live.evo/video/7097459691948608795?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc just simply saying, " I don't like this adaptation, so I am not going watch the season 5 " Then we'll end discussion here at least geektoy respectful to source material, compare to JC staff who butchered volume 12 into 1 episode in season 3 episode 12 which almost murdered the series, if you don't enjoy this anime it doesn't mean , you have spread negativity around series also anime Studios because it's used 3 sec of CG animation, those CGI scene I have gave plenty of example of anime to you , which look ultra Dogsh*5 it doesn't look like PlayStation 2 version, also about Engane kiss anime that anime looks mid, where the fight scene and animation is good, but the story is going nowhere, almost nowhere I almost dropped that anime I kept going because it's made by date a live illustrator I want to respect the Artist,after I have watched that anime, I didn't expect A-1 picture messed up badly on Nier automata anime adaptation, CGi looks worse than Game cut scene, it looks like comes from PS3 game,but you didn't said about that thing on you reply I have mentioned it shows you are bias on your favorite studio anime, if you wanna compare date a live anime CG to other anime,better bring good example, where I start to believe " CG animation ruined season 4 " If you don't CG animation Or maybe you don't have good eyes to judge CG animation then you should better stopped watching anime entries, anime is for you better start watching Chinese CG animated for your study on CG animation how it was made in computer, because CG animation have own advantage over 2D animation, where 2D animation is dead on Western side, but due to spiderverse movie, it start to changing, where CG animation has own art style for example puss in the boots 2 the last wish, super Mario Bros movie etc. Those movie are great example how CG animation should evolve, I love puss in the boots 2 CG animation, where I start to curious about them. If the anime industry in Japan start to evolve their CG animation into many art style just like the 2D animation then it start blooming in CG animation in Japan, but we don't want to do that because we don't want Japan abandoned their 2D animation just like Disney did 15 years go, they kept in 2D animation while evolving CG animation where people won't noticed difference from 2D to 3D animation.. That's my belief, in conclusion, please don't spread negativity in this forum of date a live season 5 , where fans is already looking forward to them, if you wanna argue about Bad CG animation in date a live those stuff has already discuss in reddit and 4chan..so let fans the enjoy what they are getting.. Note: TikTok doesn't work in my region, better edited your reply from other source where I can see your examples.. Wow. Well, I didn't comment on your examples simply because I haven't seen any of those animes. Date a Live has no animation, it's just a bunch of static frames and when it does have animation it's that CG. I highly doubt the entire Nier Automata action scene is like that. And keep saying, the lousy animation is only part of the problem. All scenes were censored on S4. Whether it's Nia crying or writhing in pain, the scene from the fairy tales that is much more serious (mainly the end), or the scene where the nibelcole kill the shidou by torturing him and in the anime there isn't even blood. I could give several examples. But well, if you don't want me to complain because an anime with so much potential was destroyed by the anime team, that's fine. icefirestone23 said: RoyalDemon05 said: For the anime man, the guy's a fucking dumbass. Literally one look at like Ami Ami and you can tell that the franchise just sells that much above the competition probably even as a rival for Re Zero had the production been more consistent. It is probably in the like top 1% of anime.I believe geektoy choose different art style in season 4 to avoid infamous curse from date a live series, where the anime studio ended bankruptcy I also has doubt on change of art style in season 4 , because just like happened with high school Dxd season 4 which changed of studios and art style from original 3 seasons which killed the franchise but, geektoy has able to delivered everything fans has wanted, I have enjoy season 4 just like I did with season 1 and season 2 of date a live, it reminds of that feeling why I start to watch date a live anime in the first place, I think geektoy did good job in adaptation where JC staff butchered everything with volume 12 which leads them creativity bankruptcy where you can clearly see on one punch man season 2 which looks worse in animation and action scene because JC staff never suit in action anime except fantasy , sholen and shoujo anime etc, now Geektoy studio is going adaptation of complete date a live story into the animation I can't wait how's going to ended, I remember anime man said " Who watches date a live in 2023" Now he has eats own words when season 5 comes out in next year.. As for the art style change, there were many factors. Although the studio changed for the first 3 seasons, the director was largely the same but they likely got low on staff or budget. As a result, none of the s2-3 and mayuri judgment blu ray art is used on promotional materials. Tachibana never actually forced the studio change. It was done by the producers since the franchise needed to one up itself especially after JC staff. Tachibana himself a genius but he tend to let the producers and directors do whatever they want. IMS was a product of AIC plus and both those studios sort of went bankrupt meaning they had to find a new production team. JC staff was the only one that took it because most studios don't see much money in ln franchises. For DxD it is actually a different story. TNK wasn't doing that terribly in terms of production. But Ishibumi is very protective of his work, and got made how they made they deviated from the source. So much that he brought it up to publisher to force a studio change, and swore never to work with him again. It is a completely different situation. Ishibumi was hesitant to even allow season 4 to happen. Regardless, I don't think Hero was anywhere nearly well received as DAL IV. Largely because the massive shift in art style that almost ruins the feel of the first 3. Since DxD is like the hard full titty anime that you nowadays don't see, that is like the killer for reception. So the blu ray sales dropped lower than expected and with low circulation and lack of income, Ishibumi's ego, the DxD anime franchise is like dead at this point. I don't think there's anything to indicate that date the live was well received. Date a Live already had this season and the next (probably) planned before S4 came out. And this is not thanks to the quality of the anime, but to the brand name. |
MaouHeroApr 7, 2023 10:04 PM
MaouHero said: Well, I have already gave straight up to you if you don't like this adaptation, then don't watch but please don't spread negativity in this forum of date a live season 5 , where fans is already looking forward to them, about adaptation I do agree that season 4 has come censorship like Mukuro didn't lose her dress after shido kissed her , In nia sense I can understand that because westcort took her power, where Nia has only got 1% of power left to her where she could not lose her cloth , geektoy censored it so it will please with chinese censorship because around that time, the anime was finance by Chinese game company who makes Gacha game for mobile called date a live spirit pledge, you might have no ideas about date a live season 4 beta version look worse than final version you are complaining about RoyalDemon05 said: just simply saying, " I don't like this adaptation, so I am not going watch the season 5 " Then we'll end discussion here at least geektoy respectful to source material, compare to JC staff who butchered volume 12 into 1 episode in season 3 episode 12 which almost murdered the series, if you don't enjoy this anime it doesn't mean , you have spread negativity around series also anime Studios because it's used 3 sec of CG animation, those CGI scene I have gave plenty of example of anime to you , which look ultra Dogsh*5 it doesn't look like PlayStation 2 version, also about Engane kiss anime that anime looks mid, where the fight scene and animation is good, but the story is going nowhere, almost nowhere I almost dropped that anime I kept going because it's made by date a live illustrator I want to respect the Artist,after I have watched that anime, I didn't expect A-1 picture messed up badly on Nier automata anime adaptation, CGi looks worse than Game cut scene, it looks like comes from PS3 game,but you didn't said about that thing on you reply I have mentioned it shows you are bias on your favorite studio anime, if you wanna compare date a live anime CG to other anime,better bring good example, where I start to believe " CG animation ruined season 4 " If you don't CG animation Or maybe you don't have good eyes to judge CG animation then you should better stopped watching anime entries, anime is for you better start watching Chinese CG animated for your study on CG animation how it was made in computer, because CG animation have own advantage over 2D animation, where 2D animation is dead on Western side, but due to spiderverse movie, it start to changing, where CG animation has own art style for example puss in the boots 2 the last wish, super Mario Bros movie etc. Those movie are great example how CG animation should evolve, I love puss in the boots 2 CG animation, where I start to curious about them. If the anime industry in Japan start to evolve their CG animation into many art style just like the 2D animation then it start blooming in CG animation in Japan, but we don't want to do that because we don't want Japan abandoned their 2D animation just like Disney did 15 years go, they kept in 2D animation while evolving CG animation where people won't noticed difference from 2D to 3D animation.. That's my belief, in conclusion, please don't spread negativity in this forum of date a live season 5 , where fans is already looking forward to them, if you wanna argue about Bad CG animation in date a live those stuff has already discuss in reddit and 4chan..so let fans the enjoy what they are getting.. Note: TikTok doesn't work in my region, better edited your reply from other source where I can see your examples.. Wow. Well, I didn't comment on your examples simply because I haven't seen any of those animes. Date a Live has no animation, it's just a bunch of static frames and when it does have animation it's that CG. I highly doubt the entire Nier Automata action scene is like that. And keep saying, the lousy animation is only part of the problem. All scenes were censored on S4. Whether it's Nia crying or writhing in pain, the scene from the fairy tales that is much more serious (mainly the end), or the scene where the nibelcole kill the shidou by torturing him and in the anime there isn't even blood. I could give several examples. But well, if you don't want me to complain because an anime with so much potential was destroyed by the anime team, that's fine.  They had to release Beta episode to Chinese platform , because studio does not want to deal with Chinese censorship , you do know how ridiculous Chinese censorship to Japanese anime , that's you have seen almost all episodes got censored except final episode with kurumi scene , now date a live spirit pledge has been shut down global because Japanese company took back rights from Chinese developers and only made available in Chinese and japan region where the game have been shut down and removed from app store  So , you should not worry Data a live anime adaptation in good hands, where they are determine to complete data a live story into animation, since season 5 is gonna finance by KADOKAWA , where they are already marketing this anime in anime expo 2023 in japan , so Date a live season 5 in good hands , because like I have mention about High school DxD season 5 where changed of studio and art style ruined the series completely , where It stopped getting seasons , But that it didn't happen with date a live season 4 , where it turn much better season 3 disaster , you still have complains about season 4 did not had animation I would like to take course of animation from youtube and start to learn how to do basic animation in 2D also 3D , Or I recommend anime called Shirobako, where this anime has shown how anime studio produced animation where they have to follow their deadline where one of episode has argument about use of CG animation in the anime episode , I recommended to watch that anime where you will understand How anime industry works in japan , even my reply do not get change your mind then  |
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