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Jul 2, 2022 12:03 AM
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Every time Hiroto Nagata isn't making top tier animation its just unberable to watch or read, i literally felt like i would have a better experience without subtitles because of how rushed and poorly developed this was, and to make it worse, it was poor development on one of the most generic early introductions and character personalities i've seen since i bothered watching a ultra generic 10000 level op isekai work

Any1 that knows the original, does it get better after all of this? I really like the character designs and the fights (even if they're a bit generic) but i just can't stand everyone talking and acting like a cartoon network licensed anime as if they're 5 year olds in the body of super models

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EDIT: Just adding a universal message to whoever is pulling the average rating as a logic to diss me and be offensive

I try as much as possible to avoid subjective positions whenever i'm rating an anime
Which means i can enjoy an anime by a lot, if its garbo i'll still rate it like its garbo

As an example i enjoyed kanojo mo kanojo and even started reading the manga because of the anime, but that didn't stop it from being a crazy nonsense of a romcom with artificial characters

Please understand that objective and subjective things are different and stop thinking everyone must share your approach of "this gets 9 points because it made me smile"

Thank you very much
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Jul 2, 2022 12:19 AM
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it's only been like around a week dawg, ion think u should call it the "worst anime" yet
Jul 2, 2022 12:30 AM
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Potato_Awards said:
Every time Hiroto Nagata isn't making top tier animation its just unberable to watch or read, i literally felt like i would have a better experience without subtitles because of how rushed and poorly developed this was, and to make it worse, it was poor development on one of the most generic early introductions and character personalities i've seen since i bothered watching a ultra generic 10000 level op isekai work

Any1 that knows the original, does it get better after all of this? I really like the character designs and the fights (even if they're a bit generic) but i just can't stand everyone talking and acting like a cartoon network licensed anime as if they're 5 year olds in the body of super models

I’ve heard that everything after episode 3 will be anime original but I’m not sure if it’s true, honestly you are SOOOOO much better off watching the original even if the first 3 volumes of the original look bad. This anime butchers the show
Jul 2, 2022 12:33 AM
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Shaft be like: are we a joke to you?
Jul 2, 2022 1:49 AM
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The animation is beautiful and probably means a lot to the people that watched the original back in the day i dont know what youre on about lol
Are we really gonna make it..?
Jul 2, 2022 1:56 AM
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Coast27 said:

I guess he acts like a sophisticated critic or he’s too old to like anime. Each person has your own critical sense so we can’t do nothing about it, but sometimes this sense doesn’t make any sense.


I'm deadass turning 30 and sit at an 8.50 bro just ENJOY THE DAMN MEDIA

Yeah, he just needs to enjoy the media but prefer don’t do that lmfao
Jul 2, 2022 2:21 AM
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Potato_Awards said:
Every time Hiroto Nagata isn't making top tier animation its just unberable to watch or read, i literally felt like i would have a better experience without subtitles because of how rushed and poorly developed this was, and to make it worse, it was poor development on one of the most generic early introductions and character personalities i've seen since i bothered watching a ultra generic 10000 level op isekai work

Any1 that knows the original, does it get better after all of this? I really like the character designs and the fights (even if they're a bit generic) but i just can't stand everyone talking and acting like a cartoon network licensed anime as if they're 5 year olds in the body of super models

That's coz the earlier episodes are supposed to be a recap of a certain amount of content in the original after which this show will introduce its deviation. Ep 3 would be it.




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Potato_Awards said:
Every time Hiroto Nagata isn't making top tier animation its just unberable to watch or read, i literally felt like i would have a better experience without subtitles because of how rushed and poorly developed this was, and to make it worse, it was poor development on one of the most generic early introductions and character personalities i've seen since i bothered watching a ultra generic 10000 level op isekai work

Any1 that knows the original, does it get better after all of this? I really like the character designs and the fights (even if they're a bit generic) but i just can't stand everyone talking and acting like a cartoon network licensed anime as if they're 5 year olds in the body of super models


I think that award goes to ex-arm, nothing could ever top that. Second and third places are tied between WEP finale and 2nd Season of the Promised Neverland.
Jul 2, 2022 4:17 AM
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how is the animation bad? The first three episodes are alright to me but I have hopes it would be better since it's made by Shaft after all. Also I heard it's going in its original route away from the original novel story
Jul 2, 2022 4:42 AM

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Shaft hasn't made anything good recently, don't expect this to be any better
Jul 2, 2022 5:45 AM
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Potato_Awards said:
Every time Hiroto Nagata isn't making top tier animation its just unberable to watch or read, i literally felt like i would have a better experience without subtitles because of how rushed and poorly developed this was, and to make it worse, it was poor development on one of the most generic early introductions and character personalities i've seen since i bothered watching a ultra generic 10000 level op isekai work

Any1 that knows the original, does it get better after all of this? I really like the character designs and the fights (even if they're a bit generic) but i just can't stand everyone talking and acting like a cartoon network licensed anime as if they're 5 year olds in the body of super models

I somewhat agree but they did try to fit nearly an entire season of RWBY into 3 episodes so it makes sense it is rushed. it looks fire tho so i wouldn't say that and the plot does pick up a lot in later volumes especially around vol 3. It is yet to be seen if it is as good but there is definitely worse
Jul 2, 2022 6:16 AM
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Lol, what happened here, i rarely visit this site but what the heck i find there so much st*pid people that doesn't even know How 2D works... This is One of best animated Show in entire world for sure.. best series on this year is actually nothing compared to Animation of RWBY Ice Queendom, especially for the battle scene in eps 1.. if you didnt understand the story cuz the paced, its just proof that you is so dumb@ss and lack of knowledge on this term, even me who never watch the original, still can understand what happened and the story itself, lmao, even i kinda crying bcuz the show that Well Animated like this is still exist for new... I think yall better to Stop watching Anime and going for others else, since you don't know how its works and how to enjoy each of them .... then its was Something that i want to say as a Weebs for 12year long
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zIlverKitsune said:
Lol, what happened here, i rarely visit this site but what the heck i find there so much st*pid people that doesn't even know How 2D works... This is One of best animated Show in entire world for sure.. best series on this year is actually nothing compared to Animation of RWBY Ice Queendom, especially for the battle scene in eps 1.. if you didnt understand the story cuz the paced, its just proof that you is so dumb@ss and lack of knowledge on this term, even me who never watch the original, still can understand what happened and the story itself, lmao, even i kinda crying bcuz the show that Well Animated like this is still exist for new... I think yall better to Stop watching Anime and going for others else, since you don't how its works and how to enjoy each of them .... then its was Something that i want to say as a Weebs for 12year long


You are right, even though it was rushed, I still can quite understand what the show was about. Not to mention that these 3 episodes might have more frames than the entire season of record of ragnarok lol
Jul 2, 2022 9:10 AM

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The answer is yes, maybe I'm rushing into things but this looks like a Takt Op. Destiny with "cute girls". What a shame.
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you haven't watched much if this is the worst you have seen in recent years lmao
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Potato_Awards said:
Every time Hiroto Nagata isn't making top tier animation its just unberable to watch or read, i literally felt like i would have a better experience without subtitles because of how rushed and poorly developed this was, and to make it worse, it was poor development on one of the most generic early introductions and character personalities i've seen since i bothered watching a ultra generic 10000 level op isekai work

Any1 that knows the original, does it get better after all of this? I really like the character designs and the fights (even if they're a bit generic) but i just can't stand everyone talking and acting like a cartoon network licensed anime as if they're 5 year olds in the body of super models

Yikes. Don't quit your day job, bud.
Jul 2, 2022 11:13 AM
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Animation is catastrophic, rewritten script is non sense and an insult to the author who's dead (but at least will not see this), and the japanese voices something as nervous as RWBY is nauseous... and there's massive abuse of cgi so i don't understand what's the point of making this adaptation.
Jul 2, 2022 6:19 PM

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Well hate to break it to ya but the original is pretty much this but even more modern cartoon humor.
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Potato_Awards said:
Every time Hiroto Nagata isn't making top tier animation its just unberable to watch or read, i literally felt like i would have a better experience without subtitles because of how rushed and poorly developed this was, and to make it worse, it was poor development on one of the most generic early introductions and character personalities i've seen since i bothered watching a ultra generic 10000 level op isekai work

Any1 that knows the original, does it get better after all of this? I really like the character designs and the fights (even if they're a bit generic) but i just can't stand everyone talking and acting like a cartoon network licensed anime as if they're 5 year olds in the body of super models
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Jul 2, 2022 6:34 PM

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naufrago said:
The answer is yes, maybe I'm rushing into things but this looks like a Takt Op. Destiny with "cute girls". What a shame.
Can i say, that was the first impression i had on this lol
Jul 2, 2022 7:46 PM
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One of the worst piece of animated media made in the recent year ?

I mean, even among your 9-10/10 I see things worse, so apparently not?
Jul 2, 2022 7:49 PM
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I'm gonna ignore the gratuitous bashing of a work that's at least more well produced than half the shit that comes out of the anime industry this past decade, and just answer your question about if it gets "better":

At this point, no idea, as this 3rd episode went in a different direction from the original, the "nightmares" stuff being a completely new plot point. Everything else is pretty much as I remember it from when it released.
If the nightmares are only a sub plot, and doesn't make everything change, then yes, you can expect the characters to become way more serious at one point.

Kid's curry level of mild spoilers (Volume = Season btw):
Basically the three first seasons of the original work were a kind of school life prologue with actions scenes in a sense, but the end of Volume 3 is one of the biggest tone shifts I've seen in an animated work. If you want darker themes and more mature characters, it might be worth it to stick with it, if only to see that tone shift for yourself.
However, be warned that the 3 first episodes of this "adaptation" went up until the end of Volume 1, which had a shorter runtime compared to following Volumes, so I'm expecting these 12 episodes to go up to the end of Volume 3, maybe with the post credits of the last one being the start of Volume 4.
Basically if I'm right, the tone shift would happen in the last episode, up to you if you wanna keep watching until then.
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They crammed 2 and a half web series volumes into 3 episodes

Excuse me what? You Know Sun doesn't appear only for the tournament right?
This was V1E15.

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Jul 3, 2022 4:21 AM

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Potato_Awards said:
Every time Hiroto Nagata isn't making top tier animation its just unberable to watch or read, i literally felt like i would have a better experience without subtitles because of how rushed and poorly developed this was, and to make it worse, it was poor development on one of the most generic early introductions and character personalities i've seen since i bothered watching a ultra generic 10000 level op isekai work

Any1 that knows the original, does it get better after all of this? I really like the character designs and the fights (even if they're a bit generic) but i just can't stand everyone talking and acting like a cartoon network licensed anime as if they're 5 year olds in the body of super models

That's coz the earlier episodes are supposed to be a recap of a certain amount of content in the original after which this show will introduce its deviation. Ep 3 would be it.


So that's why it was so fast paced? At least now I understand why. It's really hard to get attached to the relationships that are being build while enjoying the growth that the characters are going through when we don't get enough time to see them develop. Weiss went from ''i hate faunus/the white fang. they've killed so many people'' then had a very short conversation with Yang, then she met Blake again shorty later and was like 'i was thinking, thinking, thinking and now I like you'. It'd been a hot minute since their arguement and a lifetime of bitterness and anger for Weiss. At least give her a day to reconcile. I personally enjoy the animation, but the fast pace of the plot throws me off. I hope they slow it down from now on.
...At least let me finish.

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your existence is just a waste of space. go watch something other then anime since you watched so many and have a 5.86 average rating. you opinion is just like throwing a cup of water in the ocean anyway


Said a person who gave Kaguya-sama and SpyXFamily 10/10 and favorited Demon Slayer and Vivy... Even if we accept the fact that the existence of the perrson you speak of is "a waste of space" at least he doesn't spoil mal's ratings by giving outrageous scores to pretty average titles, which makes it harder for newcomers to take a fancy for anime. Which, according to your logic, means that you are not just a waste of space, you are some kind of ebola. And yes, just you know, I am not fully serious with this comment. All I am doing is just pointing out a fact.

P.s Please, man, be more chill.


Giving Kaguya a 10/10 is pretty reasonable - you sound just as up your own ass as OP. Someone new to anime absolutely should watch all those shows imo - rating them high is doing newcomers a favor.
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Look @Potato_Awards we get your intentions, but you're on the road to dissing, which makes your argument already blatant and contradictory enough.

And for you to say that this is "One of the worst pieces of animated media", you ain't a seasoned anime veteran enough to know what's good and what's bad.

As for if RWBY gets better after the somewhat mixed reactions of the 1st 3 episodes, only time will tell if Tow Ubukata's writing holds up.
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Nah, you overreacting bro. It is all good, but gets double the hate cause of pretentious fans of the original GARBAGE. The utter trash that was animation, comedy, and storytelling in the original made me sick. And I am glad they decided to cut it completly. So far solid in my opinion on its own.
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"I try as much as possible to avoid subjective positions whenever i'm rating an anime"

"Please understand that objective and subjective things are different and stop thinking everyone must share your approach of "this gets 9 points because it made me smile""

Lmfao. Ratings are and always will be entirely subjective, so both these statements don't make any sense. If I want to rate something a 9 because it was a blast to watch, I will, regardless of it being or not "trash". Trying to be "objective" does not make you a professional critic nor does it give you a moral ground over anyone.
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Jul 3, 2022 2:25 PM

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What bothers me is how people on MAL judge something, based on 10% of what they seen, aka the first few episodes.
No professional reviewer judges something based on a small bit they seen, they judge it as a whole.
Its like when people said Shield Hero got better as it went on, but it objectively got worse, animation, direction, sound, everything horrible quality and a nonsensical fanservice last episodes.

You judge this based on 3 episodes out of 12? LOL, either certified troll, attention seeker or just wilfully ignorant.
It might get better for all you know, and for all we know it might get worse, who the he** knows until its all been aired.
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Zanfroni said:
"I try as much as possible to avoid subjective positions whenever i'm rating an anime"

"Please understand that objective and subjective things are different and stop thinking everyone must share your approach of "this gets 9 points because it made me smile""

Lmfao. Ratings are and always will be entirely subjective, so both these statements don't make any sense. If I want to rate something a 9 because it was a blast to watch, I will, regardless of it being or not "trash". Trying to be "objective" does not make you a professional critic nor does it give you a moral ground over anyone.
You missed the point which isn't to have a moral ground over anyone nor make myself be a professional critic, but just to explain to people that my ratings aren't related to my enjoyment like they're trying to force

And yes its impossible to be completely objective, but you can try to avoid being subjective as much as possible how i showed in my kanojo mo kanojo explanation, which is what i said, idk why you adding extra text that isn't there or shifting my comment like its yours
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What bothers me is how people on MAL judge something, based on 10% of what they seen, aka the first few episodes.
No professional reviewer judges something based on a small bit they seen, they judge it as a whole.
Its like when people said Shield Hero got better as it went on, but it objectively got worse, animation, direction, sound, everything horrible quality and a nonsensical fanservice last episodes.

You judge this based on 3 episodes out of 12? LOL, either certified troll, attention seeker or just wilfully ignorant.
It might get better for all you know, and for all we know it might get worse, who the he** knows until its all been aired.
i didn't judge the entire anime tho, thats clearly why i mentioned i was talking about those 3 episodes alone (that are the content of an entire season if you bother researching) and i didn't even say i would drop the series nor i even gave a score to it, i ask if it gets better after episode 3 from people that knew it, so i can know if it won't keep repeating the same issue i pointed out on those 3 episodes

You could try understanding the context of stuff before being offensive to someone, because that makes you the ignorant here tbh
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i didn't judge the entire anime tho, thats clearly why i mentioned i was talking about those 3 episodes alone (that are the content of an entire season if you bother researching) and i didn't even say i would drop the series nor i even gave a score to it, i ask if it gets better after episode 3 from people that knew it, so i can know if it won't keep repeating the same issue i pointed out on those 3 episodes

You could try understanding the context of stuff before being offensive to someone, because that makes you the ignorant here tbh


Clickbait title? Offended by critique? Did not write anything constructive or critical.

Yeah, I think my comment will stand, you should apply to work for a Tabloid, you fit right in, like a hand in a glove.
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Lmao @Potato_Awards Your post is literally calling this trash of the year and worst animation ever...
Yeah, I only watch dubbed anime, kill me now -_-
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Usually when people talk on a subject they know what they are talking about. I would sugest watching some animated media and not only pretending to do so. Maybe after that you won't be saying something so objectively wrong that you start getting bullied on the internet :)
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I mean there's that Skeleton Knight in another world or something. That has one of the most bland, badly animated, embarrassingly written edgy lines I've ever seen in an anime.

Yeah the first 3 episodes of Rwby anime isn't great by all means, but neither is it the worst.
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dude there's not even that many episodes out yet, like chill. also it's not that bad, from a writing standpoint it's a bit fast at times but the writing is pretty good (I choose to speak on this because I'm literally pursuing a degree that has to do with writing). Also the animation is pretty good, I mean it's studio shaft, they have great animation across the board. and last but not least it's WAY too early to tell, as I'm writing this only 4 episodes are out.
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Bait thread. Not even sure if the OP is serious about this one.

> One of the worst piece of animated media made in the recent year ?

Are you seriously implying it's one of the worst of the entire year? Compared to what, exactly?

I'm confused about this one.

Although i have my fair share of criticism towards this series, the fight scenes were top tier. I wish to see more of this quality in later episodes.
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The animation is beautiful and probably means a lot to the people that watched the original back in the day i dont know what youre on about lol

Yeah, the animation is so good, example when weiss fight with grimm in eps 1.
And Ruby movement when she's in her coat
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I don't know what you're seeing. it has a sort of comic book sketch style to it and I rlly like it. as an og fan it's nice to see such a fitting style to the story
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I hear the 4th episode will have better pacing.

Right now, it's mediocre at best, with some parts that are actually stunning. Not the worst.
I'm sure Record of Ragnarock 2 will fill that spot.
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Tbh I wouldn't call the shots just yet but one sure can see that even in the first 3 episodes the production is already bleeding.

Given also Shaft's fallen legacy and shaky reputation I'm not sure I'd bet my money on episodes 4-onward making a huge progress.

Given Nagata's cuts are fresh af. but the man can't animate the entire show on his own and when he's other people do cuts they look average at best and super wonky at worst.

Also seemingly they already had to do corrections between pre-air and tv release. It doesn't bode well bros
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I mean, it's not that bad. It's just pretty rushed, and it's very different, though not necessarily in a bad way. But the rush is for real, like one minute they are like "Jaune cannot use aura" and then immediately next scene he and Prryha are on the roof and she is like here you go he suddenly unlocked it. It's pretty rushed even by the standard of if you never watched the original and coming into this show fresh.

I definitely liked the fight better when it was all 3D, since it felt way smoother. They really tried to capture that smoothness in this one, but seems like their budget didn't allow it.
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Tbh I wouldn't call the shots just yet but one sure can see that even in the first 3 episodes the production is already bleeding.

Given also Shaft's fallen legacy and shaky reputation I'm not sure I'd bet my money on episodes 4-onward making a huge progress.

Given Nagata's cuts are fresh af. but the man can't animate the entire show on his own and when he's other people do cuts they look average at best and super wonky at worst.

Also seemingly they already had to do corrections between pre-air and tv release. It doesn't bode well bros


I definitely would not say a thing if I have no confirmation of a visible improvement, but my love for the old RWBY says otherwise. I'm just hoping for a better pacing. Forget outstanding animation. The story would have no atmosphere if episode 4 onward kept what they did before.

They had a great freelancer like Vincent Chansard, who worked on MHA, but I don't think he did enough. Idk if he actually did anything outstanding.

If they hired more great freelancers, they could've made this better.
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Zinzoo said:

Given also Shaft's fallen legacy and shaky reputation I'm not sure I'd bet my money on episodes 4-onward making a huge progress.


I heard from someone that watched the ep 4 premiere that the animation gets more consistent in ep 4 with a fight animation being put in too. Shaft also said that each episode will progressively get better. Hopefully this proves to be true and not just something they'd say to keep people interested that they're really upping their animation later on.
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whitebagelxyz said:

I definitely liked the fight better when it was all 3D, since it felt way smoother. They really tried to capture that smoothness in this one, but seems like their budget didn't allow it.

I think that a direct comparison does not make sense here. 3d and hand-drawn animation have different characteristics, different strengths and disadvantages. I don't think they were trying to reproduce or repeat the original action scenes here - instead, they focused on the strengths of hand-drawn animation - the beauty of the drawing, the feeling of weight and damage.
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If they hired more great freelancers, they could've made this better.

This is a TV series, not a movie. They have a sufficient number of great animators here - Kawata, AbeGen, Nagata. 4 outstanding action scenes and 2 good ones are more than enough for three episodes. If this show has problems right now, it's not the action scenes and their number, but what's in between. Animation errors, off-model faces, etc. - things that the animation directors had to supervise and fix and what they didn't have enough time for in these episodes. A lot of this has been fixed for the TV release, but not enough.
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False_Mirror said:
whitebagelxyz said:

I definitely liked the fight better when it was all 3D, since it felt way smoother. They really tried to capture that smoothness in this one, but seems like their budget didn't allow it.

I think that a direct comparison does not make sense here. 3d and hand-drawn animation have different characteristics, different strengths and disadvantages. I don't think they were trying to reproduce or repeat the original action scenes here - instead, they focused on the strengths of hand-drawn animation - the beauty of the drawing, the feeling of weight and damage.
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If they hired more great freelancers, they could've made this better.

This is a TV series, not a movie. They have a sufficient number of great animators here - Kawata, AbeGen, Nagata. 4 outstanding action scenes and 2 good ones are more than enough for three episodes. If this show has problems right now, it's not the action scenes and their number, but what's in between. Animation errors, off-model faces, etc. - things that the animation directors had to supervise and fix and what they didn't have enough time for in these episodes. A lot of this has been fixed for the TV release, but not enough.


The biggest problem is not animation. It is the adaptation of the characters. If you compare for example Ruby's personality, Weiss' personality and their relationship between animation and manga, they are two totally different stories.
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MunaXs said:
False_Mirror said:

I think that a direct comparison does not make sense here. 3d and hand-drawn animation have different characteristics, different strengths and disadvantages. I don't think they were trying to reproduce or repeat the original action scenes here - instead, they focused on the strengths of hand-drawn animation - the beauty of the drawing, the feeling of weight and damage.

This is a TV series, not a movie. They have a sufficient number of great animators here - Kawata, AbeGen, Nagata. 4 outstanding action scenes and 2 good ones are more than enough for three episodes. If this show has problems right now, it's not the action scenes and their number, but what's in between. Animation errors, off-model faces, etc. - things that the animation directors had to supervise and fix and what they didn't have enough time for in these episodes. A lot of this has been fixed for the TV release, but not enough.


The biggest problem is not animation. It is the adaptation of the characters. If you compare for example Ruby's personality, Weiss' personality and their relationship between animation and manga, they are two totally different stories.


I think it's not the problem since it's an alternate story line. That's like saying Toby's Peter Parker behaved differently from Tom's Peter Parker. Yes it can trigger some fans of original but what can't trigger the fans anyway?
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MunaXs said:


The biggest problem is not animation. It is the adaptation of the characters. If you compare for example Ruby's personality, Weiss' personality and their relationship between animation and manga, they are two totally different stories.


I think it's not the problem since it's an alternate story line. That's like saying Toby's Peter Parker behaved differently from Tom's Peter Parker. Yes it can trigger some fans of original but what can't trigger the fans anyway?


I agree with you but the original personality and relationship is much more appealing to me than the old Tsundere vs Dandere relationship.
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False_Mirror said:

it's not the action scenes and their number, but what's in between. Animation errors, off-model faces, etc. - things that the animation directors had to supervise and fix and what they didn't have enough time for in these episodes. A lot of this has been fixed for the TV release, but not enough.


With more time and more people with great animation skills, a TV show can have a quality of a feature film anime. MHA, AOT, Kyoani Animes and Demon Slayer are examples of that. Most of what was shown weren't just errors or off-models, it was 95% of the animation, pacing and art displayed.

The small few skilled people they have right now are the only ones they have and only two of them are the main animators for this show.
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Ignutz said:

The small few skilled people they have right now are the only ones they have and only two of them are the main animators for this show.

Four first-class animators is 4 more than the average seasonal show has. Yeah, with more resources, you can make a movie-quality tv-series, and with even more, you can make a Redline-tier quality movie, go bankrupt and close. This is not a damn shounen selling a gazillion copies of manga every month, what kind of ridiculous comparisons are these?

MunaXs said:

The biggest problem is not animation. It is the adaptation of the characters. If you compare for example Ruby's personality, Weiss' personality and their relationship between animation and manga, they are two totally different stories.

What does manga have to do with it? Manga is not the source material, the source material is a web series. And in the web series, the characters at this stage are exactly like that. They will change, but at this stage of the narrative they are exactly that.
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