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Feb 19, 2015 3:56 PM
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I don't read the manga, but I don't feel any sympathy for him since season 1, for me he just one of those MC that you can't like...I think that many other characters are more interesting than him.

So here comes the poll, I will put just 2 options: like or don't like, won't put stuff like: I wish he could die, just coz I wish it lol
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Feb 19, 2015 3:59 PM
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Yeah I totally agree with U. Jason is more interesting and bad-ass than him

lol Kaneki pussy for 11 episodes and 20 minutes
Badass for 4 minutes
Then it ends (Season 1)

Jason is love - Jason is life.

If he didn't torture him. he should still be a boring character

Feb 20, 2015 3:08 AM
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Yes, just like that!
Feb 20, 2015 5:37 AM
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I don't read the manga, but I don't feel any sympathy for him since season 1, for me he just one of those MC that you can't like...I think that many other characters are more interesting than him.

Those 5k MAL users who added him as their favorite must be complete idiots right? And since you haven't read the manga, then that's your own problem because majority of the manga readers have liked Kaneki.

(inb4 I'm labelled as a manga purist).


So here comes the poll, I will put just 2 options: like or don't like, won't put stuff like: I wish he could die, just coz I wish it lol
May your wish be granted then.
Feb 20, 2015 5:40 AM
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Nuvi said:
bittersweetlove said:
I don't read the manga, but I don't feel any sympathy for him since season 1, for me he just one of those MC that you can't like...I think that many other characters are more interesting than him.

Those 5k MAL users who added him as their favorite must be complete idiots right? And since you haven't read the manga, then that's your own problem because majority of the manga readers have liked Kaneki.

(inb4 I'm labelled as a manga purist).


So here comes the poll, I will put just 2 options: like or don't like, won't put stuff like: I wish he could die, just coz I wish it lol
May your wish be granted then.

All of this^. Can't said it any better :3

Feb 20, 2015 5:40 AM
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How could anyone not like him?
Feb 20, 2015 5:40 AM
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Ive read the mainguh and am watching root A and still think hes a boring character
Feb 20, 2015 5:41 AM
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he bores me to death!
Feb 20, 2015 5:42 AM
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I want to wrap him in blankets as he needs to be protected.
People calling him 'weak' or a 'pussy' before he goes all badass and white hair always annoyed me, as before he was a sweet boy who cared for people despite the pain he was going through. Like, he was turned into a human eating monster for christ sake.
Feb 20, 2015 5:42 AM

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root a ruined his character
Feb 20, 2015 5:45 AM

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PhantomL said:
I want to wrap him in blankets as he needs to be protected.
People calling him 'weak' or a 'pussy' before he goes all badass and white hair always annoyed me, as before he was a sweet boy who cared for people despite the pain he was going through. Like, he was turned into a human eating monster for christ sake.

It wouldve been better if the author didnt kill off his entire family beforehand and if he had more than one human friend so he could have more valid reasons for wanting to be human again
Feb 20, 2015 5:51 AM

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PhantomL said:
I want to wrap him in blankets as he needs to be protected.
People calling him 'weak' or a 'pussy' before he goes all badass and white hair always annoyed me, as before he was a sweet boy who cared for people despite the pain he was going through. Like, he was turned into a human eating monster for christ sake.

It wouldve been better if the author didnt kill off his entire family beforehand and if he had more than one human friend so he could have more valid reasons for wanting to be human again
But he still wanted to reclaim his human nature wherein he enter a period of 'soul-searching', something which will be highlighted in the last arc of the story. Every fan's admiration for him was renewed in the last arc where he got his characterization to the fullest.
Feb 20, 2015 6:02 AM

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Nuvi said:
bittersweetlove said:
I don't read the manga, but I don't feel any sympathy for him since season 1, for me he just one of those MC that you can't like...I think that many other characters are more interesting than him.

Those 5k MAL users who added him as their favorite must be complete idiots right? And since you haven't read the manga, then that's your own problem because majority of the manga readers have liked Kaneki.


lol she just stated her opinion and clarified that she doesn't read the manga..tbh, if I wasn't reading the manga too (which I am and he is in my favorite characters), I probably wouldnt have liked him either. While reading it you know how he feels and what he thinks, but if you solely watch root a, there's almost no development for him. We have barely seen him talking, interacting with others or having monologues. So I think not liking him is somewhat justified.
Feb 20, 2015 6:11 AM

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Nuvi said:

Those 5k MAL users who added him as their favorite must be complete idiots right? And since you haven't read the manga, then that's your own problem because majority of the manga readers have liked Kaneki.


lol she just stated her opinion and clarified that she doesn't read the manga..tbh, if I wasn't reading the manga too (which I am and he is in my favorite characters), I probably wouldnt have liked him either. While reading it you know how he feels and what he thinks, but if you solely watch root a, there's almost no development for him. We have barely seen him talking, interacting with others or having monologues. So I think not liking him is somewhat justified.
Reread my post again. She said that Kaneki is one of the MCs you can't like. I just stated the obvious fact. I don't give a fuck or two about whether that person likes Kaneki or not, all I did was prove him/her wrong by telling them how many people liked Kaneki.

And yeah, I agree with what you said about Root A giving less characterization to Kaneki. Kaneki's characterization all depends on Studio Perriot's efforts to include them or not. So that's another thing.
Feb 20, 2015 6:23 AM

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lol she just stated her opinion and clarified that she doesn't read the manga..tbh, if I wasn't reading the manga too (which I am and he is in my favorite characters), I probably wouldnt have liked him either. While reading it you know how he feels and what he thinks, but if you solely watch root a, there's almost no development for him. We have barely seen him talking, interacting with others or having monologues. So I think not liking him is somewhat justified.
Reread my post again. She said that Kaneki is one of the MCs you can't like. I just stated the obvious fact. I don't give a fuck or two about whether that person likes Kaneki or not, all I did was prove him/her wrong by telling them how many people liked Kaneki.

And yeah, I agree with what you said about Root A giving less characterization to Kaneki. Kaneki's characterization all depends on Studio Perriot's efforts to include them or not. So that's another thing.


I read the post, what I meant to say is that she said for me he is the kind of mc you can't like. So it was stated from the beginning that it was her opinion. Anyway, it was not my intention to defend or anything.
I think his characterization will improve later on..I just checked that the guy who directed episodes 1 and 12 from season 1 is in the staff of root a, so he probably will be in charge of the last episodes which will have Kaneki on the spotlight.
Feb 20, 2015 6:29 AM

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Whether that was her opinion or not, it still doesn't changes the fact that there are many people, both inside and outside Japan who love Kaneki's character. It's her opinion that is wrong and all I did was to correct her.

Yeah everyone's well wishing for Morita to work for the last two episodes.
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Feb 20, 2015 11:17 AM

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Nuvi said:
there are many people, both inside and outside Japan who love Kaneki's character. It's her opinion that is wrong and all I did was to correct her.


lol what
there is no correct 'opinion'
just because lots of people like kaneki doesnt mean hes an objectively amazing character, thats like saying I cant call elfen lied shit because thousands of other people like it so it can never be bad
Feb 20, 2015 11:33 AM

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lol what
there is no correct 'opinion'
just because lots of people like kaneki doesnt mean hes an objectively amazing character, thats like saying I cant call elfen lied shit because thousands of other people like it so it can never be bad

Yeah likewise. Just because you read the manga and watched root A and still think Kaneki is a boring character doesn't mean he actually is.
Feb 20, 2015 11:40 AM

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marriage said:
lol what
there is no correct 'opinion'
just because lots of people like kaneki doesnt mean hes an objectively amazing character, thats like saying I cant call elfen lied shit because thousands of other people like it so it can never be bad

Yeah likewise. Just because you read the manga and watched root A and still think Kaneki is a boring character doesn't mean he actually is.

What is the point of your response? Have I ever said my opinion is a universal fact? No
Are you guys incapable of accepting that there are people who dont like tokyo ghoul or what?
Feb 20, 2015 11:46 AM

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Yeah likewise. Just because you read the manga and watched root A and still think Kaneki is a boring character doesn't mean he actually is.

What is the point of your response? Have I ever said my opinion is a universal fact? No
Are you guys incapable of accepting that there are people who dont like tokyo ghoul or what?

I was just merely stating facts. Nothing to get mad over.
Feb 20, 2015 12:24 PM

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I don't read the manga, but I don't feel any sympathy for him since season 1, for me he just one of those MC that you can't like...I think that many other characters are more interesting than him.

Those 5k MAL users who added him as their favorite must be complete idiots right? And since you haven't read the manga, then that's your own problem because majority of the manga readers have liked Kaneki.

(inb4 I'm labelled as a manga purist).


So here comes the poll, I will put just 2 options: like or don't like, won't put stuff like: I wish he could die, just coz I wish it lol
May your wish be granted then.


There's many other characters that more than 5K users like, not only myself, like others doesn't like...it's not coz I like someone that everyone needs to, the same for not liking someone...also, don't care about the manga, and not everyone watching it is reading...

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Nuvi said:
there are many people, both inside and outside Japan who love Kaneki's character. It's her opinion that is wrong and all I did was to correct her.


lol what
there is no correct 'opinion'
just because lots of people like kaneki doesnt mean hes an objectively amazing character, thats like saying I cant call elfen lied shit because thousands of other people like it so it can never be bad


I agree with you, I don't like many "classics" that people seems to love, but I am not rude with people because of it, like Nuve did...
Feb 20, 2015 12:48 PM

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So far he's been pretty awful, they haven't given him enough dialogue/monologue for me to give a shit about him. It's an embarressment to his S1 character
Feb 20, 2015 2:09 PM

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Before said:
How could anyone not like him?


and i still cant get what do people want from a character?

he is kind.
he is polite.
he is thoughtful.
he is cute.
he is quiet.
he likes reading.

what do you want? boring? 0_0 you dont know the meaning of boring, then. he is one of the most tidal character i have ever seen. i mean, look at ichigo. look at naruto. they have only one aim and obstinate to do make one thing. but kaneki still has a search about what to do. and this anime tells us this story, this search.

the real problem is you want some comedy in anime. but tokyo ghoul is not shounen, so dont blame kaneki.

okay, you dont like kaneki, but to call him boring... sorry but this is an absurd comment . or this is not a comment, just prejudice.
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Feb 20, 2015 5:17 PM

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Anime only viewer.

I liked Kaneki since season 1. He is a nice person and everything ftayzc said. I feel sorry for him because he is going through something dramatic.

I have stated this numerous times on the forums: people on MAL are way too hard on Kaneki.
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Feb 20, 2015 5:20 PM
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Manga Kaneki or Anime Kaneki?

there is a huge difference between these two
Manga Kaneki is one of my favourite anime protags

Anime Kaneki pales in comparison but thats Studio Pierrots fault
Feb 20, 2015 9:55 PM

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I love Kaneki's character, though that might be because I'm a manga reader. Having read the Manga, you get a more in depth view of how he changes from a quiet person to a badass. Perhaps the anime is just downplaying his character, which is why you dislike his person.
Feb 21, 2015 4:38 AM

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Where's the I love him to pieces option?
Feb 21, 2015 7:03 AM

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I love the character but Black haired Ken > White haired Ken so far.
Feb 21, 2015 11:27 AM
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I like him but I really wish I'd see some more Hide screentime. You could call it love at first sight lol but I really loved Hide from what we saw at the begining and it seems he still has a role to take in the show though so I just hope it's an actual role and not just going to be used to move the plot.
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Where's the I love him to pieces option?
Feb 21, 2015 12:41 PM

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I like him alot, but i seem to enjoy watching him get owned almost as much as i enjoy him being the one to own.

That's probably because alot of the Kaneki fanboys are getting on my nerves. Literally every second complaint about both √A and :re is that Kaneki has nowhere near the screen time he did in Season 1 and TG respectively. One of the stronger points of the series is that not only the main character is compelling, but everyone's making it out as the complete opposite, as if Kaneki is the only good thing about TG, which isn't the case at all.

In summation, while watching Kaneki get beat i imagine some hardcore fanboy going like ''Nooo, not my Centipede-chan!1!! ;('' or some crap like that and it makes my day. However, i also enjoy him destroying his opponents and having screentime, since he is a badass and truly an amazing character.
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Feb 21, 2015 2:40 PM

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One of the stronger points of the series is that not only the main character is compelling, but everyone's making it out as the complete opposite, as if Kaneki is the only good thing about TG, which isn't the case at all.


I agree with you, Kaneki is not the only thing in TG, and I get your whole point.
Feb 22, 2015 7:52 AM

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I'm of the belief that like the way Ishida seems to do thing. He's saving kaneki for last in development. Last season he didn't get a big change till the end. Why can't that happen this season too?
Feb 22, 2015 8:01 AM

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Nuvi said:
there are many people, both inside and outside Japan who love Kaneki's character. It's her opinion that is wrong and all I did was to correct her.


lol what
there is no correct 'opinion'
just because lots of people like kaneki doesnt mean hes an objectively amazing character, thats like saying I cant call elfen lied shit because thousands of other people like it so it can never be bad


Opinions can be wrong. The correct term to be used here is "taste", not opinion.

And Elfen Lied is indeed bad. The manga, on the other hand is great (this is the same case with Tokyo Ghoul).


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You can't call an anime shit without explaining yourself, but started like this no one would listen you. The reason for this is that calling something shit can't be objective, it's a hateful remarks which one can do without.

@Gamer6 No, opinions are neither right neither wrong, that's why we call them opinions. You give your opinion, you listen to others' opinions. You can say whether you agree with an opinion or not but you can't say that it is wrong or right. There's a nuance.
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I dont think I truly like any more important character. The owls is cool and that soldier guy with missing hair, that travels around with the white haired edgy twat. Damn I cant remember names at all. The violet haired blood stained tissue sniffer guy straddles the line between obnoxious and funny because of his madness.
Yeah thats about it. Not much to like when all of them are pretty much sick in the head. In a bad way. Except for viollet blood stained tissue sniffer guy. He is kinda funny in his madness.

Oh and that guy with the big qinque that splits in two, he is pretty cool too. Bascially I like the most normal characters in this show, the others are too edgy or sick in the head.
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He's a slightly slightly slightly better character than Yukiteru Amano
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He's a slightly slightly better character than Yukiteru Amano


oh, c'mon... yukiteru amano ??? kaneki ken??? please, dont compare them. i just hate one of them, and i looooove one of them. please ... there are a LOT of differences between them.
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He's a slightly slightly better character than Yukiteru Amano


oh, c'mon... yukiteru amano ??? kaneki ken??? please, dont compare them. i just hate one of them, and i looooove one of them. please ... there are a LOT of differences between them.
I suppose you're talking about manga Kaneki? Because so far there haven't been many differences between him and Shittyteru in the anime
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@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
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Feb 23, 2015 1:38 PM

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He's a pretty decent character. Although I like him slightly more in the manga.
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I like him but disappointed with his character development.
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I think you can tell from my avatar on how I feel about Kaneki. Sweet Harmonies!

Jokes aside, Kaneki is one of my favorite MCs ever. Anime only viewers may not find him awesome (thanks for Pierrot), but if you read the manga, you'd know how much of a great character he is.

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oh, c'mon... yukiteru amano ??? kaneki ken??? please, dont compare them. i just hate one of them, and i looooove one of them. please ... there are a LOT of differences between them.
I suppose you're talking about manga Kaneki? Because so far there haven't been many differences between him and Shittyteru in the anime


Manga Kaneki is one of my favourite protags ever (I hate pussy characters like Shinji from NGE or Yuki from Mirai Nikki too)
he has such great character development

But if I was only watching the anime I would be probably agree
they have shown no character development in shitty route a so far

still Yuki? Even Anime Kaneki isn't that horrible
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Kaneki kind of reminds me of Itachi since both of them are torn between choosing a side.Itachi between family and village.Kaneki between eating and staying human.I like Itachi,so I like Kaneki.Pretty weird logic but yea.
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I like him but he could have been a better character if they developed him really well.
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I've actually liked him more on √A compared to his S1(he complains too much tbh).

I do wish he talk a lot, but i'm fine the way he is. Not to mention actions speaks louder than words.

I do admit, at first i thought he was going to be like Hei from Darker than Black, especially with his mask and all.

He may not be on par with Hei, but's he's good on his own.

After √A, i do plan on reading the manga and see how it ends cause i'm not sure if they plan on making S3.
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Kaneki did nothing everything wrong.
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I suppose you're talking about manga Kaneki? Because so far there haven't been many differences between him and Shittyteru in the anime


Manga Kaneki is one of my favourite protags ever (I hate pussy characters like Shinji from NGE or Yuki from Mirai Nikki too)
he has such great character development

But if I was only watching the anime I would be probably agree
they have shown no character development in shitty route a so far

still Yuki? Even Anime Kaneki isn't that horrible


just realize kaneki wasnt that sheepish, asocial, coward and weak even at first. (thats for comic san) there is quite a big difference between being sheepish and gentle. i mean ... just remember the first season, when gourmet arc was going on, he fought and protect himself... i think thats a big difference. c'mon... that coward amano yukiteru.. please...

and kaneki got tortured, people. i dont know if you remember that. barely they dont show kaneki to us in anime but if you think, you can understand his situation a little.
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I liked Kaneki since season 1. He is a nice person and everything ftayzc said. I feel sorry for him because he is going through something dramatic.


This. I also only watched the anime, and I really liked Kaneki is the 1st season. He's a nice and friendly boy. Quite and cute :3
And he's growing throughout the series. At the end of S1, he experienced some very horrible things, so it's only understandable that he's a bit lost at the moment. But unlike Jason, he's still him. I'm curious to see how he develops.
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root a ruined his character


i agree. i don't like kaneki in root a as much as i liked him in season 1. and neither compare to how much i liked him in the manga. maybe its cause they diverted from the source material in root a, but i think they are rushing the story too much and a lot of good character development from the manga is being ignored. not just for kaneki but for some of the other characters as well (like seriously what are they even doing with tsukiyama?).

in season one kaneki was really gentle and naive, one may call him weak, but that was understandable, that was who he was, and everything he did made sense. but in root a im having trouble trying to understand why he is doing what he is doing and it is all kind of confusing and not well explained. am i the only one who thinks this? maybe as the season progresses they will make things clearer and give him the character development he needs to be a stronger, more realistic character like he was in the manga.
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