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Oct 24, 2013 10:14 AM
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Akira :3

Kinda nice to see L-elf's past I guess. He seems quite different from who he is now. I went wtf when Saki got shot though. The fuck..

Dorssia soldiers are violent no matter how young they are wow. Holy shit L-Elf. Did you just shoot...
Wow. Dat ending. WTF.
Oct 24, 2013 10:17 AM
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MARIE NOOOOOooh what the fuck
Oct 24, 2013 10:18 AM
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Damn, what a crazy ending to this episode.
Oct 24, 2013 11:19 AM
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This week on Valvrave: "People DON'T die if they are killed..." Glorious. I'm so in love with this series :D
Oct 24, 2013 11:24 AM
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The place where Elf guy was "build", and his kouhai... That girl who is friend of childhood girl is also not human like the main guy and it has something to do with knowing the soul of Valvrave since 5 years ago.
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Oct 24, 2013 11:42 AM
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I had a feeling that she was gonna get up after getting shot.
Oct 24, 2013 12:17 PM
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babymilo91 said:
I had a feeling that she was gonna get up after getting shot.

Yep, same here. What was more surprising was when she got shot by L-Elf :3, didn't expect that. But yeah, finally some action with L-Elf, and this was a good episode overall.
Oct 24, 2013 12:23 PM
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Nice Marie is a valvrave pilot too :P Now we know who'll be piloting unit 2 :)

Really nice episode with some backstory on Eruerufu!
Hope to see how this plot twist is going to turn out and I love how they did it at end. Can't wait for the next episode!!
Oct 24, 2013 12:23 PM
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lmao this episode. soo predictable and yet so much fun to watch.
Oct 24, 2013 12:51 PM

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Kid at the beginning is most likely L-elf and Liselotte's son.

Oh and Marie... were you Pino's original pilot?

The ED is starting to grow on me, but "Boku Ja Nai" is still number one :)
Oct 24, 2013 1:08 PM

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Holy shit! It really got real there. And I'm actually enjoying this series now and not just as a guilty pleasure. Really great improvement.

Those flash forwards keep getting me more and more hyped to see what happens at the end. Renbo is immortal? Whose kid is that??? L-Elf's hair and Haruto's looks? Whose the dad?? O_o?

The infiltration was awesome! L-Elf is really BOSS! Kicking those kids asses like the BA he is.

The part with Marie and Pino peaked my interest and then Bam shot in the friggin head O_O!! I don't know why but I felt L-Elf will shoot her at the moment.

And her knowing Pino...seems like she was a Kamitsuki since 5 years ago? Pretty nice twist there.

Also seems like Yamada and the others are in a pinch. Dorssia's new suits look pretty awesome.
Oct 24, 2013 1:09 PM

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Tengoku_no_hakai said:
Kid at the beginning is most likely L-elf and Liselotte's son.

Oh and Marie... were you Pino's original pilot?

The ED is starting to grow on me, but "Boku Ja Nai" is still number one :)


That is a 200 years timeskip. Somehow I doubt it is a son.
Oct 24, 2013 1:13 PM

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Tengoku_no_hakai said:
Kid at the beginning is most likely L-elf and Liselotte's son.


But that kid has blue eyes and not pink like Liesolette. I think its a being created from Haruto's and L Elf's DNA.

Cause he has Haruto's eyes/similar facial structure and L Elf's hairstyle/color.
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Oct 24, 2013 1:20 PM
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When marie got shot I wasn't surprised which surprised me that I wasn't. I am exoecting a lot of teammates to die so I guess thats why.
Oct 24, 2013 1:27 PM

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Uhhhhhhhh
Oct 24, 2013 1:40 PM

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They don't stop to shock us with endings. really
Oct 24, 2013 1:47 PM

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Wow, I really thought that Marie got killed. I guess she's a Kamitsuki too.
Lol at Saki getting shot by that kid. We already knew she was gonna heal anyways
Oct 24, 2013 2:05 PM

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So its safe to say Marie was a test-pilot for the Valvraves? And the reset made her lose her memories since pilots are tied to the mechs?
Oct 24, 2013 2:06 PM

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YES, this Thunda vs Twin Drills banter. PLEASE SUNRISE, PLEEEASE LET THEM BE A COUPLE.

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Oct 24, 2013 2:10 PM

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I wonder if L-Elf knows anything about Marie, or if he was just being his usual cold self. That shot was a surprise though, unlike Marie getting up afterwards.

The timeskip just got more interesting. Maybe the kid's appearance has something to do with the amount of blood Haruto has taken(and will keep taking) from L-Elf.
Oct 24, 2013 2:38 PM

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Sometimes, I really wonder why I'm still watching this show... Neither the plot nor the characters are logical, yet I can't help but laugh at how random some of the developments are. For Christ's sake, L-Elf shot someone just because she was about to learn of Haruto's secret -- that was rash to the point of idiotic. Then again, it seems like people don't die when they're shot in this anime, so I guess there's nothing to worry about. :p

Oct 24, 2013 2:42 PM

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I don't know if it's just me but I'm starting to consider Valvrave a good show, the animation and music are both very good as well as the story being interesting. On top of that Trollko is barely in it anymore.

Eru-eruff can't do no wrong for me, if it's not chocking out little kids it's shooting Marie in the head. For some reason I've got no problem with him doing all of that because he's like the voice of reason in this show.
Oct 24, 2013 3:19 PM

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Haruto planning on screwing up the whole mission cuz Marie was in his valvrave. Good thinking, idiot.
Oct 24, 2013 3:36 PM
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A lot of things happened as always. Too many to mention each one. Seems like they end up establishing an empire and a religion in the future. That prince and L-elf looked alike. Maybe he is his son? It was shocking at the end. That zombie Marie is a kamitsuki? Looked like both Haruto and L-elf were surprised to see her coming back to life.

I like L-elf. He carries out his mission without getting swayed by emotion. This type of character is rare in anime. He is one of my few favorite characters in all anime. A bit reminds me of Oberstein from LoGH.
Oct 24, 2013 3:37 PM

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Whats with the time-skip are they possibly telling the story to that kid?

So Marie is one of them, I have to agree with the other people she was probably a test pilot.
Oct 24, 2013 4:05 PM

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L-elf don't fuck around.
I guess in this season we still get those random future moments. Wonder who kid is that? Was Marie Pino friend or Pilot five years ago. I think she might be a vampire, or have a thick skull. Looks like Dorssian got some new toys and they are packing some heat. Can't wait for next episode.
Oct 24, 2013 4:34 PM

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Lmao its sad that i predicted that she would be fine. They couldn't do that at this point. That was one of the worst ED sequences with a great song. Shame on them!!
Oct 24, 2013 4:43 PM

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NOOO that was too short!!!
8/10 for this ep.

Marie kaihou? So she's a spy?
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Oct 24, 2013 4:56 PM

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WELL. BACK TO THE RAVING IT IS.

Well, way to ruin the ED song which I really like with that shitty ED sequence.
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Oct 24, 2013 4:57 PM

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So any idea as to who the kid is at the beginning? I don't think it's Haruto's (unless his body got so messed up and had to become L-elf) He might be related to L-Elf and someone else...clearly not Rukino's kid since she called him your highness.

But then why is Satomi still alive!?

Did everyone become a vampire? I just want RukinoxHaruto

So confusing
Oct 24, 2013 4:59 PM

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episode was boss even though i knew they wouldn't die both those shots caught me off guard lol

liking how Marie is having deeper roots to all of this.
Oct 24, 2013 5:33 PM

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Man, things are getting good again. The ridiculous plot twists and over-the-top narm where the only things that made this show worth watching, and the last few episodes didn't have much of either of those. Glad to see it's still going to be the same show.

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Haruto planning on screwing up the whole mission cuz Marie was in his valvrave. Good thinking, idiot.


You're implying that he thinks at all.
Oct 24, 2013 5:43 PM

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This episode has too many plot twist, I can't stop thinking what will happened and revealing the mysteries.

L-elf is really cool! He amazes me all the time!

Probably L-elf knows that Marie is immortal, probably he predicted it :))

This anime always surprises me. :)

love the ending song <3
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Oct 24, 2013 5:50 PM
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lmao this episode. soo predictable and yet so much fun to watch.

When Marie was shot, I was waiting for her to get up, and what do you know, she did. Probably because she was Pino's "friend," from there is was obvious something was up. I was still a little surprised though when she was shot out of nowhere, honestly didn't expect that. I'm liking this season much better than the first, probably because I'm not seeing so much Shouko so far. The mysteries are quite interesting too. I liked L-elf's flashback, they were such cute kids back then, and L-elf even cracked a joke.
Oct 24, 2013 6:17 PM

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Yes, the plot is ridiculuos but I think this series is starting to be genuinely good (for me at least) :D
Oct 24, 2013 6:23 PM

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Fate/Stay Night: "People DIE if they are killed!"

Well, fuck you logic. Throw you out the window.
Oct 24, 2013 7:20 PM

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HAHA. jesus was i the only person who was like YESSSS! when l-elf shot her. fucking nosy bitch, jesus. yamada is annoying as fuck too. same with haruto - like get on with your mission jesus. ...and then it turns out she didnt die. god dammit.
Oct 24, 2013 7:25 PM
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This shit is awesome lol. Honestly I don't know how anyone could not enjoy this, it's one of those things that is just so entertaining you can look past everything it does wrong. The scene where Rukino got shot was awesome to.
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Oct 24, 2013 7:55 PM

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I had a feeling that she was gonna get up after getting shot.

Yep, same here. What was more surprising was when she got shot by L-Elf :3, didn't expect that. But yeah, finally some action with L-Elf, and this was a good episode overall.
I saw both coming, L-Elf was actually the least surprising considering how trigger happy he has presented himself in the past.

also, Yamada aka "Thunder" reminds me a lot of Kamina.
Oct 24, 2013 7:59 PM

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I--I don't understand why Haruto couldn't have just told Marie that everyone's life was on balance and that he needed to go on his mission. But I imagine that Marie is the person that Saki was referring to at the very beginning of the episode -- the first to ever become a Kamitsuki. That's interesting. Watch her be a decisive factor in turning this battle around. This series started off not making sense, but slowly everything's kind of coming together.

I wonder whose child "the prince" is though. He seems to have a mixture of L-Elf's hair and Haruto's eyes...I can't imagine where this is going.

And guys, remember when Shouko used to matter? Yeah, the good old times...
Oct 24, 2013 8:07 PM

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I--I don't understand why Haruto couldn't have just told Marie that everyone's life was on balance and that he needed to go on his mission. But I imagine that Marie is the person that Saki was referring to at the very beginning of the episode -- the first to ever become a Kamitsuki. That's interesting. Watch her be a decisive factor in turning this battle around. This series started off not making sense, but slowly everything's kind of coming together.

I wonder whose child "the prince" is though. He seems to have a mixture of L-Elf's hair and Haruto's eyes...I can't imagine where this is going.

And guys, remember when Shouko used to matter? Yeah, the good old times...


Same here. I also thought that Marie is the first Kamitsuki since she's somewhat really important in this episode. I am kinda expecting her to get up because yeah, all that clues regarding Pino knowing her. But L-elf shooting her head out of nowhere really shocked the hell out of me.

I also wonder if they all turned out to be immortal, given the Renbokoji is still alive after so many years. Hmmm...

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Oct 24, 2013 8:09 PM
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This show is transcendental. I don't try to understand it anymore.
Oct 24, 2013 8:14 PM

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yay, the ass pulls are back, and L-Elf being awesome again :D
Oct 24, 2013 8:21 PM
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Question... Why was Satomi in the timeskip?
Oct 24, 2013 8:32 PM

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For Christ's sake, L-Elf shot someone just because she was about to learn of Haruto's secret -- that was rash to the point of idiotic.

Actually, given L-Elf's characterization thus far, it'd be a surprise if he didn't do anything drastic. If Haruto and company's secret had gotten out, it's very possible that overall morale would sink, not to mention that this kind of revelation might hurt their cause in the international arena. Maybe it could've turned out alright. But L-Elf has never been a person that leaves out risk factors. I'd actually have been shocked if he'd just showed up and tried to resolve this diplomatically. There's too much at stake here.

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Question... Why was Satomi in the timeskip?

Either he becomes a Valvrave pilot, which I doubt, or he's simply one of many people who get turned later on. He's useful, after all. The reason I doubt that he ends up being a Valvrave pilot is that Akira evidently became the prince's godmother (presumably because she's a pilot), whereas he isn't a godfather or anything.
Oct 24, 2013 8:35 PM

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Laraid said:
Question... Why was Satomi in the timeskip?
he's most likely immortal by then.. which brings in to question how many immortal dudes there are in the future..

anyway, if that kid's godmother is a Renbokoji other than Satomi, which means it has got to be Akira, is Shouko related to the kid?

this episode from the very start has all the clues pointing at Marie, the first Kamitsuki since 5 yrs ago, that her rising up is not surprising since it was actually foreshadowed and is of course not an ass pull.. is this show becoming more and more legit while retaining all the trainwreck megatweest potential?

also, why is Saki and Akira the ones chosen for the mission, you may ask? Akira is the obvious one because she's a good hacker.. while Saki is best actress.. man, Saki is really becoming a real favorite for me..
Oct 24, 2013 8:36 PM

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I surprise that even Satomi survives the next 200 years, I thought that only valvrave's pilots can survive.

People really can't be judge by their characters. I never thought that Marie is immortal too.
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Oct 24, 2013 8:39 PM

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Seeing L-elf past woah that is harsh
Those kids are scary
I must say the " She " in the beginning mentioned with the little boy and Saki , man who is that " She"

If Haruto didn't go with the plan L- elf is beast fighting the kids
But that shot to Marie scared me and and I didn't expect it from him
Shock ending love the new ending song!!
Oct 24, 2013 9:03 PM

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lol lots of girls get shot without notice in this episode
Oct 24, 2013 9:32 PM

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After seeing the conversation between Marie and Pino, I was very curious to know the past of Marie five years ago.
Dat ending..

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