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| Lol, this is probably one of the most generic episodes I've seen this season even for an isekai. We got elves, a dragon, and a prince who seems to taking a liking to Efa. Like, they put all the fantasy tropes we see these days into one episode. |
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| NOOOOO Efa NOOOOO You should not join Cecilio's harem. |
何それ？意味分かんない  |
| Nice, it has been a while since I've seen a CGI dragon |
| This mf is just dense af about love or other people feeling towards him despite how obvious it was. For a genius, that's kinda surprising and also very frustrating to watch. If he just act like he didn't understand then it will be much easier to take, like for example Cid Kagenou from The Eminence in Shadow, also a genius but he understand other people feelings for him but choose to act like he didn't know instead because he couldn't be bothered, Seika on the other hand just sounds so dumb with how many times he said "Huh, why?", it's very obvious you idiot... |
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| Are you serious? This guy legit advised his friend to go fuck prince and that it was good opportunity for her. Are we really seeing that? It's an honor for her to get her taint stretched by mr. I know it best because my father made me? Am dropping this piece of shit right this moment. You have to be divorced from reality to be this dense and stupid, especially considering he actually remembers his past life where he supposedly grew up somehow. Somehow I suffered through simply due to lack of things to watch, but this requires a lobotomy to be enjoyable. |
| seika really is a monster |
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| Seika being harsh to Yifa for not defending herself was pretty out of no where. The prince character was also fucking dumb. Either he was a sheltered spoiled prince or his country lacks any form of royal education because he seems clueless on how to handle the situation. It's 'his country so stay out of the matter' but also makes Seika handle the problem. No idea what happen but it feels like the writing just took a massive dip when it wasn't particularly notable to begin with. Then we have another awful cgi dragon. |
| Alright I’m ngl I love seika but he’s really starting to annoy me with how he’s treating Yifa. The man has lived an entire life before being isekai’d and surely understands she’s in love with him. I mean even his companion spirit is telling him, yet he gives her the most shallow responses and doesn’t just directly address the elephant in the room. All the drama could be avoided if he just said “I want you to be happy, I’ll support you in whatever you choose, I don’t want to force you to do anything” the ambiguous answers he’s given are just causing more unnecessary drama. I really hope this gets sorted next episode cause one of the main reasons I love this series was how it managed to feel fresh. |
Marinate1016Feb 25, 2023 12:30 PM
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| I don't know how Seika lived his life before he isekai'd. But I know that he experienced betrayal and the world turning against him. Therefore I imagine he became a very pragmatic and rational human being because of that. He doesn't want her decision to be out of a feeling of obligation since she is his servant/slave. I believe what he wanted Yifa to understand was basically not to decide only emotionally but also rationally. On top of that Yifa has been enslaved/in this servant status for all of her life. Seika just wants her to make a well-informed decision. He can't offer her this wealthy and sheltered life that a prince might be able to give (if he actually really cares for her and not just sees her as some sort of plaything). So it depends on her, if she actually wants that sort of life or not. That he actually wants her to stay with him, is quite clear looking at the scene in the carriage and as they talked in bed. But he simply wants her to decide on her own free will, maybe the first time in her life, which path she wants to tread on and what life she wants to try out. And we will most likely see in the next episode how 'nice' this prince really is. Seika's thoughts at the end as he talked to the prince about Yifa might foreshadow some things happening as he stated that hopefully the prince doesn't play some dirty tricks on her. Paul said: It's 'his country so stay out of the matter' but also makes Seika handle the problem. Well, it is 'his country'. It's upon his responsibility and not Seika's. The prince is the one in charge. It's like you pay somebody to fix something specific and this person informs you about other issues. As long as you don't say that the person in question should fix that as well, that person has no right to just act and then even charge you extra. Seika just provides a service. His head will not roll if it turns out to be a wrong decision. That's why he bowed his head and said, 'I overstepped'. He realized. Marinate1016 said: All the drama could be avoided if he just said “I want you to be happy, I’ll support you in whatever you choose, I don’t want to force you to do anything” the ambiguous answers he’s given are just causing more unnecessary drama. I think his social interaction with other human beings took quite a hit in his past life after what he experienced as all of the people he knew betrayed him. I mean, just look at his goal to become friends with the hero, watch how the hero gets slain by the society that she swore to protect and after that live a 'happy life' as if nothing happened. That is quite wicked to watch a so-called 'friend' die and smile about it. Even in the beginning iirc he sees Yifa more like some sort of tool that could be helpful in his plans since she can use spirits around her. So his reactions to Yifa now after 8 episodes show that he actually softened up and cares for her in his own weird way that seems to actually agitate a lot of people here^^ |
the_cureFeb 25, 2023 2:00 PM
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| Damn Seika is incredibly dense when it comes to relationships. Also yeah something is going to happen to Efa when Seika is away. I mean it has already started in the end credits. After this Seika better realise Efa's emotions or she is gone. |
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| It was going so well until this episode happened, What is this bad decision making? Seika is old enough yet he's sooooooooo dense. I think I can see why he has to do that to Yifa but still, should have been a different approach. |
EuphoriaFeb 25, 2023 3:42 PM
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| woaaa this episode xddd I hate NTR |
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| of course she knows he's a monster. after all, she has known him since they were both so young. she loves him for who and what he is; baka prince is trying to manipulate yifa to agree to become a part of his damn harem, but sorry to say, dumb prince, yifa's feelings for seika's strong she won't exchange it for whatever luxurious life you might offer her as part of your harem. |
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| Damn cliffhanger and damn Sekai being a dense MC, if he still hasn't realised Efa's feelings for him... *facepalm* I do hope there's some growth from his side in the near future... |
CrazyButNot4UMar 2, 2023 8:33 AM
| It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it, is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service. |
| My god, that prince is annoying AF. I want to see him get punched in the face so much, or at least knocked down a couple of pegs. Seika is cool when he's OP with his techniques, but of course he had to be your usual super dense protagonist where it counts. Typical. Still waiting on his promise to be more "smart" or "cunning" in this life, as I've yet to see it. So far he's only shown off his strength, to the point of being recognized enough to take on a dragon. |
| Seika's a dummy. Did he forget Yifa came to his room and offered herself? I knew that Elf had picked up something. Never guessed Yifa was part Elf. |
| oof the anime is catching up to where I'm at in the manga. Seika really being the usual dense protag huh? lol. |
 Never ending plan to watch list... |
| My NTR senses are tingling. I mean, MC literally leaving his girl when there's an aggressive prince that likes the girl so much. Bruh. And so that's why Yifa looks so beautiful, she's a descendant of elves. |
korewaItai said: Cid understands other people's feelings? We did not watch the same show. This mf is just dense af about love or other people feeling towards him despite how obvious it was. For a genius, that's kinda surprising and also very frustrating to watch. If he just act like he didn't understand then it will be much easier to take, like for example Cid Kagenou from The Eminence in Shadow, also a genius but he understand other people feelings for him but choose to act like he didn't know instead because he couldn't be bothered, Seika on the other hand just sounds so dumb with how many times he said "Huh, why?", it's very obvious you idiot... |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
the_cure said: Very well said. It's like everybody is watching a different show if they don't understand Seika up to this point.I don't know how Seika lived his life before he isekai'd. But I know that he experienced betrayal and the world turning against him. Therefore I imagine he became a very pragmatic and rational human being because of that. He doesn't want her decision to be out of a feeling of obligation since she is his servant/slave. I believe what he wanted Yifa to understand was basically not to decide only emotionally but also rationally. On top of that Yifa has been enslaved/in this servant status for all of her life. Seika just wants her to make a well-informed decision. He can't offer her this wealthy and sheltered life that a prince might be able to give (if he actually really cares for her and not just sees her as some sort of plaything). So it depends on her, if she actually wants that sort of life or not. That he actually wants her to stay with him, is quite clear looking at the scene in the carriage and as they talked in bed. But he simply wants her to decide on her own free will, maybe the first time in her life, which path she wants to tread on and what life she wants to try out. And we will most likely see in the next episode how 'nice' this prince really is. Seika's thoughts at the end as he talked to the prince about Yifa might foreshadow some things happening as he stated that hopefully the prince doesn't play some dirty tricks on her. Paul said: It's 'his country so stay out of the matter' but also makes Seika handle the problem. Well, it is 'his country'. It's upon his responsibility and not Seika's. The prince is the one in charge. It's like you pay somebody to fix something specific and this person informs you about other issues. As long as you don't say that the person in question should fix that as well, that person has no right to just act and then even charge you extra. Seika just provides a service. His head will not roll if it turns out to be a wrong decision. That's why he bowed his head and said, 'I overstepped'. He realized. Marinate1016 said: All the drama could be avoided if he just said “I want you to be happy, I’ll support you in whatever you choose, I don’t want to force you to do anything” the ambiguous answers he’s given are just causing more unnecessary drama. I think his social interaction with other human beings took quite a hit in his past life after what he experienced as all of the people he knew betrayed him. I mean, just look at his goal to become friends with the hero, watch how the hero gets slain by the society that she swore to protect and after that live a 'happy life' as if nothing happened. That is quite wicked to watch a so-called 'friend' die and smile about it. Even in the beginning iirc he sees Yifa more like some sort of tool that could be helpful in his plans since she can use spirits around her. So his reactions to Yifa now after 8 episodes show that he actually softened up and cares for her in his own weird way that seems to actually agitate a lot of people here^^ |
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| I wonder if there's a clearer explanation in the LN. Is he just completely dense or is this a weird way of showing kindness? It also doesn't help that the audience immediately has a negative perception of the whole "harem" thing, while Seika (if he's telling the truth) claims that it's a great honor to be selected for the prince's harem, and Efa is technically a slave after all. Then there's the fact that the prince is obviously shady, like inviting Efa to his room to "talk". There's just a lot of conflicting parts here, on the surface it doesn't seem to be thought out very well. My guess is that this amounts to little more than some forced drama. |
LostSpectreFeb 25, 2023 9:49 PM
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| Man, I'd been really enjoying him as a main character but Seika was really pissing me off this episode. First he goes off on Yifa way too hard for not protecting herself and then he pretty much tells her to go off and join the prince's harem? Even if I overlook him somehow being too dumb to realise that Yifa actually likes him despite Yuki explicitly saying so, he just straight up tells her exactly what he was told not to say by the other girls. The prince was annoying too but unlike similar characters in other shows he doesn't actually seem like a bad guy, just very spoiled and sheltered. Easily the worst episode so far, and the CG didn't help. The lava tiger was no-clipping through Seika's attack ffs. That's one thing in a game where you obviously can't prepare for every possible interaction between a character and an object but this is anime, there's only one outcome to create and yet they let it happen. |
| Fml the level of denseness of the mc is absolutely mind-blowing at this point... Who the fuck writes shit like this? Wtf is this plot. Absolute garbage episode. |
| Why cant people write good male MC anymore lol. The females are interesting but Seika who is like 50+ actual years old is dumb as a rock with basic human understanding. Even his fox monster has more sense and she not even human. Do they want us to feel for Yifa? I can see why Seika died now, all int and no wis. He would make an awful father I hope he never reproduces. |
| Alright, I was curious enough to check out the novel, and unsurprisingly it's the adaptation at fault here. Everything in the episode more or less makes sense when you have all the proper details. Long story short, the "harem" isn't shady at all, and it's pretty much unthinkable for a slave to receive such an invitation/proposal. The prince isn't really a bad guy, he's just a bit eccentric and impulsive, him going behind Seika's back to be alone with her wasn't out of ill intent. Seika isn't just completely dense or trampling on her feelings by bringing up the prince's offer, since he cares about her he has to get her honest thoughts on the matter, and make it clear that he'll respect whatever decision she makes. However, since he got upset with her when she froze up when the tiger was lunging at her, she interprets this as him wanting to get rid of her. Also, if she does enter the palace, then he can also free her from slavery, but if she remains with him it isn't in his power to free her yet. Oh, and there's a lot of talk about thinking seriously about her future, because at 15 she's now an adult, which is kind of important. |
LostSpectreFeb 26, 2023 12:15 AM
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| Seika being typical dense protag MC-kun no. 69, it's about as competent as a lot of trash out there. Seika going on dragon investigation duty out of the blue since he didn't have anything arranged, and as much as Amyu and Yuki would like to go, they have to stay behind for their reasons. The Astiria crown prince Cecilio with his elf servant Lize comes knocking in his school, asking for Yifa's hand for a harem. But on the more serious topic of the dragons, it creating more damage amidst the harmonious treaty, it cretes a cause for concern. Of course, both Amyu and Yuki are gravely concerned about Yifa landing onto Cecilio's hands, and unfortunately for them, Seika's not the type to focus on romance, though his heart tugs at him constantly. The dragon that's hung above the Astiria Kingdom's old capital Protoasper, it's mercenaries like Zekt who help contain the dragon and slay it. But there's a problem, the dragon is the symbol of Astiria, and as much as Seika warns against slaying it, this is Cecilio's choice, and things between Yifa and Seika are purely theirs alone, if the latter wants her to improve without her. Cecilio is getting desperate about Yifa, and out of fear, chooses to sleep with him instead for safety. How to tell him that Yifa actually has feelings for him, something that his familiar has warned him time and time again since young. Seika going up the mountain to see the dragon for days vs. Cecilio trying to secure Yifa to his harem, who'll be successful? |
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| Yifa too precious and beautiful !! but i prefer that kingetsune girl !! |
| This episode was strange. It felt so disconnecting and emotionally charged. Something I didn't expect from an anime of this caliber. |
| I thought maybe I was weird for calling her "Efa" when everyone else is saying "Yifa" but that's literally what's listed on MAL? WTF lol |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| if seika gets cucked this episode is gonna be a solid 1 and dropped for sure |
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| Pretty annoying episode, the new characters are all quite annoying. Yifa's an elf descendant. |
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Man, another over-the-top dense and stupid MC. Like how being in a harem is a great honour, if he doesn't start to see things as they are,  |
| bruh why is Seika being such an airhead when it's already established that he's not your typical dense mc... |
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Kerfunky said: maybe it's like since the MC past world his very close ones betrayed him, he's kinda like cautious so it won't end-up the same way like before...I legitimately made an account so I could join in on this discussion. I am thoroughly disappointed with this episode - and our MC. On some level it is commendable to go with the idea of "If she wants to than she can". But it has been made clear to the MC by several characters that it isn't what she wants. And to avoid insinuating she should as it would clearly hurt her feelings. The level of density or stubbornness is beyond believable. Yifa should just join the princes' harem. It could serve as a good lesson for the MC to treasure and acknowledge his companions feelings. I think the regret of losing her would put into perspective what he had - and how much it would suck to lose it. And then hopefully if some other person is dumb enough to fall for him, he won't repeat the same stupid crap that he did here. Really ham it up how much she enjoys her decision to accept his evening invitation, and how glad she is to have taken the risk. Even have her express that she's grateful to MC for allowing her to go see what she was missing, the reciprocity of affection. I know this won't happen - I'd be utterly shocked if this sort of show/Light novel had an "NTR" esq plot line. damn it almost feels deserved with how poorly he's treating his companions. But damn at least it would be more interesting than playing out this "Im going to push away my close companion, almost lose her, but say something really sweet to win her back at the last minute" its so tired and lacks impact. Likely dropping this show after the next episode. I wanna see if this story has the guts for a female lead to leave the MC. if she does leave, I may see the show out until the end, but I find that highly improbable. also what's this filth in saying "it's an honor to go from being a literal slave, to instead join a harem". Totally treating her like property. let me go from being a slave to a princes' side piece. If you truly wanted to afford her the freedom to make her own choices, you'd free her. and let her live her life how she chose. If she chooses to stay with you and your family great, but then there'd be no reason to have these conversations about PURCHASING A PERSON. this episode is such poor taste man. This prince keeps trying to literally BUY her off him. like it's sickening. I know I said earlier I hope she joins the harem, but goddamn even that's a choice totally lacking self respect. Either situation she chooses is screwed, what she should do is ask for her own freedom, then find herself a man who doesn't have the literal ability to sell her if he deigned to do so. anywayz mediocre ep 3/5. |
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| Many people complain about how dense the MC is. I don't think that's the case. He has been told from the other female characters and especially from his kitsune spirit Yuki not to bring it up and that she actually has feelings for him. He has been made aware several times. However, even when talking to the prince in the end, he stays by his case. He wants her to decide whether she wants to be with him or not. This is not about denseness. This is a decision Seika made because he thinks this matter should be resolved in this manner. He will free her eventually anyway, but I guess he kinda wants to see if she can make decisions by her own since that is what her freedom will mean. Basically the first step of getting rid of those chains: Making your own decisions and bearing the consequences... for the first time in her life. |
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