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Heh, so Lancer is back: Decent buildup I guess. And classic Rin here:  Seems like we'll get more of the big ass fight next time with Archer. Dat rematch. ARCHER VS LANCER. It's on~ |
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| Wow, Dr.Gil was short. I guess it was more realistic since she was already dead, but DEEN's was really funny. Oh well. Dat Shirou PTSD face. At least he got some time to talk about it this time (not enough). Wow, ufotable did something right, they followed the whole Lancer scene down to the letter. My sides. Gay bulges vs Rho hype! |
KuremisagoApr 25, 2015 8:33 AM
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| Finally Girugamesh reveal. Mai kokoro hurt trying to cover it up *dances* |
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Did they skip the heart breaking scene? I didn't see it. |
fateoffateApr 25, 2015 8:35 AM
| Need subs for most scenes to judge. Doctor Gil felt so rushed...I hope we'll get some more for the BDs? But Lancer was great imo. The face when Shirou thanks Rin...remember it well ;) 4/5 for now,could change after the subs but overall this was gud imo |
_HeroKenzan_Apr 25, 2015 12:59 PM
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| Good adaptation, I think. Will have to see that anime original Archer/Kuzuki talk with subs. |
| Gonna need the subs for some scenes, but VERY good overall. Dat Rin. Dat Lancer. AND OH GOD DAT SHIROU. |
| Very dialogue heavy episode...Gotta wait for the subs to see what the heck was going on xD Glad to see that the Dr.Gil heart thing you guys were talking about was included though :) |
Rin was cute. Ufotable did well this eppy   |
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| This episode was soo guuuud |
| Probably my favorite episode of the second cour so far. Probably because of all of the RANSAH, that smile did more for me physically than Rin ever could. Another week :"( |
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fateoffate said: Did they skip the heart breaking scene? I didn't see it. [img]http://i.imgur.com/lk4zvrX.png[/im g] It was there. Decent ep. Shirou got some internal characterization here, for once, and it lasted some time too, instead of being brushed over in a minute or so, so that's quite an improvement. Still, it was still a little lacking. Exactly what kind of heart was that supposed to be lol? http://40.media.tumblr.com/f60558de73300d33f8db8f1a0cb8d7ef/tumblr_nndbkmVxHE1tgv45uo5_1280.jpg Fairly rushed, though. Anime-original content was good, though only if they contextualize it right next ep, otherwise it'll just be a misinterpretation. Shirou/Rin/Lancer scene was good. 3.5-4/5 overall |
InsertanamehereApr 25, 2015 12:02 PM
mira-nyan said: Rin was cute. Ufotable did well this eppy Rin got destroyed lol Understandable considering all that manliness she was stuck between. |
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Insertanamehere said: fateoffate said: Did they skip the heart breaking scene? I didn't see it. It was there. Thank you Miura and Gilgamesh <3 |
| First half of the episode as HORRIBLY rushed(as an example the first 15 seconds before the OP? That could have been anywhere between 4 and 6 minutes) AS a result the distortion scene is half assed and the flashback REALLY does not do justice to shirou's character or the horrors he has seen in the fire. No wonder people keep claiming that "that fire was not that bad". The pacing issues rear their heads in terms of random mood swing too - one second they are burying a loli and talking about issues and trusting others, the next second - "dont steal my tsundere" comedy. And all filled with generic tsundere abusing generic MC Well at least the ACTUAL "don't steal my tsundere" scene as half decent. Possibly the only decently done part of episode. It will come out of nowhere for anime onlies though as there's ABSOLUTELY no sign of him teasing or trolling Rin before this, so this "change in behavior" is outright jarring for anime onlies. At least it was devoid of generic tsundere violence unlike scenes before that. And now it brings us to the weird part - they rushed the first half as hell. And second half was....nothing but padding of ridiculous cringe pacing, scenery shots, and silence. And we got a WHOLE whopping 1 second of Caster's past, which would have had SOME effect or feels if they actually bothered to show her past instead of gatorade master filler episode. Overall holy shit this was rushed as hell. The tone sways between them burrying Illya and Lancer's scene were beyond hilarious lol. I thought they'd slow down at this point, but NOPE. Can someone explain why they rushed the first half only to pad out the second half of episode then? Holy pacing issues batman. 3/5 |
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| I missed the first half(how'd they do there?),but Cu was great. |
Insertanamehere said: fateoffate said: Did they skip the heart breaking scene? I didn't see it. [img]http://i.imgur.com/lk4zvrX.png[/im g] It was there. Alright ep. Shirou got some internal characterization here, for once, and it lasted some time too, so that's an improvement. Exactly what kind of heart was that supposed to be lol? Fairly rushed, though. And the anime original content seems to include some more of Casters past, seemingly from F/HA, will have to wait for subs to check, though. Rin/Lancer scene was good. 3.5/5 overall In what way was it rushed? They seemed to cover everything from the VN. |
Caliburn220 said: In what way was it rushed? They seemed to cover everything from the VN. The first half till filler might as well been the whole episode. In fact it SHOULD have been the whole episode ending with Lancer's appearance because holy mood swings. The 15 seconds pre op covered something that deserved at least 4 minutes. We got whopping 2 minutes of random fire shots too instead of giving them depth and possibly making up for SOME lack of Shirou's characterization and development. then the second half of episode was padding. |
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| Lancer and Archer on the same screen. Doubting your manliness yet? |
Caliburn220 said: In what way was it rushed? They seemed to cover everything from the VN. Not quite, they missed a few bits and pieces in between, the castle scene and Lancer one, and blondie and Shirou's little confrontation lasted longer as well in the VN. |
astroprogs said: Lancer and Archer on the same screen. Doubting your manliness yet? Having a boner for it literally. I feel even more manly. Manliness +10 |
| Here, have some Ranca goodness: |
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Tokoya said: Glad to see that the Dr.Gil heart thing you guys were talking about was included though :) Compared to DEEN's it felt a bit anticlimactic. I know ufo's version makes much more sense, but still. I need mah over the top edginess :/ Seeing how the rest of the episode was golden in my book (Shirou development and Rin's embarrassment are always welcome lol), I'll let it slide. |
| Pls, the real highlight of this ep wasn't Lancer. It was Shinji. [spoiler]    |
astroprogs said: That I can agree on...But I still liked what they did.....Wasn't over the top and it still portrayed the situation pretty well imoTokoya said: Glad to see that the Dr.Gil heart thing you guys were talking about was included though :) Compared to DEEN's it felt a bit anticlimactic. I know ufo's version makes much more sense, but still. I need mah over the top edginess :/ Seeing how the rest of the episode was golden in my book (Shirou development and Rin's embarrassment are always welcome lol), I'll let it slide. |
Insertanamehere said: Pls, the real highlight of this ep wasn't Lancer. It was Shinji. I loved it every time Rin said Shinji's name, so condescending. It rolled off the tongue beautifully. |
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Insertanamehere said: Pls, the real highlight of this ep wasn't Lancer. It was Shinji. This alongside "dont steal my tsundere" were literally the reason I rated this as high as I did. Best moments. |
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WrongPriest said: mira-nyan said: Here, have some Ranca goodness: HOLD ME BACK *tries best to hold back* Some Aachaa too =3 So, guys, instead of being salty, why don't we discuss how gr8 Garcher and Brolancer are? Daijoubu, Mira has the pics covered =3 |
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| Poor gil, has to wash his clothes again... and even more so his hands! |
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Mini-cyaster is sho cy~uute Even if it's just from the back >u< Me wonders if we get more backstory teasing next eppy. |
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Tokoya said: astroprogs said: That I can agree on...But I still liked what they did.....Wasn't over the top and it still portrayed the situation pretty well imoCompared to DEEN's it felt a bit anticlimactic. I know ufo's version makes much more sense, but still. I need mah over the top edginess :/ Seeing how the rest of the episode was golden in my book (Shirou development and Rin's embarrassment are always welcome lol), I'll let it slide. Yeah, it delivered the message. It's not that Gil is sadistic, it's just that he doesn't give a shit about a non-human puppet. He's still a piece of shit, but now he's an understandable piece of shit lol. |
astroprogs said: It's not that Gil is sadistic. He kinda is though. |
| https://twitter.com/hikaruufo/status/591989054540877824 Does this say five minutes were cut or is bing translate failing me? |
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| Please consider the fact that the 2nd cour will probably have more cut scenes, which may make it seem rushed. Just saying... EDIT: It should be obvious, if you compare the amount of episodes that are being aired in TV. I doubt the 2nd cour would have lesser runtime than the first cour (I am obviously not counting OST as "runtime" in this case) |
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DamnThatsTheSpot said: astroprogs said: It's not that Gil is sadistic. He kinda is though. Yeah, but only towards things he deems beautiful enough to watch burn. He'd have a blast seeing Saber's despair, but wouldn't give a shit about Shirou's, Rin's or any other person's, for example. |
stAtic91 said: https://twitter.com/hikaruufo/status/591989054540877824 Does this say five minutes were cut or is bing translate failing me? I think it says there were five minutes of original content? Or not, can't tell. |
astroprogs said: Lanvidia said: I wish I could hibernate until the next episode. This episode felt like a 5 minute episode. I had to check the clock twice. So much lol, I've watched episodes of Teekyuu that felt longer. 7 freaking days, think of all the real life I have drag myself through to get there :"( |
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astroprogs said: DamnThatsTheSpot said: He kinda is though. Yeah, but only towards things he deems beautiful enough to watch burn. He'd have a blast seeing Saber's despair, but wouldn't give a shit about Shirou's, Rin's or any other person's, for example. Yup, pretty much. He enjoys her struggle to get her goal. And, like, in his life time, he only knew women who longed for him. So, to him, Saber is a Tsundere in a sea of Harem-things. Even tho she actually isn't. :I |
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| I'm just glad they kept Shinji tapping Gil on the shoulder again. Team yuetsu,the second coming |
| Looking at that Caster pic again; she really looks like Argon Coin. O_o Or maybe something is explained in HA about them looking alike...~.~ |
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| Glad they didn;t ruin the whole LANCER teasing. Now the biggest question is if UFO table will give us the DOLPHINS or not |
Insertanamehere said: stAtic91 said: https://twitter.com/hikaruufo/status/591989054540877824 Does this say five minutes were cut or is bing translate failing me? I think it says there were five minutes of original content? Or not, can't tell. A version with an extra 5 minutes will be playing at Machiasobi. So, yes, 5 minutes cut. |
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molassus said: Glad they didn;t ruin the whole LANCER teasing. Now the biggest question is if UFO table will give us the DOLPHINS or not Answer first though. |
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| Lancer BEST F***N BOY!!! I love this guy :D Rin's blushes were adorable <3 They really toned down the Dr.Gil scene huh ^^; Can someone post the old version gif or webm :3 |
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molassus said: Now the biggest question is if UFO table will give us the DOLPHINS or not They keep giving us mixed signals. Dolphins were in the first cour prologue and ending, and... not dolphins in this cour's ending. |
astroprogs said: molassus said: Now the biggest question is if UFO table will give us the DOLPHINS or not They keep giving us mixed signals. Dolphins were in the first cour prologue and ending, and... not dolphins in this cour's ending. Those were not dolphins. I already pointed out that multiple times last cour. Either way I am not really attached to these versions of those characters to care that much. I am not watching this show for generic two MCs lately. I learned my lesson not to expect depth from this. I am watching Just for certain fights, so I am okay with either. |
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