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Dec 10, 2008 5:09 AM
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Oh ho, staffs upgraded so it uses cartridges too now.
Jul 21, 2009 3:03 PM
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Marek92 said:
I really like fate's transformation xD

Well, Nanoha's transformation isn't bad either but... yeah. 8D
Jul 31, 2009 6:09 AM
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eek, I dont want to see them nude XD

but Fate's transformation was more badass than Nanoha's
even so I like Nanoha's device more because of its voice

I wish they will now wipe the floor with the "Wolkenritter" gang
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Aug 14, 2009 8:55 AM
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Chrono's stinger blade execution shift looks powerful and sounds powerful but its kinda pathetic =.=
Mar 15, 2010 10:53 AM
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so Fate and Nanoha are now Velka-type knights
that means cooler fight scenes and better magic displays
and I dont really want to see them nude so I dont care for the transformation scenes, but I liked the new ribbon-like magic that encircled them.
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Jun 17, 2010 12:08 AM
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I spoke too soon...there are still awkward stops in the music in this season.

I'm looking forward to the battle next episode, now that they are powered up.
Jul 26, 2010 12:08 AM
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Suddenly I'm a big fan of Fate... huh, wonder why that happened.
Oct 4, 2010 9:07 AM
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Again with the transformation sequences, only this time they're even longer. -_-

Decent enough episode, not enough action I guess. Oh well, next one looks good.
Dec 20, 2010 8:44 AM
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The transformation scene took up like 3 minutes' time of the whole episode. At least Fate's new transform was totally badass. I mean, the music and all that.
Apr 8, 2011 12:18 AM

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Uh-oh stuff just got serious!!!!
Cool upgrades
I like Fate’s better!!! Hehe
Jun 10, 2011 4:18 AM

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Fabienne said:
eek, I dont want to see them nude XD

Fate's transformation was more badass than Nanoha's


Well there's nothing to compare because fate's transformation meant to be badass and nanoha is more like cutesy. BadassXcutesy always compliment
that's why I think Raging Hearto and Bardiche would make a great couple xD

and yeah I also don't want to see them nude
it's a minus points for fate and nanoha ><
Aug 10, 2011 1:10 PM
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Fate's transformation scene was epic win.
Nov 11, 2011 9:52 PM

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A lot more nudity in the transformations than I'd expect... But except for that the transformations are pretty cool. Very Sailor Moon like, especially in the case of Nanoha. Ribbons wrap around her to form her uniform, and the ribbon around her neck and the hair ties are the last part of the transformation. :)

Love the upgrades to Raging Heart and Bardiche, though I would like to have seen a little change to Fate and Nanoha's uniforms...

Feb 4, 2012 8:14 PM

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still not a large fan of transformation scenes, but this one wasnt too bad, cept for loli nudes which is a bit of a turn off for me =/
Jul 6, 2013 1:48 PM

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Finally, I get to see Fate's transformation scene. It was worth it.
Oct 29, 2013 2:50 AM

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If what Fate is saying turn out to be true, that she didn't detect evil intent on Signum when she fought with her, then whatever it is they're doing must have something to do with Hayate?

New systems, new names, actually just longer names. LOL I like that the cartridge system designs of Raising Heart and Bardiche were different from each other. Raising Heart Excelion's cartridge load looks like the curved magazine of an AK-47 while Bardiche Assault resemble the revolver type in pistols. XD
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Dec 8, 2013 9:37 PM

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Good stuff. The transformation scenes were pretty good. And it's not like they do them every episode, they usually just show it once then do it instantly for the rest of the show, with a few instances here and there. Very much worth it.
Dec 30, 2013 6:17 PM

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The teasing between Chrono and Amy was the best thing this episode. Chrono reaching for the juice box, and Amy casually moving it ouf his reach. I expected him to simply adjust his arm after processing what just happened, but he got up and grabbed one for himself...too bad.
Mar 21, 2014 11:20 PM

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The teasing between Chrono and Amy was the best thing this episode. Chrono reaching for the juice box, and Amy casually moving it ouf his reach. I expected him to simply adjust his arm after processing what just happened, but he got up and grabbed one for himself...too bad.

And what made it funnier was the serious "something bad is going to happen" atmosphere XD Reminds me of that one scene in season 1 where Chrono pulled out a hairspray and combed Amy's hair to get rid of her bed hair.

Fate's transformation is really something :p
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Jul 6, 2014 7:51 AM

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That transformation scene! Pretty great episode.
Jul 11, 2014 5:09 AM

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Those transformation scenes with loli nudity were awesome! ;D
Aug 19, 2019 2:03 PM

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Em.. It's worrying that Nanoha and Fate didn't learn more, how their companions changed..
I just hope that Heart and Bardish aren't under influence of some virus or something.. But man.. Probably we won't learn about it for long, and it'll bite in the ass all the time.. As.. As they just tell that Heart and Bardish wished for changed with all their feelings.. It can be so, but I beware about that.. I'd want to be spoiled on that, rather than wait a season or two for answer..
Jul 5, 2024 10:27 PM

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When you see Hayate & the knight's together you would think that they are a normal functioning family, Fate has joined the same class as the other 3, they get to be together a lot more from now on.

Shamal can make more cartridges when required, it's a big help for them but a big hassle for our magical girls, they are taking down large beasts in order to fill more pages so they will need those spares.

Hayate's condition according to the doctor is a pretty bad one, sad to see someone like that suffering so much.

Chrono attacking both Vita & Zafira, the best part of course is when Fate & Nanoha show up and set up for the first time with the new forms of Raising Heart & Bardiche.
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Wheelchair girl continues to be intriguing! Every single scene of her at home seems to highlight her competence and independence, and I feel more and more convinced that the knights are trying to use the Book of Darkness to "cure" her disability without realizing that she wouldn't want them to do that, especially not at the cost of what they're doing to innocent people - and that at some point she might find out about all of this and be very upset with them about it!

What I find most intriguing though is the hospital scene. I really couldn't figure out how she was feeling while talking with the doctor. I mean, the big smile and passing the buck to the doctor re: her treatment feels like a mask - but what is that mask covering? Maybe she doesn't *want* to continue pursuing treatment, when she's rather well-adapted to life with her disability, but she feels like she isn't allowed to feel that way? Or maybe I'm just projecting my theory onto the character too much.

In any case. The double transformation scene was awesome! Our girls continue to make me happy with how dang cool they are all the time. And now they can use the cartridge things too! I guess the space cops can make them? It's been a few months since I watched the last episode so I don't remember much about the cartridges besides "they exist" and "they make magic staves stronger."

On the subject of the transformation sequence, maybe this is totally off-base but I'm kind of surprised that this qualifies as PG-13! I mean, some of the shots in the transformation sequence lingered noticeably on the girls' bodies. Considering the uproar I've seen recently about sexualization of minors in anime, it's surprising to see a kid-friendly show from almost 20 years ago show have its female leads posing naked (barbie-doll, and it's a transformation sequence, but still) like that. Were the standards just different back then, and people are just more prudish about this stuff now? Or were people always uncomfortable with it, and I just didn't notice because I was a child and wasn't really in any anime communities until high school?

This is mostly on my mind because I started watching Nanoha in the first place after binging first the anime and then the manga of Gushing Over Magical Girls. Shortly after that, I joined a game of the fan-made chronicles of darkness magical girls splatbook Princess: the Hopeful, which featured a list of suggested shows to watch for those wanting to get more familiar with the magical girl genre. Nanoha jumped out to me as potentially up my alley, and by golly am I enjoying it! But it's kind of funny that it's reminding me of the VERY VERY DIFFERENT series which indirectly started me down the path to watching it.

Anyways. From the postcredits preview, I'm guessing we're going to learn more about the motivations of our antagonists. That's exciting!! I hope my theory is either confirmed or thoroughly jossed - the former so I can celebrate, or the latter so I can start cooking up a new one.

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